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100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread
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Just re posting the 2014 thread. Same deal, get it out of your system and yes I would be supportive of a minimum 15-20 min run but let's see what you guys say this year.


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With the challenge starting on Dec 15, it's time to get all the moaning, bitching and complaining out of our collective systems in the next couple of weeks so we can get to work on some winter running (here in the Northern Hemisphere).


Here is the thread with all the rules from last year so please check that out before you complain (actually this thread is fine to complain in if you disagree with everything or anything there, but better to read it first).

http://forum.slowtwitch.com/gforum.cgi?do=post_view_flat;post=4897743


I'll start. I don't like WTC having downhill swims, cancelling swims, shortening swims. WTC needs to hire Monty as their swim director and then we'll be swimming in 10 foot surf in lightening and they will make every swim 5 miles like it is meant to be. But it seems that WTC does not want swims to be hard because it gets more people in the sport. I have been grappling with the wussification of sport in general. Gone are the days when they made hard men like Monty, Tom Warren or Wolfgang Dietrich. So wussification has gone mainstream and the challenge has been receiving pressure for the past 5 years to wussify and be more inclusive because we want our 100/100 cake complete with icing and want to eat it to. If the challenge board of directors wussified it to 1 mile per day or 1 min per day, that would be even more inclusive.


Before I execute a "rule change", let me say my grievance is the wussification of sport. The challenge was never really designed to be inclusive....we made it to see who would be smart enough to extract max fitness, while in the process we could use it to break some of our competition and send them to the injury zone (OK, pink font for this part about injuring people....we don't want to do that).


The problem is that even though we don't want people to get injured, we can't help people doing stupid things to themselves and getting injured on day 30 because they tripled their mileage in a span of 30 days....it works for 3 weeks and then magically on week 4 people break themselves.


In keeping in line with the wussification of sport, WTC put in the swim smart program so we don't get beaten up in 3000 person mass starts. Now we can hang off rafts and at the threat of a tiny wave, WTC will shorten or cancel the swim. If they can get the local dam authority to release more current into a downstream swim, they will.


My complaint is the entire industry has gone that way, so I table this rule change to the veterans to start the flood of grievances.


All rules stay the same as last year except for this one. Since we can't stop people from breaking themselves and they will go out and do a run when they should not, I propose that the minimum run to count on a given day would be 15 minutes provided that TOMORROW you do at least a 45 minutes continguous run in one shot. Don't enter 15 minutes in the spreadsheet today though. You get to enter 30 min for today and 30 minutes for tomorrow, tomorrow after you have completed the "catch up 45 minutes".


Other than that, all the rules stand the same. I am complaining about the sport being wussified, but now you guys can complain that I am suggesting that we wussify the challenge and in doing so, I am becoming part of the problem.


OK, that's all I have. Start the airing of the grievances. Did someone get a festivus aluminium pole during Black Friday that they can put in the corner, or since it is ST is the pole carbon fiber?
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Part of the problem? how about the whole problem? /pink

6 paragraphs to try and sneak in a rule change to wussify the 100/100 challenge? Its like I don't even know you.
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Does 8 hours of skiing count as 30 minutes of running?
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Sheesh, why not just let everyone walk for the run challenge. Why not just wuss it to the max.

On a serious note, my goal last year was 75 runs and early on I did some 15min runs morning and evening to make my 30 mins. And took days off when my body needed them. So fast forward to the end of the challenge and I hit the mark with 95 runs for my first 100 day challenge. IMO there is no need for the rule change. Grievance submitted.

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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If it ain't broken don't fix it. We're grown ups, if we over due it and run too much we only have ourselves to blame. Plus there is no way police what gets entered into the workout logs other than assumed honesty, best to leave it that way.

As for my grievance, there are not enough larger organisational events out west, ie REV3/Challange (yes i know they're one and the same now). Here in the mountains we've got terrific local races, but I'd like to see more national/international organizers move in besides WTC and HITS.

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [Staz] [ In reply to ]
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Staz wrote:
Does 8 hours of skiing count as 30 minutes of running?

No

Skiing is skiing; running is running

No substitutions

You may want to consider the Big Kahuna Challenge for that kinda thing

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Man, Geno 55's bootleg thread has more views.
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [randymar] [ In reply to ]
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randymar wrote:
Staz wrote:
Does 8 hours of skiing count as 30 minutes of running?


No

Skiing is skiing; running is running

No substitutions

You may want to consider the Big Kahuna Challenge for that kinda thing

Well, I will choose to lie to myself.
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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So many grievances... Where to start?

1. Winter is too long
2. Long Island has too much traffic, too many stoplights/stop signs
3. I'm fat and running is hard with the extra weight
4. Winter is way too long
5. I need new running shoes
6. I ordered a treadmill over a month ago, still hasn't been delivered
7. The Pats only play once per week
8. There isn't enough hockey on TV
9. Knicks suck
10. Winter.

Is it March 24th yet? But seriously, can't wait to get started. Really hoping to come into my best running this spring and be much better off the bike in 2015.

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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:30 rule should stand.. But there should be a distance equivelant, 4 miles? Mo Farrah deserves his 10K to count!

Grievances

1) I am still hungover from all the drinking this weekend
2) I am still suffering food coma withdrawl.
3) Running hurts my biking
4) Biking hurts my running
5) Running and biking hurts my swimming
6) Working takes too much time
7) I have no idea what the hell I am saying....

BTW, I am in.. Shooting for 90 runs.

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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considering the challenge but I'm not sure my runs really qualify. I run twice a day 3.5 miles to and from work. Takes me about ~21 minutes each way so I get about ~42 min per day each weekday coupled with longer 10 mile runs on the weekend. From a volume perspective I get a ton of mileage in but from a continuous running time perspective not so much. Can I combine the two 3.5 mile runs/times for a single run?
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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The challenge is sweet as is......... If anything I would make ALL the runs outside. That would put some hair on your knuckles....

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I'm pissed that the ST Poll question on the 100/ 100 doesn't list the options as follows:
-Yes. Jeebus that's a shipload of running
-No. Jeebus that's a shipload of running

The third option is inclusive of the first two, not exclusive, and therefore redundant.






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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [BrotherTri] [ In reply to ]
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BrotherTri wrote:
The challenge is sweet as is......... If anything I would make ALL the runs outside. That would put some hair on your knuckles....

That's my challenge. Dreadmill is not for me.

But hey, if a billionaire like T. Boone Pickens can work out every day and say you'll be better off for it, than I'm in.
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Please don't change the rules!

But can you consider to have ranking by gender, age groups (3 yrs increments is fine) and weight (5lbs increments).

It would also be nice to have "goody bags" for all participants and awards 10 deep in each category. Thanks.
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Let's see...

  1. Still not recovered from the whole "Oops I Broke My Spine" thing. Starting to run again, so you're damn right I'm signing my busted ass up for this. (Yes, I asked my spine ortho. No, I haven't told my wife. Better to ask for forgiveness on that front.)
  2. Not riding. No bikes yet, and the priority is paying off my hospital debt first. (News Flash: CTs, MRIs, a lot of X-rays, and a custom brace for your spine is not cheap.) Still have about $6K left on the hospital bills and ambulance ride.
  3. Not having the courtesy to turn the siren on for you during said ambulance ride.
  4. I need a new pair or two of running shoes, and I currently am not working in the industry so no freebies. See #2 as to where this falls on the priority list.
  5. At the very least, I can swim like a fish right now.

Also, I hereby vote to deny dev's motion to wussify the challenge. Errr...isn't that what makes it a challenge?

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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First time of doing this that I have grievances to air! Mix of timeline + grievances:

1) Built up to 50 miles/week last year during 100-100 (BarryP style), no injuries, felt great, had my best 70.3 run by far at Oceanside at the end of the month (not my fastest, but close while being FAR easier - ran with some slower friends for a bit which kept me from 70.3 run PR)
2) Got a new job mid-March, moved to elevation, got ridiculously busy, and all but stopped working out
3) Got fat and out of shape (end of challenge to now: +35 lbs)
4) Decided to get back IN shape ~6 weeks ago (had to prepare for 100-100 again!)
5) Went to doctor, got diagnosed with an issue (non-training-related, non-preventable) requiring surgery and 6+ weeks off of training
6) Have now worn a fat-me-shaped divot in living room chair

On the plus side, my exercise exile expires December 12th, just in time to start my slow-and-steady plodding on the treadmill, working back up to get (hopefully) most of what I lost back. I would be ecstatic to get back to that 35-50 mpw range.

Edit to add: last year I lost out on "credit" on some runs by starting at 20 mpw @ 6 runs/week, so some were in the 0:20 range. It was frustrating, but I also knew that when I got back from my 18-22 minutes of running I was still pretty darn fresh, so I got the 0:30 rule. If I'd done a really hard 20-25 mins and totally beat myself to hell, I'd have likely lied on the #s to get a run credit due to the expenditure. 15 mins would have gotten me credit on all runs, 20 would have too, but in the end, if I throw on the gear, go out for 15 mins, come back, have to change again, etc. I still did a "run", I think.
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [davetheharris] [ In reply to ]
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davetheharris wrote:
considering the challenge but I'm not sure my runs really qualify. I run twice a day 3.5 miles to and from work. Takes me about ~21 minutes each way so I get about ~42 min per day each weekday coupled with longer 10 mile runs on the weekend. From a volume perspective I get a ton of mileage in but from a continuous running time perspective not so much. Can I combine the two 3.5 mile runs/times for a single run?

Historically, yes this has been allowed. You may combine any two runs is one day to count as one. You cannot combine 2 runs into one AND run a third time for a double run day. If you combine one you combine them all.
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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In. I can't seem to sign up yet though. This challenge sucks. It's 50 degrees in the mornings now and I don't have enough pairs of tights. My gloves are full of snot and crusty but I always forget to put them in the washer.
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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No wussification please.

Isn't there already the ability to do 2x15min in the same day ? No need to do 15 and 45 the next.

What's next ? Must do 210min per week to count as 7 runs ?
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [marcag] [ In reply to ]
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marcag wrote:
No wussification please.

Isn't there already the ability to do 2x15min in the same day ? No need to do 15 and 45 the next.

What's next ? Must do 210min per week to count as 7 runs ?

Yes, 2x15 minutes counts....in the extreme of the wussification, you could skip 97.75 days and then start a run 100x30 minutes (maybe with a beer after every 30 min to make it some extreme version of the beer mile). The problem is that the runs would not be separated by the required 1 hour, so you'd actually have to start 100 hours earlier (so around 4.25 days earlier) to come in under the wire. Actually as I type, I realize you could stay inside the rules, start as late as 6 1/4 days before the end and get it all done. Well some people have been known to do something like that with university level calculus but not sure it would work with running!
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I just finished Runvember 30/30 using the same Rules as 100/100 Run Challenge and I cannot imagine continuing to run every day. I don't know if it's just the massive amounts of turkey and gravy from the weekend or excessive wine and beer, but the last thing I want to do today is run.

That being said, I did PR my 5k by 30s on Thanksgiving morning (17:36)...so, it works, but I'm all for a day off here and there.

I won't be actively participating this year as I no longer log workouts on ST. But, I may try to aim for the 70-85 mark again this year. We'll see.
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [Aust1227] [ In reply to ]
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Aust1227 wrote:
:30 rule should stand.. But there should be a distance equivelant, 4 miles? Mo Farrah deserves his 10K to count!

Not to wussify - but I'll 2nd this. I'm in either way, though.
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [JASpencer] [ In reply to ]
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JASpencer wrote:
Aust1227 wrote:
:30 rule should stand.. But there should be a distance equivelant, 4 miles? Mo Farrah deserves his 10K to count!


Not to wussify - but I'll 2nd this. I'm in either way, though.

We need to ask Mo Farah is he agrees with this level of wussification and wants to skip his victory laps around the London Olympic track. If Mo can't answer can any of you guys check in with Galen Rupp? I think they are looking a bit soft and could use an extra three or four laps!!!


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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [MSUtri] [ In reply to ]
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I won't be actively participating this year as I no longer log workouts on ST. But, I may try to aim for the 70-85 mark again this year. We'll see.

Would that be IN-Actively Participating, then?

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [randymar] [ In reply to ]
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I was thinking about this on the dreadmill at lunch today, and had a thought.

What is the purpose of the challenge? Basically, for those that are not runners to be able to build a solid base. Obviously, those that are uber runners or already have base are not going to be worried about the 30 minute rule, what we want to do is safely challenge and build those that are at the lower end of the scale.

Here is what I was thinking (Although I don't know if the log supports this without a bit of jiggering):

1. Week 1 - All runs must be 20 minutes. For an 8:00/mile pace, that is 2.5 miles, or 15 miles/week.
2. Weeks 2 - 5: All runs bump up by 2 minutes. So in week 2, that would add 12 minutes, or 1.5 miles, etc etc. So by week 5, our person has increased to the accepted :30 per run, and is now running 22.5 miles per week. (Possibly more, as speed may naturally increase with fitness).
3. Optional - Weeks 6-10, repeat so that now minimum runs are :40.

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Devlin wrote:
I was thinking about this on the dreadmill at lunch today, and had a thought.

What is the purpose of the challenge? Basically, for the MOP and worse or those that are not runners to be able to build a solid base. Obviously, those that are uber runners or already have base are not going to be worried about the 30 minute rule, what we want to do is safely challenge and build those that are at the lower end of the scale.

Here is what I was thinking (Although I don't know if the log supports this without a bit of jiggering):

1. Week 1 - All runs must be 20 minutes. For an 8:00/mile pace, that is 2.5 miles, or 15 miles/week.
2. Weeks 2 - 5: All runs bump up by 2 minutes. So in week 2, that would add 12 minutes, or 1.5 miles, etc etc. So by week 5, our person has increased to the accepted :30 per week, and is now running 22.5 miles per week. (Possibly more, as speed may naturally increase with fitness).
3. Optional - Weeks 6-10, repeat so that now minimum runs are :40.

John

Yeah, but now when Galen Rupp and Mo Farah get their 10K run done, they have to go out and do another 5000m run to get over the 40 min minimum :-). All kidding aside, there is nothing forcing anyone from doing what you said, it's just that they may not get credit for it. There is no means to change the threshold on a week by week basis. My biggest grievance is people not taking days off when they should. No one is forcing anyone to run 100 times. 50-60 runs may be plenty anyway.
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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As someone who injured himself running for the first time this autumn, I still vote "no" on the challenge's wussification. I was aiming for 500 miles in 100 days, including time off after a marathon, and I got shin splints for the first time in my life when I started running again. I will not get to 500. I deserve to not get there because I got injured. I don't deserve to count my walking as running just to get there.

I am rehabbing and almost done. I aim to arrive at the starting line of 100/100 ready to go, and angry after missing 500/100.

Don't make this easy on me, Dev. Make me run smart so I can get all 100.

Grievances:

Winter's dark mornings
One hour later mid-week opening times by ski resorts
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [MattAune] [ In reply to ]
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MattAune wrote:
davetheharris wrote:
considering the challenge but I'm not sure my runs really qualify. I run twice a day 3.5 miles to and from work. Takes me about ~21 minutes each way so I get about ~42 min per day each weekday coupled with longer 10 mile runs on the weekend. From a volume perspective I get a ton of mileage in but from a continuous running time perspective not so much. Can I combine the two 3.5 mile runs/times for a single run?


Historically, yes this has been allowed. You may combine any two runs is one day to count as one. You cannot combine 2 runs into one AND run a third time for a double run day. If you combine one you combine them all.

got it thank you for the clear explanation, makes perfect sense.
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fe_dad wrote:
I don't deserve to count my walking as running just to get there.

Why not? As an ultrarunning friend of mine says: "Hundred Milers are all Gallowalking festivals"

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [Aust1227] [ In reply to ]
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Aust1227 wrote:
:30 rule should stand.. But there should be a distance equivelant, 4 miles? Mo Farrah deserves his 10K to count!

Grievances

1) I am still hungover from all the drinking this weekend
2) I am still suffering food coma withdrawl.
3) Running hurts my biking
4) Biking hurts my running
5) Running and biking hurts my swimming
6) Working takes too much time
7) I have no idea what the hell I am saying....

BTW, I am in.. Shooting for 90 runs.

Have to agree on the mileage threshold.
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [B.McMaster] [ In reply to ]
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B.McMaster wrote:
Aust1227 wrote:
:30 rule should stand.. But there should be a distance equivelant, 4 miles? Mo Farrah deserves his 10K to count!

Grievances

1) I am still hungover from all the drinking this weekend
2) I am still suffering food coma withdrawl.
3) Running hurts my biking
4) Biking hurts my running
5) Running and biking hurts my swimming
6) Working takes too much time
7) I have no idea what the hell I am saying....

BTW, I am in.. Shooting for 90 runs.


Have to agree on the mileage threshold.

I think we deferred the grievance to Rupp/Farah. If those guys give up their victory laps in protest that their 10,000m runs don't qualify, who am I to argue with the reigning Olympic Gold and Silver guys. Or if anyone pulls off an equivalent feat of strength (or should I say endurance) and does a sub 30 min 10K and protests the requirement for a victory lap, then we will be forced to change the rules. But with no feat of strength on display from the tri community, it seems like extra laps are needed. Our only chance is the Brownlees or Gomez sign up, and do a fresh 29.xx 10K and refuse to run one further step. They have three olympic medals between them and thus have even higher bargaining power than Farah+Rupp....for the rest of us, we can celebrate festivus with a few laps around the parking lot since we are not in a packed stadium with 60,000 adoring fans commending us on our feats of strength..rather we have our spouses, kids and employers wondering where heck we are and why are we shuffling up and down the driveway, neighbourhood street or company parking lot aimlessly to get to a random number that happens to be exactly 1/48th of a day....oh, the things grown adults will do to enter a stupid number on spreadsheet!

All kidding aside, after my run commute (all of 8 minutes) from the pool back to the office, I was doing a set of 8x50 m accelerations/strides in the parking lot. It can actually be useful miles :-)
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Leave the rule as is. 15+15 works.

No on the distance idea. Or just tell us fat, slow and out of shape people you don't want us up front.

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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this challenge is dumb I could run 30 minutes a day but I would rather have more volume on less days
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [ironclm] [ In reply to ]
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ironclm wrote:
Leave the rule as is. 15+15 works.

No on the distance idea. Or just tell us fat, slow and out of shape people you don't want us up front.

I think the fast guys were saying either 30 min or 4 miles...whichever comes first. They were just grieving about their fast-ness being a penalty. Hey, everyone is allowed to complain on this thread. Next thing you know Bjorn Anderson will come on here and complain why we can't count his Norseman win retroactively given that it is one of the ultimate feats of strength in triathlon, to which we would need to respond, "sorry Bjorn, wrong month, you are welcome to do a winter Norseman and count the run leg provided that both feet leave the ground on each stride...."
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Dev, Dev, Dev.

Don't call it wussification, call it adapting and learning. Call it doing something for the greater good. Call it improvement. Doing something just bc that's how it has always been done has undone many a doer.

I for one am proud of you for proposing this change. (insert golf clap) It brings a tear to my eye, half a tear of happiness mixed with half of tear of thankfulness that you are willing to consider change. Not many people get a whole tear from me.

It mostly makes sense from a training perspective. Although the whole 45 min thing the next day might confuse people

I think if i were to have my druthers and you may agree with my HOA that I may not have things my way, I'd make the rule state that if you run only 1x per day, it must be at least 20 min in duration. Any second run for the day must be at least 15 min in duration.

This allows a smarter build up for many people, with less risk of repercussions for not thinking things through before they start.

but being the planner I am, I might suggest a different modification to the rule, after I dab my eye dry.

I might suggest changing the rule to a minimal of 20 min duration if only running 1x per day and a minimal of 15 for the second run for the first 4 weeks. After the initial 28d period moving that first run minimal threshold to 30 min while keeping the second run threshold at 15min. record total running duration for that day on that day no matter what though.

This should hopefully allow for people to adapt and not die during the challenge.

I implore you to put this rule change up for a vote, to not mimic my HOA which is more scared of change than you are of wussification. Embrace change like a just released prisoner embraces a woman for the first time in 10 years. Adapt, learn, grow and also develop more neural pathways to defeat the ravages of time. Be brave, be bold, proclaim change for the betterment of all instead of sticking to the path that has lead many to destruction. Embrace change Dev, wrap your arms around it like you would your child after their first bike crash when they come to you crying in pain, the pain that many here on ST suffered and that you can make better by accepting my proposal Dev. YOU. You have that power. I'm asking you to do something for the good of the men and the women's of ST instead of being a cruel dicktator (no that is not misspelled ST spelling police even though you think it is) sending many to their ruin.

Tell us Dev how are you going to use that power? For the collective good or to send us to a running hell filled with frustration and injury?

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Is there any way to put a sanity check on what people log, to make the log reject obviously ridiculous entries?

Either way, keep it the same. If you can't do a 30 minute run one day, then you can't do it. The end.
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [eggplantOG] [ In reply to ]
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eggplantOG wrote:
this challenge is dumb I could run 30 minutes a day but I would rather have more volume on less days

Not at all dumb.......You still can run volume. Just make the next run slow and ez until you 30min

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [desert dude] [ In reply to ]
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I myself find the 30min run totally acceptable. If you want to add 4 mile minimal distance that's fine as well. So the advocates of less than 30 minutes I proposed you just run slower. That may alleviate any concern of injury.

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [BrotherTri] [ In reply to ]
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I like to run at least 9-15 miles every time I go out
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Thank you for adding nothing of value to the thread.

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [Chri55] [ In reply to ]
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Thank you for adding nothing of value to the thread.

Hey, it is a thread about nothing....we're only supposed to add value starting on Dec 15th when the running starts!
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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In the spirit of making a post that doesnt actually add any value....

I'm in for this challenge although in terrible shape. A month ago I was consistently running 40km - 50km a week so on track to hammer the 100/100 challenge. Then I got flu, which turned into pneumonia and meant 3 days in hospital and 3 weeks of absolutely no swim/bike/run at all.

I'm starting from scratch here but looking forward to it. Positives from my side....its summer here in the southern hemisphere so my runs will be outside in great weather!!!
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Any extra points for running through colored chalk dust?

Proud member of FISHTWITCH: doing a bit more than fish exercise now.
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Has he added value to any thread? Other than him getting jacked on bananas which makes me lol/facepalm everytime he says it.

I think I'm out this year for the attempt, unless jonnyo says otherwise. Last year ended with shinsplints so bad I figured I had stress fractures and I was coming of an IM build hitting 50mpw.
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [owen.] [ In reply to ]
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lmao they are confusing me i'm fuckin jacked rn bro loollolol toasted off these bananas 24/7 hunnit thou all day bruh u no just a lil bit turnt up off these carbs ya feel me lolllol. but I thought this was silly cause I prefer the volume over frequency approach my post would've made more sense if I quoted but running 12 miles for example takes longer than 30min and 30min/day is very difficult to do everyday so pretty much 9 miles one day then 15 another per week is better/easier for me than 30min per day and is polly just as effective if not more with less stress

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Has he added value to any thread? Other than him getting jacked on bananas which makes me lol/facepalm everytime he says it.

I think I'm out this year for the attempt, unless jonnyo says otherwise. Last year ended with shinsplints so bad I figured I had stress fractures and I was coming of an IM build hitting 50mpw.
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Dude, I think those bananas you are eating have fermented......

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Has he added value to any thread? Other than him getting jacked on bananas which makes me lol/facepalm everytime he says it.

I think I'm out this year for the attempt, unless jonnyo says otherwise. Last year ended with shinsplints so bad I figured I had stress fractures and I was coming of an IM build hitting 50mpw.

My complaint is that you are listening to someone like Jonnyo that will lead you to PB's and podiums rather than doing stupid things driven by a spreadsheet that slowman hosts that we have to visit each day and see ads for Cobb Cycling, Cervelo, Triathlon Business internations, Holy Shiv and other assorted businesses that make slowman rich. My second beef is that all revenue from this challenge associated click throughs should go into providing each challenger with Hokas so can do even more stupid mileage that they really should not be doing.
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Paul, two questions;

1. If this is thread about nothing when will you post the official thread?

2. I read though last year's 100/100 thread and I think manual entries into my training log are ok. What concerns me is will I be ostracized and will my integrity be questioned for manual entries? I am one of the lucky ones that the import via direct device or file doesn't work in my training log. ST should get it fixed it's been nearly a year.

Thanks

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [Timbikerun] [ In reply to ]
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I like to run at least 9-15 miles every time I go out

... Then do that

Yes, because, guess what ... your 9-15 counts as one run

Someone else's 30:15 barely above the minimum counts as ... one run

Maybe you too should consider the Big Kahuna Challenge as well?

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [randymar] [ In reply to ]
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Timbikerun wrote:
eggplantOG wrote:
I like to run at least 9-15 miles every time I go out


... Then do that


Yes, because, guess what ... your 9-15 counts as one run

Someone else's 30:15 barely above the minimum counts as ... one run

Maybe you too should consider the Big Kahuna Challenge as well?

In fairness, you can sort the challenge by number of runs, by total time, by distance. See my next complaint is that everyone can be a winner depending on how you want to personally sort it. I tend to sort it by distance because I tend to lag in total number of runs!!!

Also to answer Brian Stover's question, we can't actually have two different thresholds inside the challenge (for example min 20 min for first run, min 15 min for second run). They all have to be the same.....soooooo....I have a beef that the programmer that designed the training log utility found a new job that pays him better than the zero that ST was paying him (well, I don't know exactly if it was zero, but I guess my beef is that slowman is not paying him more than the other company !!!)
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [desert dude] [ In reply to ]
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I think if i were to have my druthers and you may agree with my HOA that I may not have things my way, I'd make the rule state that if you run only 1x per day, it must be at least 20 min in duration. Any second run for the day must be at least 15 min in duration.

This allows a smarter build up for many people, with less risk of repercussions for not thinking things through before they start.

but being the planner I am, I might suggest a different modification to the rule, after I dab my eye dry.

I might suggest changing the rule to a minimal of 20 min duration if only running 1x per day and a minimal of 15 for the second run for the first 4 weeks. After the initial 28d period moving that first run minimal threshold to 30 min while keeping the second run threshold at 15min. record total running duration for that day on that day no matter what though.

x2 on this. I have tried the 100/100 challenge twice, and injured myself twice (I'm not very bright). I really like the idea of 20 minutes as the min for folks like me who, once started on a challenge, are mentally imbalanced and Type A enough to try and fight through pain in order to keep racking up points.

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [spot] [ In reply to ]
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Spot, why not just run slower?

I did this challenge on my own last season. I did 63 days straight then double runs for a total of 163 runs ib 163 days. I ran uncomfortably slow at times. More so for my ego. Some other tricks I used to vary things was; metronome, changing strides and shoes. Then again that was me and too each is own. btw I'll hit over 1400 mile this year.

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [eggplantOG] [ In reply to ]
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I want to try eating 100 bananas in 100 days.
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Clarifying my reasoning for a mileage standard: BarryP's plan at 30 miles or 50 kilometers a week...short runs will be less than 30 minutes for many.
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [BrotherTri] [ In reply to ]
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Spot, why not just run slower?

A steep jump in volume increases injury risk
a Steep increase in the total % of faster running increases injury risk
Combining increases in both incurs a steeper than steep increase in injury risk

Running slower isn't a panacea for preventing injury when ramping volume.

Rotating shoes: This is a Most Excellent Point that everyone should heed. (Golf clap for Brothertri!)

Everyone should have at least 2-3 pair of different brands that they rotate through or at least different styles within the same brand.

People should not run in 1 pair of shoes until they die then get another pair and repeat the process.

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [desert dude] [ In reply to ]
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Spot, why not just run slower?


A steep jump in volume increases injury risk
a Steep increase in the total % of faster running increases injury risk
Combining increases in both incurs a steeper than steep increase in injury risk

Running slower isn't a panacea for preventing injury when ramping volume.

Rotating shoes: This is a Most Excellent Point that everyone should heed. (Golf clap for Brothertri!)

Everyone should have at least 2-3 pair of different brands that they rotate through or at least different styles within the same brand.

People should not run in 1 pair of shoes until they die then get another pair and repeat the process.

Rotate Your Shoes

Well, to the part in bold, I'll enter a grievance on behalf of my wife/family...."why does Dev need so many pairs of running shoes ????"....Answer, "Some guy on the internet who goes by Desertdude told him to run in 7 different pairs per week"

"Why is Dev listening to some guy in the internet called Desertdude instead of his family?"

....Answer, "No one listens to their family, there are always smart people on the internet whose words we can use to justify anything!!!"

Seriously though, agreed fully on the rotation of shoes scenario. It costs you no more than sequentially using one pair of shoes. Personally my rotation consists of a variety of shoes from several brands, not just the same shoe of different ages/aggregate mileage. Once in a while I will pull a pair of shoes I have not touched in 5 years. Often those shoes just fell out of the rotation because I had some niggle that seemed to be more pronounced in that shoe than others, so I put that shoe on the sidelines and long after the niggle is cleared up, the pair of shoes, did not make it back into the "starting lineup".
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8. There isn't enough hockey on TV

NHL Gamecenter. Worth it.
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So many grievances... Where to start?
9. Knicks suck

That's not a grievance. That's just a happy fact. My grievance is that the NBA exists at all.

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [HH] [ In reply to ]
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HH wrote:
I want to try eating 100 bananas in 100 days.

I'm eating 100 liver sausage sandwiches in a 100 days!
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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7 pair, well beyond rookie status and into semi pro status.

call me when the rotation gets into double figures, or better yet have your wife call me so I can help you get out of hot water for too many shoes ;-)

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [BrotherTri] [ In reply to ]
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So the advocates of less than 30 minutes I proposed you just run slower.

Can't do. After about 12 years of racing track/xc and putting in enough miles to get pretty decent at it, my easy pace is 6:40. Even when I try to run slower, and if I'm only on 15 miles/week, I invariably get back to 6:40. Just the way it is. So I like the idea of a 4 mile threshold. But then again, I like the idea of sacking up and running an extra 0.5 miles to get to 30 min... Keep the rules as they are. Wussification be damned. If someone is too dumb to know this is a personal challenge that may need to be altered for their best interests, they deserve their comeuppance.
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [desert dude] [ In reply to ]
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My peak shoe rotation was 16. Ridiculous...

Currently at 8 or so, with just about all needing to be replaced outside of the racers.

When we last moved, we needed 6 12-pair boxes for my shoes.

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [xc800runner] [ In reply to ]
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Timbikerun wrote:

8. There isn't enough hockey on TV


NHL Gamecenter. Worth it.

You know what the best think about NHL on TV is?







Joe Buck doesn't do NHL

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7 pair, well beyond rookie status and into semi pro status.

call me when the rotation gets into double figures, or better yet have your wife call me so I can help you get out of hot water for too many shoes ;-)

LOL....I think there could be 20 in the rotation, but there are not enough days in the week. There are plenty of shoes sitting on the bench waiting to pinch hit if an niggle comes up and one or more pair get pushed out of the starting line up !!!

Now, ideally I need to get in the same scenario with bikes....there are two tri bikes, a folding bike, a spin bike, a road bike with the cranks that shall not be named, a trainer bike bolted to the Computrainer with clip on aero bars and a mountain bike in the "rotation". There is also an old softride beam bike which is in "project status" (not yet usable)....the crazy part is that I actually don't have a conventional road bike in the rotation as things stand.
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You know what the best think about NHL on TV is?







Joe Buck doesn't do NHL

He's certainly no Doc Emrick. But I prefer Buck to Collinsworth.
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [xc800runner] [ In reply to ]
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So the advocates of less than 30 minutes I proposed you just run slower.


Can't do. After about 12 years of racing track/xc and putting in enough miles to get pretty decent at it, my easy pace is 6:40. Even when I try to run slower, and if I'm only on 15 miles/week, I invariably get back to 6:40. Just the way it is. So I like the idea of a 4 mile threshold. But then again, I like the idea of sacking up and running an extra 0.5 miles to get to 30 min... Keep the rules as they are. Wussification be damned. If someone is too dumb to know this is a personal challenge that may need to be altered for their best interests, they deserve their comeuppance.
I like your point this is a personal challenge. Like I posted earlier I would be ok with a minimal distance of 4 mile. I am not the powers to be over that, if so I would make a minimal pace as well. I think overall that if people feeling like they will get injured they should not run. I think that plays to Paul's rant on stupid stuff.......

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [rrheisler] [ In reply to ]
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You need to move 72 pair of shoes? That's beyond pro status and into I have a really big problem status! Well done!

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [desert dude] [ In reply to ]
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I had about 30 pair of running shoes; 25 pair of my sneaker collection (Air Max 1s, Air Max 90s, Air Stabs, Pegasus 83s, Windrunners, etc.), then 15 pair of other assorted shoes.

Yeah. What happens when you work in the industry and part of your income is free footwear.

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  I think overall that if people feeling like they will get injured they should not run. I think that plays to Paul's rant on stupid stuff.......[/quote]
YGBSM. So, trying to ramp up volume slowly so as to avoid injuries incurred in the past means people just shouldn't run? Huh?

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [spot] [ In reply to ]
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If 10 minutes is that big of a deal in the make or break of possible injury then yes. That is in distance a possible 1 1/2 mile or about to a very slow mile. Those not wanting to do the 30 min run don't. You can do a 15 min in the am and 15 min in the pm (fast then slow). Whatever multiply runs to get your run on.



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The whole point, I thought, of the 100/100 run challenge was to help people who wanted to work on their run achieve some consistency, not make already good runners feel awesome about themselves. Now, for you, perhaps an additional 10 minutes is no big deal. However, you are, it appears, looking at it from a single day perspective. There isn't a whole lot of difference in running 20 minutes vs. 30 minutes for many people, if we're just talking about a single day. However, over the course of a week, it's 70 minutes more running; 210 minutes vs. 140 minutes. That can be quite the increase in run volume for many, and probably turns a fair number of folks off from even trying the challenge.

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [spot] [ In reply to ]
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The whole point, I thought, of the 100/100 run challenge was to help people who wanted to work on their run achieve some consistency, not make already good runners feel awesome about themselves. Now, for you, perhaps an additional 10 minutes is no big deal. However, you are, it appears, looking at it from a single day perspective. There isn't a whole lot of difference in running 20 minutes vs. 30 minutes for many people, if we're just talking about a single day. However, over the course of a week, it's 70 minutes more running; 210 minutes vs. 140 minutes. That can be quite the increase in run volume for many, and probably turns a fair number of folks off from even trying the challenge.

Spot

Spot is spot on....
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There isn't a whole lot of difference in running 20 minutes vs. 30 minutes for many people, if we're just talking about a single day. However, over the course of a week, it's 70 minutes more running; 210 minutes vs. 140 minutes. That can be quite the increase in run volume for many, and probably turns a fair number of folks off from even trying the challenge.

There is nothing wrong with running 15min every so often, it not counting in the total and finishing with 60 or 70 runs.

THe proposed change is not going to help the case you made. You still need to make up the missing 15min the next day.

I think people should accept that achieving 60 runs is an accomplishment and take a day off when needed or only run 15 mins.
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If I look at November, I ran 28 days out of 30. It just worked out that way. However, if I look more closely, there were around 5 days where the run was 15-25 min range. That was the right amount of running on those days. If the challenge was on, I would get credit for 23/30 days and that is fine. If it was during the challenge, the days that were closer to 25 would turn into 30. The days that were closer to 15 would remain 15...so maybe I end up with 25/30. There is a lot of value in 10-15 min runs for sure, and nothing wrong with doing those for the sake of training even though they may not be additive to challenge totals (at least based on feedback, most past participants are saying NO to the 15+45 option proposed in my first post).
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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If I look at November, I ran 28 days out of 30. It just worked out that way. However, if I look more closely, there were around 5 days where the run was 15-25 min range. That was the right amount of running on those days. If the challenge was on, I would get credit for 23/30 days and that is fine. If it was during the challenge, the days that were closer to 25 would turn into 30. The days that were closer to 15 would remain 15...so maybe I end up with 25/30. There is a lot of value in 10-15 min runs for sure, and nothing wrong with doing those for the sake of training even though they may not be additive to challenge totals (at least based on feedback, most past participants are saying NO to the 15+45 option proposed in my first post).

So, this begs the question...what is the purpose of the 30 minute minimum, then? If the overall goal is consistency, then establishing an arbitrary minimum time that may discourage runners from the challenge that need to work on consistent running would seem to be contradictory, no?

And I'm not a fan of the 15+45 option. I just think that the min should be less than 30, for the exact reason you state in bold above.

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devashish_paul wrote:
If I look at November, I ran 28 days out of 30. It just worked out that way. However, if I look more closely, there were around 5 days where the run was 15-25 min range. That was the right amount of running on those days. If the challenge was on, I would get credit for 23/30 days and that is fine. If it was during the challenge, the days that were closer to 25 would turn into 30. The days that were closer to 15 would remain 15...so maybe I end up with 25/30. There is a lot of value in 10-15 min runs for sure, and nothing wrong with doing those for the sake of training even though they may not be additive to challenge totals (at least based on feedback, most past participants are saying NO to the 15+45 option proposed in my first post).


So, this begs the question...what is the purpose of the 30 minute minimum, then? If the overall goal is consistency, then establishing an arbitrary minimum time that may discourage runners from the challenge that need to work on consistent running would seem to be contradictory, no?

And I'm not a fan of the 15+45 option. I just think that the min should be less than 30, for the exact reason you state in bold above.

Spot


One problem Dev has discussed in the past is the system that "tracks" this challenge. I believe it is hardwired to only recognize runs 30 min or more. This is why Dev for example is saying to log a 15+45 as 30+30.

One solution may be to allow some walking in that 30min. Say something like minimum 30min, with a max of 10 minutes walking. People wanting to build up slowly could do 5x4min with 2 minute walking in between, slowly decreasing the walk until they are at 30minutes of running.
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As a participant for the last three years, I vote to keep the challenge the same....
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Staz wrote:
Does 8 hours of skiing count as 30 minutes of running?

No

Skiing is skiing; running is running

No substitutions

You may want to consider the Big Kahuna Challenge for that kinda thing

How about 6000 steps on my step counter? Is that running? I also used the stairs to go to the second floor of my office instead of the elevator. Is that running? Would that count?
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How about 6000 steps on my step counter? Is that running? I also used the stairs to go to the second floor of my office instead of the elevator. Is that running? Would that count?

Maybe if you read the rules linked in the first post of the thread, you could answer your own questions. In short, no.

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One problem Dev has discussed in the past is the system that "tracks" this challenge. I believe it is hardwired to only recognize runs 30 min or more. This is why Dev for example is saying to log a 15+45 as 30+30.

One solution may be to allow some walking in that 30min. Say something like minimum 30min, with a max of 10 minutes walking. People wanting to build up slowly could do 5x4min with 2 minute walking in between, slowly decreasing the walk until they are at 30minutes of running.

Not quite. It can be set up initially to recognized any number of minutes as valid. It just can't be changed after the fact. So my progression suggestion would not work, as once it gets changed, all runs that don't meet that standard "disappear" from the tracker.

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [Devlin] [ In reply to ]
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How do you adjust your biking and swimming during this challenge?
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How do you adjust your biking and swimming during this challenge?


Me personally? Or in general?

In general, it depends on what your goals are if you do the challenge, when your first race is, current state of swim/bike, etc.

As far as me personally, I'm planning on biking 4x week, 1-3 hours with a lot of short intense workouts, as I have a new kid at home. Swimming, I burned out on swimming after 17ish competitive years, so I don't swim. If I plan on doing an early season tri, I'll add in the Ruth Kazez 0-1650 program sometime in early March.

Edit: I also generally only do sprints, I don't have the time to train properly for long events.

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Second year for me in the challenge and my vote would be to keep it the same.
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [desert dude] [ In reply to ]
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Okay shoe rotation gurus. Do I pick shoes with similar heel to toe drop? Does it matter? Am I going to injure my Achilles going from a 12mm drop to a zero drop altra?
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Okay shoe rotation gurus. Do I pick shoes with similar heel to toe drop? Does it matter? Am I going to injure my Achilles going from a 12mm drop to a zero drop altra?

Pretty sure you will injure your achilles, calf of plantar fascia going from 12 mm drop to zero drop unless you rotate in and out to the lower drop....and I would not start with any runs exclusively on zero drop...you might want to do 10 min max per run in zero drop initially before going back to 12 mm for the rest of your run UNLESS you grew up in track spikes and zero drop soccer cleats (which is not that many of us). You definitely need a rotation. Personally I rotate between 4 mm and zero drop. I can't use more than that, any more. It just does not feel right. You might also benefit from wearing zero drop shoes in the rest of your life outside of running (like flip flops, bare foot walking around the house, zero drop casual shoes at work etc).
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Grievances:
1. This thread seems to have dropped the airing of grievances.
2. I saw my last day above freezing until likely well after the end of the 100/100 challenge.
3. My yaktrax have already exploded and the next pair of shoes in my rotation were made by Brunswick.
4. Joe Buck is not commentating on this challenge

It's my first year joining the party, but I would vote for keeping with the 30 minute tradition that has made this running holiday so magical. I would hate to miss out on the opportunity to test my own personal resolve in the fight of good judgment vs. bone-headed competitiveness.

Cheers

The Running Squatch
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Ok so I am a "run one pair of shoes into the ground" guy normally but willing to mix it up to try and minimise getting injured in this challenge.

I've just bought a pair of Brooks Ghost 7, is the idea to buy for example a pair of Asics that are similar and rotate those?

Any ideas on shoes that are similar to the Brooks I have?
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SasquatchRuns wrote:
Grievances:
1. This thread seems to have dropped the airing of grievances.
2. I saw my last day above freezing until likely well after the end of the 100/100 challenge.
3. My yaktrax have already exploded and the next pair of shoes in my rotation were made by Brunswick.
4. Joe Buck is not commentating on this challenge

It's my first year joining the party, but I would vote for keeping with the 30 minute tradition that has made this running holiday so magical. I would hate to miss out on the opportunity to test my own personal resolve in the fight of good judgment vs. bone-headed competitiveness.

Cheers

The Running Squatch
Haha. This bit in bold is me down to a T. Its gonna be an interesting contest.
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SasquatchRuns wrote:
Grievances:
1. This thread seems to have dropped the airing of grievances.
2. I saw my last day above freezing until likely well after the end of the 100/100 challenge.
3. My yaktrax have already exploded and the next pair of shoes in my rotation were made by Brunswick.
4. Joe Buck is not commentating on this challenge

It's my first year joining the party, but I would vote for keeping with the 30 minute tradition that has made this running holiday so magical. I would hate to miss out on the opportunity to test my own personal resolve in the fight of good judgment vs. bone-headed competitiveness.

Cheers

The Running Squatch
Haha. This bit in bold is me down to a T. Its gonna be an interesting contest.

My grievance: My "A" race marathon for the year is that weekend. Why can't this start later after I get past the requisite two week post-race binge on junk food and sloth? And yes I really do have a block of cheese in the fridge to go with my whine... ;-)

I love/hate these challenges. At work we started a holiday season fitness challenge, suddenly my carefully constructed training plan became "how do I maximize my points and stay in the lead?" I can already see myself thinking "forget all the advice about resting and healing after the race, I need my 30 minutes so the day counts!" Ha!
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SasquatchRuns wrote:
Grievances:
1. This thread seems to have dropped the airing of grievances.
2. I saw my last day above freezing until likely well after the end of the 100/100 challenge.
3. My yaktrax have already exploded and the next pair of shoes in my rotation were made by Brunswick.
4. Joe Buck is not commentating on this challenge

It's my first year joining the party, but I would vote for keeping with the 30 minute tradition that has made this running holiday so magical. I would hate to miss out on the opportunity to test my own personal resolve in the fight of good judgment vs. bone-headed competitiveness.

Cheers

The Running Squatch

The first year I did it (winter of 2006-2007) it was part of a stupid "training streak" that started 2 days after Kona 2006 where I worked out at least 30 min every day, then starting Jan 1 it morphed into running every day at least 30 min, then after the 50 day point, I upped it to running minimum of 10K every day. That year I had a few 50K ski ski race and even a 100K XC ski race and I still ran 30 min either before or after (there was no concept of splitting up my quota)....dumb dumb but I actually was not doing it because I was trying to make any particular fitness gains, rather I was relishing the challenge of seeing if I could get to 1000 kilometers in 100 day without taking a day off. My friend Ray Zahab was running across the Sahara Desert running pretty well 1 marathon per day. I figure if he was going to run around 4200K in 100 days, I should aim for 1000K around real life, so there was no judgement involved, just bone headed stubbornness.

My grievance is that my body can no longer cash checks that my stupidity writes. Stupidity works much better at 49 than 41. In any case, from 2 days after Kona 2006 to December 31 2007, I did not miss a single day of exercising at least 30 minutes. On Jan 1 2008, I forced myself to take a day off because the streak had taken on a life of its own. I remember one particular day when I got up at 4 am in Ottawa Canada to run before going to the airport to catch a flight Tokyo.....then travel to Tokyo took me from Monday morning to Tuesday night. I finally got to my hotel in Yokohama and it was Tuesday at 11:15 PM and I had time (after 23 hours of door to door travel) to cram in a run before midnight. Then the next day (Wed), up at 5 am for a "normal" 70 min run before breakfast a ton of caffeine and a day of work that was supported by the entire supply of caffeine that the island of Japan had on hand....then of course the next night I was up at 4 am on account of too much caffeine so took the opportunity to do a long run on the ITU Yokohama run course.....then fortunately Japan had restocked its caffeine supply and I proceeded to clean it out and that's quite the challenge because that nation has to be the most caffeinated nation on the planet....and so the cycle repeated itself.

....and this is why I had to take Jan 1, 2008 OFF even though it was in the middle of the next year's 100/100 challenge that by then we had expanded to 100+ victims. In that year, we added the concept of days off and doubles being allowed. In the first year, I had zero days off. Sometimes the biggest achievement is getting through the entire gig without getting sick....so I have another grievance....why does flu season always strike during the 100/100 season? Why can't they just schedule flu season at another time of year?
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More grievances

1) Running is hard, and tiring..
2) Running 100X is 100 days is 100X hard and tiring
3) I have a couple half marathons and a full scheduled during this timeframe.. Those too will be hard and tiring.

I am tired of writing. Its hard!

Austin Hardy -

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Ok so I am a "run one pair of shoes into the ground" guy normally but willing to mix it up to try and minimise getting injured in this challenge.

I've just bought a pair of Brooks Ghost 7, is the idea to buy for example a pair of Asics that are similar and rotate those?

Any ideas on shoes that are similar to the Brooks I have?

Also don't rotate my shoes, but I do think that is the idea. Get shoes with similar characteristics to your main shoes.
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [Devlin] [ In reply to ]
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I meant in general, thanks for replying!
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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The first year I did it (winter of 2006-2007) it was part of a stupid "training streak" that started 2 days after Kona 2006 where I worked out at least 30 min every day, then starting Jan 1 it morphed into running every day at least 30 min, then after the 50 day point, I upped it to running minimum of 10K every day. That year I had a few 50K ski ski race and even a 100K XC ski race and I still ran 30 min either before or after (there was no concept of splitting up my quota)....dumb dumb but I actually was not doing it because I was trying to make any particular fitness gains, rather I was relishing the challenge of seeing if I could get to 1000 kilometers in 100 day without taking a day off. My friend Ray Zahab was running across the Sahara Desert running pretty well 1 marathon per day. I figure if he was going to run around 4200K in 100 days, I should aim for 1000K around real life, so there was no judgement involved, just bone headed stubbornness.

My grievance is that my body can no longer cash checks that my stupidity writes. Stupidity works much better at 49 than 41. In any case, from 2 days after Kona 2006 to December 31 2007, I did not miss a single day of exercising at least 30 minutes. On Jan 1 2008, I forced myself to take a day off because the streak had taken on a life of its own. I remember one particular day when I got up at 4 am in Ottawa Canada to run before going to the airport to catch a flight Tokyo.....then travel to Tokyo took me from Monday morning to Tuesday night. I finally got to my hotel in Yokohama and it was Tuesday at 11:15 PM and I had time (after 23 hours of door to door travel) to cram in a run before midnight. Then the next day (Wed), up at 5 am for a "normal" 70 min run before breakfast a ton of caffeine and a day of work that was supported by the entire supply of caffeine that the island of Japan had on hand....then of course the next night I was up at 4 am on account of too much caffeine so took the opportunity to do a long run on the ITU Yokohama run course.....then fortunately Japan had restocked its caffeine supply and I proceeded to clean it out and that's quite the challenge because that nation has to be the most caffeinated nation on the planet....and so the cycle repeated itself.

....and this is why I had to take Jan 1, 2008 OFF even though it was in the middle of the next year's 100/100 challenge that by then we had expanded to 100+ victims. In that year, we added the concept of days off and doubles being allowed. In the first year, I had zero days off. Sometimes the biggest achievement is getting through the entire gig without getting sick....so I have another grievance....why does flu season always strike during the 100/100 season? Why can't they just schedule flu season at another time of year?

I am fairly new to this forum, and triathlon…but this post might be the best post I have read on ANY forum that I frequent. You are a BEAST! I too will be accepting the challenge. I just hope that it does not interfere with the Marathon I am running in January.

Good luck to all. When is the challenge actually posted in the challenge link?
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There is a fine line between courage, being a beast and being in the injury stretcher of stupidity :-). My next grievance is my inablity to determine the fine line. But what does not break us apparently CAN make us stronger.

The challenge link will be up Dec 12th or so....will start on Dec 15th.

Dev
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avion2001 wrote:
I am fairly new to this forum, and triathlon…but this post might be the best post I have read on ANY forum that I frequent. You are a BEAST! I too will be accepting the challenge. I just hope that it does not interfere with the Marathon I am running in January.

If it interferes with your marathon, then you are a) not doing it right and b) missing the point.

John



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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [Devlin] [ In reply to ]
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endosch2 wrote:
How about 6000 steps on my step counter? Is that running? I also used the stairs to go to the second floor of my office instead of the elevator. Is that running? Would that count?


Maybe if you read the rules linked in the first post of the thread, you could answer your own questions. In short, no.

What about 2000 steps on day 1, and 10000 steps on day 2 so that I can combine them and have 6000 steps on both days?

-Jot
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [SasquatchRuns] [ In reply to ]
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SasquatchRuns wrote:
Grievances:

4. Joe Buck is not commentating on this challenge

That's an upside, actually

Joe Buck is a hack; he bugs the shit out of me

On the other hand, it could be worse; could be TroutFace

Blessed are the Nobodies, for Theirs is the Kingdom of Fascinating Stories
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My next grievance is my inablity to determine the fine line.

:) My grievance is the same. I'm waffling, but I think it is time for me to retire from the challenge, as much fun as it has been the last few years. I can't resist chasing the top of the chart, and my training balance has been completely out of whack and I went beyond what my body can handle. My body was pretty much worn out by the end of May.

This year, I need to get more balance, stick to my plan, and also incorporate more bricks with short runs that won't meet the minimum time. Gotta resist the temptation to turn those into 30 minute runs or skip swims because a run on the treadmill in the basement is so convenient...

Travis Rassat
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gamebofh wrote:
Devlin wrote:
endosch2 wrote:
How about 6000 steps on my step counter? Is that running? I also used the stairs to go to the second floor of my office instead of the elevator. Is that running? Would that count?


Maybe if you read the rules linked in the first post of the thread, you could answer your own questions. In short, no.


What about 2000 steps on day 1, and 10000 steps on day 2 so that I can combine them and have 6000 steps on both days?

-Jot

Oh...my....god. Look who is back from the dead!

Johjn



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gamebofh wrote:
Devlin wrote:
endosch2 wrote:
How about 6000 steps on my step counter? Is that running? I also used the stairs to go to the second floor of my office instead of the elevator. Is that running? Would that count?


Maybe if you read the rules linked in the first post of the thread, you could answer your own questions. In short, no.


What about 2000 steps on day 1, and 10000 steps on day 2 so that I can combine them and have 6000 steps on both days?

-Jot

https://what-if.xkcd.com/58/

Quote:

The ISS moves so quickly that if you fired a rifle bullet from one end of a football field. ] the International Space Station could cross the length of the field before the bullet traveled 10 yards.

Let's imagine what it would look like if you were speed-walking across the Earth's surface at 8 km/s.

To get a better sense of the pace at which you're traveling, let's use the beat of a song to mark the passage of time. Suppose you started playing the 1988 song by The Proclaimers, I'm Gonna Be (500 Miles). That song is about 131.9 beats per minute, so imagine that with every beat of the song, you move forward more than two miles.

In the time it took to sing the first line of the chorus, you could walk from the Statue of Liberty all the way to the Bronx:



It would take you about two lines of the chorus (16 beats of the song) to cross the English Channel between London and France.

The song's length leads to an odd coincidence. The interval between the start and the end of I'm Gonna Be is 3 minutes and 30 seconds, and the ISS is moving is 7.66 km/s.

This means that if an astronaut on the ISS listens to I'm Gonna Be, in the time between the first beat of the song and the final lines ...



... they will have traveled just about exactly 1,000 miles.



But it STILL doesn't count as Running



Blessed are the Nobodies, for Theirs is the Kingdom of Fascinating Stories
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I was just mostly dead.

-Jot
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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How about we log all miles on strava? Have them create us a challenge to track there? Does that count as a grievance?
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How about we log all miles on strava? Have them create us a challenge to track there? Does that count as a grievance?

That's a no brain'er for me. At least the gps data upload would work. ST upload is broken and no support. Then again a few of us have mentioned it.

James - est. as a Triathlete 1983
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How about we log all miles on strava? Have them create us a challenge to track there? Does that count as a grievance?
That would be awesome. No way I'm doing the challenge on the ST training log. In fact I'll open a ticket to suggest that.
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nchristi wrote:
mvenneta wrote:
How about we log all miles on strava? Have them create us a challenge to track there? Does that count as a grievance?
That would be awesome. No way I'm doing the challenge on the ST training log. In fact I'll open a ticket to suggest that.
I don't know about a Strava challenge. I was thinking of just a private group. That way only the ST people that sign up for the 100/100 are allowed. I highly doubt Strava would do a challenge just for ST.

James - est. as a Triathlete 1983
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I would create a Strava group and administrate the access to it as long as Paul gives me his blessings. What do you say Paul?

James - est. as a Triathlete 1983
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I would create a Strava group and administrate the access to it as long as Paul gives me his blessings. What do you say Paul?

Dude! Seriously? How the hell am I supposed to exaggerate my mileage if it is tracked by GPS?!? This is slowtwitch.. We MUST be able to pufferize our results.

NO GPS

NO STRAVA

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BrotherTri wrote:
nchristi wrote:
mvenneta wrote:
How about we log all miles on strava? Have them create us a challenge to track there? Does that count as a grievance?

That would be awesome. No way I'm doing the challenge on the ST training log. In fact I'll open a ticket to suggest that.
I don't know about a Strava challenge. I was thinking of just a private group. That way only the ST people that sign up for the 100/100 are allowed. I highly doubt Strava would do a challenge just for ST.

I think we are stuck with the ST log. It is imperfect, but what it does is it forces us to come to ST and go through the forum to get to the log. As a result of having to do this, people actually stop in on the forum and share what they are doing. Any group training is largely useless unless people talk to each other about the training they doing. In real life group training, it is the social aspect that makes a group ride more interesting than just going to the basement and getting on the trainer and riding at 95% FTP. The entire idea of a virtual training camp is to virtually bring us together as a community.

So on that note, my biggest grievance is people who participate in the challenge but post NOTHING about what they are doing. No pictures from run, no stories about feats of strength, no challenging their buddies to get off the couch etc etc. That's around 90% of what makes a virtual training camp more interesting than doing it solo. So unfortunately, we're going to force you to come through the forum to get to the ST training log....yeah sure, slowman will get some extra eyeballs on his website and that is fine too.....I'm here to contribute to this community and not stava's or garmin connects or training peaks, even though most of us happen to also use one or more of those. It's not about the tools, its about the community.
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But does posting in a ST log really encourage you to come to the forum? I come here everyday and don't log here. Put something in the header on the Strava group training page that says "hey, remember to come to ST to share stories, pics, etc". It's just so inefficient to log workouts on ST compared to the other sites where Itake off my watch next to the computer, pick up my phone and see the stats from my workout

This is your thing so I'll do it however you decide. Just my
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One last thought on the mileage threshold and the desire not to "dilute" the challenge.

Last year the top 10 people averaged 3.46 miles per 1/2 hour.


Top 30 averaged 3.55

100-109 averaged 3.43.

Seems like a 3.5 mile or 30 minute threshold would make a lot of sense to allow short course people to participate (who average closer to 4.4 (or more) miles per 1/2 hour, but rarely run that far). Stretching from a 20/21 minute run to 24 minutes (15%) is a lot more realistic than 20/21 to 30 (30%).
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Really great point Paul. Thanks for the reminder. Now who's going to tell me to HTF when its -20 out and I got to get my run on.

James - est. as a Triathlete 1983
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I certainly here you. My Garmin, BT and Strava account are all synchronized. Makes it so much easer. I have never been a big blogger but before my BT account was synchronized I visited the site much more often. I did laot more reading and inspiring my friends. So Paul's points are true for me. So out of respect for Paul and ST I will just manually log my 100/100 as I out run you guys though winter. Let the smack talk begin. :)

James - est. as a Triathlete 1983
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BrotherTri wrote:
mvenneta wrote:
How about we log all miles on strava? Have them create us a challenge to track there? Does that count as a grievance?


That's a no brain'er for me. At least the gps data upload would work. ST upload is broken and no support. Then again a few of us have mentioned it.

As I understand it, the original developer for the training log is inaccessible.

John



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My foot still hurts from IMFL. Dang it. Been running 10 minutes every day, so I think it's on the mend. I *think* I stepped in a pothole and rolled my ankle, and my cuboid has been pissed off every since.



Ok, I have aired my grief.
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For me the challenge is coming just at the right time. And I'm grateful for it.

My son (23) was 210LBS in July and made a big effort to work out with me (56). I've hoped to get him involved in Triathlon for years. His dedication was good motivation for me and did him a ton of good. Not to mention spending more time together and sharing something really positive. He lost 45 LBS and is in the best shape of his life. The last few weeks he has wanted to maintain his weight "stop working out" which is ok as far as taking a break. I mentioned the challenge and I think its just the right motivation to get him participating in a healthy activity again. Even, for him, if its a few days a week its' a great motivator.

Either way I'm in.

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [nickwhite] [ In reply to ]
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Sorry to hear. I would have stopped running for a bit. I jacked up my metatarsals in the fall of 2012 took time off to heal. 1st race Black Bear half jacked them back up going down that Damn dam. I keep running the rest of season. While I did well at Mont Tremblant 70.3, IMLP turned into a disaster. So I pulled the plug from running for 3 months to heal. When I started running again I was on Hoka's and 1400 miles later going strong but not fast.

James - est. as a Triathlete 1983
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Yep, 3 weeks NO running at all. I've very very slowly eased back in to it. Foot feels better every day though, so I'm hoping to be on the tail end of this injury.
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Devlin wrote:
BrotherTri wrote:
mvenneta wrote:
How about we log all miles on strava? Have them create us a challenge to track there? Does that count as a grievance?


That's a no brain'er for me. At least the gps data upload would work. ST upload is broken and no support. Then again a few of us have mentioned it.


As I understand it, the original developer for the training log is inaccessible.

John

Hey guys, yes, the original developer is not available. Dan and Rapp have a plan in the works to overhaul the log utility at some point in the future (I don't know when). In the mean time, let's keep it in this community and see what evolves over time.
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BrotherTri wrote:
I certainly here you. My Garmin, BT and Strava account are all synchronized. Makes it so much easer. I have never been a big blogger but before my BT account was synchronized I visited the site much more often. I did laot more reading and inspiring my friends. So Paul's points are true for me. So out of respect for Paul and ST I will just manually log my 100/100 as I out run you guys though winter. Let the smack talk begin. :)


FYI, it's not Paul, it's Dev short for Devashish. Paul is his last name. But that's ok, he calls me Marcel sometimes.
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When will this years Challenge show up on the Challenges tab?

Charity is injurious unless it helps the recipient to become independent of it. John D. Rockefeller Sr.
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marcag wrote:
BrotherTri wrote:
I certainly here you. My Garmin, BT and Strava account are all synchronized. Makes it so much easer. I have never been a big blogger but before my BT account was synchronized I visited the site much more often. I did laot more reading and inspiring my friends. So Paul's points are true for me. So out of respect for Paul and ST I will just manually log my 100/100 as I out run you guys though winter. Let the smack talk begin. :)



FYI, it's not Paul, it's Dev short for Devashish. Paul is his last name. But that's ok, he calls me Marcel sometimes.

Thank's Marc. I only meat Dev one time @ MT 70.3. I feel like such a ST newbie.......

James - est. as a Triathlete 1983
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My greivance is that I had every intention of being part of the challenge this year. Alas - some serious back problems last spring followed by summer (biking season - duh) have set me back to where I was this time last year.

Time to yet again get my $hit together enough to knock some (small) stuff off my bucket list next year.
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you might want to do 10 min max per run in zero drop initially before going back to 12 mm for the rest of your run UNLESS you grew up in track spikes and zero drop soccer cleats (which is not that many of us).

I did grow up in track spikes and still trashed my calf/Achilles going from 10mm to 6mm shoes too quickly. Damn to getting older. And I was only 30 when it started... I finally just scrapped the nike frees for anything over 4 miles and stick to Pegasus or LunarFly's. My legs are thanking me. But it feels awful dropping to flats for a road race without any speed work in them.
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [BrotherTri] [ In reply to ]
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Really great point Paul. Thanks for the reminder. Now who's going to tell me to HTF when its -20 out and I got to get my run on.

What's this -20 you're talking about? I saw 85 on the thermometer today (yes, Dec 5, and in the US). I hate running in Houston.

My grievances:
1) I still can't wear a shirt when running. Seriously. I was used to training in 0 deg weather throughout school in the winters. I want that back. Running in snow is so peaceful.
2) Oil at $70/barrel is cutting down my job opportunities outside of Houston. Was going to be Denver, but that's out now since margins are too tight. I wanna be in CO for the winter, damn it!
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My grievances:
2) Oil at $70/barrel ![/quote

Yeah. Terrible. I can fill my truck without restarting the pump.
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I personally don't see the problem with lowering the minimum to 20 minutes. Those that want the challenge to stay the same (and can handle the 30 minutes/day) can carry on with that standard and rack up some extra credit. This challenge is about frequency. If dropping the minimum by ten minutes get some people out when they otherwise wouldn't (or shouldn't), I don't see how it's a bad thing.

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xc800runner wrote:

My grievances:
2) Oil at $70/barrel ![/quote

Yeah. Terrible. I can fill my truck without restarting the pump.

Give it 6 months and look at your 401k. Will probably be off 10-15% from the current level. That is tied in somewhat with oil prices (lower futures = less manufacturing = less consumption, blah blah). People have a lite extra money now, but that will be short-lived if prices stay at this level or go much lower. Think 2009 but slightly muted scale.

I'd rather spend an extra $10 on a tank and have 10% returns. Oh, and not driving a truck with a 30 gal tank makes a big difference. My mini just cost me $33 for a full tank of premium. And I still get 400 miles/tank.
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B.McMaster wrote:
xc800runner wrote:

My grievances:
2) Oil at $70/barrel ![/quote

Yeah. Terrible. I can fill my truck without restarting the pump.

Give it 6 months and look at your 401k. Will probably be off 10-15% from the current level. That is tied in somewhat with oil prices (lower futures = less manufacturing = less consumption, blah blah). People have a lite extra money now, but that will be short-lived if prices stay at this level or go much lower. Think 2009 but slightly muted scale.

I'd rather spend an extra $10 on a tank and have 10% returns. Oh, and not driving a truck with a 30 gal tank makes a big difference. My mini just cost me $33 for a full tank of premium. And I still get 400 miles/tank.

Fortunately is more than a 30 gallon tank and I don't mind filling it as I enjoy driving it.
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B.McMaster wrote:
xc800runner wrote:


My grievances:
2) Oil at $70/barrel !

Yeah. Terrible. I can fill my truck without restarting the pump.


Give it 6 months and look at your 401k. Will probably be off 10-15% from the current level. That is tied in somewhat with oil prices (lower futures = less manufacturing = less consumption, blah blah). People have a lite extra money now, but that will be short-lived if prices stay at this level or go much lower. Think 2009 but slightly muted scale.

I'd rather spend an extra $10 on a tank and have 10% returns. Oh, and not driving a truck with a 30 gal tank makes a big difference. My mini just cost me $33 for a full tank of premium. And I still get 400 miles/tank.

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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My grievance......this thread convinced me that I needed another pair of running shoes so that I can rotate the two pairs I now own so this thread has already cost me another pair of running shoes.

To be fair I do now own an awesome pair of bright yellow, orange, green, and other colours, Asics Noosa Tri's....... so swings and roundabouts
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [TriNewbieZA] [ In reply to ]
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Actually I found out a long time ago that rotating shoes actually save me money. It basically allows me to get more mileage per shoe. Not really sure how this is, but I think it has something to do with allowing the rubber to rest and/or just my feet resting by before going into different shoe. Yeah you got to buy more but that can be done once a quarter. Then twice a year but really depends on the shoe, conditions and mileage. Good luck

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Thx Dev for hosting the upcoming annual Carnie Freak festival (CarnieCon?). Look forward to getting jiggy with my OCD and addictive behavior. Was able to grab 50 runs last year and am targeting 67 runs this year. Not setting the world on fire......certainly enjoy the buffoonery out here on ST. Good luck folks, train smart!
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I personally don't see the problem with lowering the minimum to 20 minutes. Those that want the challenge to stay the same (and can handle the 30 minutes/day) can carry on with that standard and rack up some extra credit. This challenge is about frequency. If dropping the minimum by ten minutes get some people out when they otherwise wouldn't (or shouldn't), I don't see how it's a bad thing.

Michelle


If it's 20, I'll excitedly participate. But I'm a new runner and won't be up to 30 in time.
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You can still participate, its just that the 20 min runs won't count in the challenge, but that really does not matter as long as you are getting fitter. Just use the challenge for motivation when you want to run longer than 20 min.
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Have the grievances been aired and shall the 100/100 Challenge kick off on time? I've prepared a meatloaf to appropriately kick off the Feats of Strength. I think it shall give me the strength of 10 men and I shall be running a double on day 1.

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [SasquatchRuns] [ In reply to ]
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That's a great question. I haven't seen the challenge posted yet. Hopefully tonight.

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [davetheharris] [ In reply to ]
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This is bragging and does not count as a grievance.

Here's an option.

Do it on one leg each way (that has to slow you down to my speed).
That way you can count it as two runs.
Bonus.
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I think you have missed the point.

Triathletes are, by inclination, supposed to suffer.
They have "pain caves" and sufferfests, bricks, hypoxic nonsense, you name it.
As a reward they talk interminably about "the rules", until their friends offer euthanasia.

While wussification is reasonable, I believe it should entail a certain amount of punishment (not too kinky or someone will write a book).

So, if you do a 15 minute run, the following day you would be required (do not use the word allowed, it's not allowed) to run 30 +15+ penalty.
Running, of any kind, is a penalty for me, but not for all. And the penalty should be equal for all. There's a rule about that somewhere.

You might require a percentage 30+15+5% of previous 3 days (that way the long weekend run may enter the picture...ha! fie on you runners!).
As with any rule change, there has to be rules about this.
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [phog] [ In reply to ]
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is doing two 15 minute runs acceptable? I don't remember.
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [JSully] [ In reply to ]
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Yes.....

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [SasquatchRuns] [ In reply to ]
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SasquatchRuns wrote:
Have the grievances been aired and shall the 100/100 Challenge kick off on time? I've prepared a meatloaf to appropriately kick off the Feats of Strength. I think it shall give me the strength of 10 men and I shall be running a double on day 1.

The Running Squatch

Unfortunately I did not taper to start this stupid thing...I ran 130K in the last 8 days. I really should take a day off tomorrow, but I am too stupid to let the spreadsheet go on day 1.
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wooohooo, I topped the challenge chart....the advantages of being in Oz....now for a rapid decline through the ranks as everyones day catches up :-)
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I'm waiting for the clock to strike midnight. I am going to kick this off with style. Is there going to be an official thread for this or shall we continue on the Grievances thread?

The Running Squatch
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wooohooo, I topped the challenge chart....the advantages of being in Oz....now for a rapid decline through the ranks as everyones day catches up :-)

LOL...now you guys have people chasing you at 12:01 AM...on the flip side this is like choosing to bat first or last in a 100 day test match. The team that bats last (Midway island on the other side of the international date line for you) has the final say!
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don't rain on my parade ;-)

i'm sure that someone on Midway sneaking in a last minute run on day 100 will have no effect on my standing on the table :-)

a cricket analogy from your part of the world, that surprised me.
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shep wrote:
don't rain on my parade ;-)

i'm sure that someone on Midway sneaking in a last minute run on day 100 will have no effect on my standing on the table :-)

a cricket analogy from your part of the world, that surprised me.

Well, I thought that making this into a 100 day test match would be an apt analogy. Hey the ICC World Cup in in Aus+NZ just as the challenge is wrapping up in 2015....don't forget my Indian genetics, we can never get away from that silly sport no matter how many years our families are away from the more British reaches of the British empire...as for Midway Island, that tiny Pacific Atoll essentially brought down the entire Japanese Empire in March of 1944 when the B29's had the empire in their "range". Midway is a powerful place and the winner of this challenge could easily be tapering right now ready for a 100 day burst of action!
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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One last grievance -- the first day of the challenge (today) is the day after my marathon. I did manage to technically get my BQ, but beating my BQ time by only 13 seconds ain't gonna cut it for actually running Boston, which I was hoping to do. Next time.

Oh well, not that I was going for 100 anyway, but still, I'll definitely be starting from the bottom of the list this year.
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [Kula] [ In reply to ]
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So much bragplaining in this thread

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I think there should be a premium for those living above the 48th parallel. I am thinking +15-20% for anything outdoors during the 100-day challenge. Perhaps you can build this into the model for the 2016 challenge.
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I think there should be a premium for those living above the 48th parallel. I am thinking +15-20% for anything outdoors during the 100-day challenge. Perhaps you can build this into the model for the 2016 challenge.

Then all the guys in Paris, Manchester, London, Dublin, Berlin, Copenhagen, Hamburg etc etc get a bonus as they are all at or well above 48 and they don't have any snow on the ground, meanwhile the guys suffering it out in the bitter cold of Kabul, Kashghar, Almaty, Beijing, Lhasa, Pyongyang or even here in Ottawa (45N) get nothing. What about the guys running in the heat and humidity of Singapore or Jakarta at or just below the equator. I think that is much harder than running in cold temps. Just put your treadmill in a sauna and you got your typical run at the equator in South Asia and they have that every day, all year.
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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:( ...... but its so cold here!
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1 (originally posted 2014) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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bumping for 2015. Sorry, a day late. Just been busy and pre occupied with other things in life.
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1 (originally posted 2014) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I really enjoyed the challenge last year, even with having to hit 30 minutes per day. I remember a few days where I was really counting the seconds to hit the 30 minute mark and think that having the option to cut a few minutes off may be beneficial from an injury reduction perspective. For me personally I don't think that I would cut it to 15 minutes though and would have to do at least 20 minutes for the run to be worth putting my shoes on.

The fact that someone can make up the time the next day doesn't "wussify" it too much, unless if someone were to make it a habit and cut every other run short to end up running 15-45-15-45-15-45-etc. I think that a good stipulation for this new rule change may be that they may only do it once per week to truly allow a rest day when needed.
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1 (originally posted 2014) [dbikelink] [ In reply to ]
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I really enjoyed the challenge last year, even with having to hit 30 minutes per day. I remember a few days where I was really counting the seconds to hit the 30 minute mark and think that having the option to cut a few minutes off may be beneficial from an injury reduction perspective. For me personally I don't think that I would cut it to 15 minutes though and would have to do at least 20 minutes for the run to be worth putting my shoes on.

The fact that someone can make up the time the next day doesn't "wussify" it too much, unless if someone were to make it a habit and cut every other run short to end up running 15-45-15-45-15-45-etc. I think that a good stipulation for this new rule change may be that they may only do it once per week to truly allow a rest day when needed.

If people were OK with that and only use it 1x per week that might be a good option. Let's see what people say. In any case, it is highly unlikely I can run any time soon/this winter due to some nerve damage from 2011 accident that seems to have badly flared up in Nov, 6 weeks after my season ended. Right now can't walk and just getting around on crutches so I'll just have fun watching you guys run like maniacs.
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1 (originally posted 2014) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Planning to do this again this year. Did it a couple years ago and hit 100. Really enjoyed the challenge and it definitely pushed me over the Winter. Knowing that at some point during the day I would run 30 minutes was fantastic. I missed a few days (7 or 8 or something), but just made up with doubles. Oh.... and working from home makes this all MUCH easier. ;-)

15 minute runs? It takes me 15 minutes to get out the door most days. (Type 1 Diabetes makes this MUCH more difficult)
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1 (originally posted 2014) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Dev.

I'm sorry to hear of your injury and I hope you mend quickly.

I look forward to the 100 Day Run Challenge every year and it's great to allow folks to tweak it as needed to fit their current situation. Newbies and lower intermediate might benefit the most from the challenge by reducing or altering the commitment to almost anything....even walk/run for 30min. That can set someone up to make a permanent change in their run form.

I'm down to just one question: when do we start?

Ian
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1 (originally posted 2014) [ianpeace] [ In reply to ]
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Can I retroactively apply runs? I've been running (due to exams looming) instead of swim/biking. I'm on a 14 day streak so far. woo.

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1 (originally posted 2014) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Sorry to hear your past injuries are haunting you still Dev. fortunately, for me, I'm in a different boat this year. Finally healthy and ready to hit the 100/100 running so to speak.

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1 (originally posted 2014) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I got injured last year trying this. Can the challenge be doing any walking for 100 straight days?? /pink?
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1 (originally posted 2014) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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This thread sure has been quiet! No more grievances!? Everybody just ready to run?
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1 (originally posted 2014) [TriWithT1] [ In reply to ]
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I've had a running focus since my last tri in September. Today was my 56th straight day, and I've been averaging around 60 mpw for the past two months. I was within one minute of my half marathon PR two weeks ago, and I'm hoping for a 5k PR in two weeks. I'm thinking that 120 straight is my goal, as around that time I'll need to be spending more time swimming and biking to get ready for an April HIM.


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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1 (originally posted 2014) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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What date does it kick off this year?
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1 (originally posted 2014) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in again after skipping last year. Got in 100+ two years ago and it really helped with motivation during the early Boston build (picked up a new PR!). Running LA in Feb this year, but Pfitz plan has me running every day + doubles anyway, so why not play along again? Also running Boston, so this should also help with getting back on track after LA.

Not necessarily a fan of the whole making it up the next day thing, but whatever gets more people out the door everyday is good. If I were to vote, I'd say just keep it at 30 minutes.

Thanks for getting this started again Dev.
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1 (originally posted 2014) [aw3] [ In reply to ]
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Dec 15th- ish...?? I think.
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1 (originally posted 2014) [TriWithT1] [ In reply to ]
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This thread sure has been quiet! No more grievances!? Everybody just ready to run?

Sorry, for not adding more grievances! You guys need to step it up and get it out of your system.

I am leaning towards either a make up day option where we lower the minimum at least 1x per week, or even reduce the min across the board, but I like the first option better as it is "less wussification" of the challenge. It's almost like WTC saying, "fine, you don't have to do the entire 2.4 miles swim, just swim 1 mile today bike 112 and run 26.2 and we'll call you an Ironman....but on honor system, please go out for a 1.4 mile swim on Monday"....that's at less wussification than an outright cancellation of the entire swim :-)

We start on 15 Dec.
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TriWithT1 wrote:
This thread sure has been quiet! No more grievances!? Everybody just ready to run?

Why bother. Nothing ever changes. I'll stick to doing the running that makes the most sense for me.
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1 (originally posted 2014) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I'm going for it this year after missing last year. And the year before. And the year before...

The closest thing I have to a grievance: I'm too lazy to read through 7 pages of last year's BS. We should have a new thread for 2015-16.

And thanks for organizing! -J

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1 (originally posted 2014) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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devashish_paul wrote:

it is "less wussification" of the challenge.

Wussification is wussification

If you can only do 15min, do 15min, don't count it and be happy with 85 runs rather than 100.
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1 (originally posted 2014) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Can we also include the new "Iron Cowboy Rule" and substitute an elliptical session for a run 1/3rd of the way through? And then still brag if we complete the full challenge?
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Can we also include the new "Iron Cowboy Rule" and substitute an elliptical session for a run 1/3rd of the way through? And then still brag if we complete the full challenge?

Best post in 2 years on this thread. I think when WTC allows ellipticals at IM's (just hop on a bunch of IM branded ellipticals 10 feet outside T2, shuffle around on them for as long as your last IM run split and then walk over the finish line for your medal), then this challenge will have to go full wussified. For now, I am standing by to follow Messick's lead on if he will let that substitution fly in Mdot events and then we go from there....is that a fair deal? To be fair Messick allows walking in his events. We don't allow walking around here. 100/100 running rules are the inverse of race walking (both feet must be off the ground simultaneous for a moment in every stride and make forward motion....so no 30 min of jumping jacks don't count either since there is no forward motion)!

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1 (originally posted 2014) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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But seriously... I'm going to give it a go. Trying to recruit a few other suckers, err friends.
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Can I use an elliptical?
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1 (originally posted 2014) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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This challenge is discrimination against those of us who can't run. 😜

Guess I'll have to do the 100 /100 post-knee replacement walking challenge.

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I am going to have a go at it this year again but this time with a newborn of only a few days in the household. This should be a good challenge!

Dev, thanks for organising this every year. This challenge did miracles to my run training last year and I am sure helped immensely to complete my first I'M marathon on minimal run training volume.
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#WalkersLivesMatter
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ironclm wrote:
This challenge is discrimination against those of us who can't run. 😜

Guess I'll have to do the 100 /100 post-knee replacement walking challenge.

My grievance related to this is I cannot even walk. On crutches from nerve problems from a 2011 accident that got bad over a long bout of back and forth 4 week of biz travel to Europe and West coast every week. Just hoping to work up to a walk, but once I can walk, I will be able to run. In the mean time, I am swimming, riding the trainer and I can even do the IM Cowboy approved elliptical, none of which count.

Best of luck with your re hab. It sounds painful.
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But seriously... I'm going to give it a go. Trying to recruit a few other suckers, err friends.

I've been working on a few guys I regularly run with, unfortunately they're all training for Boston or the LA marathon so they're gearing up on their own programs right now.

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dbikelink wrote:
I really enjoyed the challenge last year, even with having to hit 30 minutes per day. I remember a few days where I was really counting the seconds to hit the 30 minute mark and think that having the option to cut a few minutes off may be beneficial from an injury reduction perspective. For me personally I don't think that I would cut it to 15 minutes though and would have to do at least 20 minutes for the run to be worth putting my shoes on.

The fact that someone can make up the time the next day doesn't "wussify" it too much, unless if someone were to make it a habit and cut every other run short to end up running 15-45-15-45-15-45-etc. I think that a good stipulation for this new rule change may be that they may only do it once per week to truly allow a rest day when needed.

I've said it before and I'll say it again...the lesser of 30 minutes or 3 miles. A short run of 3 miles makes for a 30 mile week in Phase 1 of Barry P's plan.
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dbikelink wrote:
I really enjoyed the challenge last year, even with having to hit 30 minutes per day. I remember a few days where I was really counting the seconds to hit the 30 minute mark and think that having the option to cut a few minutes off may be beneficial from an injury reduction perspective. For me personally I don't think that I would cut it to 15 minutes though and would have to do at least 20 minutes for the run to be worth putting my shoes on.

The fact that someone can make up the time the next day doesn't "wussify" it too much, unless if someone were to make it a habit and cut every other run short to end up running 15-45-15-45-15-45-etc. I think that a good stipulation for this new rule change may be that they may only do it once per week to truly allow a rest day when needed.


I've said it before and I'll say it again...the lesser of 30 minutes or 3 miles. A short run of 3 miles makes for a 30 mile week in Phase 1 of Barry P's plan.

The great thing about the 100/100 is it promotes frequency
Any "rule" changes that promote other "best practices" should be encouraged.

Maybe walking after 3 miles to make up 30min should be allowed. So maybe it's 30min with at least 15min of running.
Maybe 1hr runs could be counted as 2x30 to allow 1 day off per week and do a long run. After all 1hr is harder than 30min+1hr off+30min.

I am for rules changes that don't make it easier but do lead to more "best practices" like those promoted by a BarryP structure.
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dbikelink wrote:
I really enjoyed the challenge last year, even with having to hit 30 minutes per day. I remember a few days where I was really counting the seconds to hit the 30 minute mark and think that having the option to cut a few minutes off may be beneficial from an injury reduction perspective. For me personally I don't think that I would cut it to 15 minutes though and would have to do at least 20 minutes for the run to be worth putting my shoes on.

The fact that someone can make up the time the next day doesn't "wussify" it too much, unless if someone were to make it a habit and cut every other run short to end up running 15-45-15-45-15-45-etc. I think that a good stipulation for this new rule change may be that they may only do it once per week to truly allow a rest day when needed.


I've said it before and I'll say it again...the lesser of 30 minutes or 3 miles. A short run of 3 miles makes for a 30 mile week in Phase 1 of Barry P's plan.

Just run at 10 min miles and you are golden. No need for a rule change to satisfy faster runners. No one ever lost out by taking a few runs slower unless that run was on race day. Sorry, no change on that one.
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1 (originally posted 2014) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I've put on about 20 lbs since IM CDA, my knees hurt so bad I haven't run in months, my upper back/neck is in constant pain and my right arm/hand/fingers get numb and tingly! Sitting on my ass watching TV only makes me think about the above pains, so I'm going to do this challenge to really give myself something to complain about! See you in 20 lbs...
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Sorry to hear this Dev. I'm getting arthroscopic surgery on 12/22 on the knee that has stopped me from running for 2 years. I'm not sure I'll ever run again but I'm hoping I can at least walk more than 15 minutes without being pain.

I hope you heal up quickly.

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1) I'm fat
2) I'm out of shape
3) My Achilles are sore
4) I'm too stupid to know when to take a day off
I'm in with a goal of 70/100
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1 (originally posted 2014) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I enjoyed the challenge the past two years and was not going to participate this year. I hit 100 last year while logging a decent amount of time on the trainer. But I really need to focus on swimming. I've put that off long enough and while I move toward the fop for run and bike, its tough to catch up starting so far back in t1.
I think I'll just log the runs I do to keep track and hopefully get to 60 or 70 this year. No pressure here.

"You don't have to watch Dynasty to have an attitude"
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Dev, when are we starting? I'm trying to recruit some others.

Ian
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ABrunner wrote:
1) I'm fat
2) I'm out of shape
3) My Achilles are sore
4) I'm too stupid to know when to take a day off
I'm in with a goal of 70/100

Sign me up for 1, 2 and first stanza of 4! Annual BOP'er here that strives to be in the top 50% of the points matrix over on the stat sheet. Told my wife that the 100/100 starts next week and she rolled her eyes.....so I must be doing something right. Always enjoy the challenge and maintain that if we change the rules, then ISIS wins! (Still waiting by mailbox for last year's Participation Ribbon....)
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Currently on day 480 of a running streak so will definitely try and keep it alive by joining for the full 100/100
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Trihumor wrote:
ABrunner wrote:
1) I'm fat
2) I'm out of shape
3) My Achilles are sore
4) I'm too stupid to know when to take a day off
I'm in with a goal of 70/100


Sign me up for 1, 2 and first stanza of 4! Annual BOP'er here that strives to be in the top 50% of the points matrix over on the stat sheet. Told my wife that the 100/100 starts next week and she rolled her eyes.....so I must be doing something right. Always enjoy the challenge and maintain that if we change the rules, then ISIS wins! (Still waiting by mailbox for last year's Participation Ribbon....)

#1
#2
#4

I'm going to go for 100.

@Trihumor: Rookie. I always tell my wife on 12/15 to get the maximum amount of reaction. :)

-Jot
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I took last year off, but back in for this year...really keeps you from getting fat in the winter. I am going for about 80-90 runs.
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1 (originally posted 2014) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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 Dev, really hope you get well soon. This Challenge is an anniversary of sorts for me, sinceit gave me the impetus to come out of lurking and post.
Not going to log anything this year, but I'll do what I can to reach something like 60-70/100, hopefully, and barring any injuries etc.
Keep the torch burning to light the road for us newbies and those who've lost their tri way!
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gamebofh wrote:
Trihumor wrote:
ABrunner wrote:
1) I'm fat
2) I'm out of shape
3) My Achilles are sore
4) I'm too stupid to know when to take a day off
I'm in with a goal of 70/100


Sign me up for 1, 2 and first stanza of 4! Annual BOP'er here that strives to be in the top 50% of the points matrix over on the stat sheet. Told my wife that the 100/100 starts next week and she rolled her eyes.....so I must be doing something right. Always enjoy the challenge and maintain that if we change the rules, then ISIS wins! (Still waiting by mailbox for last year's Participation Ribbon....)


#1
#2
#4

I'm going to go for 100.

@Trihumor: Rookie. I always tell my wife on 12/15 to get the maximum amount of reaction. :)

-Jot

What's this about changing the rules and ISIS winning? That's a serious stand against staying hard and non wussification!!! As for the participation ribbon, well, your goodies are proportional to what you paid, so for free, I got you this off google image search. This is about all the budget for this enterprise can offer.



if you sign up for a Messick event, at least you will get a proper finisher medal and you can buy this:


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....LOL......thx for the ribbon. I shall wear it like the total badge of honor it represents and dodge the stares from the soccer moms on the treadmill next to me. Perhaps it shall be the source of my Dec-Mar mojo to eclipse previous challenge run counts. Heal quickly lest the spirit of Chris G get in your head to HTFU.
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Trihumor wrote:
....LOL......thx for the ribbon. I shall wear it like the total badge of honor it represents and dodge the stares from the soccer moms on the treadmill next to me. Perhaps it shall be the source of my Dec-Mar mojo to eclipse previous challenge run counts. Heal quickly lest the spirit of Chris G get in your head to HTFU.

Mrs Chris G was already beating up on me this weekend to get better (LOL), so she's making sure that he's already in my head!

Now I guess we need some graphics talented folks to make some 100/100 achievement ribbons to hand out. Who wants to step up and take a crack so we can come up with something better than what I can scrounge off a 30 second google search?
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devashish_paul wrote:
Now I guess we need some graphics talented folks to make some 100/100 achievement ribbons to hand out. Who wants to step up and take a crack so we can come up with something better than what I can scrounge off a 30 second google search?

Y'al have seen the custom bibs that I do for my Screaming Tortise events ...



I can do the "medals"

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In fact, one of the precepts of the Screaming Tortise Athletic Club is: "We're somewhere between 'Participant medals for everyone' and 'Don't tell Mom there was alcohol'"

Blessed are the Nobodies, for Theirs is the Kingdom of Fascinating Stories
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RandMart wrote:
In fact, one of the precepts of the Screaming Tortise Athletic Club is: "We're somewhere between 'Participant medals for everyone' and 'Don't tell Mom there was alcohol'"

OK post your artwork on here by tomorrow so that people can air their grievances in time. After that, no complaining!!!

Dev
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Your name is "Randy" and you have created artwork.

You've already won.

-Jot
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i think randmart should make bibs for us to wear while we do the 100/100 (or the 70/100 in my case.
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) originally posted 2014 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Need help finding the link to sign-up for the challenge.
When I go here: http://training.slowtwitch.com/challenges I do not find anything for the 2015-16 100/100. what might I be missing...

Many thanks!
Nick
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phillind wrote:
Need help finding the link to sign-up for the challenge.

When I go here: http://training.slowtwitch.com/challenges I do not find anything for the 2015-16 100/100. what might I be missing...

Many thanks!
Nick


Hi Nick....if this is a grievance, that's fine, because the challenge does not start until Dec 15th, so the link will be up on Dec 15th...and I understand that if you are on the other side of the international date line from where I sit (ex New Zealand, Australia, Japan), it is already Dec 15th, but it's Dec 14th on this side, so just wait a few more hours and the challenge will be up at the end of the day and you all can start logging.

In the mean time, if you are on this side of the date line get your final grievances in. So are we going to allow a 1 or 2x per week short run of either 15 or 20 min provided you make up the difference the next day and run a total of 60 min between the two days? While this is wussification it's more like calling someone an ironman if they covered the full distance in 2 days even though WTC shortened the swim today and went out and covered the missed swim distance tomorrow. If it keeps people from getting injured, or if it gets more people out that is fine by me.

The opposing argument is "yes go out and run 15 minutes today, just don't log it and it does not count for the challenge". We're on the 10th year now of doing this and I think overall the challenge is mature enough that adding this minor wussification would be more constructive not only from participation angle but also from an injury prevention angle.

Now get the grievances out on this one so I can decide one way or the other. I might ask Slowman for some expert advice, since he is really the guy who invented the virtual online challenge long before facebook even existed. But what do you guys say? I need to get the 2015-2016 thread up by end of day and need to lock in the rules.

On my side I have made progress from having to use crutches everywhere to being able to walk around inside the house on flat surfaces. Outside on uneven stuff, my leg totally cramps up quickly after 3-5 steps, mainly problems from 2011 leg/nerve/head injury so I am waiting to see if some things I am working on keep making progress before going on any medication or injections etc to reduce the spasticity in the affected area. So my goal will be to walk on the treadmill daily and perhaps progress to one run by the end of this challenge. If I get to that, I want the organizer to give me a "you are winner" ribbon since everyone is a champion for participating. My grievance is that they should not make brick houses in Switzerland so hard that when you go head first into it, your body shatters rather than the house, but hey, those Swiss engineer things well. At least their medical system was awesome.

Seriously though I would like to make a ruling on this proposed rule change....so here it is:


"All rules from 2014-15 challenge apply. New in 2015-16 is allowance for 2x per week minimum run of 15 minutes which must be followed up by 45 run the next day. A 15 min run earlier in the day, followed by a 45 min run later in the day does not count for 2 runs in that day, it counts as the usual 1 run of 60 minutes. The reason for this is that the minimum on 2 days per week of 15 min run is being instituted to assist people in not over doing mileage on days when perhaps a short jog or transition run off the bike or swim is all they should really be doing in the context of an overall triathlon program"

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) originally posted 2014 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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dev, i'm sending our weekly newsletter out today. if you want to make the 100/100 thread live now i can include this in our newsletter. it's up to you.

Dan Empfield
aka Slowman
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) originally posted 2014 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Great stuff. No greivance. Will sign up this evening...
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....Let the games begin....
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) originally posted 2014 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I do not like the new rule but I'm not going to sit here and moan about it becoming a wussified challenge.

I think people need to learn their limits themselves and make smart choices for themselves.

If I accepted every challenge I found on the internet without thinking of the consequences I would have died long ago.

My girlfriend and I are going to have a bet on who can do the most days. Any thoughts for a good forgeit?

Let the fun (and secretive running behind the girlfriends back) begin....


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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) originally posted 2014 [jac2689] [ In reply to ]
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No grievances. This is my weather forecast for tomorrow:


Let's roll...............

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) originally posted 2014 [mck414] [ In reply to ]
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don't really care one way or another about the rules as it never ceases to amaze me that people get so caught up in them, but then again, i've always been a problem child.... :)

hope you're running at the end, Dev. Last year i was in between IMs (cozumel and cuba) so i didn't participate but today went for my first run since coz and it sure felt good after 2 weeks of nothing. i think i've found the perfect rest period after an IM (only took 6 times to figure that out :)). find out today whether i can plan my season and start entering races (our season is just starting up) or if i will have a different kind of fight on my hands...or maybe tomorrow. at least stitches out today.

maybe you can sue switzerland to put bouncy houses in front of all their brick houses so you will bounce next time? :) good healing!

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) originally posted 2014 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Still voting for all runs being 30 minutes. Not that it's a big deal, but IMO neither is running for an extra 10-15 minutes once you've made the effort to get dressed and get out the door. I don't know what the proposed chance is supposed to accomplish - especially if you just have to make it up the next day. With everyday running, sometimes it takes much longer than 10-15 minutes to loosen up and start feeling good. If injury is a concern, just slow down. 30 minutes is only like 3-4 miles for most.
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and upon receipt of Dan's email, I am prompted to make my first forum appearance in months to join the challenge. (see, at least one person reads it. [Also I want to note that I haven't participated in any other websites in the intervening time either.])

Dev, I like your new green rule, but I don't care if it is implemented or not. Initially aiming for 100%, and will be happy with 70%.
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) originally posted 2014 [mstange22] [ In reply to ]
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mstange22 wrote:
Still voting for all runs being 30 minutes. Not that it's a big deal, but IMO neither is running for an extra 10-15 minutes once you've made the effort to get dressed and get out the door. I don't know what the proposed chance is supposed to accomplish - especially if you just have to make it up the next day. With everyday running, sometimes it takes much longer than 10-15 minutes to loosen up and start feeling good. If injury is a concern, just slow down. 30 minutes is only like 3-4 miles for most.

I agree on the 30 minute minimum. Sure, people can run 10k faster, but they likely also did warmup and cooldowns right? So that can be added to their sub 30 10k in order for it to count as a run. Theoretical problem solved. Next.
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devashish_paul wrote:
RandMart wrote:
In fact, one of the precepts of the Screaming Tortise Athletic Club is: "We're somewhere between 'Participant medals for everyone' and 'Don't tell Mom there was alcohol'"


OK post your artwork on here by tomorrow so that people can air their grievances in time. After that, no complaining!!!

Dev



Blessed are the Nobodies, for Theirs is the Kingdom of Fascinating Stories
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) originally posted 2014 [snaaijert] [ In reply to ]
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Anyone running sub-30 10K is isn't slumming around her eon ST, they're slumming around over at Letsrun.

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) originally posted 2014 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I've done the challenge twice and been over 100 runs both times. I have been mostly away from ST this year but I'm coming back to log slow runs each day in this year's challenge. I'm fine with the old rules and like the simplicity of 30 mins a day. The new rule you posted in green seems overly complicated but I'm not going to complain if you need to use it in order to get more people in the challenge.
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) originally posted 2014 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I assume something like 20today, 40 tomorrow is equally allowed

Maybe it needs to be clear that the "make up time", the 40 in this example needs to be the next day ? Can I do 20 today, 30 tomorrow, 40 the day after ?


Does the app allow us to enter 15min runs ?
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marcag wrote:

I assume something like 20today, 40 tomorrow is equally allowed

Maybe it needs to be clear that the "make up time", the 40 in this example needs to be the next day ? Can I do 20 today, 30 tomorrow, 40 the day after ?

Yes the make up time should be "tomorrow" as in "by midnight in your time zone tomorrow".

This is what I am envisioning

  • Athlete: "Coach I was to do this stupid ST 100 day running challenge where I pretty well run every day for at least 30 minutes for the next 100 days"
  • Coach: "Why are you paying me for my plan when I don't have you doing that stupidity"
  • Athlete: "Well, you know it kind of sounds like it could be fun and there are like 700 people from all over the world in it and there is even a virtual participant medal that I could print out and glue to wood and hang in my office with my medals from Messick"
  • Coach: "And how does this fit into the plan that I have been working you toward for PB's next year?"
  • Athlete: "Well, figure if I can do some extra I can get the bragging rights and the participant medal and hit the PB's next year too!!!"
  • Coach: "Do you want to be injured and DNS at IM Texas next spring...that's not how it works ???"
  • Athlete: "Oh no, I want to PB. As you know I am already swimming faster than Andy Potts and I think we got the FTP higher than Lionel Sanders, so I want to up my run game to keep up with Frodo"
  • Coach: "OK OK, I get it it, my magic training is working, but we don't want to derail it going on the Hellriegel overtraining program"
  • Athlete: "Hey , I just read in the green print on ST there is a new rule. I can do two days of 15 minute runs per week, which you already have in the program after the Tue and Thu Kickr rides. And you already have me running 45-120 minutes for 3-5 other days, so it looks like I can stick to your program and get the coveted ST participant medal and run as fast as Frodo by next spring!!!"
  • Coach: "OK, fine, deal, just stick to my plan and go do the stupid challenge thing and then make those jokers on ST hurt on the final 10 miles of the run at IM Texas....no deviating from the plan"
  • Athlete: "OK, deal. I'll want you to sign my virtual finisher medal too before I wear it to AWA athlete check in at IM Texas"
  • Coach: "By the way your biggest problem is not the miles, just get off the Jan Ullrich eating plan in between Dec 20th and Jan 1. You want to KQ at IM Texas then start weighing your food after all this training because while you are stuffing your face, the guys getting on the podium are getting down to 5% body fat. I highly recommend the Desertdude/Jonnyo eating plan to compliment my training plan and this stupid ST challenge"

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) originally posted 2014 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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ok. May have been asked but....

I walk for 2.5minutes then start running.
I run for 20minutes
I walk for 1.5 minutes.
I perform 5-10 wind sprints with light jog/run between which takes about 5-7minutes

total workout time is 32 minutes.

Does this count as 30min run??
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Sweet. I'm already in second!
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i like that new 15min run rules..... it does make lots of sence

i havent run in 3 months...i have no swim in 4 months....but i did x country 3 times in the past 3 weeks! I think i m reading to take on this challenge. might help lose those 50lbs and get back to race weight!!!

Jonathan Caron

Jonnyo Coaching
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) originally posted 2014 [Triagain2] [ In reply to ]
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I vote yes, even though I'm not participating.
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) originally posted 2014 [Triagain2] [ In reply to ]
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Triagain2 wrote:
ok. May have been asked but....

I walk for 2.5minutes then start running.
I run for 20minutes
I walk for 1.5 minutes.
I perform 5-10 wind sprints with light jog/run between which takes about 5-7minutes

total workout time is 32 minutes.

Does this count as 30min run??

Do you run for 30 min? No? Then you already answered your own question...
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jonnyo wrote:
i like that new 15min run rules..... it does make lots of sence

i havent run in 3 months...i have no swim in 4 months....but i did x country 3 times in the past 3 weeks! I think i m reading to take on this challenge. might help lose those 50lbs and get back to race weight!!!

You don't have 50 lbs to lose. But, just strap the new one on in a back carrier and go to town!

John



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jonnyo wrote:
i like that new 15min run rules..... it does make lots of sence

i havent run in 3 months...i have no swim in 4 months....but i did x country 3 times in the past 3 weeks! I think i m reading to take on this challenge. might help lose those 50lbs and get back to race weight!!!

Jonnyo, will you be following the Jonnyo diet?

All kidding aside, if you can participate in the main thread and keep some of the athletes "in line" and help out with the virtual training camp environment I would be really grateful. And I think with the new "rule change" we also allow this to fall into the real of more sensible programs. Hopefully Desertdude is in now too :-)
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Triagain2 wrote:
ok. May have been asked but....

I walk for 2.5minutes then start running.
I run for 20minutes
I walk for 1.5 minutes.
I perform 5-10 wind sprints with light jog/run between which takes about 5-7minutes

total workout time is 32 minutes.

Does this count as 30min run??


I would say yes, absolutely. I mean, come on, you wouldn't log this as separate workouts anywhere else.
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TriWithT1 wrote:
Triagain2 wrote:
ok. May have been asked but....

I walk for 2.5minutes then start running.
I run for 20minutes
I walk for 1.5 minutes.
I perform 5-10 wind sprints with light jog/run between which takes about 5-7minutes

total workout time is 32 minutes.

Does this count as 30min run??


I would say yes, absolutely. I mean, come on, you wouldn't log this as separate workouts anywhere else.

2.5 + 20 + 5 = 27.5 so this does not count as a run technically
2.5 + 20 + 7 = 29.5 so this still does not count as a run.

To be safe jog 2.5 minutes and you're golden. If you have enough energy to sprint, then adding 2.5 minutes won't put you in injury territory. And feel free to use the new wussification 2 days of 15 minutes min with "make up time" the following day to put you on track. While the wussification rule was not intended to give the wind sprint boy a few extra minutes of "make up opportunity" now that I opened that can of worms, well, people are going to use it for all kinds of loopholes so whatever!
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Oh boy, better modify my running program. I am doing Barry program and my time unit is 20min. I think I will wait for next year!m
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gogogo! wrote:
i think randmart should make bibs for us to wear while we do the 100/100 (or the 70/100 in my case.

I made up a blank one for you to start with



You can use Sharpie, or crayon, or paste it into Powerpoint to put your name onto

If you're fortunate to have Photoshop [as I do] you can make like such









[the full-size blank can be found here]


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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) originally posted 2014 [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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thank you!!
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I don't understand why this is a hard challenge? 100 runs of 30min in 100 days?
Cake! Where is the spreadsheet to signup?
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) originally posted 2014 [KingMidas] [ In reply to ]
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http://training.slowtwitch.com/challenge/frequency/235


Here you go. See you in 100 days.

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) originally posted 2014 [Chri55] [ In reply to ]
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Joined.
How do I add my run from today? I don't see where I can click to add; just summaries.

Edit: nevermind. Found it.
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Ok, I fully understand that we've passed the point at which any grievances will be accomodated. However, I would like to properly honour this important festivus tradition, so (all in good fun) here it goes... ;-)

I got a lot of problems with you people:

1) Your forum stinks! There's too much bitching and complaining on this 100/100 forum thread thing. What's supposed to be a challenge becomes a whining contest to see who is more injured. Injuries suck, but save your complaints for your doc/physio/chiro. ;-)

2) Wussification of the sport has taken hold everywhere, especially on this 100/100 challenge where people want to count 15 minute warm up jogs as "runs". The point of a challenge is to see if you are man can possibly complete it, not to make the challenge easier to ensure success. It's sort of like abandoning the run of an Ironman, but demanding a finisher medal because you tried.... Nope, nope, nope.

Anyways, thanks again for hosting the challenge. Looking forward to logging plenty of base mileage over the next 90-something days. Good luck to all on your feats of strength. ;-)
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Spenny P wrote:
Ok, I fully understand that we've passed the point at which any grievances will be accomodated. However, I would like to properly honour this important festivus tradition, so (all in good fun) here it goes... ;-)

I got a lot of problems with you people:

1) Your forum stinks! There's too much bitching and complaining on this 100/100 forum thread thing. What's supposed to be a challenge becomes a whining contest to see who is more injured. Injuries suck, but save your complaints for your doc/physio/chiro. ;-)

2) Wussification of the sport has taken hold everywhere, especially on this 100/100 challenge where people want to count 15 minute warm up jogs as "runs". The point of a challenge is to see if you are man can possibly complete it, not to make the challenge easier to ensure success. It's sort of like abandoning the run of an Ironman, but demanding a finisher medal because you tried.... Nope, nope, nope.

Anyways, thanks again for hosting the challenge. Looking forward to logging plenty of base mileage over the next 90-something days. Good luck to all on your feats of strength. ;-)


I agree with point number 2. But at least we're forcing people to catch up tomorrow with a 45 min run the next day. Messick just cancels the swim, and then let's Reilly call people Ironmen and then has the audacity to give out Kona slots the next day!
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Haha! Dev, I think you should start a festivus "Airing of the Grievances" thread for triathlon in general. I've got a bunch. "Dear triathlon, during the past year you have disappointed me in the following ways:"
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Spenny P wrote:
Haha! Dev, I think you should start a festivus "Airing of the Grievances" thread for triathlon in general. I've got a bunch. "Dear triathlon, during the past year you have disappointed me in the following ways:"

Bumping the thread from the last few years

Hey guys, Slowman reminded me yesterday to get the ball rolling for this year's 100/100 runs...starts on Dec 15th, but it's time for the annual airing of the grievances.

I'll get my first grievance out of the way since it is like 99% sure that I'll barely being doing any running during this time. It's been over a year battling around with a disc/nerve problem and associated spasms in my left leg making walking problematic and running near impossible much faster than 4mph (grievance number 1.....how can I even call 4 mph RUNNING....OK, both feet leave the ground, but barely). So I'll be doing a parallel solo 100/100 of swimming....goal to hit 300,000m in 100 days. I have had some success on the Woodway curve treadmill that's basically a non motorized hamster mill, where I can jog around at 5-6.5 mph every few days, so if the powers to be of this challenge allow running on this contraption (I don't see why not, it is actual running just on a weird surface), then I'll try to log a couple of jogs per week. But while I wait for various medical procedures to resolve (on consult list for a surgery....communist Canuckistani healthcare....don't all of you guys move up here in January, or our health care will get even more flooded)



If you want to use this thread to air grievances about triathlon in general, or WTC, Dalian Wanda that's all fine. Keep the grievances triathlon specific. No grieving about Electoral college, Popular Vote counts, or conflicts of interest on business empires vs public positions. Now if Trump enterprises buys Dalian Wanda to bring back all the Kona slots from China to USA, well OK, that's fair game.
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I'm fighting an annular tear in my L5/S1, haven't run in 4-5 weeks now. Cortisone shot did nothing, hell they might've shot my spine full of malt liquor for all I know.

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"they might've shot my spine full of malt liquor for all I know"

hey. that's not a bad idea.

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devashish_paul wrote:
But while I wait for various medical procedures to resolve (on consult list for a surgery....communist Canuckistani healthcare....don't all of you guys move up here in January, or our health care will get even more flooded)
If you want to use this thread to air grievances about triathlon in general, or WTC, Dalian Wanda that's all fine. Keep the grievances triathlon specific. No grieving about Electoral college, Popular Vote counts, or conflicts of interest on business empires vs public positions. Now if Trump enterprises buys Dalian Wanda to bring back all the Kona slots from China to USA, well OK, that's fair game.[/quote

Good luck and No worries - America will be great again very soon so there are no grievances here.

Once Obamacare goes away - I expect my healthcare will become cheaper. Its gone through the roof since it became "affordable"

How about we drop the "threshold" to 3.1 miles or 30 minutes?
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Slowman wrote:
"they might've shot my spine full of malt liquor for all I know"

hey. that's not a bad idea.

I am going to ask my neurologist if malt liquor will work better than the cortisone they shot in my spine in Sep. Well at least that got me back to the point that i could walk across the parking lot to work, so there's that. I am thinking that they should just go in with the cheese grater and get rid of all the extra calcium buildup compressing the nerves!

Dan to answer your question on email, yes, I'll run the challenge again...my participation will be limited, but I don't need to run to manage the challenge, but there may be times that I'll be busy/sidetracked with other things in life (like my current quest to get to 1.2 million meters of swimming for the year....it's basically 1+ hours per day of swimming every day). Well that leaves 23 hours to do other stuff I guess so I am complaining that i can't use that excuse.

On the minimum run threshold, let's hear what the masses/alumni here have to say. I used to be adamant that it was 30, then we made concessions that you could split it apart in the day to get to 30. I think that is enough and fair, but in the age of wussification of things that are supposed to be hard, well anything is possible.
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How about we drop the "threshold" to 3.1 miles or 30 minutes?

During the Summer, I hosted the 2016 Screaming Tortise [It Only FEELS Endless] Endless Summer 100 Days / 100 Runs Challenge, wherein the minimum was 3 miles or 30 minutes

However, for the Slowtwitch crowd, who can probably drop a 24:00 5K without much trouble, what's another 6 minutes? Granted, we're all pressed for time, but ... it's SIX minutes!!!

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My grievance is the same as always....injury. This time it is a "nerve entrapment" in my R heel. Thought it was my PF flaring up again (or worse, a stress fracture) but my doc says the x-rays look good and PF doesn't usually show up where my pain is. Gave me a shot of cortisone, felt better for a few days but as soon as I ran again, the pain was back.

I did have a successful run yesterday, really focusing on shortening my stride and my forefoot strike, so maybe I just need to keep doing that...we'll see after today's run.

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (last chance, running starts tomorrow) [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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Agree with keeping it to 30 minutes.. the challenge is about consistency not speed - no temptations to race through the 3.1 miles to get done faster.

On to the grievances. I broke my left fifth metatarsal running (how else) on Oct 11th and had 3 screws and a plate put in on Oct 19th. Just got off crutches last Tues thank God (I am in NYC so crutches are a nightmare) and in a boot until next Wednesday the 30th. My doc says I will be "100% by Christmas" but I hope I can jog slowly by Dec 15th; would love to take part in the challenge no matter how slow I go.

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) originally posted 2014 [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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RandMart wrote:
gogogo! wrote:
i think randmart should make bibs for us to wear while we do the 100/100 (or the 70/100 in my case.


I made up a blank one for you to start with



You can use Sharpie, or crayon, or paste it into Powerpoint to put your name onto

If you're fortunate to have Photoshop [as I do] you can make like such









[the full-size blank can be found here]

Sorry folks, but with some recent changes at work, I'm out of the Photoshop business for the time being

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (last chance, running starts tomorrow) [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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RandMart wrote:
B.McMaster wrote:
How about we drop the "threshold" to 3.1 miles or 30 minutes?


During the Summer, I hosted the 2016 Screaming Tortise [It Only FEELS Endless] Endless Summer 100 Days / 100 Runs Challenge, wherein the minimum was 3 miles or 30 minutes

However, for the Slowtwitch crowd, who can probably drop a 24:00 5K without much trouble, what's another 6 minutes? Granted, we're all pressed for time, but ... it's SIX minutes!!!

And that's why it will not change. The majority of the ST crowd likes to race long so 30 minutes a day is nothing and your reference point of a 8 minute mile gives a good marathon time. (so it all definitely works for most people)

I prefer to get my run over in closer to 21 minutes a day so its a 42% increase.

But it was worth a shot.
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any possibility to have ST grab strava data to populate the log automatically? OR should this challenge use strava by setting up a group on there? it does do a weekly listing of highest mileage folks


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no, I do not want to use strava for the challenge. It's an ST challenge, let's keep it here.

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Great idea. The only reason that I don't participate in the 100/100 Challenge is my laziness to populate fields on ST ... while Strava/Garmin does it all automatically
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Since we're bumping grievances, what's the word on the minimum run duration this year? Are we going to keep the new wussification rule (15/45) that was implemented last year? Or are we going back to the 30-minute minimum?

Also, remember that even if you split up your runs on your watch (warmup, main set, cooldown), it still just counts as one run - unless they're spaced out by a certain amount of time (I think it's at least one hour?).
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On the minimum run threshold, let's hear what the masses/alumni here have to say. I used to be adamant that it was 30, then we made concessions that you could split it apart in the day to get to 30. I think that is enough and fair, but in the age of wussification of things that are supposed to be hard, well anything is possible.

My vote is for 30 minimum. No splits, no wussification.
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (last chance, running starts tomorrow) [mstange22] [ In reply to ]
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Since we're bumping grievances, what's the word on the minimum run duration this year? Are we going to keep the new wussification rule (15/45) that was implemented last year? Or are we going back to the 30-minute minimum?

Also, remember that even if you split up your runs on your watch (warmup, main set, cooldown), it still just counts as one run - unless they're spaced out by a certain amount of time (I think it's at least one hour?).

The 2015/16 wussification rule will be sustained. The feedback from multiple participants was that this was very beneficial and allowed them to fit things into a more "normal plan"....at the end of the day taking it to the extreme going 45-15-45-15-45-15-30 is the same overall mileage as 7x30, and you got out the door every day (yes, I must be getting old-er). I did not even participate last year, so I have no personal stake in this and am only going by what some of you have shared with me on how well it worked (or not).

At least we are better than Messick's crew around here. We still ask you to run 100 times in 100 days to get the coveted pat on the back. Those IM guys cut out all kinds of legs from their courses, and Reilly still calls people an Ironman....(and I realize that the bar to one up that is low)

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devashish_paul wrote:
going 45-15-45-15-45-15-30


I believe there is a maximum of 2 session per week that you can do less than 30
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (last chance, running starts tomorrow) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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devashish_paul wrote:
mstange22 wrote:
Since we're bumping grievances, what's the word on the minimum run duration this year? Are we going to keep the new wussification rule (15/45) that was implemented last year? Or are we going back to the 30-minute minimum?

Also, remember that even if you split up your runs on your watch (warmup, main set, cooldown), it still just counts as one run - unless they're spaced out by a certain amount of time (I think it's at least one hour?).


The 2015/16 wussification rule will be sustained. The feedback from multiple participants was that this was very beneficial and allowed them to fit things into a more "normal plan"....at the end of the day taking it to the extreme going 45-15-45-15-45-15-30 is the same overall mileage as 7x30, and you got out the door every day (yes, I must be getting old-er). I did not even participate last year, so I have no personal stake in this and am only going by what some of you have shared with me on how well it worked (or not).

At least we are better than Messick's crew around here. We still ask you to run 100 times in 100 days to get the coveted pat on the back. Those IM guys cut out all kinds of legs from their courses, and Reilly still calls people an Ironman....(and I realize that the bar to one up that is low)

Dev

Yep, if folks understand the intent, it has NOTHING to do with volume!! It has to do with consistency and frequency. If a person runs 15 minutes a day, for 100 days, that is something to cheer about. Longer great, but we see so many get hurt trying to do this thing because they put volume as their main ego focus.

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Can we do some sort of integration with trainingpeaks, strava or garmin connect? It's a pita to manually enter the workouts + will give some credibility to what folks are uploading as their "runs".

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Can we do some sort of integration with trainingpeaks, strava or garmin connect? It's a pita to manually enter the workouts + will give some credibility to what folks are uploading as their "runs"

Yeah, and while we're at it, let's require timing mats, certified courses and drug testing to make sure that uploaded runs are "credible."

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Bullshit....30 minutes minimum or it don't count. Can barley break a sweat in 20 minutes. C'mon Dev, buck up man. I remember when!
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Can we do some sort of integration with trainingpeaks, strava or garmin connect? It's a pita to manually enter the workouts + will give some credibility to what folks are uploading as their "runs".

Yeah, because as someone once said "ALL Runners are Liars"

Keep in mind: this is a Virtual competition, on an online community .. for all you know, we're not even real people ... just 1s and 0s ... possibly created as a simulation for some other entity's entertainment

In fact, their could already be an algorithm in place, that has made up a "player" who will always be 1% better than you

And what exactly would be the POINT of cheating? The 100/100 Challenge is a way to keep Runners motivated and base building through the Winter for the Spring racing season. It's worked pretty well for me the past couple years, even though I've only managed to come in around the 70-75 day result

Cheating would just be fucking stupid; you might ace the Challenge here, but fail IRL ... oh yeah "Had a bad day" always comes into play for people who slacked on training

Remember the Circles of Hell

http://forum.slowtwitch.com/...ost=6092039#p6092039

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First Circle:
People Who Fudge Their Training Logs
Second Circle: Bike Thieves
Third Circle: Bandits, People Who Fake Bibs, and Those Who Take TWO Finishers Medals
Fourth Circle: Dopers, Course Cutters, and Other Assorted Cheats
Fifth Circle: Gamblers, Sportswriters, and People Who Make up Charity Scams
Sixth Circle: Sports Agents
Seventh Circle: Team Owners
Eighth Circle: League Commissioners
Ninth Circle: Al Davis ... Alone for now, but saving spaces for Jerry Jones, OJ, Joe Buck and Roger Goodell

YMMV

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Anton84 wrote:
Can we do some sort of integration with trainingpeaks, strava or garmin connect? It's a pita to manually enter the workouts + will give some credibility to what folks are uploading as their "runs".


Yeah, because as someone once said "ALL Runners are Liars"

Keep in mind: this is a Virtual competition, on an online community .. for all you know, we're not even real people ... just 1s and 0s ... possibly created as a simulation for some other entity's entertainment

In fact, their could already be an algorithm in place, that has made up a "player" who will always be 1% better than you

And what exactly would be the POINT of cheating? The 100/100 Challenge is a way to keep Runners motivated and base building through the Winter for the Spring racing season. It's worked pretty well for me the past couple years, even though I've only managed to come in around the 70-75 day result

Cheating would just be fucking stupid; you might ace the Challenge here, but fail IRL ... oh yeah "Had a bad day" always comes into play for people who slacked on training

Remember the Circles of Hell

http://forum.slowtwitch.com/...ost=6092039#p6092039

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First Circle:
People Who Fudge Their Training Logs
Second Circle: Bike Thieves
Third Circle: Bandits, People Who Fake Bibs, and Those Who Take TWO Finishers Medals
Fourth Circle: Dopers, Course Cutters, and Other Assorted Cheats
Fifth Circle: Gamblers, Sportswriters, and People Who Make up Charity Scams
Sixth Circle: Sports Agents
Seventh Circle: Team Owners
Eighth Circle: League Commissioners
Ninth Circle: Al Davis ... Alone for now, but saving spaces for Jerry Jones, OJ, Joe Buck and Roger Goodell


YMMV

New rule...you can use EPO, HGH and even course cut but you better run at least 30 minutes while doing everything in pink....we'll have random testing of liars using a lie detector test on March 24th. Anyone caught lying on the spreadsheet will be subjugated to a full blown ST twitch hunt that you would not wish on your worst enemy. There is fudging your training log (first circle) and then there is fudging your training log and submitting it to the 100/100 challenge for a full blown twitch hunt....then you might end up joining Al Davis (although I would say he is not solo, I thought there was an agreement to add Kevin Moats to the group). Do you really want that?
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Kula wrote:
devashish_paul wrote:
On the minimum run threshold, let's hear what the masses/alumni here have to say. I used to be adamant that it was 30, then we made concessions that you could split it apart in the day to get to 30. I think that is enough and fair, but in the age of wussification of things that are supposed to be hard, well anything is possible.


My vote is for 30 minimum. No splits, no wussification.

If I may draw a parallel to my kidhood

Ever play whiffleball? Rules varied from neighborhood to neighborhood

Depending on where you played, sometimes you ran bases, sometimes you just kept track in your head [then you get into the "long" vs "high" rules = "over the top line of the telephone wires is a home run"]

Some played "4 fouls is an out"
Some played "1 strike is an out"

in THIS neighborhood: a Run = 30 minutes

If I read Dev's "wussification" 15/45 addendum properly ... you could short the first one, BUT the second one had make up the difference PLUS another 30

yes, you would get credit for TWO 30s, but that second one had to be enough more than 30 to make up the difference

If you wanted to, you could go 28/32 and claim two 30s

***

Honestly, why would you want to run LESS minutes than the time it takes to get ready?

OK, no smart-ass answers from Sprinters [prep all day for a race that's over in less than a minute]

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Oh the joys of a good twitchhunt! My primary concern is that it takes an effort to manually log the runs. I know a few folks who stop posting runs 50-60 days into the challenge (myself included) just because it takes "extra" effort to do so (as opposed to just syncing up your garmin).

Plus there is still this whole "we are almost in 2017 and my toaster can automatically tweet" thing, but I still need to enter my runs manually.

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baliman wrote:
Great idea. The only reason that I don't participate in the 100/100 Challenge is my laziness to populate fields on ST ... while Strava/Garmin does it all automatically



exactly. i am already managing multiple logs (i still use beginnertriathlete). good think im not doing USAT NCC this year.

jime wrote:
Bullshit....30 minutes minimum or it don't count. Can barley break a sweat in 20 minutes. C'mon Dev, buck up man. I remember when!

per NCC rules even walking counted as a run. so a 1.5 mile walk done in 30 minutes would count, but per this 30 min rule a 5min mile wont count? it should be on some effort basis too. perhaps no slower than +2 min-mile your fastest recent PR for distance completed ? say you run 5k in 19:59 (6:25/mile), and you want to log a 5k for the day, no slower than 8:25 / mile...


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Anton84 wrote:
Oh the joys of a good twitchhunt! My primary concern is that it takes an effort to manually log the runs. I know a few folks who stop posting runs 50-60 days into the challenge (myself included) just because it takes "extra" effort to do so (as opposed to just syncing up your garmin).

Plus there is still this whole "we are almost in 2017 and my toaster can automatically tweet" thing, but I still need to enter my runs manually.

I know what you are saying. Now I wish my toaster could just automagically enter bogus runs on the ST log so I could feel good about my current non running, but I can't even program the stupid toaster to lie and then blame it on the toaster. So I am stuck entering zeros!!!!


OK, all kidding aside, Slowman is working on a new log and I THINK there will be a way for your files automatically uploaded to Garminconnect or Strava to get sucked in here. Part of the reason that things are the way they are, is to actually force you guys to come to ST to load up your workouts via the ST website....I realize that it's technically a pain in the ass but the idea it to make you come to this website and engage with the community actively. Not just walk around at home with our Garmin magically connecting to the cloud where you have zero engagement with us.

Let's take a step back. Those of us who did sport in high school and college actually trained with other people and pushed each other and we talked smack about training with one another after workouts in the locker room or between classes or at the campus pub and then out talked one another about how we'd make the other guys hurt at the next workout....or sit their quietly and nod and then let the legs do the talking at the next workout. As you all know, this camaraderie is what makes group training fun. Slowman started off ST virtual camps as a means to get us virtually together.

Just magically uploading files to the cloud does not get that actual virtual camp effect. May as well just be training solo (which is what most of us ACTUALLY do, but a virtual camp makes it feel like we're training with others). The social aspect is important even if it is virtual
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (last chance, running starts tomorrow) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Anton84 wrote:
Oh the joys of a good twitchhunt! My primary concern is that it takes an effort to manually log the runs. I know a few folks who stop posting runs 50-60 days into the challenge (myself included) just because it takes "extra" effort to do so (as opposed to just syncing up your garmin).

Plus there is still this whole "we are almost in 2017 and my toaster can automatically tweet" thing, but I still need to enter my runs manually.


I know what you are saying. Now I wish my toaster could just automagically enter bogus runs on the ST log so I could feel good about my current non running, but I can't even program the stupid toaster to lie and then blame it on the toaster. So I am stuck entering zeros!!!!


OK, all kidding aside, Slowman is working on a new log and I THINK there will be a way for your files automatically uploaded to Garminconnect or Strava to get sucked in here. Part of the reason that things are the way they are, is to actually force you guys to come to ST to load up your workouts via the ST website....I realize that it's technically a pain in the ass but the idea it to make you come to this website and engage with the community actively. Not just walk around at home with our Garmin magically connecting to the cloud where you have zero engagement with us.

Let's take a step back. Those of us who did sport in high school and college actually trained with other people and pushed each other and we talked smack about training with one another after workouts in the locker room or between classes or at the campus pub and then out talked one another about how we'd make the other guys hurt at the next workout....or sit their quietly and nod and then let the legs do the talking at the next workout. As you all know, this camaraderie is what makes group training fun. Slowman started off ST virtual camps as a means to get us virtually together.

Just magically uploading files to the cloud does not get that actual virtual camp effect. May as well just be training solo (which is what most of us ACTUALLY do, but a virtual camp makes it feel like we're training with others). The social aspect is important even if it is virtual


i disagree. knowing it automagically uploads gives you more time to talk smack here :)


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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (last chance, running starts tomorrow) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Agree with the sentiment, however I do think that there will be more participation and as extension of that - smack talk/camaraderie if it were easier to upload the activities. I'm excited to see what changes are in store.

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Anton84 wrote:
Agree with the sentiment, however I do think that there will be more participation and as extension of that - smack talk/camaraderie if it were easier to upload the activities. I'm excited to see what changes are in store.

Based on Trumps toaster automatically tweeting about SNL, I would have to concur that auto toaster enabled log upload and tweets would increase the prominence of 100/100 as the place to be. Can we get Trump's toaster to tweet about his workouts in the challenge? Or maybe as a starter slowman can sign up Gary Johnson and program his toaster?
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (last chance, running starts tomorrow) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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The only grievance I have is that I passed on the challenge last year in favour of a bike focus. Worst year so far for me as I peaked on the bike early and a sprained ankle early in the summer blew my season wrt running.
Back on track now with 3 months of BarryP and eager to make it to 100 again.
Thanks for taking the lead on this again Dev. I hope you'll be back again next year adding mileage of your own.

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Just adding a last minute grievance.....

Weather in Chicago for the start of the challenge is gonna suck monkey balls.....7* tomorrow, heavy snow on Friday and Saturday, -3* on Sunday and back "up" to 7* on Monday.

Yay.

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (last chance, running starts tomorrow) [Power13] [ In reply to ]
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70% chance of rain in Los Angeles tomorrow afternoon to kick off the 100/100 Challenge. I know this is supposed to be a grievance but frankly it's wonderful. I'm doubling up tomorrow for sure with an AM run and then something in the afternoon when it's raining.

Also, yesterday my "workout" was 75min of trimming the canyon trail below my home which will serve as a staple during the Challenge. I think I'm getting a new pair of trail shoes today - I'm FIRED UP!!!

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Power13 wrote:
Just adding a last minute grievance.....

Weather in Chicago for the start of the challenge is gonna suck monkey balls.....7* tomorrow, heavy snow on Friday and Saturday, -3* on Sunday and back "up" to 7* on Monday.

Yay.

Up here in Great White North day 1 of the 100/100 opens with a sultry high of 7 and dips to a low of minus F'ing 27F. !!!!!!
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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (last chance, running starts tomorrow) [shady] [ In reply to ]
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It's going to be 60 here near Denver tomorrow, but drop to 5 by Saturday. Good times, good times.

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (last chance, running starts tomorrow) [mck414] [ In reply to ]
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I can't get any workouts to upload, nor can I change anything about my profile. Anyone else run into these problems?

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (last chance, running starts tomorrow) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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So, when is the official 2016/2017 100/100 run thread going up with the final rules?

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I'll have the 100/100 thread up by first thing ~ 8 am EST on Dec 15th. I understand that for those of you in Japan or Australia it is already Dec 15th. Apologies for that. The last few days have been fairly crazy between professional and family life and a bit of overtraining of course.

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What browser are you using? If your not using Chrome, give it a try. I have had issues with Safari.
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devashish_paul wrote:
I'll have the 100/100 thread up by first thing ~ 8 am EST on Dec 15th. I understand that for those of you in Japan or Australia it is already Dec 15th. Apologies for that. The last few days have been fairly crazy between professional and family life and a bit of overtraining of course.

Dev

Thanks

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Grievance: I have a fake knee and cannot run.

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grievance: only could do 10.34 miles instead of 11 since i had to manually add in entry rather than the site importing from strava/garmin ;p


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synthetic wrote:
grievance: only could do 10.34 miles instead of 11 since i had to manually add in entry rather than the site importing from strava/garmin ;p

Slowman needs to lock up this thread and then open it up again on Nov 15th, 2017. Now we are on the feats of strength phase!!!!!
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Alright.. so is there a new thread for 2017?


devashish_paul wrote:
synthetic wrote:
grievance: only could do 10.34 miles instead of 11 since i had to manually add in entry rather than the site importing from strava/garmin ;p


Slowman needs to lock up this thread and then open it up again on Nov 15th, 2017. Now we are on the feats of strength phase!!!!!
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sp1ke wrote:
Alright.. so is there a new thread for 2017?


devashish_paul wrote:
synthetic wrote:
grievance: only could do 10.34 miles instead of 11 since i had to manually add in entry rather than the site importing from strava/garmin ;p


Slowman needs to lock up this thread and then open it up again on Nov 15th, 2017. Now we are on the feats of strength phase!!!!!

Yeah, sorry sorry....I have been swamped trying get a startup company going and off the ground and I realize that i am 5 days late for the annual 15 Nov start date for the Airing of the Grievances.

My grievance is that you guys want to complain about life more than me and already beat me to the misery loves company month long festivities.

So can I complain that I don't have the the time to generate a new thread and we should just use this thread.

....and the first guy who says, "Dev you suck, you have time, everyone gets 168 hours in a week, so what's your excuse for not getting the thread up in time????" is welcome to cut and paste this grievance.

Now let's roll with last year's thread and get it out of our system.

I don't forsee any rule changes nor wussification unless the grievances are really warranted. Now onto the 12th year of this challenge (or whatever, we started in 2006-2007) hopefully we got any rule change related grievances sorted out.
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I’m cold, the more weight I lose the colder I feel, all the damn time, and it’s not even that cold here yet. Can you make it warmer please so I don’t lay in bed silently bitching about how I don’t want to get up and run.

Other than that, really looking forward to this. Thanks for all the hard work your copy and pasting ;)
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Do a search for "Bioprene" on the forum

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devashish_paul wrote:
sp1ke wrote:
Alright.. so is there a new thread for 2017?


devashish_paul wrote:
synthetic wrote:
grievance: only could do 10.34 miles instead of 11 since i had to manually add in entry rather than the site importing from strava/garmin ;p


Slowman needs to lock up this thread and then open it up again on Nov 15th, 2017. Now we are on the feats of strength phase!!!!!

Yeah, sorry sorry....I have been swamped trying get a startup company going and off the ground and I realize that i am 5 days late for the annual 15 Nov start date for the Airing of the Grievances.

My grievance is that you guys want to complain about life more than me and already beat me to the misery loves company month long festivities.

So can I complain that I don't have the the time to generate a new thread and we should just use this thread.

....and the first guy who says, "Dev you suck, you have time, everyone gets 168 hours in a week, so what's your excuse for not getting the thread up in time????" is welcome to cut and paste this grievance.

Now let's roll with last year's thread and get it out of our system.

I don't forsee any rule changes nor wussification unless the grievances are really warranted. Now onto the 12th year of this challenge (or whatever, we started in 2006-2007) hopefully we got any rule change related grievances sorted out.

Alright then.. this year you post your most recent 5k / half result. Any run less than 10k cannot be more than 90s / mile slower than 5k time. Any run longer than 10k cannot be slower 2min/mile than half time. Non of this qualification combination of days rule. Minimum is 1 mile


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I was wondering when you would finally wake up and post the grievance thread. Another year, another go at 100/100!

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) originally posted 2014 [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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RandMart wrote:
gogogo! wrote:
i think randmart should make bibs for us to wear while we do the 100/100 (or the 70/100 in my case.


I made up a blank one for you to start with



You can use Sharpie, or crayon, or paste it into Powerpoint to put your name onto

If you're fortunate to have Photoshop [as I do] you can make like such









[the full-size blank can be found here]

If I'd know that I'd be losing access to Photoshop, I wouldn't have embedded the date in the pic

I'll see what I can do to remedy that for this year

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) originally posted 2014 [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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I don't have any specific grievance this year, my back has healed up quite nicely. On Dec 15, 2016 I couldn't run 10 minutes without the feeling of being hit with a hammer on my SI joint. This year I'm shooting for 6 days a week throughout. Won't get me 100, but should get me some street cred back!

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) originally posted 2014 [mck414] [ In reply to ]
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Six days out of seven gets 85%, which is a medal of some sort, I believe

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Dev,
My primary grievance is that I can never remember what day we start...is it December 15th?

Inquiring legs want to know.

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ianpeace wrote:
Dev,
My primary grievance is that I can never remember what day we start...is it December 15th?

Inquiring legs want to know.

Ian

Dec 15th are when the feats of strength officially commence. Meanwhile festivus pole is over in that corner over there ------->
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How about a simplification and anti-wussification of the rules? 30 minute run time or it doesn't count period!
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RandMart wrote:
If I'd known that I'd be losing access to Photoshop, I wouldn't have embedded the date in the pic

I'll see what I can do to remedy that for this year

OK, I think we're good



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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) originally posted 2014 [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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Alright, I'm interested in joining this year. How do we log our runs?

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) originally posted 2014 [Sean H] [ In reply to ]
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Sean H wrote:
Alright, I'm interested in joining this year. How do we log our runs?

Hey Sean and everybody, the training log is working pretty well. I'll have the 100/100 challenge created early in December.

Also note that I've been spending time getting integration with Strava working and it's almost ready. That would save a lot of people time and effort getting into the challenge, yeah? :^)

Thanks,

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Re: 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread (Dec 1) originally posted 2014 [EricTheBiking] [ In reply to ]
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Yes, I've messed with the log in the past and could never get it to work. I'll try again. But if you could use strava then yeah it'd be super easy.


Edit: Ok just tried again. Can't figure it out. How do you get your activities to auto sync with the log? I use a garmin and also strava/trainingpeaks.

When I click on strava integration is goes to a page that says "page not found."

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Sean H wrote:
Yes, I've messed with the log in the past and could never get it to work. I'll try again. But if you could use strava then yeah it'd be super easy.

<snip>

When I click on strava integration is goes to a page that says "page not found."

Yes. Almost ready. :^)

At first it'll be as easy as clicking a Sync button.

-Eric
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