That's just the nature of power meters and humans not being machines. That's actually how your power is being applied to the pedals. Overtime, you can become more smooth. In the meantime, you could turn on power smoothing so that you can get more smooth output.

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CEO at TrainerRoad
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If you change cadence or gears during your ride the Kickr will compensate, it just takes a while to "kick" in. We just tell the Kickr "Set ERG to 200 watts" and it handles the rest. If we do detect a sustained difference between your power meter and Kickr, we'll say "Set ERG to 205 watts" or something like that depending on the offset.

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CEO at TrainerRoad
Co-host of the Ask a Cycling Coach Podcast

We don't do that :(. It's a constant battle getting a PM to line up with a trainer. There will often be drift between the PM and the trainer as the workout gets longer.

We just had an employee who did a three hour steady state ride. He was perfectly matched between his Vectors and Kickr at the beginning of the ride. By the last hour there was a 20 watt difference. He even stopped and did another spin down. Power match kept the two inline though.

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CEO at TrainerRoad
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Thanks nate!

Hey Alex,

Formerly running TrainerRoad with KickR via ANT+ and using a Garmin cadence sensor. Worked very well but noticed a lot of spikes in the last few weeks.

Received a set of P1 pedals and now wish to use them to basically to record power separately and for cadence but not control the KickR but when I use TrainerRoad with the KickR in ERG mode pairing via bluethooth my power doesn't seem to display but the target power is displayed.

I may be confusing myself but is there an ideal pairing that works best for TrainerRoad / KickR / Powertap P1s. I'm using a MAC book. Thanks.

Unfortunately the P1 pedals require special Bluetooth coding to be able to read power data from them. We haven't done that yet, although cycleops did just send us a pair of P1 pedals so that we can do this.

For now, I would pair your P1 pedals via ANT+ on your macbook.

You can continue to pair your Kickr via Bluetooth. Hope that helps.

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Thanks Nate. I can only pair the P1 pedals via ANT + as a power meter which then seems to take over the KickR. On my profile I have three choices which playing around with them doesn't make any immediate difference (nor would I suspect them to):

1. Use power meter to control electronic trainer
2. Apply trainer power wattage offset
3. Disable

I have the most up to date app for the MAC book as well. Thanks again.

Quick question/opinion wanted. I have run through the sustained power build a number of times with pretty good results. I am just about to start another 8 week block and was wondering if I should continue using that plan, or, switch to the half distance tri build plan? I have done a handful of half and full distance races over the past few years and will plan on a half this spring/early summer. Thanks.

Try the 4 week Sufferfest Build.

Do you have an ETA for the newly revised triathlon specialty plans? I am moving from build to the half ironman specialty phase. Thanks!

I sent this below message to Nate, but thought I'd post here as some users may have experienced this as well and could help....

Riddle me this:

This morning I paired my Computrainer to TrainerRoad - ERG mode and did White +1. I only synced the CT to let it control the workout. I did not sync my powermeter or heartrate strap. I then opened up Zwift and had Zwift connected to my Power2Max power meter as the Power Source and HR strap. I rode for 15 minutes above 150 watts and calibrated the CT to 2.04. I then unclipped and re-calibrated my Power2Max through my Garmin. What I noticed was my Computrainer had consistently 12-15% lower watts than what my Powermeter/Zwift was reading. So, in Zwift my Garmin and Zwift (both synced to the Power2Max) had my wattage showing at 203 where TrainerRoad connected to the CT was showing me more at 173. I have the Garmin on 3 sec avg and the reading were consistent with Zwift give or take. It wasn't just this one instance, but the whole ride. I'm assuming the powermeter is the more accurate effort, but how would I get these numbers more inline? I understand it can't be perfect, but hoping closer than 12-15%.

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You could use our PowerMatch feature to have your power meter data feed back into your CT.

Here's some more info on that: http://support.trainerroad.com/...-Electronic-Trainers

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CEO at TrainerRoad
Co-host of the Ask a Cycling Coach Podcast

Hi, I'd recommend giving the Half-Distance Tri Base & Build plans a shot (updated Specialty plans are in the works right now) since you have a half on the horizon. I've integrated swim & run workouts, but more importantly, each of the three phases integrate really tightly and account for the accumulated stress of all 3 disciplines.

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Head Coach at TrainerRoad
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Hey there, I'm working on them now so they'll crop up very soon. Sprint is done and the others are nearing completion but definitely still need a fair amount of work. We'll keep everyone informed via our usual social channels though!

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This is my first indoor "off season" and I'm going to be setting up TrainerRoad this weekend. I'm trying to skim through the almost 100 pages of posts in this thread to educate myself, but I wanted to ask for any advice you all may have so I might avoid any common mistakes being new to indoor training in general and TrainerRoad specifically.

I'm using my Specialized Shiv tribike on a Kinetic Roadmachine and I plan to setup on an IPad with the ANT+ Wahoo fitness key for it.

Make sure you start with an FTP test. After that, I'd start one of our plans.

Other than that you should be good! :-D

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Just another shout out for Trainerroad. I can't wait to get back to it here in the next week (or two). All my trainer stuff has been in a moving truck/storage since the end of July - house is just a week or two away from being done and will finally get my stuff back. Really have been missing that screen to keep me honest and moving forward - been primarily on crappy gym spin bikes. In hindsight I should have asked to freeze my account, but really didn't expect house hunting to take this long.

Great product and great people at Trainerroad. Happy training.

Thanks man! That makes my day :).

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Anyone else with a KICKR experiencing issues since the latest version of the Windows beta/new full version?

I'm having issues with the KICKR holding target power but then as the target moves the KICKR just holds the previous target power and doesnt adjust. Haven't had much response from TR yet on ways to solve.

I don't have a KICKR (Tacx Bushido) but had the same issue. Target was supposed to move up 20 watts but stayed at previous interval's power (this was after working great for 45 minutes of the workout).

TR support suggested that I uninstall the Beta and download the production version instead at https://www.trainerroad.com/install. Did a workout this morning and it was back on target.

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Strava

Title says it all. I am in week 5 of high volume Sustained Power Build. Last week was the recovery week, which was welcome as I was carrying residual fatigue (mental and physical). That seems to have resolved nicely and I felt well rested for my 20 minute test on Tuesday. I don't think I was wildly overshooting (I am not new by any means to a 20 minute test protocol and only targeted 3% over my test from week 1 of the build phase). Legs felt out of sorts, aerobic capacity felt underwhelming, and HR spiked way too fast to the point that I bailed (for the first time ever on a 20 minute test) at the 10 minute point. I have notes from my test back on week one indicating similar feelings of staleness after a light week during my 20 minute test. So my questions is how do I make better use of the recovery week to keep my edge but still recover? My gut is telling me lack of higher intensity work over the past 10 days (last higher intensity workout was Thursday of week 3) took away my edge or tolerance for work, but I am only guessing. At the end of the day, I am unhappy about quitting a 20 minute test in the middle, and honestly feel my current fitness is better than it was in week 1's test. I am thinking about shuffling in a new test next week to get a newer number rather than waiting to week 1 of my Specialty phase, but don't want to come out of the next recovery week feeling blah.

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"It never gets easier, you just go faster."
-Greg LeMond

Quick question ( I hope) In the below workout (using Tacx Vortex) everything goes very smoothly except on my two "hardest" hardest intervals where the trainer didn't seem to hold the correct power, it did just fine in the warm up interval at that intensity.


https://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/3036467-Huffaker


Not a big issue because anything shorter and higher intensity then these I plan to use slope mode not erg, just curious if anyone else runs into this and what I screwed up to cause it.

Hey there,

This is a pretty common issue and one that makes me hesitant to schedule most assessments immediately following a rest week. Thing is, that's generally when riders are freshest with the best chance of performing to their potential, at least physiologically.

But I think you nailed it in that your "edge or tolerance for work" faded a bit. This is exactly why tapers work as well as they do - load goes down but intensity (and consequently your mental edge) stays right where it needs to be. It's for this reason that I've recently been using short, hard workouts to get me back into the swing of things after any type of training hiatus (be it a couple days or most of a week) before I attempt my most demanding and potentially productive workouts.

So the alternative is to bump your assessment one or two days later and do something fairly rigorous a couple days (or even the day before) prior. Might seem like this would take some of the wind out of your sails, but if you keep the efforts short, the intensity high (relative to the workouts you've been doing) and the recovery valleys generous, I think you'll be pleasantly surprise on how motivated you are to push yourself during your subsequent assessment.

This has worked really well in my personal training and I attribute it entirely to its effect on my mental state in that it's easier to remember how to hurt. And since assessment is necessarily about hurting, it makes really good sense to me.

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Head Coach at TrainerRoad
Co-host of the Ask a Cycling Coach Podcast

We released an update yesterday to address this.

It could happen if you're in an area with a lot of drop outs. Everything should be good now.

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CEO at TrainerRoad
Co-host of the Ask a Cycling Coach Podcast

That was probably due to a bug in the software. It's been fixed now. Sorry about the issue :(.

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CEO at TrainerRoad
Co-host of the Ask a Cycling Coach Podcast