Hey Everyone,

I spoke with Powertap regarding pairing the P1 Pedals to TrainerRoad. Here's the latest:

- P1 Pedals paired via Bluetooth 4.0 (Bluetooth Smart) need to be paired individually as left and right sensors. This poses a problem in the TrainerRoad application, as we currently can only handle power data from a single sensor at a time. Luckily, we're in contact with Powertap, and we should be receiving some P1 Pedals for internal testing.

- P1 Pedals paired via ANT+ work a little differently. The left and right pedals communicate with each other and send both L and R power in a single data package through the left pedal. In other words, TR is only pairing to one pedal, but power from both pedals is being sent and recorded.

Pairing the P1 Pedals via ANT+ should work just fine with all versions of the TrainerRoad app right now. Of course, we'll confirm this once we get the P1s to test with. :-)

Nate,
Noticing a change in the training plan recommendations and looking for some further information.

Prior to the new roll-out of plans the messaging was consistently, "if you're racing and have more than 6 weeks to train ahead of your event use the Traditional Base plans".

Now with the new plans, and the Base/Build/Specialize structure, and the introduction of a sweet spot base, the messaging seems to be "Sweet Spot Base is what we recommend".

If you're training for 4-5 months before events is sweet spot base the better way to go now, or is trad base still superior?

a co-worker is selling a 16GB iPad 2. That have enough muscle in it to run you iOS app?

Confused and frustrated! Am I doing something wrong or trying to do something that’s not possible?

I’ve had Trainerroad for over a year now and really enjoyed it. I’ve just changed turbo to a Tacx Bushido. I also have a Stages power meter.

The Bushido works fine in Erg mode on its own in Trainerroad, but I’d like to control it with the Stages so I’m using the same power readings when riding inside and outside. I think this should be possible but cannot get it to work and I don’t know if the problem caused the Bushido, Trainerroad or my incorrect settings and hope someone can point me in the right direction.

If I start a session in Erg mode controlled by the Stages I get a couple of minutes in and the turbo slams on the brake and sets the resistance so high it is almost impossible to ride. To overcome this, I’ve tried doing the warmup in resistance or standard (when I tried last night standard mode wasn't available?) mode and then switching to Erg at the start of the first interval. Rather than tracking the power as per the target the resistance then sets to a level 40 to 50 watts higher than required for the first minute or so of the interval before dropping.

I’ve currently got the Trainerroad set to use power meter to control electronic trainer and tried different smoothing time. Is there something else I need to set on Trainerroad.

a co-worker is selling a 16GB iPad 2. That have enough muscle in it to run you iOS app?

as mentioned yup it will, just know that if you have a smart trainer such as KICKR with ERG, all the ipad will show you once you get the correct dongle is power, it wont control the trainer and adjust resistance on the fly. ANT+ does not allow for that communication, only bluetooth does, which that ipad lacks.

I learned this lesson the hard way :(

Confused and frustrated! Am I doing something wrong or trying to do something that’s not possible?

I’ve had Trainerroad for over a year now and really enjoyed it. I’ve just changed turbo to a Tacx Bushido. I also have a Stages power meter.

The Bushido works fine in Erg mode on its own in Trainerroad, but I’d like to control it with the Stages so I’m using the same power readings when riding inside and outside. I think this should be possible but cannot get it to work and I don’t know if the problem caused the Bushido, Trainerroad or my incorrect settings and hope someone can point me in the right direction.

If I start a session in Erg mode controlled by the Stages I get a couple of minutes in and the turbo slams on the brake and sets the resistance so high it is almost impossible to ride. To overcome this, I’ve tried doing the warmup in resistance or standard (when I tried last night standard mode wasn't available?) mode and then switching to Erg at the start of the first interval. Rather than tracking the power as per the target the resistance then sets to a level 40 to 50 watts higher than required for the first minute or so of the interval before dropping.

I’ve currently got the Trainerroad set to use power meter to control electronic trainer and tried different smoothing time. Is there something else I need to set on Trainerroad.

Nate,

There are some things I'd love to see in Trainer road since I've talked about half my athletes into joining it.

When you sort a workout by type ie vo2, threshold that the list populats in either ascending or descending duration. Instead I find a ride for 1:30, then one for 1:00 then one for 1:30 then 1:00 then 1:15 etc. It would be great to have all the 1 hr then 1:15 then 90min then etc listed.

The second thing I'd like to see when you order workouts by duration they appear in duration AND if possible appear in order of type of workout. ie sweet spot then threshold in duration order.

Not sure about others, but these changes would be HUGE for me since I've got so many athletes doing workouts on Trainer Road.

Thanks man

Traditional Base is still the recommended starting point if you have time before your target event to fit it in before Sweet Spot and before your Build and Specialty phases. For many, 28 weeks (Sweet Spot, Build, Specialty) is cutting it close before their A event. However, if you have more time than this, than really taking your time and building a bulletproof foundation by doing Traditional Base first is the best option.

Here's a good article that goes into this subject a little further: Sweet Spot vs. Traditional Base

trevor/chad

I am about to start the tri base but due to my schedule considering moving the saturday workout to sunday (keeping the rest the same)...will I lose a significant part of the plan's intent my moving that workout a day later? I notice that you stacked 3 pretty solid workouts back to back to back Thurs-Sat. Will I lose out big on the physiological benefits of those 3 back to back workouts?

Any tips for moving the long Sunday run to Wednesday? I'm trying to use the weekend to accomodate more biking on the weekends due to travel.

I'm just starting out with TR and did the 8 Minute Test tonight.
I thought it would give me an option to change my FTP from the standard 200, but it didn't. What recorded value or number should I adjust my FTP to?
Could it be since I chose HR for workout type?
It did recommend a new LTHR value.