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Re: IM Canada F40-44: new thread [h2ofun] [ In reply to ]
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Sbradley11 wrote:
h2ofun wrote:
JoelO wrote:
I think WTC put that rule in to prevent serial drafters from using the mirrors to alert them of marshals coming up from behind.


No data to back this statement up. Just a few thinking the glass is half empty. I feel so much safer where in a race. 99% of my USAT races
have no marshalls at them, so not an issue.


So you think that, on a whim, for no reason, WTC just decided to add that rule?

Would not be the first time.

Just like when USAT said 10mm wetsuits could not be used. Just a few board members that had issues, not the membership.

Sometimes you don't need data. Being reasonable and rational is enough. Helmet mirrors make it so it's easy to see if someone is coming behind you in case you're doing something you shouldn't be in a race. And 10mm wetsuits are like row boats/saunas.

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Re: IM Canada F40-44: new thread [h2ofun] [ In reply to ]
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h2ofun wrote:
Sbradley11 wrote:
h2ofun wrote:
JoelO wrote:
I think WTC put that rule in to prevent serial drafters from using the mirrors to alert them of marshals coming up from behind.


No data to back this statement up. Just a few thinking the glass is half empty. I feel so much safer where in a race. 99% of my USAT races
have no marshalls at them, so not an issue.


So you think that, on a whim, for no reason, WTC just decided to add that rule?


Would not be the first time.

Just like when USAT said 10mm wetsuits could not be used. Just a few board members that had issues, not the membership.

You should read the Kevin Moats thread (if it still exists) dealing with his punishment regarding the lack of a TUE. It quickly hit on the fact that he used the mirror to check for marshals.
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Re: IM Canada F40-44: new thread [h2ofun] [ In reply to ]
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h2ofun wrote:
Sbradley11 wrote:
h2ofun wrote:
JoelO wrote:
I think WTC put that rule in to prevent serial drafters from using the mirrors to alert them of marshals coming up from behind.


No data to back this statement up. Just a few thinking the glass is half empty. I feel so much safer where in a race. 99% of my USAT races
have no marshalls at them, so not an issue.


So you think that, on a whim, for no reason, WTC just decided to add that rule?


Would not be the first time.

Just like when USAT said 10mm wetsuits could not be used. Just a few board members that had issues, not the membership.

You have a knack for derailing threads with non-sense and unrelated arguments to show everyone how different you are. It's annoying as hell.
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Re: IM Canada F40-44: new thread [NJSteve] [ In reply to ]
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NJSteve wrote:
h2ofun wrote:
Sbradley11 wrote:
h2ofun wrote:
JoelO wrote:
I think WTC put that rule in to prevent serial drafters from using the mirrors to alert them of marshals coming up from behind.


No data to back this statement up. Just a few thinking the glass is half empty. I feel so much safer where in a race. 99% of my USAT races
have no marshalls at them, so not an issue.


So you think that, on a whim, for no reason, WTC just decided to add that rule?


Would not be the first time.

Just like when USAT said 10mm wetsuits could not be used. Just a few board members that had issues, not the membership.


You should read the Kevin Moats thread (if it still exists) dealing with his punishment regarding the lack of a TUE. It quickly hit on the fact that he used the mirror to check for marshals.

Like everything in life, some cheat. Yep, clearly a mirror can be used to cheat with drafting, but since 99% do not use, this has not stopped drafting has it?

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Re: IM Canada F40-44: new thread [get2T2] [ In reply to ]
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get2T2 wrote:
h2ofun wrote:
Sbradley11 wrote:
h2ofun wrote:
JoelO wrote:
I think WTC put that rule in to prevent serial drafters from using the mirrors to alert them of marshals coming up from behind.


No data to back this statement up. Just a few thinking the glass is half empty. I feel so much safer where in a race. 99% of my USAT races
have no marshalls at them, so not an issue.


So you think that, on a whim, for no reason, WTC just decided to add that rule?


Would not be the first time.

Just like when USAT said 10mm wetsuits could not be used. Just a few board members that had issues, not the membership.


You have a knack for derailing threads with non-sense and unrelated arguments to show everyone how different you are. It's annoying as hell.

What brought up that mirrors are cheating or illegal? I did not.

Dave Campbell | Facebook | @DaveECampbell | h2ofun@h2ofun.net

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Re: IM Canada F40-44: new thread [h2ofun] [ In reply to ]
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h2ofun wrote:
get2T2 wrote:
h2ofun wrote:
Sbradley11 wrote:
h2ofun wrote:
JoelO wrote:
I think WTC put that rule in to prevent serial drafters from using the mirrors to alert them of marshals coming up from behind.


No data to back this statement up. Just a few thinking the glass is half empty. I feel so much safer where in a race. 99% of my USAT races
have no marshalls at them, so not an issue.


So you think that, on a whim, for no reason, WTC just decided to add that rule?


Would not be the first time.

Just like when USAT said 10mm wetsuits could not be used. Just a few board members that had issues, not the membership.


You have a knack for derailing threads with non-sense and unrelated arguments to show everyone how different you are. It's annoying as hell.


What brought up that mirrors are cheating or illegal? I did not.

No, but you just had to put your two cents in, didn't you?
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Re: IM Canada F40-44: new thread [get2T2] [ In reply to ]
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get2T2 wrote:
h2ofun wrote:
Sbradley11 wrote:
h2ofun wrote:
JoelO wrote:
I think WTC put that rule in to prevent serial drafters from using the mirrors to alert them of marshals coming up from behind.


No data to back this statement up. Just a few thinking the glass is half empty. I feel so much safer where in a race. 99% of my USAT races
have no marshalls at them, so not an issue.


So you think that, on a whim, for no reason, WTC just decided to add that rule?


Would not be the first time.

Just like when USAT said 10mm wetsuits could not be used. Just a few board members that had issues, not the membership.

You have a knack for derailing threads with non-sense and unrelated arguments to show everyone how different you are. It's annoying as hell.

+1 sorry I bit on the bait. I should know better.

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Re: IM Canada F40-44: new thread [get2T2] [ In reply to ]
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get2T2 wrote:
h2ofun wrote:
get2T2 wrote:
h2ofun wrote:
Sbradley11 wrote:
h2ofun wrote:
JoelO wrote:
I think WTC put that rule in to prevent serial drafters from using the mirrors to alert them of marshals coming up from behind.


No data to back this statement up. Just a few thinking the glass is half empty. I feel so much safer where in a race. 99% of my USAT races
have no marshalls at them, so not an issue.


So you think that, on a whim, for no reason, WTC just decided to add that rule?


Would not be the first time.

Just like when USAT said 10mm wetsuits could not be used. Just a few board members that had issues, not the membership.


You have a knack for derailing threads with non-sense and unrelated arguments to show everyone how different you are. It's annoying as hell.


Yep, just like you and others. :)
What brought up that mirrors are cheating or illegal? I did not.


No, but you just had to put your two cents in, didn't you?

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Re: IM Canada F40-44: new thread [get2T2] [ In reply to ]
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get2T2 wrote:
You have a knack for derailing threads with non-sense and unrelated arguments to show everyone how different you are. It's annoying as hell.


Post of the week! I love it so much I'm making it my new tag line!
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Re: IM Canada F40-44: new thread [get2T2] [ In reply to ]
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get2T2 wrote:
h2ofun wrote:
Sbradley11 wrote:
h2ofun wrote:
JoelO wrote:
I think WTC put that rule in to prevent serial drafters from using the mirrors to alert them of marshals coming up from behind.


No data to back this statement up. Just a few thinking the glass is half empty. I feel so much safer where in a race. 99% of my USAT races
have no marshalls at them, so not an issue.


So you think that, on a whim, for no reason, WTC just decided to add that rule?


Would not be the first time.

Just like when USAT said 10mm wetsuits could not be used. Just a few board members that had issues, not the membership.


You have a knack for derailing threads with non-sense and unrelated arguments to show everyone how different you are. It's annoying as hell.

Maybe Julie Miller paid him off?
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Re: IM Canada F40-44: new thread [walie] [ In reply to ]
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walie wrote:
get2T2 wrote:
h2ofun wrote:
Sbradley11 wrote:
h2ofun wrote:
JoelO wrote:
I think WTC put that rule in to prevent serial drafters from using the mirrors to alert them of marshals coming up from behind.


No data to back this statement up. Just a few thinking the glass is half empty. I feel so much safer where in a race. 99% of my USAT races
have no marshalls at them, so not an issue.


So you think that, on a whim, for no reason, WTC just decided to add that rule?


Would not be the first time.

Just like when USAT said 10mm wetsuits could not be used. Just a few board members that had issues, not the membership.


You have a knack for derailing threads with non-sense and unrelated arguments to show everyone how different you are. It's annoying as hell.


Maybe Julie Miller paid him off?

You think she started a donation page to fund that?
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Re: IM Canada F40-44: new thread [walie] [ In reply to ]
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oh, no this is just h2o being h2o (eventually its about him and I think he really likes it)
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Re: IM Canada F40-44: new thread [Sbradley11] [ In reply to ]
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Sbradley11 wrote:
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Sometimes you don't need data. Being reasonable and rational is enough. Helmet mirrors make it so it's easy to see if someone is coming behind you in case you're doing something you shouldn't be in a race.

Well his mirror didn't seem to help Dave avoid the draft marshals at the Auburn Tri;)

Hugh

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Re: IM Canada F40-44: new thread [h2ofun] [ In reply to ]
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Learn how to use a computer, buddy. Your reply is buried in another posters message.

And learn how to participate in a thread without turning it into a discussion of h20fun's efforts to be different.
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Re: IM Canada F40-44: new thread [Runguy] [ In reply to ]
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oh, no this is just h2o being h2o (eventually its about him and I think he really likes it)

May he should change his name to "h2-NO-fun?"

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Re: IM Canada F40-44: new thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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Someone who needs to raise money from the public to fund her trip to an age group triathlon race, that she allegedly cheats at, now has money to retain a lawyer to threaten and/or sue the website hosting a forum discussing her proven and/or alleged cheating.

The world needs more paragons of humanity like this. Sheesh.
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Re: IM Canada F40-44: new thread [OkotoksLawyer] [ In reply to ]
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fundraising her legal fund perhaps?
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Re: IM Canada F40-44: new thread [walie] [ In reply to ]
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Lawyer may be on contingency.
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Re: IM Canada F40-44: new thread [sciguy] [ In reply to ]
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sciguy wrote:

Well his mirror didn't seem to help Dave avoid the draft marshals at the Auburn Tri;)

yowch

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Re: IM Canada F40-44: new thread [stevej] [ In reply to ]
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stevej wrote:
h2ofun wrote:


What is wrong with helmet mirrors? I race with it all the time. They are not illegal.


Are you sure about that?

I just looked at IMCHOO's athlete guide and....

" Helmet mirrors or mirrors attached to the bike or body are prohibited unless needed for a verifiable medical reason. Athletes granted permission to use a mirror will be ineligible for awards or World Championship entry slots. Athletes using a mirror without permission will be disqualified."

Those with a hearing impairment should be permitted to use a mirror.
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Re: IM Canada F40-44: new thread [thisgirl] [ In reply to ]
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Not likely IMO.... Tough to take a percentage on Zero. Pro bono perhaps, but contingency is highly unlikely. But stranger things have happened (e.g. this thread and the previous two ;) )
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Re: IM Canada F40-44: new thread [legalgooner] [ In reply to ]
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legalgooner wrote:
Not likely IMO.... Tough to take a percentage on Zero. Pro bono perhaps, but contingency is highly unlikely. But stranger things have happened (e.g. this thread and the previous two ;) )

Is contingency legal in Canada ?
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Re: IM Canada F40-44: new thread [OkotoksLawyer] [ In reply to ]
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OkotoksLawyer wrote:
Someone who needs to raise money from the public to fund her trip to an age group triathlon race, that she allegedly cheats at, now has money to retain a lawyer to threaten and/or sue the website hosting a forum discussing her proven and/or alleged cheating.

The world needs more paragons of humanity like this. Sheesh.

lol
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Re: IM Canada F40-44: new thread [marcag] [ In reply to ]
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While I do not practice in Canada, I understand that it is a "legal" form of representation.
Last edited by: legalgooner: Sep 1, 15 17:06
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Re: IM Canada F40-44: new thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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Dan,

I feel that you have been very fair and balanced in both your comments and governing a frustrated crowd. I ask a simple question and am interested in your thoughts. If Ms. Miller was disqualified from a qualifying event then aren't her results in China automatically null. i.e. If I were the NY Yankees and made it to the World Series and Won.....Then it was determined I was disqualified from the event which put me into the world series....It would seem I couldn't win the world series if I was disqualified in the round before I got there. Before or after the result. Thoughts? Mostly trying to understand how all these different organizations rule in these circumstances. I defer to your extensive knowledge over my limited knowledge.
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