echappist wrote:
trail wrote:
Yeah. I try to understand the context of riding "for" the Crown Prince of Bahrain, who's done some awful things (allegedly). Or Astana in the past. Tough to decide if sport is an agent of change or just "sportswashing."
But I think that a line has been crossed in this one...really hard to rationalize on this one.
The gold standard might be Gino Bartali who did a great job of undermining the attempts for the fascist Italian government to use him as propaganda, while, of course, secretly working for the Italian Resistance.
One shouldn’t expect most professional sportspeople to exhibit a moral code much higher than caring for what benefits them. Most got into this because of the monetary opportunities, and it shouldn’t be all that surprising that self-interest rules the day for most.
Saudis committing atrocities? Eff that, they’ll be lured to play for Newcastle. And fans will show up, too.
Qataris using slave labor to build stadia for World Cup? No matter, they’ll chase the big paychecks from PSG.
Communist China and the atrocities against Uighurs? That, too, can be overlooked, as winter Olympians queue up for the opportunity to partake in the 2022 Olympics.
Sportwashing works, because both the fans and the athletes don’t care in sufficient numbers. Former want to be entertained; latter want to be paid. Everyone lets his/her self-interest dictate decision, and moral principles can f*** right off.
In this regard, Nibali is more at fault. He’s had his time feeding at the till (provided for by various autocrats) but like a greedy farm animal, just can’t say no to it. Dombrowski is slightly less culpable, as he’s less financially secure.
That’s the state of the world, one in which Don Ogre, despite his odious behavior, is orders of magnitude better than some of the other team managements around.
PS. My wife loves Olympic ice soccer (growing up in Canada does that); i, too, like ice soccer. No Olympics for either of us. Some of you know how much i enjoy my lawn hockey; no World Cup spectating for me.
I'll be rooting for Joe. I know him pretty well and have come to know some things relative to his decision to sign there, but ST isn't a place where I'd share them. (All due respect to this august group.)
Bigger pic is that if the source of funds for pro teams in all sports, around the globe were thoroughly vetted so as to achieve a pass/fail for morality, then lots of rich guys and entities and countries wouldn't make the cut. I don't pretend to know the answer, but if Astana or any team can maybe give folks something to look forward to, to pull for, then maybe there's value in that; even if their funding is suspect.
So to flip it, is there a team that could be rooted for based upon the team values and approach and whose sponsors are benevolent, reputable businesses that give back to society? I'll noodle this.
I'm a Green Bay Packer fan based upon the sound management there, many of the fans are stockholders, literally, and their fans are some of the nicest, unjaded people and most knowledgeable fans out there. It is a small market team. If they moved I'm afraid the perfectly nice little town of Green Bay would crumble. It's nice to see them be so consistently good, going up against the LA and NY teams that are often more attractive places for the athletes to live and play. Not a lot of the guys ice fish.