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Re: S-WORKS SHIV DISC 2019 IS HERE [ericlambi] [ In reply to ]
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jkhayc wrote:


This thread is about real bikes.


HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA best comment ever about Dimond!

Dimond is a much nicer bike than this. This Specialized will be slower and is competing with the Ventum for the ugliest available bicycle.

I would bet my 401k the new shiv is faster.

2024: Bevoman, Galveston, Alcatraz, Marble Falls, Santa Cruz
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Re: S-WORKS SHIV DISC 2019 IS HERE [Badger2501] [ In reply to ]
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https://www.specialized.com/us/en/new-shiv

Launched.

Interesting that they dummy proofed their fit app. They have you measure from a wall and the floor and give those measurements. I don't know those measurements.... I just know pad x and y. Wish I could just give those measurements into the app. Also... why does specialized list the reach and stack to the fork? Cervelo does the same thing. There's no need to show it (pad x and y are what matters) on a bike with an oem proprietary front end.

Still curious to see how the straw/hose is routed.

So you store your flat kit underneath the fuel cell in the downtube? Is there a separate compartment for the flat kit? How much room is there (enough for 2 tubes, 2 co2's, multi tool?)?? How does the fuel cell mount/fasten? Can it be removed quickly to change a flat?

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Re: S-WORKS SHIV DISC 2019 IS HERE [DFW_Tri] [ In reply to ]
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A bike optimized for Kona...?????!! I mean seriously, the number of athletes doing Kona who might consider buying this bike is what....at the very most like 100 (and more likely 25-50)....compared to the potential tri bike buying population that number is tiny. What a stupid marketing strategy.

Very true kona and Galveston are the windest races I have raced, most course don’t compare.

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Re: S-WORKS SHIV DISC 2019 IS HERE [stevej] [ In reply to ]
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Just throw it all in and pray you can find it when needed!

The straw routing will be interesting to see, seems like it could be problematic.

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Re: S-WORKS SHIV DISC 2019 IS HERE [stevej] [ In reply to ]
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So, it's spec'ed with 24c Turbo Cotton tires. Fast rollers, but not terribly aero. I'm a little surprised they didn't come up with a new tire for this.

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Re: S-WORKS SHIV DISC 2019 IS HERE [gary p] [ In reply to ]
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LOLOLOLOL

Have you not seen the Tom A. tire data?

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Re: S-WORKS SHIV DISC 2019 IS HERE [Toothengineer] [ In reply to ]
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found this on FB

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Re: S-WORKS SHIV DISC 2019 IS HERE [culpritbicycles] [ In reply to ]
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That’s a lot of m&m’s. Where is the spare tubes and co2’s going?

Looks like a much lower bike then past shiv, which is nice.

2024: Bevoman, Galveston, Alcatraz, Marble Falls, Santa Cruz
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Re: S-WORKS SHIV DISC 2019 IS HERE [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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BryanD wrote:
LOLOLOLOL

Have you not seen the Tom A. tire data?


Yes, I've seen Tom A's data. Its a fast roller (i.e. low .crr) But the aero sucks at higher yaw angles, which is what this frame is supposed to do best. As far as I understand, Tom runs Turbo Cottons on just about everything..... other than a TT bike.


This was a golden opportunity to launch a new TT tire that had something close to the Turbo Cotton .crr, but also had the right shape to compliment all the aero work that went into this frame and those Roval CLX 64's. It would also be something they could sell now to those of us who couldn't consider this bike until the more moderately priced derivatives come to market 2-3 years down the road.

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Re: S-WORKS SHIV DISC 2019 IS HERE [Chris_Mint] [ In reply to ]
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This looks a "dummy" bike. An aero bike from 1993. Brutal. It'll be weird when everyone is buying LG bikes next year.
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Re: S-WORKS SHIV DISC 2019 IS HERE [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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Interesting placement of the torpedo but shows tilt.



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Re: S-WORKS SHIV DISC 2019 IS HERE [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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I just saw that it will be as expected 14k USD (and hopefully 12k €) for the bike incl. the baike bag.
You´ll have to pay 1k to your dealer already as a reservation and the other 13k in March 2019 when you pick it up.

I absolutely need a new bike but all I was asking for was something like a P5-6 with disc brakes and a integrated handlebar, hydrtion and bento box like the Speedmax CF SLX.
But I don´t get why everyone is trying to invent the bike from scratch now. I am not totally against the design of the new Shiv but seriously? A complete new and weird design for less than 60sec on a 5h bike ride?
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Re: S-WORKS SHIV DISC 2019 IS HERE [Chris_Mint] [ In reply to ]
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Re: S-WORKS SHIV DISC 2019 IS HERE [culpritbicycles] [ In reply to ]
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found this on FB

Based on this image that rear hydration is going to be a PIA in real life. That is a super long straw and unless its 100% the reservoir is substantially higher that the mouth piece. That means there will be a lot of liquid pooling in the tubes just waiting to get real gross. Even if it is removal for cleaning getting the gunk out of a tube that long is not going to be easy.

I would also be concerned about constantly removing a tube in that region unless I am using SRAM etap. The cable housing presumably runs in that region and its surprising easy to get the internal cable guides in a tangled mess if you have to force the new cables through them. Specialised already made this mistake with the Transition which due to a similar cable arrangement allows the internal guides to twist around each other when you trying and install new cables.
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Re: S-WORKS SHIV DISC 2019 IS HERE [Chris_Mint] [ In reply to ]
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If a monopost is better than a traditional aerobar, why is a triple headtube better than a traditional one?
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Re: S-WORKS SHIV DISC 2019 IS HERE [scott8888] [ In reply to ]
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Thought I might prefer it without the pizza box on the back... Still not sure...
Also wonder who their sacrificial lamb will be to blaze up the beginning of the bike course for TV time.

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Re: S-WORKS SHIV DISC 2019 IS HERE [nchristi] [ In reply to ]
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The monopost design is required to clean up the straw exit for the hydration system. The way the straw wiggles via the frame to the fork/bars means it will kill the handling unless it goes centrally. You need the whole front end to pivot around the straw rather than flex the straw. This also requires a beefy monopost as it need a big void for the straw. My instinct is Once you have designed for the straw adding additional struts only slows things down.
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Re: S-WORKS SHIV DISC 2019 IS HERE [scott8888] [ In reply to ]
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JackL wrote:
I'm sorry, but the hydration rear sail is hideous.

Ohio_Roadie wrote:
That luggage in the back also looks like a late addition or after thought.
This... without the "I'm sorry".

DFW_Tri wrote:
A bike optimized for Kona...?????!! I mean seriously, the number of athletes doing Kona who might consider buying this bike is what....at the very most like 100 (and more likely 25-50)....compared to the potential tri bike buying population that number is tiny. What a stupid marketing strategy.
It's the new version of the "fast around the Nurburgring" idiocy.

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found this on FB
http://i64.tinypic.com/2lm4gmr.jpg

Based on this image that rear hydration is going to be a PIA in real life.
Yup. Better start devising a high pressure contraption and stocking on hypochlorite to clean that mess up. I doubt regular 50ml syringes will cut it.
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Re: S-WORKS SHIV DISC 2019 IS HERE [culpritbicycles] [ In reply to ]
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They need to make an ice luge version of this for their Kona party

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Re: S-WORKS SHIV DISC 2019 IS HERE [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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For the 100th time on here, I don’t get paid by brands. I give my opinions.
how can you have an opinion if you have not used the bike and have not seen tests.
what you have is emotions that you prefer the look of the shiv


i like what they did but i just dont think no bike is worth the price tag .
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Re: S-WORKS SHIV DISC 2019 IS HERE [nchristi] [ In reply to ]
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In a traditional design, the fork crown is a tough Aero challenge. It's tilted according to the the head tube angle, flat and wide to merge into the legs. Usually, the frame down tube is widened to streamline the fork. It works -but the leading edge is still bad.

This design moves the fork crown upwards above the headset - tilts the 'crown' horizontal, parallel to the airflow. The large shoulders are a trade-off but at least they can be streamlined, whereas a traditional fork crown cannot. The Wilier twinblade still had a crown.

Personally, I like how this cockpit pushes the boundaries!
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Re: S-WORKS SHIV DISC 2019 IS HERE [scott8888] [ In reply to ]
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The routing doesn’t look too bad. Similar to a front derailleur.

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Re: S-WORKS SHIV DISC 2019 IS HERE [Chris_Mint] [ In reply to ]
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despite James's and Bryan's off-putting comments, this bike is growing on me.

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Re: S-WORKS SHIV DISC 2019 IS HERE [Thorax] [ In reply to ]
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Might have to borrow a book from the beer homebrew crowd and pressure-blow some StarSan or other food-grade sanitizer through the pipes.

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Re: S-WORKS SHIV DISC 2019 IS HERE [ericMPro] [ In reply to ]
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ericMPro wrote:
despite James's and Bryan's off-putting comments, this bike is growing on me.

Yeah I also came from "FUGLY" -> "Maybe not too bad -> back to "mehh..."
Because I thought it might be not too bad if you get rid of the sail (a gigantic sail that just saves you about 28sec on a 5h ride... tssss...) and also those cheap wheelset.
But than I realized that I would need to pay 14k for a bike where I would need to throw the wheels, the crank and the hydration system.
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