Re: S-WORKS SHIV DISC 2019 IS HERE [BayDad] [ In reply to ]

Oct 8, 18 11:20

Post #76 of 874 (16047 views)

Specialized claims that the resulting bike is almost a minute faster than the fastest 2011 Shiv setup possible. But compare it to the average Shiv set up (without the Fuelcell, Slammed bars, cleanest cable routing, and BTA bottle), and the new Shiv is minutes faster around the Kona course.

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Re: S-WORKS SHIV DISC 2019 IS HERE [Grant.Reuter] [ In reply to ]

Oct 8, 18 11:24

Post #77 of 874 (16034 views)

You might be onto something here, but bikerumors say Specialized says this bike is optimized for Kona crosswinds.

If that's indeed so, the fast guys can remain on P5/SC with peace in mind ;) (of course, I'm more from (even if illegal) TTer perspective)

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Re: S-WORKS SHIV DISC 2019 IS HERE [BryanD] [ In reply to ]

Oct 8, 18 11:25

Post #78 of 874 (16026 views)

They should have just made a beam bike with fuselage storage.

Washed up footy player turned Triathlete.

Re: S-WORKS SHIV DISC 2019 IS HERE [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]

Oct 8, 18 11:26

Post #79 of 874 (16019 views)

TheStroBro wrote:

They should have just made a beam bike with fuselage storage.

Nah...beam bikes are meh....

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Re: S-WORKS SHIV DISC 2019 IS HERE [BryanD] [ In reply to ]

Oct 8, 18 11:36

Post #80 of 874 (15957 views)

And this bike looks like it got hit in the face with a shovel!

Washed up footy player turned Triathlete.

Re: S-WORKS SHIV DISC 2019 IS HERE [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]

Oct 8, 18 11:54

Post #81 of 874 (15869 views)

TheStroBro wrote:

They should have just made a beam bike with fuselage storage.

If only someone already thought of that.

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Re: S-WORKS SHIV DISC 2019 IS HERE [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]

Oct 8, 18 11:56

Post #82 of 874 (15854 views)

It took me a while to find those hidden pictures of the Shiv Disc but i cannot figure out the logic behind the youtube links that specialized gave to bike rumor.
They are called "Shiv 2" and "Shiv 3" and they are not listed (so you cannot find them on youtube when you search it).

But to my knowledge their should be around 5 Videos ( at least "Shiv 1" with the full introduction) would be there.
Is there any Einstein out there who could find those missing videos on youtube??

These are the already known videos (all posted on the 4th Oct)

Thanks in advance

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Re: S-WORKS SHIV DISC 2019 IS HERE [The GMAN] [ In reply to ]

Oct 8, 18 11:56

Post #83 of 874 (15854 views)

Except for the fact it's a Dimond

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Re: S-WORKS SHIV DISC 2019 IS HERE [The GMAN] [ In reply to ]

Oct 8, 18 11:59

Post #84 of 874 (15844 views)

Gah...meant fuselage hydration...

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Re: S-WORKS SHIV DISC 2019 IS HERE [Pro_Sandbagger] [ In reply to ]

Oct 8, 18 12:16

Post #85 of 874 (15769 views)

Pro_Sandbagger wrote:

Yes. However, I don't really see (and I'm no aerodyanmics expert) how having two more vertical bars (i.e. more frontal area) that the air has to wrap around will make it better. Specifically when other manufactueres are trying to reduce the number of solids that the air has to wrap around. Specialized didn't want to jump on that bandwagon and said, "we'll add more!"

Yeah, seems odd to reduce frontal area with a mono-post aerobar riser, then give it all back with that unconventional fork. But Specialized has a wind tunnel and I failed college calculus, so I'm begrudgingly willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.

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Re: S-WORKS SHIV DISC 2019 IS HERE [gary p] [ In reply to ]

Oct 8, 18 13:04

Post #86 of 874 (15597 views)

Ok I found it.
This is the official launch video.
It seems it not to be public yet but enjoy:

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Re: S-WORKS SHIV DISC 2019 IS HERE [BryanD] [ In reply to ]

Oct 8, 18 13:07

Post #87 of 874 (15565 views)

BryanD wrote:

Specialized claims that the resulting bike is almost a minute faster than the fastest 2011 Shiv setup possible. But compare it to the average Shiv set up (without the Fuelcell, Slammed bars, cleanest cable routing, and BTA bottle), and the new Shiv is minutes faster around the Kona course.

That works out to ~13watts faster than the old Shiv in it's "fastest" possible configuration. If true, it's ~5 watts faster than the 2nd gen Speed Concept which would be quite impressive.

Re: S-WORKS SHIV DISC 2019 IS HERE [The GMAN] [ In reply to ]

Oct 8, 18 13:10

Post #88 of 874 (15554 views)

The GMAN wrote:

TheStroBro wrote:

They should have just made a beam bike with fuselage storage.

If only someone already thought of that.

This thread is about real bikes.

Re: S-WORKS SHIV DISC 2019 IS HERE [jkhayc] [ In reply to ]

Oct 8, 18 13:14

Post #89 of 874 (15518 views)

jkhayc wrote:

This thread is about real bikes.

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA best comment ever about Dimond!

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Re: S-WORKS SHIV DISC 2019 IS HERE [GreenPlease] [ In reply to ]

Oct 8, 18 13:29

Post #90 of 874 (15449 views)

GreenPlease wrote:

BryanD wrote:

Specialized claims that the resulting bike is almost a minute faster than the fastest 2011 Shiv setup possible. But compare it to the average Shiv set up (without the Fuelcell, Slammed bars, cleanest cable routing, and BTA bottle), and the new Shiv is minutes faster around the Kona course.

That works out to ~13watts faster than the old Shiv in it's "fastest" possible configuration. If true, it's ~5 watts faster than the 2nd gen Speed Concept which would be quite impressive.

But I don´t really get it. So this is the launch edition bike which will be limited to 500 bikes and they will be delivered by March 2019. But when are the not limited non launching bikes coming? Or are they not coming and this is kind of a prototype.

Specialized is really trying to built up some pressure to make the people buying the bike before there is any test or review on it as they say it will be sold out soon. Are they afraid of people not buying it at all or that they are not buying once they saw a review :)

Re: S-WORKS SHIV DISC 2019 IS HERE [Chris_Mint] [ In reply to ]

Oct 8, 18 13:30

Post #91 of 874 (15449 views)

It's marketing! People want limited editions.

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Re: S-WORKS SHIV DISC 2019 IS HERE [awenborn] [ In reply to ]

Oct 8, 18 13:32

Post #92 of 874 (15435 views)

+1 on the pure hideousness of it

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Re: S-WORKS SHIV DISC 2019 IS HERE [BryanD] [ In reply to ]

Oct 8, 18 13:37

Post #93 of 874 (15400 views)

BryanD wrote:

jkhayc wrote:

This thread is about real bikes.

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA best comment ever about Dimond!

Dimond is a much nicer bike than this. This Specialized will be slower and is competing with the Ventum for the ugliest available bicycle.

Dimond Bikes Superfan

Re: S-WORKS SHIV DISC 2019 IS HERE [ericlambi] [ In reply to ]

Oct 8, 18 13:41

Post #94 of 874 (15371 views)

ericlambi wrote:

BryanD wrote:

jkhayc wrote:

This thread is about real bikes.

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA best comment ever about Dimond!

Dimond is a much nicer bike than this. This Specialized will be slower and is competing with the Ventum for the ugliest available bicycle.

I doubt that.

Re: S-WORKS SHIV DISC 2019 IS HERE [Chris_Mint] [ In reply to ]

Oct 8, 18 13:46

Post #95 of 874 (15339 views)

This probably isn't the one you're after, but I thought maybe worth posting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oa5p4iJW1Q4

I wanna go fast!

Re: S-WORKS SHIV DISC 2019 IS HERE [ericlambi] [ In reply to ]

Oct 8, 18 13:50

Post #96 of 874 (15322 views)

Dimond is the ugliest junk around. And yes, I have ridden one.

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Re: S-WORKS SHIV DISC 2019 IS HERE [BryanD] [ In reply to ]

Oct 8, 18 13:51

Post #97 of 874 (15312 views)

True QR got me that way. Also that color is expensive!

Re: S-WORKS SHIV DISC 2019 IS HERE [GreenPlease] [ In reply to ]

Oct 8, 18 13:58

Post #98 of 874 (15276 views)

GreenPlease wrote:

Dimond is a much nicer bike than this. This Specialized will be slower and is competing with the Ventum for the ugliest available bicycle.

I doubt that.[/quote]
I don't. But in any case, when someone says "Optimized for Kona conditions", I hear "Not very fast in normal conditions". Perhaps that's unfair. I certainly am way faster on my Dimond than I was on a Speed Concept, which marketed with the same Kona-optimized gimmick.

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Re: S-WORKS SHIV DISC 2019 IS HERE [GreenPlease] [ In reply to ]

Oct 8, 18 14:03

Post #99 of 874 (15253 views)

GreenPlease wrote:

BryanD wrote:

Specialized claims that the resulting bike is almost a minute faster than the fastest 2011 Shiv setup possible. But compare it to the average Shiv set up (without the Fuelcell, Slammed bars, cleanest cable routing, and BTA bottle), and the new Shiv is minutes faster around the Kona course.

That works out to ~13watts faster than the old Shiv in it's "fastest" possible configuration. If true, it's ~5 watts faster than the 2nd gen Speed Concept which would be quite impressive.

Not sure I follow your math. If they said the Shiv Disc is ‘almost a minute faster’ over 112 miles the watt savings is going to be much less than 13

Matt

Re: S-WORKS SHIV DISC 2019 IS HERE [Pun_Times] [ In reply to ]

Oct 8, 18 14:16

Post #100 of 874 (15195 views)

Pun_Times wrote:

GreenPlease wrote:

BryanD wrote:

Specialized claims that the resulting bike is almost a minute faster than the fastest 2011 Shiv setup possible. But compare it to the average Shiv set up (without the Fuelcell, Slammed bars, cleanest cable routing, and BTA bottle), and the new Shiv is minutes faster around the Kona course.

That works out to ~13watts faster than the old Shiv in it's "fastest" possible configuration. If true, it's ~5 watts faster than the 2nd gen Speed Concept which would be quite impressive.

Not sure I follow your math. If they said the Shiv Disc is ‘almost a minute faster’ over 112 miles the watt savings is going to be much less than 13

Yeah...by the quick ROT of 1s/km ~= 10W, I'm getting more like 3W.

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