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Re: **2018 TdF** Spoiler Alerts [Ron_Burgundy] [ In reply to ]
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Ron_Burgundy wrote:
cartsman wrote:
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When the contenders decide they want to get rid of GVA, they will. It's just a matter of time......


Great ride from him today though, always good to see riders result respecting the yellow jersey. Hell of a ride from Alaphilippe as well!


Perfect day for a breakaway, non mountain top finish, early sprint point, generally an "easy" day. Uran is clearly done, Valverde was getting gapped off today, he will be done tomorrow. Majka/Zakarin also getting dropped today. If you get dropped today you are for sure not hanging on tomorrow.

Tomorrow will likely be the first test, 108km day, with a tough climb out of the gate. If your sky, tomorrow is the perfect day for a serious attack early, its either up or down all day. Conversely, Sky might simply control the pace all day to set up Thursdays final climb as their moment to take over the race. I do suspect that Sky would rather have Froome take the lead then deal with Thomas taking the lead. With the current situation they are effectively down one rider until this is sorted out. Alpe d'Huez is a perfect climb for Froome and the more i think about it he will likely target that climb. Thomas can often fake it for two weeks, but then fades.

I agree. Especially now with only 8 man teams instead of 9. Last year Thomas crashed out and effectively made them an 8 man team, but there is no Mikel Landa on their team this year. The longer Thomas is allowed to race for himself, the more pressure there is on the other 6 guys on Sky to lead an effective train. I really like Poels as a guy who can step up, but he also did a shit ton of work as Froome's lieutenant at the Giro. Maybe Bernal? But he seems more of a punchy climber rather than a hard tempo guy...and he's unproven in a GT.

If the Sky train weakens without Thomas working as the lieutenant, then that opens up far more opportunity for the rest of the GC guys to attack. And that doesn't favor Froome or Thomas who rather ride a consistent hard tempo rather than constant attacks, slowing, etc.
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Re: **2018 TdF** Spoiler Alerts [Jason N] [ In reply to ]
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so we apparently had a Evil Knivel clearing over the race today. dude actually went no handed while in mid air; pretty bad ass

http://www.stickybottle.com/...ps-over-tour-france/
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Re: **2018 TdF** Spoiler Alerts [Carl Spackler] [ In reply to ]
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Re: **2018 TdF** Spoiler Alerts [echappist] [ In reply to ]
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That was sick! Wonder if the riders agree.

Interesting stage tomorrow,, have a feeling it’s gonna go down.
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Re: **2018 TdF** Spoiler Alerts [Carl Spackler] [ In reply to ]
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Nice seeing Tejay in the break.
I keep hearing about how all of these other guys are done when there are 15 within striking distance of The Alien and his flying monkeys.
Sky will in all likelihood grind everyone down but I think we'll still have a GC race at the Tourmelet. I can dream, anyway.
Jungle Bob for the stage win.
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Re: **2018 TdF** Spoiler Alerts [McNulty] [ In reply to ]
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And of course Sagan is in the initial break and easily gets the sprint points. This is too easy for him.
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Re: **2018 TdF** Spoiler Alerts [Sean H] [ In reply to ]
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And of course Sagan is in the initial break and easily gets the sprint points. This is too easy for him.

No one can do what he can do. When he retires, he'll probably fly over the peloton on a mountain bike.
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Re: **2018 TdF** Spoiler Alerts [McNulty] [ In reply to ]
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When he retires? He might do it one of these days after securing the intermediate sprint points - go hide in the trees and fly over the contenders as they come through!

"It's good enough for who it's for" - Grandpa Wayne
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Re: **2018 TdF** Spoiler Alerts [flynnzu] [ In reply to ]
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flynnzu wrote:
When he retires? He might do it one of these days after securing the intermediate sprint points - go hide in the trees and fly over the contenders as they come through!

maybe without a bike........
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Re: **2018 TdF** Spoiler Alerts [any] [ In reply to ]
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16:35:55 CEST36km remaining from 108.5km
Valverde and Soler reach the summit 2:00 behind the break.

I know STs feeling on Valverde but I still hope he makes some noise here. if he could nail this descent, and he could, the final climb is a place he could cause trouble.
ANYTHING to make Sky work would be appreciated.
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Re: **2018 TdF** Spoiler Alerts [dsmallwood] [ In reply to ]
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live.cyclingnews.com wrote:

16:35:55 CEST36km remaining from 108.5km
Valverde and Soler reach the summit 2:00 behind the break.


I know STs feeling on Valverde but I still hope he makes some noise here. if he could nail this descent, and he could, the final climb is a place he could cause trouble.
ANYTHING to make Sky work would be appreciated.

He is making some noise - virtual yellow at the moment!
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Re: **2018 TdF** Spoiler Alerts [dsmallwood] [ In reply to ]
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Movistar is trying, at least making it interesting as opposed to the suffocating Sky parade to Paris.

But why Bahrain was riding on penultimate climb is a head-scratcher.
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Re: **2018 TdF** Spoiler Alerts [dsmallwood] [ In reply to ]
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live.cyclingnews.com wrote:

16:35:55 CEST36km remaining from 108.5km
Valverde and Soler reach the summit 2:00 behind the break.


I know STs feeling on Valverde but I still hope he makes some noise here. if he could nail this descent, and he could, the final climb is a place he could cause trouble.
ANYTHING to make Sky work would be appreciated.

cats amongst the pigeons...
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Re: **2018 TdF** Spoiler Alerts [Carl Spackler] [ In reply to ]
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Sky were taking it pretty easy, trying to get as much as they could out of Moscon, which is why Valverde was pulling away so quickly. I guess Nibali wasn't happy letting Valverde go so hit the front. Looks like Nibali is putting the pressure on on the descent as well.
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Re: **2018 TdF** Spoiler Alerts [echappist] [ In reply to ]
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yikes, I'm afraid Tejay struck out early again... Just like that 2x Alpe d'Huez stage in 2013

edit: that was nonsense above. It's Caruso in the leading four
Last edited by: echappist: Jul 18, 18 8:06
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Re: **2018 TdF** Spoiler Alerts [echappist] [ In reply to ]
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Dumoulin bridging up to Valverde could be an interesting move, but my money is on Sky - who look to still have 6 riders in the train! - catching them both. In which case has Valverde spent all that energy for nothing or will it stretch Sky enough to give Quintana or Landa a chance to do something?
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Re: **2018 TdF** Spoiler Alerts [cartsman] [ In reply to ]
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Sky looks completely in control. Yawn.
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Re: **2018 TdF** Spoiler Alerts [Carl Spackler] [ In reply to ]
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Carl Spackler wrote:
Sky looks completely in control. Yawn.
Honest question here. Why do other teams let Sky control everything? Is it because they aren't as well organized, or they just don't have the riders to do it?
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Re: **2018 TdF** Spoiler Alerts [sjn] [ In reply to ]
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don't have the riders; Sky has a large budget. The support riders can be leaders in their own right on other teams.

Tommy D looks good here
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Re: **2018 TdF** Spoiler Alerts [sjn] [ In reply to ]
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sjn wrote:
Carl Spackler wrote:
Sky looks completely in control. Yawn.

Honest question here. Why do other teams let Sky control everything? Is it because they aren't as well organized, or they just don't have the riders to do it?

Also Sky is a grand tour specialist team, they have no interest in having sprinters or supporting a sprinter. Furthermore, they generally do not focus on the classics either. Therefore, their entire team is full of riders specifically pciked for one job, what you are watching right now. Other teams could do the same but they often split interests between sprinters/classics/grand tours.
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Re: **2018 TdF** Spoiler Alerts [echappist] [ In reply to ]
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This ought to get interesting when Kwiato drops off.
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Re: **2018 TdF** Spoiler Alerts [Carl Spackler] [ In reply to ]
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Carl Spackler wrote:
This ought to get interesting when Kwiato drops off.

Certainly did! Can't believe how quickly Thomas bridged to Dumoulin
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Re: **2018 TdF** Spoiler Alerts [Carl Spackler] [ In reply to ]
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This is amazing tactics from Sky!
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Re: **2018 TdF** Spoiler Alerts [cartsman] [ In reply to ]
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TD and Martin are doing nice work for Sky.
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Re: **2018 TdF** Spoiler Alerts [Carl Spackler] [ In reply to ]
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ugh...

at least Dumoulin seems to be on par with Froome
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