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LIONEL VS JAN. the semi-official race day thread
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So from the looks of it, hardly anyone is going to be able to watch this live in the US, and many other places around the world. I assume that many of you Euros and adjacent time zones will have access, so I propose that you discuss and report live here what you are witnessing. A live RR so to speak, so that those of us who dont have access or the time, can get up and read the play by play as it happened.

I do this with a lot of the race day threads, much more fun to go back and see it in real time how you all saw it. So if not too much trouble for those of you watching, give us some great play by play, with your personal anecdotes of course too...(-;

And if anyone has any pre race info please post up here too, weather, courses, wind, etc.
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Re: LIONEL VS JAN. the semi-official race day thread [monty] [ In reply to ]
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I just looked at Lionel's Race Week clip on Youtube. He definitely looked tired after the long trip which is totally understandable. It is also clear, to me at least, how Jan is a true professional, comfortable in his skin and on home soil. Lionel seems a bit in awe of and nervous around him.

That turn-around ramp looks super fun!
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Re: LIONEL VS JAN. the semi-official race day thread [mkq] [ In reply to ]
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mkq wrote:
I just looked at Lionel's Race Week clip on Youtube. He definitely looked tired after the long trip which is totally understandable. It is also clear, to me at least, how Jan is a true professional, comfortable in his skin and on home soil. Lionel seems a bit in awe of and nervous around him.

That turn-around ramp looks super fun!

Wasn't clear on the purpose of the turnaround ramp.......are they doing multiple short loops and just putting that in for fun?
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Re: LIONEL VS JAN. the semi-official race day thread [SBRcanuck] [ In reply to ]
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So they don’t have to slow down on the 180s
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Re: LIONEL VS JAN. the semi-official race day thread [MRid] [ In reply to ]
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MRid wrote:
So they don’t have to slow down on the 180s

I get that, but are they doing -that- many laps? Maybe they are,,,
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Re: LIONEL VS JAN. the semi-official race day thread [monty] [ In reply to ]
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At risk of a misquote
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What are the viewing options actually?
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Re: LIONEL VS JAN. the semi-official race day thread [SBRcanuck] [ In reply to ]
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SBRcanuck wrote:
MRid wrote:
So they don’t have to slow down on the 180s


I get that, but are they doing -that- many laps? Maybe they are,,,

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Re: LIONEL VS JAN. the semi-official race day thread [MRid] [ In reply to ]
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Re: LIONEL VS JAN. the semi-official race day thread [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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Thomas Gerlach wrote:
MRid wrote:
So they don’t have to slow down on the 180s

That's kind Jan. Has to work in Lionel's favor on that one.

The ramp has nothing to do with Lionel and everything to do with Jan trying to break the WR.

It's pretty obvious that this is Jan's race.

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Re: LIONEL VS JAN. the semi-official race day thread [stevej] [ In reply to ]
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stevej wrote:
Thomas Gerlach wrote:
MRid wrote:
So they don’t have to slow down on the 180s


That's kind Jan. Has to work in Lionel's favor on that one.


The ramp has nothing to do with Lionel and everything to do with Jan trying to break the WR.

It's pretty obvious that this is Jan's race.

Is this a serious thing Jan is trying to do? Is the course that fast?


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Re: LIONEL VS JAN. the semi-official race day thread [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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Thomas Gerlach wrote:
stevej wrote:
Thomas Gerlach wrote:
MRid wrote:
So they don’t have to slow down on the 180s


That's kind Jan. Has to work in Lionel's favor on that one.


The ramp has nothing to do with Lionel and everything to do with Jan trying to break the WR.

It's pretty obvious that this is Jan's race.

Is this a serious thing Jan is trying to do? Is the course that fast?

It seems so. They have gone as far as designing the swim so no sighting will even be required.

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Re: LIONEL VS JAN. the semi-official race day thread [stevej] [ In reply to ]
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In Australia in the 90s they had a triathlon grand prix series they had turn around ramps. It looked spectacular on the highlights. That was the early miles Stewart , brad Bevan and macca era

I wonder if Macca's concept for sub 7 concept has ramps, and if team macca had pitched it to Team Jan a while back

nondraft sub 7,30 would be more impressive than than a draft sub 7
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Re: LIONEL VS JAN. the semi-official race day thread [stevej] [ In reply to ]
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Except there are no world records in triathlon.

I know, I know...
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Re: LIONEL VS JAN. the semi-official race day thread [stevej] [ In reply to ]
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I would be very surprised if Jan goes for a record against Lionel. That time difference would be a huge embarrassment to Lionel. On the other hand, Lionel would be in the history books. Just not for what he wanted.

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Re: LIONEL VS JAN. the semi-official race day thread [stevej] [ In reply to ]
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stevej wrote:
Thomas Gerlach wrote:
MRid wrote:
So they don’t have to slow down on the 180s


That's kind Jan. Has to work in Lionel's favor on that one.


The ramp has nothing to do with Lionel and everything to do with Jan trying to break the WR.

It's pretty obvious that this is Jan's race.

I predict 7:29 for Jan

DNF for Sanders

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Re: LIONEL VS JAN. the semi-official race day thread [milesthedog] [ In reply to ]
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milesthedog wrote:
stevej wrote:
Thomas Gerlach wrote:
MRid wrote:
So they don’t have to slow down on the 180s


That's kind Jan. Has to work in Lionel's favor on that one.


The ramp has nothing to do with Lionel and everything to do with Jan trying to break the WR.

It's pretty obvious that this is Jan's race.


I predict 7:29 for Jan

DNF for Sanders

On what grounds? I think Lionel has proven himself to be one tough son of a bitch, on top of being likeable and respectful.

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Re: LIONEL VS JAN. the semi-official race day thread [AJHull] [ In reply to ]
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AJHull wrote:
milesthedog wrote:
stevej wrote:
Thomas Gerlach wrote:
MRid wrote:
So they don’t have to slow down on the 180s


That's kind Jan. Has to work in Lionel's favor on that one.


The ramp has nothing to do with Lionel and everything to do with Jan trying to break the WR.

It's pretty obvious that this is Jan's race.


I predict 7:29 for Jan

DNF for Sanders


On what grounds? I think Lionel has proven himself to be one tough son of a bitch, on top of being likeable and respectful.

On the grounds that miles here is a Sam Long fanboy.
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Re: LIONEL VS JAN. the semi-official race day thread [AJHull] [ In reply to ]
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AJHull wrote:
milesthedog wrote:
stevej wrote:
Thomas Gerlach wrote:
MRid wrote:
So they don’t have to slow down on the 180s


That's kind Jan. Has to work in Lionel's favor on that one.


The ramp has nothing to do with Lionel and everything to do with Jan trying to break the WR.

It's pretty obvious that this is Jan's race.


I predict 7:29 for Jan

DNF for Sanders


On what grounds? I think Lionel has proven himself to be one tough son of a bitch, on top of being likeable and respectful.

Don't they pull racers when they get lapped and that's a DNF?
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Re: LIONEL VS JAN. the semi-official race day thread [WHITEJM74] [ In reply to ]
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I'm a big Lionel fan, but when's the last time he's had a great Ironman?

He's had an amazing 70.3 run this year and even at Daytona, but Ironman? not so much. I'd love to see him nail it, but his CDA race was less than confidence inspiring, and he doesn't have a Kona slot and isn't going to earn one at this Frodo-fest...

not sure how that has anything to do with Sam; that's purely on Lionel and the question for him is ' is getting beat by 15min on a good day worth not going to Kona?'

I don't think so. The DNF isn't predicted based on his ability, but on that simple question he'll have to ask himself

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Re: LIONEL VS JAN. the semi-official race day thread [milesthedog] [ In reply to ]
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When has Sanders ever DNF'd a race?
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Re: LIONEL VS JAN. the semi-official race day thread [timr] [ In reply to ]
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timr wrote:
I would be very surprised if Jan goes for a record against Lionel. That time difference would be a huge embarrassment to Lionel. On the other hand, Lionel would be in the history books. Just not for what he wanted.

You don't think Jan wants to destroy his competitors and leave no doubt that he is truly the fastest? You don't think Jan smirks when fans think Lionel has a chance to beat him? There is no doubt that he leaves the gas pedal full throttle throughout the whole 140.6.

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Re: LIONEL VS JAN. the semi-official race day thread [stevej] [ In reply to ]
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Kona is exciting for 2-3 hours, I buy it... this, not my apple...

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Re: LIONEL VS JAN. the semi-official race day thread [WHITEJM74] [ In reply to ]
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WHITEJM74 wrote:
When has Sanders ever DNF'd a race?

So, continuing his no-DNF streak outweighs being embarrassed and not qualifying for Kona?

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Re: LIONEL VS JAN. the semi-official race day thread [juanillo] [ In reply to ]
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 I don't watch many sports, but have to admit I find all of Jans races exciting to see from start to finish....Frankfurt, Roth, south Africa , Kona 2019, Gran canaria, daytona.....he blew the doors off the most elite competition like a marvel hero and each race was just phenomenal
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Re: LIONEL VS JAN. the semi-official race day thread [milesthedog] [ In reply to ]
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milesthedog wrote:
WHITEJM74 wrote:
When has Sanders ever DNF'd a race?


So, continuing his no-DNF streak outweighs being embarrassed and not qualifying for Kona?

Probably making more from this race than any Kona finish prize money (endorsements aside but he's got those)
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