Considering the character of the guy, it is vastly possible that he had planned to change clothes by the finish line (maybe handed out by his kids) so he looks good in photos and can document it extensively. Wouldn't rule that out.

Please use "Tennessee Glam" in this case

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He beat his PR by 30 minutes on a warm day plus had time to stop to change clothes. Sweet. Where can I get this guy's training plan?

1:20 at Broad Street [10M] on Sunday

http://broadstreetrun.com/...sAndAwards/Index.cfm

Not bad, considering the hip thing; but well off 3:11 pace

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So are you saying that maybe he actually ran a legit 3:11 but with also a clothing change so he'd look
good for the finish line photo?

Or is he still a cheater but nonetheless wanted to look nice? I don't get it.

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well that's 8 minute miles. that's about what he should be running in "real life".

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Yeah, he beat ME by a whole EIGHT minutes = .9 miles, maybe?

In fact, I may have shared a corral with him [now I feel ... icky]

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Maybe all of you haters should just step back and think about the potential upside of this guy. If he continues his current rate of improvement in marathon pace per mile by this time next year he will be hold the World Record! I bet you'll all shut up then!

I'd pick both barrels right to the temple.

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So, he's a doper, too?

Oh wait, only sprinters dope ... and Kenyan women

Nevermind

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From Yahoo Sports article . . .

“I focused my training to peak for the LV race in order to hopefully qualify for Boston,” he said.

“My race history…is not indicative of my performance level but my training does show an ability to run a sub 3:15 marathon. Many of my races were run for fun or were performed while I had documented injuries.”

Yahoo Canada asked if Rossi had any GPS logs of his training, or of his race at Lehigh Valley. He said yes, but declined to provide them for verification.

Link to article: https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/...tions-205004421.html

Hahaha, what a great defense!

This is beginning to sound a lot like Jason Scotland Williams, the guy that cheated on the 2014 London Marathon (as well as several previous years) and wouldn't admit it even in the face of blindingly obvious evidence.

I've just looked up his times again, apparently he reached the halfway point in a legitimate 2:07, shortly thereafter jumped a barrier and cut 8+ miles off the course and finished in 3:08. Funnily enough his chip "didn't register" on any of the timing mats between halfway and the 35km mark and there were no photos of him on this section of the course, but he still maintained that he ran the full distance.

He was quoted at the time as saying "I have done nothing wrong. I’m a personal trainer. I train every day, seven days a week, for the past seven years. Nobody thinks maybe I just trained hard. No one thinks 'maybe he paced himself through the first half and when the second half came he just let himself go’.”

I wish I could just let myself go, negative split by over an hour and get within 3 mins of the half-marathon world record!

Does he need a larger shovel?

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As many runs as one has to put in for training for a marathon, he should easily be able to produce training logs showing his runs with some pretty fast days. A person attempting to qualify for Boston keeps those logs to track progress

Dave, for someone so sensitive to being bullied I'm surprised and a little disappointed that you started a twitchunt here. You should maintain your high standards and not engage in this sort of behaviour. You will end up losing credibility around here and possibly be seen as a troll. But, maybe...

Are you a descendant of Matthew Hopkins?

If you're a witch, then yes I am. How far are you in today, 26'er yet?

I am not implying anything, besides that looking for sweat on a Tshirt is a pretty poor indication of whether somebody cheated or not. IOW I think after all the hard evidences have been presented, there is no need to harp on dubious "proofs". I think it is actually counter-productive to out the cheater, you provide them with a narrative to debunk your theory (well, it's more than a theory at this point, but I have not read the details). What I find fascinating with all these sociopaths is their need to seek attention and validation despite the fact that they actually don't achieve anything.

I've run my marathon PR in humid heat and my think my Tshirt could have looked "clean" depending of the pictures.

Had to look it up, I admit that

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This is certainly true. Though it is not as straight forward as you might think. For example consider these two pieces of evidence:

If his goal was to BQ and he knew it was going to be tough, it does not sense to pace it at 7:20 when he only needed 7:55. If I presented this argument to a non-runner they likely would consider this weak evidence. A runner would consider this pretty good evidence.

Another example: his response to qualifying was extremely inconsistent with his narcissistic personality. Some would just shrug their shoulders and say, ehh, maybe he had a lot going on in his life. To me psychological response to achievement are habitual and instinctual and there is a significantly validity in pointing out the psychological inconsistency.

All of this is to say there is no such thing as objective evidence.

it is vastly possible that he had planned to change clothes by the finish line (maybe handed out by his kids) so he looks good in photos and can document it extensively. Wouldn't rule that out.

I would rule it out. People will bend sideways to try to find the guilty innocent but common sense usually prevails.

The facts that have been laid out are extremely damning and Rossi has offered no credible defence in all this time. If he had GPS data, a training log, prior results or any number of ways to stop the finger pointing he could have done it long ago. He has done nothing to defend himself and only looked silly in his lame excuses. It's almost beyond comprehension that anyone could actually believe him at this point.

You have to frame your argument to your audience. A non-runner would not understand the difference between a 7:55 and a 7:20 mile, but they would understand the difference between a 3:25 marathon and a 3:11 marathon.


This is just supposition and conjecture. It is not "evidence". "well, I think he should have acted like XXX". No one can say or extrapolate how someone should react to a given circumstance. If his run was legit (highly unlikely), he may simply have been exhausted and spent or overcome with emotion, etc.

That is simply not true.

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It seems as though he's never met a camera he didn't like. EXCEPT for the cameras along the marathon route at Lehigh Valley.

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To be fair, he needed 3:25 to qualify with his age - certainly within his reach with a 22min 5k.

I seriously doubt his 3:11 and is therefore a cheater, but I think he could have qualified fairly with a 3:25ish race.

He could shut everyone down with a GPS log. Just a simple log. But he's not and is proving himself guilty by doing that.

Give the guy a break. He was just trying to set his Paul Ryan marathon PR