The curse of the rainbow jersey strikes early, can only blame himself.
Small bit of redemption for Roglic and riding to the line.
Small bit of redemption for Roglic and riding to the line.
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Re: *Spoilers* 2020 Cycling Restart Thread *Spoilers* [echappist]
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Re: *Spoilers* 2020 Cycling Restart Thread *Spoilers* [echappist]
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Unbelivable. Maybe that jersey is cursed.
Re: *Spoilers* 2020 Cycling Restart Thread *Spoilers* [echappist]
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Haha! Nice.
Wow. Good for Roglic, and for TomD who did some great work to set that final group up.
Wow. Good for Roglic, and for TomD who did some great work to set that final group up.
Re: *Spoilers* 2020 Cycling Restart Thread *Spoilers* [turdburgler]
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Re: *Spoilers* 2020 Cycling Restart Thread *Spoilers* [WannaB]
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WannaB wrote:
Haha! Nice. Wow. Good for Roglic, and for TomD who did some great work to set that final group up.
D not only set up the formation of the group, he seriously disrupted the chase. It seemed like every time they showed the chase he was right behind the guy pulling.
heyMartin wrote:
does Ala get relegated ?Close call. Was a pretty sharp move.
Re: *Spoilers* 2020 Cycling Restart Thread *Spoilers* [moneydog59]
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moneydog59 wrote:
Alaphilippe should get relegated??heyMartin wrote:
oh Roglic just kept working, coming from back of that group of 5 does Ala get relegated ?
I sure hope so. Swerved across 0.75 x the width of the lane. Almost caused Hirschi to crash as well, and definitely impeded Pogacar.
Besides, few things warm the cockles of my heart as much as seeing Don Lefevre go ape-shit apoplectic over a well-earned reprimand.
Yes, lads, I'm being petty and am in full out trolling mode, but they strung themselves up for this one.
Re: *Spoilers* 2020 Cycling Restart Thread *Spoilers* [trail]
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Exciting finish. One thing I noticed is how aero Hirschi looks on a bike. Even in the drops his helmet is almost fits completely within the silhouette of his body, elbows tucked in, and his entire body seems to sit lower than anyone else in that final group.
Re: *Spoilers* 2020 Cycling Restart Thread *Spoilers* [echappist]
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Meanwhile over at the Giro, I just smirk at the story line that Sagan got second in the sprint to move into the blue jersey.
Wait a second, what classification is the blue jersey for?
Wait a second, what classification is the blue jersey for?
Re: *Spoilers* 2020 Cycling Restart Thread *Spoilers* [torrey]
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Meanwhile over at the Giro, I just smirk at the story line that Sagan got second in the sprint to move into the blue jersey. Wait a second, what classification is the blue jersey for?
Yeah, I happened to notice that Sagan picked up 2nd mountain points on yesterday's.....downhill TT.
Re: *Spoilers* 2020 Cycling Restart Thread *Spoilers* [trail]
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I'll let the pictures do the 4,000-word's worth of talking.
Re: *Spoilers* 2020 Cycling Restart Thread *Spoilers* [echappist]
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Re: *Spoilers* 2020 Cycling Restart Thread *Spoilers* [trail]
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trail wrote:
heyMartin wrote:
does Ala get relegated ?Close call. Was a pretty sharp move.
What a complete and utter shitshow. Ala was all over the road in the last km, almost took himself out on Hirschi's rear wheel at one point.
And WTF was Mohoric thinking leading out the sprint from that far when he had just barely made it back?
I think Hirschi would have won if Ala hadn't swung over. It looks like he was unclipped briefly? Still managed to come back strongly. Pog was clearly cooked.
Craziest finish in quite some time!
Re: *Spoilers* 2020 Cycling Restart Thread *Spoilers* [eb]
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I'm not sure of Mohoric figured he had some momentum when he made the catch and just hoped he take them by surprise, or if he was on Team Slovenia domestique duty and wanted to make sure the peloton didn't catch them. 3 slovenians in the top 4 is pretty crazy.
Happy for Roglic though. He deserves something like this. When is Tom D gonna get his? Is he their GC guy for the Vuelta? He's been such a selfless superdomestique thusfar.
Happy for Roglic though. He deserves something like this. When is Tom D gonna get his? Is he their GC guy for the Vuelta? He's been such a selfless superdomestique thusfar.
Re: *Spoilers* 2020 Cycling Restart Thread *Spoilers* [trail]
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And then the look back like where did he come from?!HAHA! Alaphillipe got what he deserved on that one.
I saw at least three scenarios in the last 1.2 km that he almost took out others for pretty irregular riding (similar moved to Bob Jungels in the TdF). The last one took the cake. Definitely deserved the relegation. Hirschi could have won if not for that sudden swerve by Alaphilippe. Nice to see Roglic take that win
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Re: *Spoilers* 2020 Cycling Restart Thread *Spoilers* [devashish_paul]
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Alaphillipe panached himself.
He would have been relegated anyway, or should have been.
Happy for Roglic.
He would have been relegated anyway, or should have been.
Happy for Roglic.
Re: *Spoilers* 2020 Cycling Restart Thread *Spoilers* [McNulty]
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Roglic joins the small fraternity of guys who have won a GT and monument in current era. Glad for him, he deserved it.
Re: *Spoilers* 2020 Cycling Restart Thread *Spoilers* [echappist]
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echappist wrote:
I'll let the pictures do the 4,000-word's worth of talking. Well I have to say that its probably really good that he got relegated after having out Zabel'd Zabel as it would have been more of a controversy had he truly won after cutting competitors off. As it worked out, the commissaires did not need defend themselves to anyone.
Re: *Spoilers* 2020 Cycling Restart Thread *Spoilers* [devashish_paul]
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Roglic joins the small fraternity of guys who have won a GT and monument in current era. Glad for him, he deserved it.Indeed.
That's basically Nibali and Valverde? Does Evans count? I personally think World's is on par with a monument, but others disagree.
Oh, also, there's Cunego, I think? One Giro d'Italia + 3x Girdo di Lombardia?
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echappist wrote:
I'll let the pictures do the 4,000-word's worth of talking.Well I have to say that its probably really good that he got relegated after having out Zabel'd Zabel as it would have been more of a controversy had he truly won after cutting competitors off. As it worked out, the commissaires did not need defend themselves to anyone.
Yeah, fair point. I don't think Don Lefevre has thrown shades yet.
Re: *Spoilers* 2020 Cycling Restart Thread *Spoilers* [Carl Spackler]
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Roglic joins the small fraternity of guys who have won a GT and monument in current era. Glad for him, he deserved it.Since we are on LBL I was thinking about who else did a grand tour and LBL wins.
For some reason I thought Moreno Argentin won LBL and Giro, but his best at Giro were 3rd and 6th. 1986 he won' world's and LBL, 1987 Lombardia + LBL. Frank Schleck is the most recent one I can think of that did LBL + Grand Tour (but not in the same year), LBL 2009, TdF 2010.
On Grand Tour + Monument in the mid 80s there were some good italians at play.
Moser won Milano San Remo and Giro d'Italia both in 1984. But that was ages ago when Grand Tours were often TT heavy. It would be interesting to see an old time Giro that was not that hilly, and you could see several TT and one day specialists or large guys doing well. Moser and Saronni (who won in back to back years 83 and 84 and then Visentini in 86) were great 1 day guys who were roughly gifted the Giro because of local organizers setting the course to favour the strengths of the guys of their nationality from 1983 to 1986. In 1987 some may remember how Visentini lost the Giro because he was attacked by his teammate Stephen Roche and in spite of the entire peloton chasing they never got back at Roche....Giro + TdF + Worlds win for Roche!!!
Re: *Spoilers* 2020 Cycling Restart Thread *Spoilers* [devashish_paul]
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devashish_paul wrote:
Carl Spackler wrote:
Roglic joins the small fraternity of guys who have won a GT and monument in current era. Glad for him, he deserved it.Since we are on LBL I was thinking about who else did a grand tour and LBL wins.
For some reason I thought Moreno Argentin won LBL and Giro, but his best at Giro were 3rd and 6th. 1986 he won' world's and LBL, 1987 Lombardia + LBL. Frank Schleck is the most recent one I can think of that did LBL + Grand Tour (but not in the same year), LBL 2009, TdF 2010.
On Grand Tour + Monument in the mid 80s there were some good italians at play.
Moser won Milano San Remo and Giro d'Italia both in 1984. But that was ages ago when Grand Tours were often TT heavy. It would be interesting to see an old time Giro that was not that hilly, and you could see several TT and one day specialists or large guys doing well. Moser and Saronni (who won in back to back years 83 and 84 and then Visentini in 86) were great 1 day guys who were roughly gifted the Giro because of local organizers setting the course to favour the strengths of the guys of their nationality from 1983 to 1986. In 1987 some may remember how Visentini lost the Giro because he was attacked by his teammate Stephen Roche and in spite of the entire peloton chasing they never got back at Roche....Giro + TdF + Worlds win for Roche!!!
Sean Kelly did win a Vuelta
Re: *Spoilers* 2020 Cycling Restart Thread *Spoilers* [echappist]
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echappist wrote:
devashish_paul wrote:
Carl Spackler wrote:
Roglic joins the small fraternity of guys who have won a GT and monument in current era. Glad for him, he deserved it.Since we are on LBL I was thinking about who else did a grand tour and LBL wins.
For some reason I thought Moreno Argentin won LBL and Giro, but his best at Giro were 3rd and 6th. 1986 he won' world's and LBL, 1987 Lombardia + LBL. Frank Schleck is the most recent one I can think of that did LBL + Grand Tour (but not in the same year), LBL 2009, TdF 2010.
On Grand Tour + Monument in the mid 80s there were some good italians at play.
Moser won Milano San Remo and Giro d'Italia both in 1984. But that was ages ago when Grand Tours were often TT heavy. It would be interesting to see an old time Giro that was not that hilly, and you could see several TT and one day specialists or large guys doing well. Moser and Saronni (who won in back to back years 83 and 84 and then Visentini in 86) were great 1 day guys who were roughly gifted the Giro because of local organizers setting the course to favour the strengths of the guys of their nationality from 1983 to 1986. In 1987 some may remember how Visentini lost the Giro because he was attacked by his teammate Stephen Roche and in spite of the entire peloton chasing they never got back at Roche....Giro + TdF + Worlds win for Roche!!!
Sean Kelly did win a Vuelta
OK now we got Roche and Kelly covered. Now Bennet needs to win a monument and a grand tour....they need a flat Giro like 1983 and award big finish sprint time bonuses (like the Italian trio, Moser, Visentini and Saronni used to mop up all the time).
Re: *Spoilers* 2020 Cycling Restart Thread *Spoilers* [echappist]
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First test for the GC men tomorrow with a tough stage profile.
Conceivably, Ineos could go wire-to-wire with Maglia Rosa.
Conceivably, Ineos could go wire-to-wire with Maglia Rosa.
Re: *Spoilers* 2020 Cycling Restart Thread *Spoilers* [trail]
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Carl Spackler wrote:
First test for the GC men tomorrow with a tough stage profile. Conceivably, Ineos could go wire-to-wire with Maglia Rosa.
Should I be somewhat ashamed that I have yet to catch a glimpse of this year's Giro? So much going on, just haven't gotten around to it yet.
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echappist wrote:
Also, impressive ride by M vdP. Made the peloton chase him for more than an hour and still had enough to hold it off.
That was insane. I can't remember when such a small gap was held for so long against high quality, often cooperative chasers.
I really hope Roubaix happens.
Btw, I was re-watching that stage while I was cooking. I heard that he went solo w/ about 50 km left, and was a bit surprised to see that he had already been OTF. So I had to rewind further and realized that he attacked with ~75 km left with Senechal, linked up with the front group, smashed everyone else in the group (including erstwhile breakmate Senechal) with ~50 km left, and then just soloed.
While his IAB position isn't as good as that of Hirschi Bar, it's still quite good
Re: *Spoilers* 2020 Cycling Restart Thread *Spoilers* [echappist]
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echappist wrote:
Oh man, sorry to hear that. The TT bike is such a cruel mistress: one moment it gives one not only an endorphin high but also the thrills of going fast, the next it literally dumps one on the road.
Speedy recovery!
Exactly.. I was still in prep for a 42km TT in 2 weeks with a really strong field, and I should have done those intervals on te trainer probably given the weather, but yeah. The carbon frame took a beating so I'll have to get that inspected..
Thank you!
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Heal up!Thanks! Fortunately I only have a bit of road rash and a sore shoulder so that shouldn't take too long to heal :)
LFF got what he deserved there, bullshit move in the sprint. Starts the sprint, passes Mohoric and rides right next to the barrier, glances over and sees Hirschi and even Pog coming over the top and just moves over the entire lane. Relegation is what he deserved but it still cost Hirschi his first monument, so it's not much of a consolation for him.. Lefevre screams murder and fire when someone does it to one of his riders (albeit with bigger consequences) but when one of his riders does it, you don't hear anything out of his mouth.
LFF did get what he deserved!
In other news it looks like GvA is out for the rest of the season with a laundry list of injuries from the crashed yesterday.
“X-rays performed at the Centre Hospitalier Universitaire du Sart-Tilman in Liège revealed that Greg sustained an acromioclavicular joint separation as well as three fractured ribs, a small pneumothorax, and a small fracture of the first thoracic vertebra transverse process. Fortunately, he suffered no concussion," CCC Team said.
Sheesh.
In other news it looks like GvA is out for the rest of the season with a laundry list of injuries from the crashed yesterday.
“X-rays performed at the Centre Hospitalier Universitaire du Sart-Tilman in Liège revealed that Greg sustained an acromioclavicular joint separation as well as three fractured ribs, a small pneumothorax, and a small fracture of the first thoracic vertebra transverse process. Fortunately, he suffered no concussion," CCC Team said.
Sheesh.