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Re: Premier Tactical [ahhchon]
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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison]
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dkennison wrote:
We have the 88 front and Disk as standard equipment. We also have 88s rear that match the front. You can just add a note in the comment section at check out if you want the 88 rear instead of the disk - if you want to add an 88 to your order - it will fit nicely in the case as there are slots for three wheels. The 88 rear is the same cost for the swap out.
For blacked out wheels also just ad a note in the comment section.
When an order comes in we will contact you just to make sure everything is as you want it and go over your fit numbers.
Thank you, but I meant as a wheel package. No bike, just buying wheels.
Re: Premier Tactical [minimalist]
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We are working on international orders process. We have been shipping chains for a while now.
There are a few issues with the complete bike. I would need to get optimized chains and power meters shipped to Taiwan so they could be included.
The current price includes ocean freight and duty on the bulk bike order to the US. Those costs could be saved however shipping a single bike from our Taiwan office combined with end user duty/tax has been a challenge from a cost perspective.
Dan Kennison
facebook: @triPremierBike
http://www.PremierBike.com
http://www.PositionOneSports.com
There are a few issues with the complete bike. I would need to get optimized chains and power meters shipped to Taiwan so they could be included.
The current price includes ocean freight and duty on the bulk bike order to the US. Those costs could be saved however shipping a single bike from our Taiwan office combined with end user duty/tax has been a challenge from a cost perspective.
Dan Kennison
facebook: @triPremierBike
http://www.PremierBike.com
http://www.PositionOneSports.com
Re: Premier Tactical [alexer03]
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Yes - I will add the 88 rear to the website soon. I have some on the way and want to put up an accurate image on the site.
Dan Kennison
facebook: @triPremierBike
http://www.PremierBike.com
http://www.PositionOneSports.com
Dan Kennison
facebook: @triPremierBike
http://www.PremierBike.com
http://www.PositionOneSports.com
Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison]
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Thanks. I'll probably be in the market for a new bike after this season, so hopefully you will have that sorted out then.
Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison]
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Still thinking about an XL frame too?
Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison]
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Just curious on the 650 thing. Are you going to able to spec. 650 wheels similar to 700 c Tactical. I use to ride 650 bikes, wheels and tires were always a problem. I know Zipp makes a 650 404 carbon clincher but I do not know any others.
Re: Premier Tactical [rhudson]
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I don't know if we will specify a 404 type wheel. There are a number of high quality manufacturers that are still making 650 in various sizes. We will begin wheel evaluations and testing in the Fall when our ABS frame samples are available.
Dan Kennison
facebook: @triPremierBike
http://www.PremierBike.com
http://www.PositionOneSports.com
Dan Kennison
facebook: @triPremierBike
http://www.PremierBike.com
http://www.PositionOneSports.com
Re: Premier Tactical [ahhchon]
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ahhchon wrote:
any thoughts of giving folks options for crank lengths for the 650cc? i've always ridden 170, cus you know. that's what every bike has. i size down to 167.5. which seems fine. 145/150 seems like it would be such a drastic change after riding 167.5 or larger for the past 10 years.
The problem is that designing for long cranks limits optimising the whole bike design for 650. There are 650 bikes built for long cranks already, so it would be nice to have a properly optimised option.
Re: Premier Tactical [cyclenutnz]
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I agree.
We believe that for the geometry to be correct - the 650 wheels are required. We also believe that the crank length should be proportional. One could justify preference for 145 - 160 but 150 is very close to generally correct from a proper fit position and geometry perspective - as we see it.
Specific morphology will play a role in one end of the range or another.
Dan Kennison
facebook: @triPremierBike
http://www.PremierBike.com
http://www.PositionOneSports.com
We believe that for the geometry to be correct - the 650 wheels are required. We also believe that the crank length should be proportional. One could justify preference for 145 - 160 but 150 is very close to generally correct from a proper fit position and geometry perspective - as we see it.
Specific morphology will play a role in one end of the range or another.
Dan Kennison
facebook: @triPremierBike
http://www.PremierBike.com
http://www.PositionOneSports.com
Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison]
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For those of us that have wanted to see the blacked out wheels, photos are now up on PremierBike's facebook page. Looks gooooood...
https://www.facebook.com/...s/?ref=page_internal
-hope the link works
Dan, any further updates on the potential timing or direction of any paint/design tweaks? (PS Keep the blue!)
https://www.facebook.com/...s/?ref=page_internal
-hope the link works
Dan, any further updates on the potential timing or direction of any paint/design tweaks? (PS Keep the blue!)
Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison]
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Dan,
With the new mounting hardware, are you now able to use them on the opposite side to effectively change the center to center of the extensions and allow for a more narrow set up?
If this is possible can you post the new center to center in both wide and narrow?
With the new mounting hardware, are you now able to use them on the opposite side to effectively change the center to center of the extensions and allow for a more narrow set up?
If this is possible can you post the new center to center in both wide and narrow?
Re: Premier Tactical [rahciao]
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As for wheels - decals we will be standardizing on the new black on all the wheels while having the blue as an option.
Dan Kennison
facebook: @triPremierBike
http://www.PremierBike.com
http://www.PositionOneSports.com
Dan Kennison
facebook: @triPremierBike
http://www.PremierBike.com
http://www.PositionOneSports.com
Re: Premier Tactical [BMANX]
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The two mounting parts are interchangeable. You can go very narrow or very wide. You can get as narrow as having the pads touch. I will provide the max width number when I get the sample in. I would like to mount them to get an exact range.
Dan Kennison
facebook: @triPremierBike
http://www.PremierBike.com
http://www.PositionOneSports.com
Dan Kennison
facebook: @triPremierBike
http://www.PremierBike.com
http://www.PositionOneSports.com
Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison]
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sorry if this has been answered or addressed already, but have you given any thought to the cups/pads in the cockpit. The ones shown look remarkably similar to the older style Tririg ones which were the primary reason I had to ditch those aerobars. They were very uncomfortable. Tririg now offers an upgraded version with a more rounded, comfier shape. Any thoughts on offering something similar?
Re: Premier Tactical [DFW_Tri]
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Maybe in the future. I'll have to check to see if other cups are interchangeable. I have a large selection here and will post up the results.
Edit: I just measured the hole spacing for the elbow cups and its 15 mm on center.
Dan Kennison
facebook: @triPremierBike
http://www.PremierBike.com
http://www.PositionOneSports.com
Edit: I just measured the hole spacing for the elbow cups and its 15 mm on center.
Dan Kennison
facebook: @triPremierBike
http://www.PremierBike.com
http://www.PositionOneSports.com
Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison]
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Same as my PD cups
Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison]
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If this has been asked and answered, I apologize. Is there any consideration for making some things optional? I already own a great wheelset, so don't get value out of the bike coming equipped with them. I also already own a Quarq, so don't get value out of the Pioneer power meter being included. I doubt reselling those parts would offset the savings if the bike were just sold without them to begin with.
Re: Premier Tactical [dgunthert]
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There's a frameset option.
--Chris
--Chris
Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison]
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Sorry found my answer
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Re: Premier Tactical [chriselam]
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There's a big difference between asking for a non-aero wheelset option and sourcing the entire component list and building the bike from scratch.
Re: Premier Tactical [dgunthert]
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You can swap out the disk for an 88 mm rear if you would prefer that.
We also have a frame set price although if you were to purchase all the same components new and build up a bike the cost would be higher.
Dan Kennison
facebook: @triPremierBike
http://www.PremierBike.com
http://www.PositionOneSports.com
We also have a frame set price although if you were to purchase all the same components new and build up a bike the cost would be higher.
Dan Kennison
facebook: @triPremierBike
http://www.PremierBike.com
http://www.PositionOneSports.com
Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison]
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Just a general observation about your venture... At this stage it reminds me very much of the early days of Flo Cycling development, when they regularly engaged over a long period of time pior to their launch with the ST audience, listened to the feedback they got and built up a lot of anticipation. In the end they were rewarded with a very successful launch.
I think building a complete super bike is harder than launching wheels but I think you're doing a lot of things right and I wish you success.
I think building a complete super bike is harder than launching wheels but I think you're doing a lot of things right and I wish you success.
Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison]
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dkennison wrote:
You can swap out the disk for an 88 mm rear if you would prefer that. We also have a frame set price although if you were to purchase all the same components new and build up a bike the cost would be higher.
I wouldn't, really. I've already made the investment in a set of well tested, proven wheels. The honest truth is that your wheels are unknowns. That means I'm not willing to use them to replace the wheels I've got and I'm also unlikely to get much out of trying to resell them to recoup the cost. Surely I'm not the only that is in this situation. Is your cost on the included wheelset really so low that you couldn't swap them out with an adequate set of road rims, keep the same margins, and still drop the price by $500+?
Sorry - I did not read that into your previous post. I have worked out discounts with individual athletes that have wheel that they would prefer to use.
If you would like to contact me directly we can work out a solution for you.
Dan.premierbike@gmail.com
Dan Kennison
facebook: @triPremierBike
http://www.PremierBike.com
http://www.PositionOneSports.com
If you would like to contact me directly we can work out a solution for you.
Dan.premierbike@gmail.com
Dan Kennison
facebook: @triPremierBike
http://www.PremierBike.com
http://www.PositionOneSports.com