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Re: Premier Tactical [Cafe Lactate] [ In reply to ]
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I am tempted to just get the blipbox and the RD and put the blipbox exactly like shown and just run that and see how it goes.


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Re: Premier Tactical [BMANX] [ In reply to ]
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I would if I were you. Heck, tri rig mounted to blip box in an extender and ran no clics/blips. It looks goofy (and not wuite sure how he did it) but many options here.
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Re: Premier Tactical [Sloggy] [ In reply to ]
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Not the best image - It's a lot like the HED profile with slightly angles brake tracks.

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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison] [ In reply to ]
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thanks very much again

last one I promise - do you have a rider weight limit? I am *cough cough* 90 kgs
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Re: Premier Tactical [Sloggy] [ In reply to ]
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You're fine ;-) 220 lbs

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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison] [ In reply to ]
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Wanted to say what others have:

Seeing this bike in person (at the AC 70.3 expo), it's really impressive. Makes me want to need a new bike.

dkennison was there answering questions and talking about the updates he's working on (which is cool), and he was hanging out at the race, too. Really nice guy.
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Re: Premier Tactical [aavlee] [ In reply to ]
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aavlee wrote:
Also a post earlier said that the blip cable length was 300m, I just measured my set and they are 650mm in length.Let me know if you have any questions.

Yeah, that was my bad. I was guess g from memory but I knew they were way too short to route through the frame to the seat tube or BB area. Sure, you can splice longer wire in but to me running 4 wires through the frame mostly defeats the intent of "wireless". To me the benefits of eTap are no wires running to the derailleurs, no entrap battery wired to all the components, freedom to mount the blips virtually anywhere on the cockpit, and the intuitive "paddle style" shifting. I'm okay with the blip box being externally mounted as long as it's clean and out of the way. You want to have easy access to it but doesn't need to be out in the open while riding.

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Re: Premier Tactical [dand] [ In reply to ]
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dand wrote:
Wanted to say what others have:

Seeing this bike in person (at the AC 70.3 expo), it's really impressive. Makes me want to need a new bike.

dkennison was there answering questions and talking about the updates he's working on (which is cool), and he was hanging out at the race, too. Really nice guy.

funnily enough this is one thing putting me off finally pulling the trigger - I've been an early adopter on bikes before and been frustrated by some fairly obvious flaws that soon get fixed, just not on my bike. I'm not talking about parts that could be replaced, but flaws with the frame (yes Planet X Exocet Mk 1, I'm looking at you).

I might wait until there are a few more user reviews out in the wild
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Re: Premier Tactical [Sloggy] [ In reply to ]
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I'm sure Dan can chime in too (I believe he or someone else posted it earlier on the thread), but I probably should have been more specific when I wrote that he was talking about updates:

He was talking about improving some parts, e.g. the cover for the draft box, *and* sending out a replacement to early adopters. I was really impressed by how candid he was about factors in the design and revisions.



Not arguing your point about early adopters, just wanted to clarify (since I see how my post could be read as it did for you).
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Re: Premier Tactical [dand] [ In reply to ]
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Cheers, appreciate it

I'm sure new-bike-excitement will overcome early-adopter-anxiety before long ; )
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Re: Premier Tactical [Sloggy] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks for your post.

As was said there are a few items we are changing in 2.0 but really just upgrades.

We will provide the original PF BB supplied by Shimano (as a back-up) but will install a really nice ceramic BB on the 2.0 bikes.

We will provide a ceramic rear pulley kit for the 2.0 and will also provide the original pulley system for those that want to use it as a race day system.

We currently have standard bar tape and will be upgrading to a nice foam type grip for 2.0.

We will provide a tilt kit as standard with the 2.0 for those that like "high hands".

All these items will be available to our 1.0 purchasers well below the upgraded 2.0 cost as a thank you for being early to purchase.

The 2.0 gets new decals and color options.

The only issue we have had with the bikes is that the rear storage lid is too tight. In my effort to make sure we did not have lids fall off I overcompensated. So new storage boxes with lids are being produced and will be on the 2.0 and I will supply the new version to 1.0 purchasers at no cost.

Other than that we would not change a thing. It's a super sweet ride.

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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison] [ In reply to ]
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Old and New.

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Re: Premier Tactical [Olu] [ In reply to ]
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That's an upgrade!

Boulder/Denver STers -

I'll be racing the Tactical at this weekends Oktoberfest Triathlon in Longmont. Feel free to check out the Tactical, grab my attention for some questions, or shoot me a message to arrange another time to check out the bike in Boulder. It is a sweet ride!

Jack Toland

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Re: Premier Tactical [Olu] [ In reply to ]
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Quite the upgrade there! You really maxed out that forward saddle position didn't you! Is your saddle height that different or is there some sort of optical illusion going on.
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Re: Premier Tactical [aavlee] [ In reply to ]
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aavlee wrote:
Quite the upgrade there! You really maxed out that forward saddle position didn't you! Is your saddle height that different or is there some sort of optical illusion going on.

There's no optical illusion. The seat is lower in that shot. Still working out issues with the seat.

It's definitely an upgrade from the B10. Funny thing is that with the Zipp wheels, crank & brake upgrades, power meter...etc. It was almost double the price....7 years ago!
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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison] [ In reply to ]
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Finishing up on the XS.

No - I don't recommend the two water bottles for racing :-)

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Re: Premier Tactical [Olu] [ In reply to ]
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I was first introduced to Premier Bike through Brian Stover just after the aerotest. Dan was immediately helpful over email in discussing the bike and how it all worked.

I had some time off between switching jobs and decided to visit Dan in Joliet to collect the bike. Dan was a gentleman in helping me find somewhere to stay in town and chicago. Dan also came to pick me up from the airport and took me back to his home where he and his lovely wife Victoria fed me deep dish pizza. I was so touched by this warmth and friendliness from complete strangers but to me it underlines the brand Dan is building. Dan then worked through the night to have the bike ready so I could go to Chicago the next day.

Riding the bike is comfy and it feels fast and slick through the air. I had ridden it a little bit on the turbo and for 20 minutes outside before taking to my half ironman a race on Saturday. Despite ferocious wind and my temporary perched position, the bike handled beautifully, comfortably and whipped round the course helping me set a 10 minute faster split over last year. I'm so excited to see what we can do together next season.

The bike also looks gorgeous and the comments it has had when I've been out and about with it shows how fantastic a product it is aesthetically but practically, it's a super bike with super bike times at a ridiculously low price.

I should also say that I'm the least techie person in the world. Dan has endured my constant emails for advice and help, immediately, with humour and excellent customer service. Dan is simply the man.

I would have no hesitation in recommending Dan, Premier Bike and the Tactical and have already recommended it to 4 other triathletes.

See you for the road bike when she's ready!

Ollie
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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison] [ In reply to ]
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Hi All -

Reporting in after my first race aboard the Tactical. I managed to claim the win at the Oktoberfest Triathlon off a 27.1 mph bike split aboard the Tactical. One of the big questions for me before climbing aboard the Tactical was fit - can I get enough reach? I'm 6'4", 37" inseam and ride with a fairly stretched out position. I had the Speed Concept maxed out in reach. I've included a few pictures of my position aboard the bike below. I still have another 2cm of reach and ~3cm of seat post extension possible on the stock setup. I do plan to add the tilt kit.

Unfortunately I don't have any great data from this event as I made the notice mistake of not zero'ing my powermeter after the first pairing, but I will have a solid 30min effort to gather some great data this Sunday.










Pictures thanks to SkiPix.com (Longmont, CO)



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Last edited by: JTolandTRI: Oct 5, 17 7:00
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Re: Premier Tactical [JTolandTRI] [ In reply to ]
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Jack - Nice images thank you.

I just got notice that the tilt kits will ship to me today so I'll make sure you get a set.

Congratulations on the result.

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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks for helping out my friend from Rockford yesterday. She's totally geeked about getting her new Tactical!
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Re: Premier Tactical [dangle] [ In reply to ]
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Very nice to work with and looks to be a very serious athlete. A little chit-chat to get to know each other - but as soon as she went up on the trainer she was all business. Glad I could dial her in. All the AG'ers around Rockford, Illinois need to listen for "on your left" from this nice lady. :-)

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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks Dan!

Great to hear the tilt kits are on the way.

Jack Toland

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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison] [ In reply to ]
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Hi Dan,

I've been wondering... Have you considered offering your wheels with ceramic bearings? (correct me if I'm wrong, that they are currently standard issue bearings). With the other ceramic upgrades that you've added, I just wondered why this one hasn't been added?
Thanks!
Jon
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Re: Premier Tactical [JBell] [ In reply to ]
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I have been looking into it. There are trade-offs. The ceramic bearing issue gets more and more interesting the deeper we look in to it. A really fantastic steel bearing Is sometimes a better option. But there are a lot of considerations based on what the athlete is will to trade and how involved they want to get.

If we decide to go in that direction we will also evaluate more hub options.

As an example: with the 2.0 Tactical we are replacing the standard press fit BB with our new ceramic bearing system. It is really a much better long term solution as a system and has reduced friction at a small (athlete involvement trade off).

But for the rear ceramic pulley system we will leave the stock Shimano system on the bike for everyday training and include the 11/15 ceramic system in a kit so athletes can install it a few weeks before a big race if they want too. That upgrade does not meet the better overall system criteria like the BB in our eyes. Maybe a very very slight friction advantage but nothing like the overall benifit as the BB system provides.

With the wheels we are looking at those type trade offs.

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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison] [ In reply to ]
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Very interesting. I admit, I am completely naive to the negatives of ceramic, but I appreciate that you are. I know that for me, I want "free speed", but not if it becomes a high maintenance pain to deal with.
Thanks for sharing.
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