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Re: Premier Tactical [JTolandTRI] [ In reply to ]
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Great pictures. Thanks, Jack.
If you wouldn't mind... I'm curious about the brakes. I checked out the fb page. Yes, you were right. Many more pictures. I'm still unclear about the brakes though - how does the cable come/go ? I love the look of the hidden wires and cables.
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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison] [ In reply to ]
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Hi Dan,
A question about interpreting your fit guide chart. The reach axis is labeled as to the center of the pads but the stack axis is not. However, in the labeled bike diagram also on your site it appears (to my eye anyway) that the stack portion goes from BB to the top of the pads. As a result I'm having some difficulty determining if any size of your bike fits me. What I got out of my recent FIST fit was this:

reach to center of pads (Pad x?) is 440mm
stack to top of pads (pad y?)is 680 mm

Thanks,
Chris
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Re: Premier Tactical [tobrien] [ In reply to ]
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I'm showing the bike in NJ at Delmo Sports Wildwood triathlon this weekend. I'll send you a PM when I get back and I can work with you on the fit.

Thank you for your interest.

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Dan Kennison

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Re: Premier Tactical [tobrien] [ In reply to ]
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The cable routes through the base bar and down through the stem. The front is routed behind the front fork. The rear cable is routed the same way and then down the down tube.

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Dan Kennison

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Re: Premier Tactical [tobrien] [ In reply to ]
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tobrien -

Hopefully Dan's reply helped provide an idea of the cable routing. I'll pull some covers tomorrow and grab you a few pictures of the brake setup and cable routing.

Also worth noting - I have been very pleased with the braking power. On par with, if not slightly more powerful than the Speed Concept, both setup fairly meticulously.

Jack Toland

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Re: Premier Tactical [JTolandTRI] [ In reply to ]
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My Premier Tactical
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Re: Premier Tactical [rhudson] [ In reply to ]
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Sorry having trouble posting picture, got as far as paper clip attachment but would not post.
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Re: Premier Tactical [rhudson] [ In reply to ]
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Re: Premier Tactical [rhudson] [ In reply to ]
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Nice stickers. I presume this is a training set-up, how are you arranging hydration and food for the big race?

'It never gets easier, you just get crazier.'
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Re: Premier Tactical [rhudson] [ In reply to ]
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rhudson wrote:

Kona stickers? I did not think the Premier Tactical existed last time there was a Kona race.
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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison] [ In reply to ]
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dkennison wrote:
Yes - two rear wheels will work as well. You could face the cassette toward the bike with the padding in between or put it on the single wheel side facing outward. If you chose the second option it would stick out a bit more but would fit. Just need to use one of your quick releases. (Your bike quick release is used to secure the rear mech guard on the frame).
Good to know!
2 Points:
1) Your video doesn't show pedal removal as a step, but clearly they are removed.
2) Are you not recommending removal of the RD?

dkennison wrote:
The inside max width is about 435 mm. The Tactical Base Bar width (out-side to outside with Ultegra DI2 Shifters is 419 mm.
IOW, cockpits that are 400 CC + Di2 shifters would fit?
What about max length: RD -> front edge of base bar shifters?
(I'm thinking of getting the case for my P3 with Tririg Alpha + Di2.)

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I had a request to see if there were any aftermarket J-Bend and Ski-bend type extensions that would work with the Tactical. In addition I had a request for a tilt option.

As a solution, I had produced a tilt spacer that will work with our current set-up.

Thinking it over I decided to make two addition extension bars that will work with the current set up, as well as with the tilt spacer, to give a wide range of hand positions. I have the spacer now and will open molds on the two additional extensions as soon as we can do some engineering work. These should all be available by August 1st.
These items are not listed on your website. Do you have any pictures?

dkennison wrote:
Our center pull brakes work and can be easily adjusted with an allen wrench while mounted in-place and covers on.
I've yet to see any good pictures of the front and rear brakes.
Do you have any to share?

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Re: Premier Tactical [helo guy] [ In reply to ]
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helo guy wrote:
rhudson wrote:


Kona stickers? I did not think the Premier Tactical existed last time there was a Kona race.


Pretty sure rhudson has been to kona, and as far as I know, there is no rule against putting stickers on your bike (even if said bike hasn't been to kona....).
Last edited by: SBRcanuck: Aug 29, 17 2:43
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Re: Premier Tactical [lllusion] [ In reply to ]
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No need to remove the RD. There is plenty of room and the bike is held in suspension with three straps. We do provide a RD protector with bike purchases in case someone wants to use a soft side case.

The Tactical fits with 42 C/C and DI-2 shifters with some room to spare. There is padding inside the area where the bar base sits. I have fit a P3 in the case with no issue.

I have fit 58 Cervelo R4 and P5 with plenty of room.

Pictures of the base bar with hardware for round tube extensions and well as the tilt kit for our standard extensions are on our Facebook page. Those items are schedule for production with the next shipment so we don't show them for sale on the website.

I have been having difficulty posting images here on this site - I have some on our Facebook.

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Dan Kennison

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http://www.PremierBike.com
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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison] [ In reply to ]
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dkennison wrote:
No need to remove the RD. There is plenty of room and the bike is held in suspension with three straps. We do provide a RD protector with bike purchases in case someone wants to use a soft side case.

The Tactical fits with 42 C/C and DI-2 shifters with some room to spare. There is padding inside the area where the bar base sits. I have fit a P3 in the case with no issue.

I have fit 58 Cervelo R4 and P5 with plenty of room.
Cool. Thanks.

dkennison wrote:
Pictures of the base bar with hardware for round tube extensions and well as the tilt kit for our standard extensions are on our Facebook page. Those items are schedule for production with the next shipment so we don't show them for sale on the website.

I have been having difficulty posting images here on this site - I have some on our Facebook.
I looked through all the FB pictures. (Note the link in my post to the one of the rear brake, with the cover.)
It would be nice to see front and rear brakes clearly, without cover(s).
Also, the only tilt images I see on @TRIPremierBike are design models.

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Re: Premier Tactical [lllusion] [ In reply to ]
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If you PM me your email address I can send you some images.

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Dan Kennison

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Re: Premier Tactical [SBRcanuck] [ In reply to ]
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That is my bike sorry I did not not get a chance to expand on the thread last night. I have been to Kona many times and I like my bikes personal. You will not see another Tactical like it. If you like it fine, if not, it is not your bike. I have 200 miles on the bike. Two rides in Michigan Ohio windy cornfields and one 35 mile 20 hill climb effort. Longest ride was 107 miles with 30 miles of chip seal. The bike handles perfect over all conditions. Two more rides are scheduled this week before packing it up and heading to Ironman Wisconsin. I have already told Dan the my thoughts on the bike and I will share with you. I own 3 other so called super bikes. Felt IA FRD, Dimond, and a Shiv S works. The Tactical is superior and at half the cost. The bike is so clean and stealth. No wires, brake cables exposed just one continuous flow to the rear of the bike. When I first saw the base bar I thought the extensions were to short but Dan did his homework. I climb out of the saddle and dance on the pedals for hills. This base bar is amazing, the best I have ridden climbing. Hands right next to the Di2 shifters with some support from the flat part of the base bar. Firing off shifts so easy and no wrist pain. After many hills my Felt hurts my wrists. The extensions, well you need to look at them. Dan must of had a ton of hours designing these bars. Not only do they curve up they curve in. I have 2-21/2 inch open at the end between the shifters, thumbs set perfect on the buttons. My BTA is totally enclosed. Arm pads, thought they were small when I first saw them at least compared to my other bikes. Again Dan did his homework. Plenty of support but what I really like is when I attack the corners out of the saddle the inside of my arms do not hit the pads. Pictures really do not tell the whole story. Look at the rear wheel. The tire is in cased in a fairing that actually comes out around the tire. There is no gap, you can not see daylight between the frame and the tire. Heck you can barely see the tire. On top of that that fairing goes down below the bottom bracket. You will not find another bike so well thought out. The draft box is a continuous line from the seat post to where it flairs in. The draft box has a co2, inflater head, tube and 2 levers. I can get another tube in. The trick is to unwind the tube and just lay it in there. 2015 I was in Hawaii and saw the canyon speedmax up close. Thought they nailed when it comes to Tri bikes and put it on my wish list ( not available in U.S. ). Then I saw the write up that Dan Empfield did on the Tactical. I looked at every thing I could find. Dan Kennison answered a lot of my questions but in the end just took chance on this bike. Hey the speedmax is good, theTactical is better at a much lower cost. Like I said I am racing Ironman Moo. If you are in Madison and want to see the bike up close and personal I will make it a point to be in front of the convention center by the expo at noon Saturday before racking bikes. This bike will impress you. Thank you Dan for building it.
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Re: Premier Tactical [rhudson] [ In reply to ]
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I think the sticker looks good on the bike, and you've earned it. :)
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Re: Premier Tactical [lllusion] [ In reply to ]
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Illusion -

I managed to grab a few pictures of the brakes this morning. I've set a reminder to grab a few more with the stem cover removed. Please excuse the dirt.


(Front brake, cover on, dirt not molding)


(Fork crown from front)


(Front brake cover attaches with magnets)


(Large pad adjustment range, rim width adjustment using screw above PremierBike logo)


(Torque spec on inside of front brake cover)


(Rear brake)


(Housing runs to brake)

*Note - Bike is upside down for pictures

(Pad and width adjustment screws, accessible with cover on)


(Rear brake fairing)


(Access with cover on)

Jack Toland

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Re: Premier Tactical [JTolandTRI] [ In reply to ]
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I am with you these rim brakes are best I have ridden. Plenty of stopping power easy to work on
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Re: Premier Tactical [JTolandTRI] [ In reply to ]
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The brakes look a lot like the TriRig brakes?????


AERO & LIGHT is RIGHT

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Re: Premier Tactical [BMANX] [ In reply to ]
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Yes - very similar. Its a good design. We tried to fit a number of brakes but could not get them to fit.

We made a few adjustments to extend the pad adjustment range, the overall height (primarily for the front brake) and attachment position. My first choice was Magura - I was really trying to get them to work but they were just too tall to ever work on the front. TRP had some good choices but none with a center pull that would fit.

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Re: Premier Tactical [rhudson] [ In reply to ]
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Beautiful Bike! I'll be photographing the IMWI event and would love to get some shots of your bike and you. If you need anything, I live here so would be happy to help out if you need anything.

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Re: Premier Tactical [ggeiger] [ In reply to ]
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Thank you. I have to be in New York but there should be three or four Tactical's at Madison.

Trying to upload some images of the tilt and round option extension tubes but not having any luck.

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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison] [ In reply to ]
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Tilt and round extension photos below:











Jack Toland

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Re: Premier Tactical [rhudson] [ In reply to ]
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Russell - Great looking additions!

Would you mind posting a few photos of your Flare-R mount attachment?

Jack Toland

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