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Re: Premier Tactical [BMANX] [ In reply to ]
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BMANX wrote:
OK I have to admit that bike is sexy.

And you are seeing it without aero wheels and the typical proper crank position ;)


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Re: Premier Tactical [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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I know right. It is just clean and simplistic looking. I know that in design it is not but well done for sure.


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Re: Premier Tactical [krikiker] [ In reply to ]
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This picture is a reminder to me that I think wheel size makes as much a difference in the overall aesthetic appeal of a bike as a frame....get some deeper wheels on there and then take more pics!!
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Re: Premier Tactical [DFW_Tri] [ In reply to ]
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That blue and lettering doesn't look bad either.

I was really worried about how it would look after the images posted earlier
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Re: Premier Tactical [DFW_Tri] [ In reply to ]
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:) I agree as well.
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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison] [ In reply to ]
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I know you said you don't have any plans for an XL frame but my measurements don't quite "stack" up to your fit guide. To quote Dan, "We could accommodate your fit on the large by adding 1 additional 10mm spacer under the extensions. We would then use a BTA mount to add stabilize to the extensions system."

Would love to see what adding extensions and BTA mount looks like and how this affects the overall "system". Anyone have any pictures of their tactical in the wild using extra extensions to go above the stack guide on their website?
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Re: Premier Tactical [ChevyTri27] [ In reply to ]
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We have not had anyone that has purchased a bike need to do that yet.

We have one individual that is 6'4 that fits on a large but he has a lot of drop.

When I get some time I will put one together and take some pictures.

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Re: Premier Tactical [krikiker] [ In reply to ]
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I don't know why I haven't noticed this. But you didn't drop the downtube to the wheel. Seems like everyone has come to the conclusion that this is faster. The aero bike shootout says your design is just as good. Any thoughts on the dropped down tube?
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Re: Premier Tactical [BMANX] [ In reply to ]
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BMANX wrote:
I know right. It is just clean and simplistic looking. I know that in design it is not but well done for sure.

+1
I love the clean lines on this.

Semi related...Dan I saw 10 speed chains on the website now. Are they ready to ship now? I was thinking of getting one for IM CDA which is just a little over two weeks out but wanted to make sure it'd get here in time to get a practice ride or two before pulling the trigger on it. Thanks.

Matt
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Re: Premier Tactical [Pun_Times] [ In reply to ]
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We have 25 ea 10 speed chains just starting production now. They will be ready to ship out late next week.

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Re: Premier Tactical [Nazgul350r] [ In reply to ]
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I did not do any CFD testing on the other bikes so I'm not sure how the wheel and downtube interact when they are close. We did do some physical bike wind tunnel testing up front to set some bench marks.

I had target numbers we were looking for in CFD on the front end - when the original design with a few tweeks kept getting closer to what we wanted - we just kept going in that direction. Most of that work on the Tactical was with the bar, stem, fork and how they worked together.

I wish I could see numbers on the P5X. The shoot out just goes to show there are many ways to get to low numbers. Really interesting

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Last edited by: dkennison: Aug 11, 17 14:49
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Re: Premier Tactical [DFW_Tri] [ In reply to ]
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Here you go, hopefully this one is a little better. It's a little off center but hopefully it works:)



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Re: Premier Tactical [krikiker] [ In reply to ]
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Verrrrry nice.....
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Re: Premier Tactical [krikiker] [ In reply to ]
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Love it but not sure about the placement of the bento and how the wind hits it.


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Last edited by: BMANX: Aug 11, 17 18:51
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Re: Premier Tactical [BMANX] [ In reply to ]
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The gentleman from Dark Speed Works came by a few weeks ago and mounted several of his bento box products. They all fit well and are shielded well when you install a BTA or Profile design type hydration. Without the BTA type hydration it would kind of ruin the nice clean flow. You can store your tools and tubes in the rear storage but for long course the bento would be nice for gels etc..

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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison] [ In reply to ]
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Fully agree and would love to know what you would suggest for bta and will you develop your own system?


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Re: Premier Tactical [BMANX] [ In reply to ]
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I had developed a great aero hydration/computer mount system a while back. The mold cost was 45K so I decided to wait. We then tested most of the products on the market. The Profile Design FC35 was the fastest in its low position. Then PD changed the velcro attachment straps to fixed hard plastic and that made the system not work well (thats why I took that product off the website), the next fastest system is a simple BTA like Xlab which also has the computer mount and velcro straps that attach to the extension tubes. Those straps and that system also makes the whole front end nice and secure if you use a lot of spacers.

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Re: Premier Tactical [krikiker] [ In reply to ]
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That bike looks very fast and very good.
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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison] [ In reply to ]
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That bike is SUPER slick! Jumps to the top of my list when I get a new bike. But does that ever happen when a baby is expected in a few months?! Baby doesn't need diapers right?

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Re: Premier Tactical [turdburgler] [ In reply to ]
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Just received my fed ex notification that the bike is shipping on Monday. What caught my eye was the shipping weight 45 pounds (Dan said it is 47) . That is bike, case, 3 wheels and all the parts. My current bag, bike with just 2 wheels I fight to keep under 50 pounds so I do not get hit with over weight fees when I fly. Don't have the bike yet and already won!
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Re: Premier Tactical [rhudson] [ In reply to ]
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Thought the graphics were changing. Or is that on the next round of bikes.
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Re: Premier Tactical [krikiker] [ In reply to ]
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Very nice looking. Reminds me of a Shiv TT but with a rear storage box.

So what is the general consensus these days about achieving proper stack height? Is it best to have the base bar at its lowest position and achieve all the height with spacers under the extensions?
I thought unless you had a huge amount of spacers, it was better to have the base bar higher and very few spacers under the extensions? I believe this is what Superdave (formerly of felt...) was saying..
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Re: Premier Tactical [SBRcanuck] [ In reply to ]
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 It is slammed stem with spacer for arm pads.
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Re: Premier Tactical [mattr] [ In reply to ]
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On our next large shipment we will have a white, red and blue decal version (on black carbon bike) with slight change on the downtube graphic. Still very limited graphic. All blacked out decals on the wheels.

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Re: Premier Tactical [krikiker] [ In reply to ]
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Wow...that looks so good
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