Twinkie wrote:
Toban wrote:
Some of the content of this thread is very disturbing.
Hands off without consent. Not a hard lesson to learn. It is never acceptable. Anywhere on any occasion. By any gender. At any age. We’ve known this for quite some time. I am glad that the majority responding see that. The “bros will be bros” and “it’s harmless, just having a bit of fun” have long been debunked. No additional context is needed to know this is not acceptable behavior. The appropriate punishment will be determined by the justice system and his peers (those in his life) and his victim — not us.
Sporting coaches, group exercise class instructors (eg yoga), etc... are being taught to ask permission before using their hands to correct positions.
The take away lesson: No touching anyone without consent.
Take away: I will fight this movement. Ladies, if you want to slap my ass, go for it. If you are 18, 25, 39, 41, 68, hell 102..ugly, fat, hot, skinny, short, tall, white, black, yellow, purple, gay, straight. GO FOR IT. Hell, in good sport - guys, you feel like giving me a smack on the ass when I am racing, a little boost - Go for it! It wont get me going and Ill continue to sleep with my lady - but if it makes you smile and its in good fun - you firmly plant your hand on my cheek and smile about it. I will smile back and say "hell ya". I will even do a little hip gyration dance to anyone who in good sport and lovingly slaps the rear.
the above is called "not taking life to seriously"
That's your prerogative and it's healthy for you to respond in that manner. I happen to feel the exact same way, insofar as it concerns slapping my ass. But you have to understand that we can't impose our sense of comfort onto other people, who have had very different experiences in life. Women have very different experiences, professionally, growing up and on a daily basis than men do. And these differences affect how we interpret other peoples' behavior toward us. But even if there was no sociological component involved, it's still unreasonable to suggest what another individual should or shouldn't be offended by.
Would you be okay with another guy grabbing your crotch? What about rubbing his crotch on you when you bend over to tie your shoe? What if another guy grabbed your wife/daughter/sister/mother's butt or breasts? Regardless of whether the offender of those behaviors is cool with it happening to him, the rest of us agree that there are clear violations including objectification, overt sexualization and assault.
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