I think Amstel and Constantine are GA based. Maybe they have some insight.

See: Lauren Boebert

It is a clown parade.

Her and the other wacko freshman congresswoman from Colorado are I’m sure a pleasure to deal with.

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Yes, I was chatting with jmh and we agreed she's part of the QAnon Squad...I think MTG is probably the most unhinged wombat in Congress.
It blows my mind that a district thought she would be a good representative for them.

Same question re: this rocket surgeon:

Our district elected Kat Cammack (sigh)...I still think we're better off than these districts in CO and GA.

I’m sure Amstel just loves her accomplishments.

You have to understand that north GA. is extreme Trump/Q/ insert crazy conspiracy of your choice country. She fits right in.

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Colorado wacko said “bullcrap” in her Impeachment minute. And GA girl looks like some burly Russian chick. She once owned CrossFit gym.

Okay - I don’t agree with her politics- but she is textbook American Dream IMO.

She didn’t like what the government was doing. She actually researched what it takes to run for office and went back and got her GED and won a National election.

That’s pretty badass IMO.

Now I have no idea what the electors were thinking voting for her. But as a feminist- I think her path is pretty bad ass.

I hope others see her example and give it a go!

Georgia Rep. Greene says she plans to file articles of impeachment against Biden


https://fox8.com/...hment-against-biden/

Yes. She has been posting this on twitter a bunch already.

We live in the dumbest of times.

I don't know where this current version of the "Republican Party" is headed, but I miss the one I knew.

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Never forget the Battle of Chickamauga. She is NW GA. IM Chatt is ridden on her roads. Carpet capital of the world. Toughest mtb race in GA. Lots of good. Lots of crazy. Very few Democrats.

At the risk of sounding like an elitist, this should have been the first thing that disqualified her since that was the end of her education.

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TimeIsUp wrote:

Never forget the Battle of Chickamauga. She is NW GA. IM Chatt is ridden on her roads. Carpet capital of the world. Toughest mtb race in GA. Lots of good. Lots of crazy. Very few Democrats.

This. All republican.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/GA/14

She is NW ga. and cray cray she doesn’t realize the Trump train is off the rails and OOC,she counter balances AOC.
I’m in NE Ga. Doug Collins district , he screwed up the Senate seat.
But life is good up here mountain/ gravel biking , fishing , hiking.

Side arm Hot👍🏼

I sure agree with mountains, and gravel riding. Wish we had something that looked like elevation in Florida.

The Snake MTB race ? Never did it know guys who have it is usually shitty cold weather.
In my backyard we have Fools Gold and Southern Cross Gravel, Lance and couple of his cronies where here about 5 yrs ago for the Gravel race.
I’m signed up and ready to go.o

...sigh...I give up.

Yeah she played by the rules to get in, but once in she doesn't want to play by the rules.

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Please, do tell? In what way does she counter balance AOC?

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I assumed he was talking about TNGA.

Let me be the next person to pile on you for this but AOC is nowhere near as far left as MTG is far right. Not even remotely close to "counter balancing." MTG is a 10 pound weight and AOC is a five pound weight on the seesaw. They don't balance.

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I mean if anyone who voted for her didn’t see that coming from her prior record they should have their eyes examined.

They elected her. It was pretty obvious who she was. It’s not like she misrepresented herself in any way. Nobody had a reason to believe she was going to update to Anne Taylor hill wardrobe when she showed up and mind her manners.

She ran on who she was and that’s what the voters wanted. Your beef should be with the voters if you have one- not her IMO.

For the 12th time perhaps now............there is NOT a balance when one is where you disagree with actual policy and the other is conspiracy theory bullshit.

Zero equivalence. ZERO.

You might as well tell us Obama's policies made you angry enough to attempt the most impotent coup in history.

Z.....e.....r......o.

You can't balance European socialism with conspiracy theories.

I agree she represents her constituents as from what I have read they are very big 2A voters. That is fine and expected. What I am complaining about is not her politics it is that she doesn't follow the rules. I don't walk into her bar and complain that people are open carrying, that is allowed. Just like she shouldn't take a gun onto the House floor since it isn't allowed. Another "rules are good if I agree with them" type IMO and a grandstander.

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For what???

She spells as well as the President.

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I've said that before, but yes...there is no one in the US that would be considered a "leftist" in Europe. Not Bernie, not AOC. No one.

I guess he could have been talking about dumb/smart balance.

Oh man is she something wrong.

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Your post comes off as a desperate attempt to deflect from the fact that the current version of the GOP is filled with unhinged wackos.

I am not a fan of AOC but the policies she advocates for are the norm in most of western Europe. This crazy lady from Georgia just spews lies and conspiracy theories.

The key is, she advocates actual policies. Things you can disagree with or call goofily impractical, and many of them I do. How do you disagree with Q conspiracies? What do I have to do to counter Democrats are pedophiles eating babies? What points will win the day?

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I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.

Just saw a chart where AOC, who is absolutely killing it and knows exactly how the game is played by the way, is a centrist. and it checks out.

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“You are experiencing the criminal coverup of a foreign backed fascist hostile takeover of a mafia shakedown of an authoritarian religious slow motion coup. Persuade people to vote for Democracy.”

Exactly.

The only policies of the GOP are triggering the libs, conspiracy theories, and blind loyalty to Trump

According to govtrack.us, Barbara Lee is the most liberal (or least conservative) representative. Mark Meadows is the most conservative.
Kurt Schrader (D-OR) and Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) are the median. But the average is Cynthia Axne (D-ID), who is the 201st most conservative rep, but according to govtrack she sponsors bills and resolutions that are halfway between Meadows and Lee.

Cortez is 421. Tlaib is 428. Omar is 429. Pressley is 433rd. My personal rep, McGovern, is 418th.

Their scale for Senators ranges from Blackburn the most conservatives to the VP. Kamala is more liberal in bills sponsored than Bernie. Markey is also more liberal than Warren.
Murkowski is the average, but 56th most conservative, while Doug Jones was the median.

Can a fair weather mountain biker really call themselves a mountain biker? I’ve done it where my camelback hose is frozen by the top of the first climb and also wearing the lightest thing I can find. Done it where I had to replace nearly every pivot point after the race. First weekends in Jan/Feb/Mar is always a crapshoot. Also done Fool’s Gold several times and those trails are relatively tame imo. Was a bit behind a guy who dislocated his hip coming down Bull. Pretty sure that caused Eddie to give up the race and Lisa took it over. Pure gravel grinding isn’t my thing. They are the conduit to get between single track trails. GL at Cross!

She's gonna have a hard time getting that out of committee.

Or rather a hard time getting that assigned *to* a committee.

I envision Pelosi giving her a big, fake plastic shit-eating "smile" and pointing where Rep. Greene can leave the bill for her to "review."

Do you need a GED if you have not finished high school to run for office? Just curious

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she counter balances AOC.

Your post comes off as a desperate attempt to deflect from the fact that the current version of the GOP is filled with unhinged wackos.


You must be new around here.

Not to my knowledge. I thought is was 25 years old, be a citizen for at least 7 years and reside in the state you wish to represent.

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Best up your game. Equivalencies: both female, both somewhat youngish, both can summon up a camera and microphone without too much effort. Good on you to throw in craycray at least. Do folks in NE and N central Georgia look to this NW corner as Deliverance mountain rural Appalachia and she as is good as it gets?

Sure the hell not me!
I'm 2 counties north of Jacksonville, Fl, so I'm physically about as far away from her district as I can be.
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Not necessary for the ride, we might see a bear and coyote but they don’t mess with riders.

Do you have wild boar? Those look scary.

My game is as good as it gets, I don’t have the keyboard skills as most of the LR kids.
My opinion NW ga up along I -75 Rome & Dalton and butts up to Chattanooga is a little different than NE ga., don’t really know why.
NE Ga is a little more connected to the lower southern end of Appalachia.
With the poorer folks there is a fair amount high end lake & Mtn communities.

I did BRAG one year w the wife unit and we started from the Chickamauga Battlefield National Park. That year we rode across the top of GA and then down the east side (thru Athens) to Savannah.

I ride my moto up in N GA to go throw flies at trouts---and just to ride those mountain roads.

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Yes we do , on the MTB trails haven’t seen any they seem to closer to farms?
On hikes I seen signs of them , that’s why I carry.

I live in her (Bobberts) district and I can’t believe she won either. It’s mind boggling.

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Now Boebert's back onto the migrant caravan:


https://twitter.com/.../1350565363520573440


Word on Twitter is that her mother was present for the tour on the 5th and was involved in the insurrection...no link provided as it is just a rumor at this point...

I’ve seen more bears (1), wild boar (2), and coyotes (a lot) in my yard than I have ever seen on the NoGA trails, thankfully. Recently we’ve had multiple sightings of a bobcat. Maybe I should stop feeding them. I did see the largest rattlesnake I’ve ever seen in my life during Fool’s Gold one year. Just passed through the Bull parking lot back into the single track on top of the hill and the rider in front of me slammed on his brakes. A super fat 3-4 footer stretched across the trail, but since I don’t like snakes I remember it being more like 10ft. Fried nerves the rest of the day.

i read a quote explaining her win..’ if you see who lives in her district you’d understand’
:)

Having spent enough time in southern Appalachia and the Rockies to see it firsthand, I can say without a doubt the more ardent rednecks live in Colorado.

So Marjorie just landed herself a 12h stint in Twitter jail for tweeting election misinformation.

Sasse wrote an op-ed in which he said Greene is cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs.

In The Atlantic, of all publications...

Shouldn’t the republicans be giving Sasse mad props for being plain spoken and just telling it like it is?

Francois wrote:

Who the F elected that wombat?

Why do you so unjustly disparage wombats?

Everyone loves wombats!

Fair. But it’s also a commonly used insult in Australia.

I hear you on the wombat topic. Your defense of snakes in the other thread, though...

Wombats, snakes, spiders, cockroaches all perform valuable roles in the ecosystem.

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While there's an interesting discussion to be had on that point (I actually agree with you in general, though), I'd still contend that there's not much that's loveable about snakes. Personally, I'm with Indiana Jones as far as that is concerned :-)

Francois wrote:

Fair. But it’s also a commonly used insult in Australia.

I'll just counter that with another wombat clip. (Of which, one can never watch too many! :-) )

There's two types of people in the world.

Those who love snakes, and those who are yet to spend enough time with them. ;-)

Ok then. Let’s call her a yobbo instead then.

Is yobbo non-Scottish for jobbie?

it's aussie for idiot

I gotta agree, snakes are pretty cool.

Maybe not as great as kittens, but still pretty good.

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Marjorie Taylor Greene indicated support for executing prominent Democrats

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Republican Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene repeatedly indicated support for executing prominent Democratic politicians in 2018 and 2019 before being elected to Congress, a CNN KFile review of hundreds of posts and comments from Greene's Facebook page shows.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/26/politics/marjorie-taylor-greene-democrats-violence/index.html

It’s mind boggling that she’s still a congress member.

It is a serious problem with the Republican party that they have not kicked her out yet.

Here she is responding positively to someone claiming that Hillary Clinton filleting a child's face. A child's face.




Not to mention her believing the shooting at Stoneman Douglas was a false flag. Fucking kids were murdered and she thinks that he parents are lying about their children being murdered.

Sorry, late to the conversation, and this has nothing to do with anything, but I get a chuckle out of the fact that my Aunt's (My mother's only sister) name is Marjorie Green.

Sadly she no longer with us to tease about it.

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Hey, she’s just honestly speaking on behalf of her constituents! Why do you hate representative democracy?

What’s the problem? She’s just asking questions. Not saying it’s true, just putting it out there so people can mAke their own decisions.

Here she is harassing the survivor of a school shooting asking why he is not pushing for more guns in schools. She is asking why he supports red flag laws.

She also thinks Hog is a crisis actor and that Parkland and Sandy Hook were false flag operations.

We are supposed to listen and seek unity with this?

Stop being so divisive. You should sit down and have a beer with her.

She is disgusting.

I watched that video for the first time this morning. It’s so appalling that she’s walking 10 feet behind him relentlessly making her insane claims and demanding answers from this high school kid who survived a mass shooting in his school. Her conduct is horrible. Her words are horrible. Her lack of decency is just outrageous.

It’s even crazier that she filmed the encounter herself and turns up the camera to speak to the audience. She’s not ashamed of herself. This is normal behavior in her world.

I'd take it one step further. She is not only not ashamed, she is proud of herself. She is a absolute piece of filth. But really, I'm sure if I just sat down and listened to her opinions it would all be fine.

I respectfully disagree. I hope no one is inspired by Lauren Boebert.

I think it’s unfortunate that she got pregnant in high school and dropped out. I wouldn’t wish that on anyone. Her recovery from that setback isn’t particularly awesome. Getting a GED is nice, but she didn’t reach for the stars and get a 2-year or 4-year college degree. She missed out on the joy of learning and the satisfaction that comes from attaining a higher education. She doesn’t know how empowering it is to be fully educated or trained.

Katie Porter is a single mother of three, lawyer and member of Congress. She has her shit together. As a feminist, I’m super impressed with her.

Lauren Boebert has a history of multiple violations of the law. I think I read somewhere that her dad is a lawyer, so perhaps he helped her avoid any serious repercussions for her legal troubles.

I think it’s crazy that Boebert is in Congress ostensibly writing laws when she clearly cannot comply with the law and apparently doesn’t understand that laws protect the safety and welfare of all citizens. That might explain why she thinks it’s appropriate to bring her gun into the Capitol in violation of the law.

I’ve read that her restaurant served bad food and gave 80 people diarrhea. It’s not surprising that she doesn’t understand food safety and health code requirements. The chick just doesn’t know a lot.

The American Dream is starting with little and working hard to achieve goals. It’s being rewarded for hard work.

Boebert is an example of the Entitlement Dream. She’s unqualified but she’s blind to it. She doesn’t set a good example for anyone, much less young girls.

So normal she just got named to the House education committee.

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Marjorie Taylor Greene tried to force Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib to retake their oaths on a Bible in a resurfaced video
In the footage, Ms Greene claimed it was the ‘law’ for the representatives to use a Bible when taking their oaths
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/marjorie-taylor-greene-omar-tlaib-bible-b1793806.html

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There has never been a law in United States history that requires an elected official of the country to take the oath of office with a Bible or any other religious text. The United States Constitution actually states "no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.” Why does the Constitution specifically say this? The Framers of the Constitution valued the separation of church versus state.

This is why I continue to claim that it isn't just some cute little group of 1 in 10000 folks who think like this. It takes a lot more than that to route a person to being a representative, win an election, and continue their rise. You vet people. You make sure there are things that don't make them unelectable. Not only did enough people go "ahhh screw it" with that, enough people also voted and said "ahh fuck it", and now enough people everywhere at all levels are still going "ahh screw it".

You can't justify that it's "just a few in the GOP" when we keep seeing this over and over and over and over. School shooting deniers, Qanon, election fakers, folks pushing rapist parental rights. You connect all the dots on all those separate items to how much energy it takes to elect a national level representative..............................it encompasses a LOT more than "just a few in the GOP".

The adults used to run the GOP and kept this shit more in the closet and out of mainstream politics and representation. Somebody these days isn't just asleep at the wheel, they're gleefully high on meth and plowing forward. I literally pray that somebody at some point finally throws the stop sticks in the road and puts an end to the crazy train.

The crazy part is she keeps yapping about guards with guns and what not - and Parkland fucking had one! I guess that they should have supplied him with a couple of fully automatics. As a gun owner (and a father of a junior in HS), I am deeply offended by her behavior.

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I think she is just modeling her behavior after Trump's since it worked for him. I think we're going to see even more legislators acting like that - either because it is their true nature that they no longer need to hide, or because it is effective.

https://www.cnn.com/...can-party/index.html

I'm afraid you're right...this crap may become the norm, sooner rather than later.

Look at all the young Republican candidates, they are like Marjorie. That is where the next generation of GOP politicians are coming from. That is the future of the party.

I don't know if it is more accurate to say they are modeling themselves on trump or if trump himself was the model they created. What I mean is that trump is not an aberration or totally unique. He is the platonic ideal of a Republican candidate. He was the direction they were going anyway, the template was already there. So are they modeling themselves on trump or the template that already existed? Of course trump's success showed the template worked as a president, but the tea party had already showed that the template worked in other races.

She is both an idiot and batshit crazy. She believes in the most ridiculous conspiracy theories & unhinged internet rumors. There is debate about this.

What is most troubling is that the GOP is tolerating her. By not ejecting her, let alone censuring her, the GOP leadership is effectively saying, "Yup, this woman represents us and holds a valid viewpoint."

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The wife usually doesn't make strong statements about this stuff, despite having strong feelings about it.

The other day I questioned the mental state of a lot of these folks these days. Qanon, believing the election is fake, etc...... Not Republicans, not even necessarily Trump voters. Just the whole "believe and spread bullshit because you want to live in an alternate reality". She basically said "Don't you dare let those people off with the presumption they have a mental illness. That's a cop-out. We're just afraid of confronting the reality of the true character of many of these people."

She's right. We would always growing up label folks "a bit crazy". Like my grandmother, the super vocal racist. "She's just a bit crazy". The reality was we were too afraid or lazy to confront their character.

Given some of the recent trends in violent protest and rhetoric, I can't believe any longer it's "too afraid". It's boiling down to "too lazy".

And the separation by Covid has allowed a really rapid festering of it.

So, where do we start? It's an education question, it's a communication question too. But (and I know that isn't a popular idea) do we need to rethink what freedom of speech means in a world where all ideas, even the craziest that endanger others can be disseminated to easily, so fast, etc? How do we stop QAnon?

I know some here will jump on me for writing this comment above, but 20 years after a failed attempt to take down a plane with explosive in shoes, we are still removing our shoes...This QAnon stuff is far more dangerous.

When we break bread with family we start breaking a few eggs and beating them so we get to the omelets. I think too long we've kept out mouths politely shut. You can't make omelets without first breaking the eggs, beating them, and using some fire on them in a pan.

If you've got the racist or conspiracy theorist in the family, it's time. I'm not talking on the internet, I'm talking at Easter lunch. Or Thanksgiving, whatever.

Don't leave friendships or relationships or family with an "Irish goodbye". It's time to make it apparent you're leaving the party because of poor character.

Also, if people are totally unappologetic..........I think cancel culture needs to catch fire and burn with the intensity of a smelter. I get the negative consequences of that, there will be innocent victims along the way. But acting/living like a lot of these people do without consequences has to stop. In the US the most immediate ways to get people's attention is their wallets. Turn off the spigot at their businesses or work.

At first I was a bit appalled at some of the cancel culture, as a lot of unfortunate victims of it were mostly highlighted. I'm starting to change my mind. At least give it a college try to get it right first, and give the chance of redemption. But in the case of people like Marjorie.........too late.

Marjorie Taylor Greene promoted a conspiracy theory that a space laser beam -- possibly fired by "Rothschild Inc" -- was used to intentionally start the deadly 2018 Camp Fire in California
https://www.mediamatters.org/facebook/marjorie-taylor-greene-penned-conspiracy-theory-laser-beam-space-started-deadly-2018


Remember when the Republicans tried to cast the entire Democratic Party as anti-Semitic over Ilhan Omar’s comments that were critical of Israel? Crickets from the Republicans now on Greene’s crazy beliefs.

Spineless cowards still scared of the Donald. They can all go to hell for all I care.

Well, that criticism was clearly not in good faith.

I gotta admit, "Jewish Space Laser" was a new one for me.

Hard to pick the craziest thing she has said. Parkland/Sandy Hook false Flag, Jewish Space Laser, 9/11 was an inside job, or this?


The Las Vegas Shooting was done by Anti-Gun activists.


https://www.newsweek.com/marjorie-taylor-greene-claims-las-vegas-shooting-was-plotted-anti-gun-lobbyists-resurfaced-video-1564955


The amount of crazy she spews is endless. Silence from the GOP.

I feel like you guys may have completely forgotten about Hillary’s emails.

CNN interviewed some of her supporters and they are still all in. I don't know how representative these people are of the district, but I found it quite disturbing.

Nothing beats the lasers.

I know the Jewish laser seems improbable, but I’ve tracked down Marjorie’s evidence and it’s compelling:

Don’t confine to her district. There are 74 million of these dumarses we know of.

Not surprised at all.

It is not just her supporters that believe this nonsense. 71% of Republicans believe there is a Deep State that worked against Trump. The "It's the Jews!" stuff is rampant.

I am still waiting for my Soros check.

I'm confused. I thought the earth was flat? How can there be space lasers if there is no such thing as space?

I just watched this again last week.

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According to Rep Greene the Jews think of ways around everything.

I feel like I am in a unique position to comment on this topic. I am Jewish (at least culturally, not religiously). I am also an orbital systems engineer who has helped design a number of space craft that actually do have lasers on them.

I WISH we could do the things she suggested we are doing (well, the transferring solar power part). Sadly it is in the realm of science fiction. It's GOOD science fiction though! But fiction nonetheless.

As for starting a fire to clear land for a railroad... why on earth would we try to route a railroad through mountains when there is plenty of flat terrain available?

Love that movie. Thanks for the reminder to go back and re-watch it.

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It's a C minus world.

That's exactly what we would expect someone in on the conspiracy to say.

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Happy to help. And from now on, stop playing with yourself!

Be careful, your house is going to get space-zapped.

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Marjorie Taylor Greene Making Americans Nostalgic for Wisdom of Sarah Palin


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Here’s this guy again. He’s had several good videos. His opinion on Marge Greene. https://twitter.com/...191252082454528?s=10

I feel the railroad part of this story has been very underreported.

Can I give you my address so the next time you guys do your zapping you make sure to miss my place?

The fact that she is an idiot congressman / congresswoman is not all that newsworthy, except for maybe the extreme stupidity and gullibility she has.

What is truly newsworthy is that her party, the GOP, has stayed silent on her behaviors and statements and not strongly condemned them, thus, de facto, supporting her. Its insane.

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But Chip Roy thought it was warranted to send a letter to ask AOC to apologize to Ted Cruz for not being nice to him.

What the fuck GOP? What the fuck?

For a few days there we thought they might work to actively excise the truly crazy.

But nope, we're right back at it.

McCarthy, McConnell - this is the play? Pretend like it's business as usual and nothing happened?

I think you’re right. Your post reminded me of a Trump statement in January 2016 in which he dismissed blame for violence at his campaign rallies. He said, “Don’t blame me, I’m just the messenger.” So yeah, he’s the hero a then-latent movement was seeking.

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It is only a matter of time before the rename it the GQP

Maybe it's just that now that it's not a thing anymore to make up crazy stuff about black people's DNA or brain sizes or makeup shit up about aids and gays that this is just that kind of crap for our place in time. To an extent, it has always been something. Even before the internet, the internet just makes it worse.

I found this documentary on Jewish Lasers. Maybe Rep. Greene is on to something here.

Wow, I just read that she has raised over $1.6 Million from the GQP cult.

She isn't going anywhere. She is the future of the party.

Green is also part of the "Jews will not replace us" gang that Trump speaks so highly of.
https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/marjorie-taylor-greene-shared-antisemitic-and-islamophobic-video-640093

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An unholy alliance of leftists, capitalists and Zionist supremacists has schemed to promote immigration and miscegenation, with the deliberate aim of breeding us out of existence in our own homelands

Why so divisive? Those people just have different opinions. And, according to jharris we really need to just listen to them.

Well of course she is. Oh and where are our Trump supporters condemning her on this forum?

They’re a little busy right now.

jharris also says people Greene do not exist.

I am beginning to think jharris has no idea what he is talking about

jharris was sharing his personal experience in WI where those evil Antifa & BLM'ers damn near burned the town down while the rest of y'all are trying to push facts. No wonder there's no unity.


People believe that facts are essential for earning the respect of political adversaries, but our research shows that this belief is wrong. We find that sharing personal experiences about a political issue—especially experiences involving harm—help to foster respect via increased perceptions of rationality.

https://www.pnas.org/...uw-PrNXP1tXGBdTKHorM

Anybody remember when they ran Al Franken out of Congress because of some old joke photos?

I do remember that, but that was the Dems. The GOP just pretends the crazies do not exist and continue on as if nothing is happening.

One of the few who have spoked up is Mitt Romney. Greene bragged this morning about talking to Trump on the phone and having his support. Romney's response

“Lies of a feather flock together: Marjorie Taylor Greene’s nonsense and the ‘big lie’ of a stolen election.”


jharris wants us to listen and learn from people who are too cowardly to expel this anti-Semitic nut.

Both parties are the same. The gop also understands unity is important. Why can’t the Dems see that. - pink.

It should be know that different members associated with the riots inside the capitol have been elevated within the gop.

The gop has done nothing to attempt to unify the country in around 12 years. (Since McCain)

Republicans are either terrible or cowards.



Do Republicans possibly question why the crazy people vote for them?

Would a tin foil hat be an effective barrier?

Yes, but it would have to be a tin foil yarmulke.

We live in the dumbest fucking timeline.

Has GOP put him on an education committee yet?

What do you expect when you elect a person to Congress whose only qualifications in life were being a dumb jock or coaching dumb jocks?

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Do you think Alabama embarrassed by him?

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So, he still gets his news from the town crier? What a dipshit.

. https://www.tiktok.com/...=6893862918947210758

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Only the ones who went to Bama

There is a pretty good chance that by tomorrow Marjorie well get a talking-to but maintain her committee position but Liz Cheney will be removed from her position for voting to impeach. This is today's Republican Party.

Some House GOP also trying to remove Omar from committees. Not because she's done or said anything "wrong" recently, just as punishment for the Democrats trying to remove Marjorie...both sides, etc.

I read an article about that. That is all sorts of messed up. The GOP can't afford to alienate any voters (except for rioting non-voters) but they are doing their best. They may lose my vote for all R candidates if this is the path that they chose.

They are working through some issues these days. My party affiliation separation agreement remains solid until the loonies and white supremacists be gone.

The only saving grace is that Tupperware coached at Auburn, that Junior College close to Georgia, Nick would never say stupid shit like this.

Ask the Coke bottle? It’s smarter than Tommy.

FTFY

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One nice thing about my state is that as an independent I can actually vote in either (but not both) primary elections. As of last month, I left the “r” party and registered as an independent. I plan to still vote for the best, most sane, least Q-anon affiliated republican candidate, but will not feel bad at all voting democrat in the future if the republicans continue down their current path.

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My wife was just complaining how much she disliked Greene. I actually am very glad she is there. Now the GOP has to address the giant steaming pile in the middle of the carpet. If she wasn't there most of them would just step around the mess and pretend the Q debacle had nothing to do with their voters.

It is their only way to move forward and this helps speed that along. Of course, they may be out of office for awhile but it has to be done.

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After their private House repub meetings, many in caucus gave her standing ovation. And they secretly voted to keep Cheney in leadership. Have these folks no shame? Only some Senate leaders showing much spine on this issue.

McCarthy’s lack of a spine now puts the onus on the Dems to strip Greene of her Committee assignments. So the Republicans will then blame the Democrats for trying to shut her up instead of cleaning up their own mess. Not sure if that’s brilliant or stupid.

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Dems should bring Al Franken back.

I've had a similar thoughts on the long term intelligence of the no spine strategy that has defined the GQP since 2016.

I'm not sure how being a moral coward or failing to exclude kooks from the caucus is good for the party, but McCarthy (Q- CA) seems to think that is his best play.

I think he and the rest of the GQP have lost their collective minds, in addition to their spines. But these seeds were sown years ago and any voter paying attention left the party.

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MTG really does not like the Jews


https://forward.com/news/463515/every-antisemitic-thing-marjorie-taylor-greene-has-said-and-done-so-far/


This is who the GOP gave a standing ovation to yesterday.

In her defense, they are ARE shooting space lasers at forests. <facepalm>

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McCarthy is brilliant? stupid? or without spine? The fact that he came to the rescue of Cheney while allowing the Georgia Peach a pass puts him in the at least "he's not stupid" class as he tries to walk the line with the GOP to his left and your christened GQP to his right. Without question, he is without spine. But there is no way to assign brilliance to him either. He is merely a politician who understands he is in a party where quite a few his voters are in fact not paying attention.

That blew me away when I read that, though it shouldn't have surprised me. It was probably the same group that voted to object to the EC results. I just cannot understand how legislators would think that someone like her belongs in the group, much less deserves a standing ovation. It is sickening.

I get what you are trying to say with the bolded, but I don’t think that is accurate. Give me a single-issue voter who cares about what MTG says. Even the religious who should be appalled at her can fall back on the abortion excuse. People like MTG have figured out she has an infinity leash in her party as most of the R voters who are paying attention are locked in on their hatred for anything “libtard”. Unfortunately that won’t change until the likes of McConnell, Graham, and now McCarthy are long gone.

I just borrowed the bolded from jmh. I'll let him give it a go, but it seems within your response you have answered.

Just look at Windy. An apparent 'moderate' Republican, who "fucking detests the left" (in his words), even though Biden's policies are probably more closely aligned with his own than Trump's were.

But when you view everything through partisan lenses, it's hard to see the wood for the trees.

It’s a crazy world to think she would have been dropped by her label weeks ago if she was a country music star. Now she gets a standing ovation. Have to know your audience!

I've said it for a while. After the civil rights era there were a lot of progressive changes in the country. A lot of people felt "left behind" by those changes one way or another. Quietly for two decades the diseases of "machismo" patriarchy, racism, vitriolic language, and bitterness have built a fever that was unleased on the world in the Trump era.

These people have always been there. It was really non-PC and really unacceptable to be like these people for those two decades. And suddenly it isn't. Those deplorables like MTG were given an excessive voice.

And now we're having to address it.

I just really hope it doesn't turn into a really disorganized and borderless version of the Irish "troubles" era.

And it isn't like people are digging up things she did 15 or 20 years ago. She did all this stuff in the last 2 years. And she is very proud of it. Without those things she has no resume. There is nothing else there. And the House GOP is all in with it. It seems they are bound and determined to ride off the cliff with Q and Trump a la Thelma and Louise (for you youngsters use the Googles, it was a famous movie scene).

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j p o wrote:

And the House GOP is all in with it. It seems they are bound and determined to ride off the cliff with Q and Trump a la Thelma and Louise (for you youngsters use the Googles, it was a famous movie scene).

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Now she’s playing the victim card while saying “people made me believe things I shouldn’t have.”

Pathetic woman.

They “made” her?

The bar to a member of Congress is far too low in some (most? all?) areas of this country.

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Yeah, she just gave a speech in Congress, distancing herself from all her crazy comments over the last two years. She disavowed QAnon, said the school shootings were all real and 9/11 happened. And yes, she said people “made me believe” all those things.

A day late and a dollar short, lady.

I'll use the same argument towards her "excuse" as I do when someone says that antifa lead the charge against the capitol and that the Trumpers mistakenly followed them... "it shows that you'll believe or follow anyone". Do we want blind followers in leadership?

As is the bar to voting.

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I considered adding the same thought but resisted.

How would you affect this change? A Poll Test?

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Has she apologized for her anti-muslim statements? Has she apologized for going to the Capitol and demanding that Mulsim members of congress retake their oath on the bible?


Has she apologized for saying that Obama sent MS-13 to kill Seth Rich?

A poll test is reasonable. But what would be better is to push civics and US government back into classroom. Currently, 9 states have one year of civics in HS. 30 have 1/2 a year, and 11 have nothing at all.
And there is no reason, you can't discuss civics earlier. Middle school is fine.

She donated over $900,000 to her own campaign, which was over 1/3 of the total she raised. She inherited money and a business. She is just a spoiled little rich girl thinking this is all a game.

She actually says, "I was allowed to believe things that weren’t true". She then says she believed it because she did not think congress was doing what it should have been doing. So this is really congress's fault.

Correct me if I am wrong but aren't the Republicans who were the accountability party. You need to take responsibility for your own actions!?! As many have noted, they have really become the snowflake party.

Yesterday she tweeted the following:



Just totally normal spreading lies.

Seriously, how are Republicans not getting as far away as possible from this person?

Interesting. This article has similar stats and they have a map of civics instruction and testing.

Based upon a sample size of a few states with wingnut congressional reps/senators, I fail to see a strong correlation. (I'm looking at you Florida and Alabama.)

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As a Floridan, I can tell you that we never took exams on Civics when I was in school. We usually focused on American made products like Fords and Chevys.

Example. If your F-150 gets 8 miles per gallon and you have 3 gallons of gas in your tank and $15 dollars in your wallet. How much money do you have left over to by Red Man after buying gas to travel the 50 miles to your girlfriend's trailer?

Because you have confounding factors, as well as colliders. For instance, in Florida, we have some pretty amazing gerrymandering skills. That's why we somehow got our district rep, who is not Margarine level, but not far.

Don't let your math and analytics get in the way of me dissing Florida and Alabama.

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If they "made" her believe them then we better get the FBI involved and be rounding up a bunch of people to throw in prison for a long time? Right? Seeing as there's actually some wicked controlling force on the Q side of things "making" people do things. Right? We should hold this Q person and their leadership to justice, right?

hahahahahahhhhhhahaaaaaaaaahhhhahahahahahaha, whew, that was a good one.

If anyone posted something similar to this about their colleagues at work, they would be fired immediately for creating a hostile workplace. The implication of violence is unbelievable.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/02/04/steny-hoyer-house-floor-marjorie-taylor-greene-tweet-photo-sot-tsr-vpx.cnn


ETA: corrected link

Indeed. But apparently the “GOP don’t care”

 
Embattled QAnon congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene 'openly cheated' on her husband of 25 years with a polyamorous tantric sex guru and then moved on to another affair with the manager at her gym

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9246917/Marjorie-Taylor-Green-openly-cheated-husband-men-gym.html


Dang the GOP is filled with freaks

I do enjoy that her go to defense is to blame those damn commies. LOL

I'm not sure I'd call myself a guru, but that's for others to decide.

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Hey, now I am almost certain I went to that gym and did see her there....
certainly the ‘social‘ and loud type (not mine though).
Would be surprised if those were the only lucky ones.

I guess it takes to be ‘The Nasty Dirty’ to get somewhere in the GOP.
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With all that said, that New Democratic Senator Wanock was well known/notorious too. Can you say ‘Baptist Gluttony’.

Video or it never happened...

Did you get the memo, the party has a new name:

GOPQanon

Fits perfectly.

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More of those Republican Christian family values.

It led to many very entertaining answers to her recent tweets...

Rep. Fred Upton on his censure by MI GOP for his vote against Marjorie Taylor Greene:


“Really? She taunted a Parkland school shooting survivor, argued that California wildfires were started by a Jewish space laser, accused Democratic politicians of running a pedophile ring out of a pizza parlor, and questioned whether 9/11 really happened. Does the Cass GOP really think someone like that represents Republican values and should be serving on the education committee?...I stand by my vote”

Nothing to add.

After these state GOP censures of people acting decently, I’m curious to see what it will take for people to leave the GOP.

Has anyone here renounced their affiliation with the GOP in the last year? I’d like to know details— even just basic: how, when, why. No judging, I promise.

Leaving the GOP seems like a pretty strong statement (and also reversible). What needs to happen before there is truly a mass exodus?

Happy to have one of the rational Republicans as my rep in a very right leaning area.

His niece is pretty hot too.

Also, is the GOP just censuring everyone that doesn't vote the party line? Well functioning organizations usually allow or even invite some level of disagreement amongst its members. Punishing dissenting votes/opinions is bad management 101.

'We did not send him there to do 'the right thing' or whatever'- Pennsylvania GOP on Toomey.

At least they're being honest

I would love to see the legislators who are censured change their party affiliation and issue a statement that the GOP has indicated that their values do not appear to align so they have no other option, but that they would love to return if the party's values return to what they once were.

You get a handful of legislators changing party affiliation to Democrat and this bullshit will stop

I'm a GOP-registered voter in the State of Maryland. My family (from Delaware) has been heavily involved in Republican politics for years (grandmother was an alternate delegate at 1964 presidential election, for instance...). Through college I became more centrist in my views, but held onto my registration primarily to vote in primaries because while Reps don't do well nationally here in MD, at a local level in matters especially for gubernatorial and county executive-type positions.

I'm not sure what leaving the party would do other than be symbolic at this point, for me anyway as I vote all over the place. Publicly I've been more anti-Rep than any other point in my life, but I still believe in the supposedly core values of measured, slow change, fiscal and personal responsibility, etc. (not that our current GOP exhibits a hint of any of that.at the national level..).

"When and why" was during the run-up to the election and the support of disenfranchisement over and above the normal gerrymandering (though it's interesting to note as a GOP'er I'm a victim of g-mandering in MD), the purposeful destruction of the USPS, and then everything that happened after the election.

I've never really gotten worked up about politics. I was so upset on January 6th my wife was afraid I was going to get into a fist fight.

So, I guess my decision is that I will never vote for anyone that exhibits the attributes of the Trump republican or supports Trump, locally or nationally.

I can always burn my voter card if it makes everyone feel better...

Something I've noticed is Trumpers labeling non-Trumpers as RINO's that somehow need to be driven out of the GOP, while the Trumpers are reluctant to leave the GOP even though they keep throwing the idea of things like forming a Trump-supporting "Patriot Party" around.

I guess it's tough to leave that whole GOP brand recognition, fundraising apparatus, "RINO" voter base etc behind despite all their rhetoric.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts, Mike.

I saw a news story that 33,000 Republicans in CA have left the GOP since Jan 6. Because it’s easy enough to re-register to be re-affiliated with the GOP later, I wondered if leaving now would send a strong message to GOP leadership. It seems like a stronger message than sending them an email or tweeting about it.

My in-laws are traditional Republicans, not Trump Republicans. I have never felt closer and more loving toward them than this year. It broke my heart to see how angry and stressed they were during September, October and November. They’re 87-ish. They were livid. Sleepless. I think and hope they’re doing better now.

I hope you’re not still experiencing the stress of your anger. I had a friend whose fiancé cheated on him, and he had a ceremonial burning of stuff she had given him. Ceremonies can be powerful, but I certainly don’t need you to burn your card to feel better myself. Your ceremonies should be geared to your own healing.

I’m kind of embarrassed to say that I shouted “fuck Trump” as loud as I could while running trails this fall. I really had so much anger. It’s mostly gone now. I still hate what he’s done and continues to do, but I’m not overwhelmed by it like I was before.

Yep. That has occurred to me on another forum I belong to. I told them that if being a Republican means that I have to support a lying con man and be happy about what happened at the capitol then they can have it.

The Trumpers are numerous and loud. I say let them have the Republican party because they've soiled it so much that independents and moderate Dems will not want anything to do with it.

I hope that corporations will quite donating money to the trump Republicans and all who showed their cowardice with their impeachment votes. That will get their attention more than anything else.

I'm stuck with Walberg.

He's the worst. Can we trade?

Nothing a little cathartic and passive-aggressive unfriending of Facebook people couldn't fix. :-)

I switched my party affiliation to Dem last week after being a registered Repub in Florida for the past twenty years.

I was never a Trump supporter (voted Clinton in 2016 and Biden in 2020), but I generally voted R down the ballot every election.

Up until 2016, I thought that the Republicans were the party of the grownups: Rational, had integrity, and had the US's best interests in mind. But after Trump got elected and the party leaders began to sidle up to him (if not outright pledge their fealty to him), it was obvious what the party's true intentions had become: Maintain power.

I don't have time to write up or articulate all that the Republicans will have to do to earn my respect and affiliation again, but in a nutshell:

1) Leave no room for interpretation that the party will no longer make QAnon or white supremacist groups have a home with a major political party.

2) Stop trying to disenfranchise minority voters. It may cost the party over the next couple of elections, but take control of the message and let it be known that voting rights for all Americans is a high priority.

3) Stop cozying up to evangelicals to push this narrative that the Rs are the party of values, honor, integrity, etc.

4) Either be about fiscal responsibility or shut the fuck up it.

5) Do some serious soul searching and figure out why half the country doesn't care what Republicans have to say anymore.

It seems that the Republican party platform has become "Whatever Trump tells us" rather than having ideals that they stick to.

I thought it had become "Own the Libs" and Kiss trump's Ass.

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Just to tag on... Thanks for replying. Sometimes it can be tough to dig into people's heads and that was a really valuable insight.

I am a registered Democrat, but I could see myself voting for Republicans that espoused this.

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Of course you can, but that shouldn’t be a surprise because the vast majority of people just want representatives that are simply good people that walk the talk. Having a D or R next to names is there to scare people into thinking of the worst associations with those letters.

It’s posts like yours and MikeH’s that do the most for building unity.

I looked to see how many Floridians have left the GOP since Jan 6, but I didn’t see any recent stories. Immediately after Jan 6, there were reportedly “thousands” who left.

Thank you for your thoughts.