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Re: 2015 Spring Classics Thread *****Spoilers***** [echappist] [ In reply to ]
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I've come to like Wiggo too. Seems like more of a bloke than a prima donna.

The whole Sky at the front thing is a big zzzzzzzzzz. It matters when you've got guys like Kennaugh and "G" (as the suck up English commentators refer to him) are crushing the rest of the world up a long climb. But on the flats, for one day, it pretty much allows for a lot of sitting on. It's not like they're really making the race that much harder most of the time.

Paolini should be pretty fresh from RvV and there doesn't seem to be any drama between him and Kristoff. Both are being pros. Paolini is a smart dude.

I'm really pulling for Sagan. All this no monument talk is true, per se, but he rides his ass off and is almost always in the money and he'll get his and when he does it will be great. He's doing some growing up under a very harsh spotlight. I'd like to see him smiling and grabbing booty on a podium soon.
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Re: 2015 Spring Classics Thread *****Spoilers***** [McNulty] [ In reply to ]
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I'd like Sagan to win. I'd like Stybar to win. I'd like Wiggo to win in a certain manner. I've got issues...
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Re: 2015 Spring Classics Thread *****Spoilers***** [Carl Spackler] [ In reply to ]
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I'll cheer for Sagan when he's shown he's actually grown up. I look at the way he handled himself when he was younger vs someone like Taylor Phinney, and it's massive. Taylor still acted young, but he showed class. He was just quirky, and he still is (a big part of why I like him as a person/rider) He wasn't pinching girls asses on the podium, or being photographed wearing completely inappropriate (and wholly uncreative) t-shirts (I'm at work or I'd post the picture, just google "Peter Sagan t-shirt" it's the first image). Sagan sort of took winning for granted so much during his first few years as a pro, that I'm fine watching him struggle a bit. And, as we talked about previously in this thread, I think he's been coming "back to earth" the last two seasons from being on something undetectable 2013 and prior. Time will tell on that one.
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Re: 2015 Spring Classics Thread *****Spoilers***** [Landyachtz] [ In reply to ]
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total noob question but what the hell happened to Stybars mouth? I just hope for shat weather so everyone gets coated in a nice layer of Belgian toothpaste
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Re: 2015 Spring Classics Thread *****Spoilers***** [talking head] [ In reply to ]
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talking head wrote:
total noob question but what the hell happened to Stybars mouth?

This: https://vimeo.com/103453321

He apparently had to take his false teeth out during Flanders because they rattled loose.
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Re: 2015 Spring Classics Thread *****Spoilers***** [Landyachtz] [ In reply to ]
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Not many 23 year old men act very grown up...especially pro athletes who've never had a real job or responsibilities. Of course I'm biased in his favor. I don't deny that his performances 2 years ago and before we're suspicious either. But then there are still plenty of unusual performances today. Anyway, picks for tomorrow:

Greipel
Kristoff
Renshaw

Viviani
Sagan
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Re: 2015 Spring Classics Thread *****Spoilers***** [McNulty] [ In reply to ]
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I've come to like Wiggo too. Seems like more of a bloke than a prima donna.

The whole Sky at the front thing is a big zzzzzzzzzz. It matters when you've got guys like Kennaugh and "G" (as the suck up English commentators refer to him) are crushing the rest of the world up a long climb. But on the flats, for one day, it pretty much allows for a lot of sitting on. It's not like they're really making the race that much harder most of the time.

Paolini should be pretty fresh from RvV and there doesn't seem to be any drama between him and Kristoff. Both are being pros. Paolini is a smart dude.

I'm really pulling for Sagan. All this no monument talk is true, per se, but he rides his ass off and is almost always in the money and he'll get his and when he does it will be great. He's doing some growing up under a very harsh spotlight. I'd like to see him smiling and grabbing booty on a podium soon.

I was comparing the early days of Boonen and Cancellara and in many regards Sagan age wise is more impressive than either of them. He is getting stronger each year, he no longer gets dropped on the climbs and is almost always latching on to the winning moves.
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Re: 2015 Spring Classics Thread *****Spoilers***** [Carl Spackler] [ In reply to ]
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I'd like Wiggo to win in a certain manner


It would be nice for him to exit on a winning note!


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Re: 2015 Spring Classics Thread *****Spoilers***** [craigj532] [ In reply to ]
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craigj532 wrote:
talking head wrote:
total noob question but what the hell happened to Stybars mouth?


This: https://vimeo.com/103453321

He apparently had to take his false teeth out during Flanders because they rattled loose.
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Yikes, I liked him as a crosser gonna pull for him on the cobbles. Been enjoying the classics this year, I've never really watched them before.
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Re: 2015 Spring Classics Thread *****Spoilers***** [craigj532] [ In reply to ]
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craigj532 wrote:
talking head wrote:
total noob question but what the hell happened to Stybars mouth?


This: https://vimeo.com/103453321

He apparently had to take his false teeth out during Flanders because they rattled loose.

holy crap sandwich! he ate a big mouthful of galvanized steel & tarmac on that one. Surprised he didn't break his neck given how violently he pitch-poled.
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Re: 2015 Spring Classics Thread *****Spoilers***** [kollac] [ In reply to ]
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seeing as three's 80k left, i'm going dark horse for this mid week classic and going Viviani, Farrar, and Petacchi
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Re: 2015 Spring Classics Thread *****Spoilers***** [Carl Spackler] [ In reply to ]
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Good point on Etixx. I read Terpstra's comments thinking he'd be able to ride clear on one of the remaining climbs, but Kristoff hit them with a tempo that killed the idea. Why he continued to work with him is a mystery to me, I mean that sprint was a joke. You'd think someone with Terpstra's experience would be able to sense how strong their break companion is and know when to stop helping the other guy to finish line. Who knows, I imagine the "what if" would be intoxicating.

would u like to go into a sprint finish with him, sagan, and sep?

after he went over the last climb the race was over it was second or forth... I will take second any day.

The entire event (IM) is like "death by 1000 cuts" and the best race is minimizing all those cuts and losing less blood than the other guy. - Dev
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Re: 2015 Spring Classics Thread *****Spoilers***** [LuisDF] [ In reply to ]
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btw: Niki, GT, Sep :D

The entire event (IM) is like "death by 1000 cuts" and the best race is minimizing all those cuts and losing less blood than the other guy. - Dev
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Re: 2015 Spring Classics Thread *****Spoilers***** [LuisDF] [ In reply to ]
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LuisDF wrote:
Carl Spackler wrote:
Good point on Etixx. I read Terpstra's comments thinking he'd be able to ride clear on one of the remaining climbs, but Kristoff hit them with a tempo that killed the idea. Why he continued to work with him is a mystery to me, I mean that sprint was a joke. You'd think someone with Terpstra's experience would be able to sense how strong their break companion is and know when to stop helping the other guy to finish line. Who knows, I imagine the "what if" would be intoxicating.


would u like to go into a sprint finish with him, sagan, and sep?

after he went over the last climb the race was over it was second or forth... I will take second any day.

It was Greg van Avermaet chasing with Sagan, not Sep. Sep was a good 50 positions back at the finish...

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Re: 2015 Spring Classics Thread *****Spoilers***** [tessartype] [ In reply to ]
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my bad, I typed the wrong name but I now make sense cause BMC = red lol

The entire event (IM) is like "death by 1000 cuts" and the best race is minimizing all those cuts and losing less blood than the other guy. - Dev
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Re: 2015 Spring Classics Thread *****Spoilers***** [LuisDF] [ In reply to ]
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But your point still stands. As it is, Terpstra isn't the best of sprinters, so if he managed to distance one (Sagan) of them and another puncheur like himself, he might as well ride for second place rather than fourth. He was trying to balance staying away with saving strength, but he didn't stand a chance against Kristoff anyway. Those few short turns he took didn't really harm his non-existent chances, anyway. Kristoff knew it as well, that's why he didn't force Terpstra any more than he needed.

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Re: 2015 Spring Classics Thread *****Spoilers***** [tessartype] [ In reply to ]
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My sense is that there is some form of mutual agreement that is reached, either actually discussed or assumed, by the parties when you get away in these two-up breaks late in a race where their are substantial differences in strengths. Both Kristoff and Terpstra acknowledged this after the race in post race comments.

I got away in a two up break a few years ago in a local race with, I guy who was way stronger than I was. We agreed to really drill it for about 10 minutes or so, me contributing what I could, and see where we got. We gaped the field by a couple of minutes in this time, then backed off and rode a a decent pace to the finish, where I was dusted in the sprint. I gave it a bit of an effort, but it was next to useless - I'm not going to beat the Masters Provincial Road Champ. I was happy with 2nd place. There were guys back in the main field who were much fitter stronger than me! It was my lucky day. That's road racing! :)


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Re: 2015 Spring Classics Thread *****Spoilers***** [Fleck] [ In reply to ]
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Yup, one of the things I enjoy the most about road cycling - both participating and spectating. Allies of circumstance that fulfill the roles given to them, with codes and agreements that don't even need to be discussed.

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Re: 2015 Spring Classics Thread *****Spoilers***** [tessartype] [ In reply to ]
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geez, that sucked.......bad, bad, crash.........i don't wanna race no mo.....
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Re: 2015 Spring Classics Thread *****Spoilers***** [McNulty] [ In reply to ]
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Geez, Kristoff is en fuego. Theuns made a pretty nice move splitting the uprights for second.

Nasty crash, I hope everyone gets up off the carpet in one piece.
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Re: 2015 Spring Classics Thread *****Spoilers***** [tessartype] [ In reply to ]
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Jeez....Kristoff is definitely the man on fire right now. Although I am not certain why he rode that hard with Roubaix coming up.

nasty crash in the last KM.....still waiting to see who is among the causalities.

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Re: 2015 Spring Classics Thread *****Spoilers***** [kollac] [ In reply to ]
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well $hit...I pick Kristoff to win everything from now on... Considering Greipel didn't even show I had the right guy up top...
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Re: 2015 Spring Classics Thread *****Spoilers***** [kollac] [ In reply to ]
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well $hit...I pick Kristoff to win everything from now on... Considering Greipel didn't even show I had the right guy up top...

. . . but imagine for a moment if Greipel, who was clearly on good form and with great legs at RVV, had instead of all of his other moves and attacks, just waited and then latched on the back of the Kristoff/Terpstra move?

That could have killed the move, or if it did stick and the three of them stayed away, made the complexion of the finale, now with two really strong sprinters a whole different ball game!


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Re: 2015 Spring Classics Thread *****Spoilers***** [Fleck] [ In reply to ]
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Good day for Katusha....J-Rod just won the stage in Pais Vasco.

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Re: 2015 Spring Classics Thread *****Spoilers***** [Power13] [ In reply to ]
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jeezes farking kristoff

amazing.
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