Especially if you are a Specialized employee...

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Specialized. Cannondale doesn't make a TT/Tri bike. (Though I don't think the Shiv has been updated since the Reagan administration).

But, yeah, I thought it was a joke when Specialized came out with that name. Yeah, let's name a high-end TT bike after like a razor blade duct-taped to the end of a toothbrush.

OP, harden the fuck up

Oh man. I gotta lay off the pipe..

Well, I think that explanation should have been in the first post, but better late than never.
Personally there are a bunch of terms I dislike that are commonly used here and elsewhere. I'd say "butt hurt" is the worst I can think of off-hand. It's just unpleasant, unnecessary and seems to be used specifically to offend. I wouldn't bother asking people not to say it though. It's massively unlikely anyone will care what I think on the subject and besides, anyone using that phrase will continue thinking the same way regardless of whether they use the same words - so what's the point.

In the case of "crack-pipe", while I get your objection, I'm not sure it's justified. The name is a reference to the shape and I don't think it's meant as a dig, or joke at anyone's expense. I don't like the reference and wouldn't be inclined to call it that. It's a 90 degree valve adaptor. But I think I don't think it's a real problem worth complaining about. I'm not going to worry about it.

As for "popping cherry", I'm not american, I've heard the term, it's kinda silly, but if it has some offensive connotation I'm not aware of it. Is it not just a playful term for losing one's virginity? Is there more to it than that? Again, I'd just say it was my first IM or my first time riding a tri bike or whatever, but if someone wanted to say they popped their IM cherry, so what? Am I missing something?

Telling somebody to harden up is offensive to those with erectile disfunction.

Fair enough. I know it's not meant as a dig. But here's the thing - for some of us who saw or were affected by the so-called crack epidemic and war on drugs up close it's a disturbing reminder. Which gets to my point about learning about the origins, and not using words related to "others" that those others would find offensive.

And I don't understand why people here find my asking them to avoid it so disturbing (not you) - certainly that reflects a disregard for others perceptions.

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Two that I've seen in the last few weeks: "popping cherry" and "crack pipe." Please think about original meaning of these words. I hope you'll avoid using them here.

I think people are getting tired of constantly being told what to write, what to say, how to act etc. People are taking offense to everything and it's getting tiring trying to be so politically correct.

That was a cheapshot, pls leave me out of this.

"Crack pipe" is probably also offensive to those that own a Silca Hiro. I hope to join this club soon!

Because if everything that was potential disturbing to someone couldn’t be used no one would be able to say anything anymore. It’s not that people don’t understand why after you explained, it’s that you expect a whole forum to change a common vocabulary term specific to an item to change what they say because of your offense to it. This is exactly the whole PC culture that people are sick of.

I completely got that wrong

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If PC culture means paying attention to the voices of whole groups of people who you don't typically consider, then yes, I think you should consider being a bit more PC. I consider this a good thing - being more aware of the origins of words you use. If you seriously think that a jokey term related to a serious problem like this is fine to use, have at it. I'm not your boss. I'm not telling anyone what they can and cannot say. I'm only asking that they learn about the origins of the term and consider my request. It is bizarre that just making this request is so annoying to you.

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I think I can kind of see both sides of the argument.

People seem to bristle at just more seemingly arbitrary 'rules' applied to them.

But, I gotta say, after seeing the jaw-dropping doc, "The House I Live In" (link to trailer), my desire to call a bike item a crack pipe just disappeared ...

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"Political Correctness" is a serious problem. It takes legitimate concerns and turns them into semantics. Don't tackle words. Tackle attitudes and circumstances. Stopping someone saying a word and turning it into a taboo doesn't change the attitude or circumstances that made it offensive in the first place. Another term will arise in it's place, and that term will not be the problem either.

I've just been contacted by Mr Roger Mellie, the well known TV personality and author of numerous books such as "Roger's Profanisaurus".

Roger's kindly offered his services to act as a forum moderator and has just started writing his first and last contribution to this thread:

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You really went balls to the wall with that one...

Ummm...you do realize that phrase has nothing to do with anatomy, right?

http://www.wordorigins.org/...p/balls_to_the_wall/

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what about balls deep?

that's a hard one to swallow

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I know exactly what it means but I wanted to say "Balls"

 

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War on drugs? I hope youre joking. I'm from a city in Mexico almost on the border with the USA, lived there till 2011 when I moved to the USA to get my masters degree. Google what was happening in Mexico from 2008-2011 especially along the border, but you don't see me getting my panties in a bunch when somebody says crack pipe. You should really get over being offended.

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I hate political correctness but on the other hand don't use these terms. I can see your point. I think popping the cherry is often used in boasting as in "I popped her cherry" which is pretty crass. The kind of political correctness that bugs me the most is that which is moving a political agenda (such as insisting on gender neutral pronouns) complying with this kind of request to me would be just common courtesy.

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If your goal in life is to traverse this planet and not offend anybody I say kudos to you. However, I don't need to be told how I should be taking my journey throughout the world. My choice of words, my choice of being offensive are all things I'd ask you to consider, these are my right as a free-minded individual.

I find it offensive that I can not just speak how I want, where I want with the actual tone and perspective taken into consideration. This is to say I have manners and education which allows me to know when something is overtly offensive. I will not however go through life considering all the nuances of all the terms or "figures of speech" I use regularly if they don't appear at first glance as offensive. Your posting deeply offends me and I'm not joking here or making light of you. Groups of people online and in the media are bullying people for being who they are and taking words used out of context and giving them a different perspective rather than just calling a spade a spade.

This is a subculture, we are endurance athletes, I use a "crack pipe" on my disc-wheel and here, in our subculture that is a very acceptable term. If Dan ran a poll of the user base it would be by far the proper accepted nomenclature used. If you don't like it then perhaps focus on political rallies and changing the world in other areas and leave us to our subculture and it's offensive bits.

I apologize ahead of time if you found any of this offensive.

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I’ll take a crack at it. No not that kind of crack, I’m sorry ... you ok? We good?

See, everyone in life has hardships. Some grew up poor. Some lost family members. Some were addicted or family was. Name the circumstance, someone has gone thru it

But see my point above? We start saying a word is too insensitive for you, what about other members? Why should we avoid using words that have other meanings because *one* user is offended? That’s lowest common denominator shit.

Personally I think your approach is misguided and telling ST not to use a word is guaranteed to get the responses you have. Anyone else remember the thread (think it wasn’t here) where someone bitched about using the term “bike porn”?

Jus to me but if *you* have a problem with a word, respectfully I suggest that you either (1) get whatever help you need to deal with your issues so that you are not triggered by something that might happen in society or, lacking that (2) if a word is used here that you can’t handle, don’t come here

Personally there’s only one word here’s I won’t use, and that’s because Dan asked us (told) not to. Fair enough

The rest? Fuck it