and? i'm absolutely honest. and what? I assume you're stating that 1. you think the 50/50/50 is a gimmick (can you define that further because to me you're downplaying the support, planning, coordiation, media, and sponsors that need 50/50/50 to happen, and then, yeah, you need the ATHLETE. you need someone physically capable of doing in 3.8k swim, 180km bike and 42.2 km run Each And Every Day, rain or shine, feeling well or not, sleep or not, support vehicle or not, bike shoes or not (did you know there were a couple days he couldn't wear bike shoes?), food or not (did you know there were a couple days he had no breakfast?, regardless of weather (because unlike a race he doesn't get to cancel when the roads flood) and to roll with each and every obstacle and STILL meet thousands of people and take your time with them to get to know them WHILE YOU"RE DOING YOUR Nth IM) AND 2) you are faster than he is in a race.

and due to these 2 things you feel justified in making up claims and belittling his effort and success? today is a day that many of you take as a holy day. i would simply ask you to reflect honestly on why. why do you need to fabricate (without apology) and belittle an athletic achievement so far out of your reach of which you have no hope of ever completing even 1/10th. why? i am quite curious how you justify this.

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A few pages back it was said that James had changed his cause.....here is the promotional video he made on December 2 of 2014



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1ZHv8mNkC8

Not sure, His coach stated somewhere on his blog that he is listing the from start to finish of each discipline, which includes whatever breaks he takes during.

For his LA bike leg, his moving time was 5:14 and his overall bike time was 6:34. Presumably he took a hour break(s)

The coach probably just made an arithmetic error when he posted the overall total time

Updated splits (no T1 or T2 times are included in the overall total)

from Garmin and/or comments:
Day 1 - Hawaii - 1:07/6:21/5:23 = 12:51
Day 2 - Alaska - 1:08/6:33/5:23 = 13:05
Day 3 - Washington - 1:23*/7:12/5:33 = 14:08 (Swim: 1:15:23 + 7:49 = 1:23:12. He swim an additional 400 yds between B and R due to him swimming yards when he thought he was swimming meters.)
Day 4 - Oregon - 1:23/6:30/5:04 = 12:58
Day 5 - California - 1:26/6:46/5:30 = 13:43
Day 6 - Nevada - 1:34/7:31/6:19 = 15:24
Day 7 - Arizona - 1:44/7:39/6:39 = 15:02
Day 8 - New Mexico - 1:33/9:17 (6:20 moving)/ ~6:30 = ~17:30
Day 9 - Colorado - 1:38/7:38/6:23 = 15:39
Day 10 - Kansas - 1:32/7:37/6:38 = 15:48
Day 11 - Oklahoma - 1:35/7:30/7:17 = 16:22
Day 12 - Texas (indoors) - 1:21/6:26/5:55 = 13:43
Day 13 - Louisana (indoors) - 1:19/6:34/5:27 = 14:20
Day 14 - Arkansas - 1:16/6:47 (1:47 indoors)/6:09 = 14:11

Mr. Monty referenced this earlier. I actually think there is quite a bit of support here but there is a vocal minority (i am certain, with faith in my fellow human beings, it MUST be a minority) who are so rigid and limited that they cannot allow themselves to appreciate James's effort and success without it being sanctioned by some authority. and for some other reason (perhaps for the same reason that we feel the need to share our amazement at what James has achieved thus far) they feel the need to share that he is Not Conforming To Their Ideas Of What He Must Do.

my theory is that the FOPers and the MOPers and BOPers and the PROs are all pretty much a solid group and forgiving and appreciative. there is a very small faction who think they are on the edge of greatness and triathlon is filling a deep hole of ego in their lives. and they are teh cheaters, the "haters" and those who will grasp at any straw to disallow anything to detract from their imagined success, whether it be a 17-hour finisher or a 50/50/50 guy (cause he's not RACING). and really, all we can do is feel sorry for those guys because there is SO much more to life than taking 1st or 2nd or 3rd in your AG and (gasp!) even a KQ.

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the ONLY reason i posted that picture is because i thought you'd get a kick out of it. :) happy Sunday!

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and I guess this didn't count either.

In 2006, Karnazes embarked on the well-publicized Endurance 50: 50 marathons in 50 states in 50 consecutive days.

Stunt. Total gimmick.
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I'll admit that I was being a hater when he started the indoor tri bonanza a couple of days ago. However I talked to a coworker of mine that's been following Iron Cowboy as well, and he brought up three points:

1. He's not getting an award for all of this, so what does it matter if he does it indoors or outdoors?
2. It's still an impressive endurance feat.
3. What's to be gained from trying to take away from it.

Point 3 is what really made me step back and reflect on my opinion. The guy isn't committing a crime in what he's doing, and he's likely inspiring a lot of athletes in ways that our pros could only hope to do.

Anyway, here's one converted hater.

"and belittle an athletic achievement so far out of your reach of which you have no hope of ever completing even 1/10th. why? i am quite curious how you justify this. "

Yep, haters gonna hate.

Just because someone has a different opinion about something does not make them a "hater". I think Iron Cowboys event is an impressive feat of endurance.

I also think that viewing an Ironman as a race event, where the best effort is determined by the fastest time during one day according to the specified rules is also a valid viewpoint. That is, after all what the rules are and how the winner is officially determined.

If somebody is a lot more impressed by that than someone stringing together 50 much slower times not according to the rules I have no problem with that. Does that make me a "hater"?

Ok, screw it. He's awesome!! If he makes it to Williamsburg, I'll run the 5k with him.

Count for what? It wasn't a race. Dean marketed the hell out of it, including a book deal and movie. He has always been way more impressive at marketing than running. Outside of that you probably would have never heard of him.

Dean never billed it as a world record attempt. He wasn't even the first to do it. In the grand scheme of ultra running it was not even that amazing of a feat. His 350 miles in 80 hours is more impressive. So I'm not sure why you would hold Dean's 50/50 up as some gold standard. It was way more of a shameless marketing event than what James is doing.

Awwww! Well Bless Your Heart!

happy father's day to everyone ! (it is Father's day up there, right?)

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It is quite possible that James would smoke you at a deca format race. Maybe we can setup a grudge match. :)

James isn't billing this as a world record attempt either. He's been asked many times, Guinness isn't there.

Oh sorry, I recognized your feeble attempt at busting my balls, and ignored it.

Kathy,

That was nicely stated.

Thank you, Alan

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Clearly James is an excellent and accomplished endurance athlete, but as it stands now, what he is doing is within reach of many many more athletes than the hype surrounding this event has apparently led a lot of the "lovers" to believe.

I submit Exhibit A: his sleep log from his blog. Clearly doing 140.6 repeats on 4 hours sleep (in the back of a van / RV / Subaru no less) is something we're all capable of.






http://www.ironcowboy.co/blog/

Actually his website said he was going to do 50 races but I guess we don't want to get technical.

“You can’t do 50 full Ironman 140.6 races 50 Days through 50 States - that is impossible”
YES I CAN, and I WILL.. Only this time I want to inspire the nation to join me.
http://www.ironcowboy.co/story/
But he has of course stepped back from this because he knows it is impossible.
I do of course want to thank him for pointing out the epidemic of obesity that this country, and the world quite frankly, is facing. I never would have known about it without his epic event. Where can I donate?

Let's be very clear about this. It is a ridiculous stunt he is trying to pull off. I hope he does. But this isn't for any charity. That is a diversion. This is all about him. Lets not forget that.

It is a damn cool stunt though.

That was cool how you changed what I said.

so apparently yesterday was father's day up there too. hope you all had a great one! yesterday they stayed at a state park and his 2 eldest rode with him during the run (thus helmeted in the picture).



today they are off to Kentucky. can you imagine, after 5-6 hours sleep every night waking up to an IM. every. single. day?

#17 June 22, 2015 (Monday) – Henderson, Kentucky
Group: https://www.facebook.com/.../kentuckyironcowboy/
RSVP: https://www.facebook.com/events/840811122669565/

#18 June 23, 2015 (Tuesday) – Chattanooga, Tennessee
Group: https://www.facebook.com/...tennesseeironcowboy/
RSVP: https://www.facebook.com/events/386425838229548/

#19 June 24, 2015 (Wednesday) – Ridgeland, Mississippi
Group: https://www.facebook.com/...ssissippiironcowboy/
RSVP: https://www.facebook.com/events/642048295928408/

#20 June 25, 2015 (Thursday) – Mobile, Alabama
Group: https://www.facebook.com/...s/alabamaironcowboy/
RSVP: https://www.facebook.com/...ts/1649617768601024/

#21 June 26, 2015 (Friday) – Pensacola, Florida
Group: https://www.facebook.com/...s/floridaironcowboy/
RSVP: https://www.facebook.com/events/336869916436978/

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For those claiming he's a bad father you now have actual evidence. His daughter's helmet is way too far back on her head.

I wonder at what point the WTC will come in a say he can't use the word Ironman on his website. He can use Iron DIstance....but not Ironman. My bet is pretty soon if he starts to get some press.

I'm not taking a side on this, I'm just curious to see if he makes it. Regarding the record attempt, I agree with others that this probably can't/shouldn't be recognized, simply due to the lack of parameters.

I'm very, very dubious regarding the charitable aspect of this. Seems like there has been very little attempt to actually raise money. Anyone who thinks this exercise will make an appreciable difference in the world is delusional.

To get more technical: to ME, ironman "distance" is swimming 3.8k (I'll accept a pool swim), biking 112 miles, and running 26.2. I'm pretty sure USAT wouldn't sanction a bike on a trainer or a run on a treadmill. Technically, no "distance" is covered. I'm not good with that.

Again, I'm not rooting for or against him. The lawyer in me just needs to clarify the rules and give my $.02.