So you don't like people who ask for the data/facts and make their own decision/opinion based on said data?

You must be in the liberal arts field.

I'm fascinated by this endeavor and amazed at its possibility. Much respect. But am frustrated by the continued "shouting down" of the so called "haters".
I don't see any haters. I see people expressing their opions of the chance of success and the way the whole process is being undertaken. It seems that predictions of failure or questioning the "rules" is not to be tolerated.
In many cases people just want to know what the rules are. If its not "17 hours", and its not "completing within the 24 hour day", and its "come back and do a little more swimming later", and its "lets do this part indoors"...while still an amazing achievement I think all the making up the rules as we go along does seem to water it down just a bit. I think many just want to know the parameters going into this thing. It gives it more validity.

Now I know that may not be a popular opionon on this thread, and maybe I'll be asked to leave, or someone will post a disrespectful meme because someone disagreed with it. But no one is hating, after all ths is the "prediction" thread, not the "kumbayaa, lets all hold hands and declare our undying everlasting praise for the IronCowboy" thread.

I'm a lawyer. Sometimes you just let the other side talk, inform the judge there is no need for a response, and let him hammer the other side. Like in this case.

I just hope there are not legs where he has to ride a trainer or run on a treadmill ....hopefully weather/travel will cooperate and prevent that from happening. The guy is nuts...and I will be following :) I want to see his PMC in Training Peaks too.

Back when I was a young lawyer (nearly 20 yeas ago) I was in court arguing some random motion. Probably one of the first few time's I was in court. After the other side made some ridicuous argument, I start to speak. The judge interupts me to ask the other side a question and they start in on some crazy response. I start to interupt and the judge stops me again. This time he directs his comments my direction and says "son, part of learning to be a good lawyer is to recognize when you're winning and shutup. This is one of those times." Needless to say I remained quiet for the rest of the hearing and won the motion. I learned a valuable lesson that day and one that I continue to employ almost daily.

This is what I posted in this thread on May 20th. Today they are saying he is inside because of Hurricane Bill. Bill is not a hurricane, the storm is a tropical depression. The amount of exercise he is doing is impressive. Doing it without facing the elements takes away from his endeavor.

This is what I posted in this thread on May 20th. Today they are saying he is inside because of Hurricane Bill. Bill is not a hurricane, the storm is a tropical depression. The amount of exercise he is doing is impressive. Doing it without facing the elements takes away from his endeavor.

So is your suggestion he goes out in unsafe weather?

Or should he just man up and complete the distance inside??

I was simply stating my opinion....not looking to argue. I do not feel the weather is unsafe. It is partly cloudy and windy with a 10% chance of precipitation.

Doesn't this whole argument boil down to expectations?

The IC laid out an impossible ask complete with maps, dates, times, courses, ext. A few of us quickly jumped onto those smaller points and pointed out the obvious. THE TASK IS IMPOSSIBLE.

The issue is not with what he is trying to accomplish on the grand scale, it is the fact that he defined an impossible mission. He has failed his own defined mission as stated prior to the start of this adventure. He hasn't completed the routes he said he would. He has finished after midnight. ext.

The pre race message was obviously way more rigid than reality has allowed. He would have been way better off setting much lower expectations, such as, "we are just a wild and crazy bunch of cowboys planning doing 50 full distance races in 50 states, and 50 days. Join our Rodeo! Stay on our facebook page to see updates, routes, and changes."

I love the guys effort. I am fine with the self promotion. and I am beyond impressed that he has made it this far. But I don't begrudge the haters, as they are pointing out issues that the IC and his crew brought upon themselves by setting unrealistic expectations.

What we need is to hammer out an ST-approved set of rules for future similar endeavors. Would doing 60 indoor iron distances in 60 days, all in the same gym, break this 50/50/50 record (assuming he makes it one way or another)??? Or can he/she swim in a pool but all the bikes and runs need to be outside??? Is a relatively flat course OK, or does each iron "race" need X000 ft of climbing??? If the ST powers that be could agree on the rules, it would make the judging of future events easier. I have a feeling that this thread may unleash a bunch of attempts to break the 50/50 record, i.e. maybe not trying to go to all 50 states b/c that is too expensive but to try to do say 60 irons in 60 days, then 70, 80, etc. Ultimately someone will likely do 365 irons in 365 days, all on the same 2 mile strip of road, then the next person will have to go for 400 in 400, then 500 in 500, etc. WTC will go out of business b/c a mere single iron will seem to be child's play:)

I'm a lawyer. Sometimes you just let the other side talk, inform the judge there is no need for a response, and let him hammer the other side. Like in this case.

This is what I posted in this thread on May 20th. Today they are saying he is inside because of Hurricane Bill. Bill is not a hurricane, the storm is a tropical depression. The amount of exercise he is doing is impressive. Doing it without facing the elements takes away from his endeavor.

People like you are why I do not come to Slowtwitch on a daily basis.

You don't seem to want any response in this particular case. Please review what you have written, and I think that you may recognize it as a more a bullying forceful tone rather than an opinion (based on data or otherwise) based discussional tone. I don't see an interest in partaking in a thoughtful repartee from a diametrically opposed viewpoint, but rather a need to quell any thought process which differs from your own. This is not really the hallmark of intelligence to me, but again, that is just my humble opinion.

Stephen J

You don't seem to want any response in this particular case. Please review what you have written, and I think that you may recognize it as a more a bullying forceful tone rather than an opinion (based on data or otherwise) based discussional tone. I don't see an interest in partaking in a thoughtful repartee from a diametrically opposed viewpoint, but rather a need to quell any thought process which differs from your own. This is not really the hallmark of intelligence to me, but again, that is just my humble opinion.

Stephen J

I am outraged! There are clear rules and standards on who is allowed to call themselves a Cowboy, and IRONCowboy 50 clearly does not meet them!

Go, approximately-iron-distance-not-actually-a-cowboy, Go!