djb_rh wrote:
Bryce Lewis TR wrote:
Since the workouts have been difficult for you, you may want to retest your FTP using the Ramp Test before you proceed with your training.
I haven't been following this thread in a while (but I've been using TR since the Mac version first came out, though never any actual "plans" for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is that I've mostly been coached since then), but I have a question about the Ramp Test. My apologies if this has been covered and if so I'll submit to being pointed to that discussion, but if not, have you seen any problems with heavier folks and the Ramp Test?
By that I mean I'm 205 pounds. I've had an FTP around 300 in the past, but am currently not focused on cycling other than for fun. That said, I still do occasionally do TR workouts when I can't get outside easily. Anyway, my FTP was way down around 225 on a 20 minute test, and that felt "right" when doing TR workouts. That is to say the IF matched the perceived intensity.
Then I did a Ramp Test and got like 270 or something crazy. TR set my FTP and I left it there for like two workouts that nearly killed me before having to manually dial them back.
Is the ramp test not great for those of us who are heavier? Or am *I* an anomaly? FWIW, I was using the newest generation KICKR on that test, though my last 20 minute indoor test was probably on my first generation KICKR. After some initial teething pains with the current gen KICKR, it feels the same as the original did, though.
Curious of your thoughts here. I like the idea of the shorter time period Ramp Test (I mean I'm like most, I hate 20 minute FTP tests), but it just doesn't seem accurate for me.
--Donnie
We have not noticed an issue with heavier athletes specifically, but there are certainly people that fall outside the norm, leading to inflated FTP values. For example, if VO2 max is your strength, and sustained power is your weakness, then the Ramp Test can give you an inflated value compared to a 20 minute test.
If you'd like to use the Ramp Test in the future, you can use a reduction factor that feels right so that you can continue to track your progress. Lets say the Ramp Test gives you a value of 270 watts, but you feel that 240 is more accurate. Take 240/270 and you get a 0.89 multiplication factor.
This means that in the future, you can do the Ramp Test to compare to your previous tests, but then you will multiply your result by 0.89 to "correct" it to where your FTP should be.
I hope that makes sense :) Feel free to reach out if you have any further questions.
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