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Re: New Aero Brakes [Andrew Coggan] [ In reply to ]
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"As someone else put it: handling skills or hospital bills. :-)"
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And I thought the Swiss Miss had a scary set up.

Doesn't someone like Oval, or whoever, make a rig that attaches the aerobars directly to the stem? Why have that little piece of basebar in there at all?

(Isn't it a bit weird having the brakes at asymmetric points on the bars?)


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Re: New Aero Brakes [Tom A.] [ In reply to ]
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Besides...Matt's brake tests out fairly aero as it is ;-) I'd put it up against that EE brake any day.


wow - pics of my bike and my crotch in the same thread!

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Re: New Aero Brakes [docfuel] [ In reply to ]
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Doesn't someone like Oval, or whoever, make a rig that attaches the aerobars directly to the stem? Why have that little piece of basebar in there at all?

They do, but I've never had a lot of confidence in the strength/stiffness of such a set-up.

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(Isn't it a bit weird having the brakes at asymmetric points on the bars?)

Not really, because:

1) I rode with Hooker bars (which are set up the same way, except that the left lever actuates the front brake and the right lever the rear) for years, and

2) I never used both brakes at once. If I wanted/needed to stop, I would sit up and use the front brake activated by the lever under the elbow pad - the rear brake was just there for show/emergencies.

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Re: New Aero Brakes [jeremyb] [ In reply to ]
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I would love to see the pics, but they have to be on the web somewhere.
Slowtwitch pulls the picture from a link, possibly to save server space. I had to upload the pics to a bogus page on the Simkins Designs website to post the prototype picture.

http://www.flickr.com/...s/72157622473081434/

Not to be a pill, but when you take others photos from flickr, you should really read the copyright that they attibute:

from: http://www.flickr.com/...t-72157617139735023/



Also, it is good form on flickr to request an image on flickr be added to a group instead of saving your own local copy and reposting it. There are a lot of other people's picture there from slowtwitch as well I notice.

Just sayin'

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Re: New Aero Brakes [Andrew Coggan] [ In reply to ]
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Where is your front shifter lever?

I really like your using the brake on the left hand- works a LOT better that way than the horrible "3rd brake" thing that i have tried...

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Re: New Aero Brakes [clyde_s_dale] [ In reply to ]
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Where is your front shifter lever?

The same place as my front derailleur, front shift cable, small chainring*, and four of the nine cogs: on my workbench. ;-)

(*Actually, that is not really true, since I was using a track crank...but I'm sure you get the picture.)
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Re: New Aero Brakes [Andrew Coggan] [ In reply to ]
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Where is your front shifter lever?

The same place as my ...: on my workbench. ;-)


where they are most aero ;)

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Re: New Aero Brakes [Andrew Coggan] [ In reply to ]
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Ok i get the "no small chainring" assuming that is a "Flat course only" bike

but why take out rear cogs? how do you keep from shifting off the end of your reduced cogset?

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Re: New Aero Brakes [gregclimbs] [ In reply to ]
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Where is your front shifter lever?

The same place as my ...: on my workbench. ;-)


where they are most aero ;)
And their lightest.
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Re: New Aero Brakes [gregclimbs] [ In reply to ]
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I would love to see the pics, but they have to be on the web somewhere.
Slowtwitch pulls the picture from a link, possibly to save server space. I had to upload the pics to a bogus page on the Simkins Designs website to post the prototype picture.

http://www.flickr.com/...s/72157622473081434/

Not to be a pill, but when you take others photos from flickr, you should really read the copyright that they attibute:

from: http://www.flickr.com/...t-72157617139735023/



Also, it is good form on flickr to request an image on flickr be added to a group instead of saving your own local copy and reposting it. There are a lot of other people's picture there from slowtwitch as well I notice.

Just sayin'

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You're right, I deleted it.

I didnt think any slowtwitch photos were copyrighted though. Plus its not like I was selling them or anything----just aggregating into something useful-----guess they'll stay in my iphoto gallery.

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Re: New Aero Brakes [jeremyb] [ In reply to ]
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just send me a request for the pic via flickr to add it to the group...

then the image is still my image and you get it in your group. win win for everyone.

whenever I post a pic from my flickr account, i include a link to the image page (as it the flickr agreement). the copyright is that of the holders, not slowtwitch.

I am not angry, just prefer that credit is given where credit is due.

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Re: New Aero Brakes [Andrew Coggan] [ In reply to ]
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I don't do TTs (well a couple of local ones) but isn't the rear brake required (except track).

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Re: New Aero Brakes [docfuel] [ In reply to ]
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depends on if it is a USCF race, or otherwise
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Re: New Aero Brakes [Tom A.] [ In reply to ]
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Im not judging every center pull based on the ax I am judging them based on the ax, delta and oval used with carbon rims I have used them all and am not over confident in their stopping power Im not a small guy and want something that can bring 175 pounds plus 20 pounds of bike to a halt if needed.
I have been told that the TRP brake has less flex in it and works alot better than the oval and will be trying one out next week( I will post my thoughts when tested going to give some swisstop yellows a try too).
This thread seems to be getting abit sidetracked again.

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Re: New Aero Brakes [m@tty] [ In reply to ]
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Interesting post - it seems my poor effort at metalwork many years ago has finally caught up with me.

Can anybody tell me where you can buy these Hooker brakes, I can't seem to find anywhere online?

Much appreciated and many thanks in advance.

Søren
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Re: New Aero Brakes [AndrewMarvel] [ In reply to ]
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You cant. They have not been produced in many years. You can sometimes find them on ebay, maybe once or twice a year.

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Re: New Aero Brakes [AndrewMarvel] [ In reply to ]
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Can anybody tell me where you can buy these Hooker brakes
I have one that I might be willing to sell - you can make me an offer at acoggan at earthlink dot net.
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Re: New Aero Brakes [jeremyb] [ In reply to ]
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Not very good with computers still cant get any on here
jeremyb I emailed you a pic of the TRP caliper for your collection
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Re: New Aero Brakes [m@tty] [ In reply to ]
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Still waiting for FSA headset with cable hanger but this is what I have come up with so far!
Im working on something completely different for rear caliper at the moment!

M@TTY
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Re: New Aero Brakes [m@tty] [ In reply to ]
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M@tty,

Is that the Oval front brake and what cable hanger did you use.

My P2k just arrived and while I wait to get it painted, I want to start sourcing a few items and this set up is what I really want to go towards,
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Re: New Aero Brakes [m@tty] [ In reply to ]
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Still waiting for FSA headset with cable hanger but this is what I have come up with so far!
Im working on something completely different for rear caliper at the moment!

M@TTY

That straddle cable hanger is HUGE! ;-)

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Re: New Aero Brakes [BMAN] [ In reply to ]
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Is that the Oval front brake and what cable hanger did you use.

My P2k just arrived and while I wait to get it painted, I want to start sourcing a few items and this set up is what I really want to go towards,
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Its the TRP T925 aero rear caliper fitted on the front with a longer bolt and a jagwire straddle carrier with 2 knarps (www.trpbrakes.com)
The TRP caliper is a bit beefier and the arms sit a little wider and it is suposed to have a bit more stopping power (will let you know when I have tried it)
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Re: New Aero Brakes [Tom A.] [ In reply to ]
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Still waiting for FSA headset with cable hanger but this is what I have come up with so far!
Im working on something completely different for rear caliper at the moment!

M@TTY


That straddle cable hanger is HUGE! ;-)
I am still playing around with this idea Its 1 1/4 inches at its widest point and with this set up I dont need a large cable stop at one side of the brake
I am waiting on a black one being delivered which will be trimmed down to 1 1/8 inches in width (I do think it looks much neater than some mods I have seen)
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Re: New Aero Brakes [m@tty] [ In reply to ]
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I have a set of these that I havent used yet, they are very very small.

http://cgi.ebay.com/...?hash=item3a53609bb1



EDIT: sorry these are just end clamps. My set has another hole drilled through it for the straddle cable and Brake cable.

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Re: New Aero Brakes [jeremyb] [ In reply to ]
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I have a set of these that I havent used yet, they are very very small.

http://cgi.ebay.com/...?hash=item3a53609bb1



EDIT: sorry these are just end clamps. My set has another hole drilled through it for the straddle cable and Brake cable.

I used a short piece of 1/4 inch OD copper tube. The straddle cable runs through the tube and the brake cable runs through holes drilled on each side of the tube wall at the midpoint with of course a cable stop installed. Not the most aesthetic but it works with low "A".
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