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While I haven't done the math here, I suspect the total energy change of the bike rider system is substantially higher than the energy change of the thighs alone, plus I submit such speed changes are impossible to see in real life, so I think you have missed something.
Help me out here. What have I missed?
What you are missing (and keep missing) is that you need to understand the basic, simplified solution before you start going and adding in the more "real world" conditions. Once you start adding in the aerodynamic loads (which vary with the square of the velocity), the frictional losses, and any small elastic member effects, THEN you'll start having a model that better matches your empirical observations and you'll better be able to understand the magnitudes of those effects. However, the math starts getting pretty messy fairly quickly...and based on your demonstrated lack of understanding some fundamental principles of physics, who's going to bother laying out the more complex case when you can't even grasp the simple, idealized case?
I didn't add in those aerodynamic conditions to attain equilibrium. The MMF model rquires zero frictional losses for the rider to go on forever. That would include air friction. I haven't demonstrated an lack of understanding of physics or thermodynamics. The MMF model that goes on forever is the one the require making or losing energy into thin air to make it work.
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So, again, in the simplified model, how would energy be removed from the system if it can't be removed as heat? Have you discovered a new form of energy? Shall we call it "Day Virtual Energy"? Until you understand that the energy of the system is conserved there's no point in going any further and adding in other non-idealized energy storage or transfer mechanisms. I'm not giving you any math until you come to that basic understanding.
As I told you, if the elements are perfectly rigid there is no way to remove the energy variations that are there (unless you can show that they are not). Therefore, you, by your advocacy for this model you are the one determined to ignore thermodynamic principles, not me.
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Stay with us here on the idealized system and stop trying to compare it to empirical observations just yet...especially since you keep trying to compare a driven case (your observations) to this undriven case. If you were to place a mannequin on a fixie and push it and let it go, you would see more speed variation through the pedal cycle than you observe with the driven case you describe (i.e. a rider on a track). Additionally, if we start adding in the changing KE of the lower legs and the rotational inertias of various constituents to the model above, do you think the speed variation requirement of the system would go up or down? Like I said before; Baby steps, baby steps...
I was only commenting on the case that was presented to me. It was clearly inadequate. I suppose you can do better. I am waiting. Make it simple on yourself, assume th rotational inertia of the wheels is zero. If you can come up with a solution that works there I presume you can come up with one when the roational inertia is greater than zero.
Oh, and, I don't see that much speed variation on the track, after the event is over and the riders are simply relaxing, trying to mimick mannequin status.
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BTW, did you catch your errors in your comparison of the thigh velocity vs. the system velocity above? edit: Besides the math errors, why are you comparing the tangential velocity of the thigh relative to the hip joint to the velocity of the entire bike (i.e. the tangential velocity of the crank through the gearing)?
I am not specifically comparing the tangential velocity of the thigh to the bike. What is important is the KE of the thigh. The tangential velocity is simply a method of expressing the KE because they are directly related.
The issue here is not whether I have made a math error in criticizing another post but whether you (or anyone else) can come up with a mathematical solution to the MMF problem that doesn't involve the magical creation or disappearance of energy to keep the energy of the system constant. I continue to patiently wait. It is a complicated problem, it will probably take some time (like forever, LOL).
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Frank,
An original Ironman and the Inventor of PowerCranks