A couple people interrupted me and said they don't mean T or HGH as that's not really doping, that's just what people need to be normal. As it turns out, I had painted myself into a corner when 9 of let's say 12 at the table admitted to using T as part of their "health program" on a regular basis.
Pellets, cream, pills, whatever. Were the other 3 just not admitting they too were doing it? I didn't know what to say, many of them people I knew pretty well. I'd say 8 or more had pinned on a number in the last year. It was pretty depressing.
The only other story I have is that over the last 5 years I've seen maybe one person per year make significant physical and ability changes within my circle in the local triathlon world. If it's a friend, I congratulate them on their progress, I then almost always ask about their changes to become leaner/faster. In all five instances it was followed with a,"Well, as a matter of fact, I went and got tested and it turns out this whole time I've had Low-T!!!"
Again, super depressing, I've kind of accepted it as the norm. -L
It's like the 90s in pro cycling. Everyone is juiced... because everyone else is doing it....
When guys in their 60s who have been racing for decades, are stronger than they've ever been... ya, that ain't right.