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Re: *Spoilers* 2021 Cycling Thread *Spoilers* [turdburgler] [ In reply to ]
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And Cav triples up, Kirby barely holds it together !! Bad crash into barriers behind front of race but that was a huge group heading into finale

Lefevere is probably orgasmic now
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Re: *Spoilers* 2021 Cycling Thread *Spoilers* [heyMartin] [ In reply to ]
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Kirby and Lefevre together need to be medically monitored for cardiac issues. Cav has looked good against a weaker field; I'm not even convinced he is the strongest sprinter there, but what he is displaying is experience and PATIENCE. He hasn't overreacted once. Hopefully everyone is safe after that crash. It looked bad all around.
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Re: *Spoilers* 2021 Cycling Thread *Spoilers* [turdburgler] [ In reply to ]
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I agree that it's a weak filed, and I am not sure that cav will win anything when he goes up against the big boys.
But still 3 wins in a row is still something.

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Re: *Spoilers* 2021 Cycling Thread *Spoilers* [trener1] [ In reply to ]
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The only way he wins a proper race is if its something like the Binck Bank Tour. He just isn't going to get the chances to even ride most big races. Maybe the Vuelta if he is selected and can make it over the climbs?
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Re: *Spoilers* 2021 Cycling Thread *Spoilers* [turdburgler] [ In reply to ]
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Cav is putting on a sprinting seminar this week. Lot of jockeying for position but he nailed it again.

Seemed he didn’t really celebrate and was concerned about Jakobsen’s well-being with the crash. I did DK a couple years ago with Noah Granigan, who was among riders that went to hospital. Hope he and everyone else is ok.
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Re: *Spoilers* 2021 Cycling Thread *Spoilers* [trener1] [ In reply to ]
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trener1 wrote:
I agree that it's a weak filed, and I am not sure that cav will win anything when he goes up against the big boys.
But still 3 wins in a row is still something.

And beating Philipsen three days in a row is impressive. He had great positioning, moved guys around. And the past two made Philipsen a bit eager, looked like he went too early.
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Re: *Spoilers* 2021 Cycling Thread *Spoilers* [WannaB] [ In reply to ]
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Getting a bit stronger every day. Historically I've always had an L/R balance of 49/51. We are trending back in the right direction. It was even worse than this a few weeks ago.
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Re: *Spoilers* 2021 Cycling Thread *Spoilers* [Carl Spackler] [ In reply to ]
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Man, some bad crashes today - Brabantse Pijl too.
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Re: *Spoilers* 2021 Cycling Thread *Spoilers* [trail] [ In reply to ]
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Carnage everywhere. Lot of power in this front group but wonder if it will stall out.
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Re: *Spoilers* 2021 Cycling Thread *Spoilers* [Carl Spackler] [ In reply to ]
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Looking forward to seeing Pidcock's sprint
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Re: *Spoilers* 2021 Cycling Thread *Spoilers* [WannaB] [ In reply to ]
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Come on Toms!
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Re: *Spoilers* 2021 Cycling Thread *Spoilers* [WannaB] [ In reply to ]
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That was my thought, what is P Diddy's play in this group? He is seriously outgunned on a pure power basis is he not?

ETA: Well...

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Re: *Spoilers* 2021 Cycling Thread *Spoilers* [Sulliesbrew] [ In reply to ]
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Sulliesbrew wrote:
That was my thought, what is P Diddy's play in this group? He is seriously outgunned on a pure power basis is he not?


Guess not! WvA went way early, though. I didn't think the chasers were much threat.
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Re: *Spoilers* 2021 Cycling Thread *Spoilers* [WannaB] [ In reply to ]
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It looked pretty solid.
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Re: *Spoilers* 2021 Cycling Thread *Spoilers* [Sulliesbrew] [ In reply to ]
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The Cockster!

Carlton Kirby is quivering with delight.
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Re: *Spoilers* 2021 Cycling Thread *Spoilers* [trail] [ In reply to ]
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Way too early, I am guessing he got nervous from the chasers? Them cross boys are putting a hurt on the pure roadie field.

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Re: *Spoilers* 2021 Cycling Thread *Spoilers* [trail] [ In reply to ]
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WvA went way early, though. I didn't think the chasers were much threat.

Awesome. And even more impressive to not panic and let Wout jump.
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Re: *Spoilers* 2021 Cycling Thread *Spoilers* [trail] [ In reply to ]
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trail wrote:
Sulliesbrew wrote:
That was my thought, what is P Diddy's play in this group? He is seriously outgunned on a pure power basis is he not?


Guess not! WvA went way early, though. I didn't think the chasers were much threat.

At first glance, didn't seem like it (I think he went with 175 m to go), but on second thought, probably a long way out after having just climbed a hill to the finish.

Looks like they changed the course lay-out, too.
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Re: *Spoilers* 2021 Cycling Thread *Spoilers* [echappist] [ In reply to ]
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Well there's no question Demi Vollering was too early. :) Could have made it two breakthrough races by newer pros.
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Re: *Spoilers* 2021 Cycling Thread *Spoilers* [trail] [ In reply to ]
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Well there's no question Demi Vollering was too early. :) Could have made it two breakthrough races by newer pros.


As if we needed another reminder why it's important to celebrate only after having crossed the line
Vollering came through with a lot of speed (the smaller dimensions of her bike is a giveaway for that), but Winders just nicked it, by the tightest of margins. Winders' bike throw didn't look all that great at first glance, but it did the job.

That said, it really is hard to fault Vollering. It wasn't full on Alaphilippe.

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Re: *Spoilers* 2021 Cycling Thread *Spoilers* [echappist] [ In reply to ]
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echappist wrote:
trail wrote:
Well there's no question Demi Vollering was too early. :) Could have made it two breakthrough races by newer pros.


As if we needed another reminder why it's important to celebrate only after having crossed the line
Vollering came through with a lot of speed (the smaller dimensions of her bike is a giveaway for that), but Winders just nicked it, by the tightest of margins. Winders' bike throw didn't look all that great at first glance, but it did the job.

That said, it really is hard to fault Vollering. It wasn't full on Alaphilippe.


Damn. I'll be honest, I didn't realize Ruth W even won. I turned it off after the finish.

By the way I love the Merican kit. Very very cool and its nice to see the team let them display it proudly. Right up there on full display with Colombia and France national champs kit.

Speaking of champs, I saw some of the guys and gals in the center today for VO2 testing. Super interesting and unexpected both with below and above expected values you think you'd see from professional riders. It is just another Cav affirmation; insane lab numbers don't necessarily translate in to real world success. The most prolific rider tested today, had a fairly "mediocre" test. (He is still a HUGE outlier compared to a normal athlete).
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Re: *Spoilers* 2021 Cycling Thread *Spoilers* [turdburgler] [ In reply to ]
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turdburgler wrote:
echappist wrote:
trail wrote:
Well there's no question Demi Vollering was too early. :) Could have made it two breakthrough races by newer pros.


As if we needed another reminder why it's important to celebrate only after having crossed the line
Vollering came through with a lot of speed (the smaller dimensions of her bike is a giveaway for that), but Winders just nicked it, by the tightest of margins. Winders' bike throw didn't look all that great at first glance, but it did the job.

That said, it really is hard to fault Vollering. It wasn't full on Alaphilippe.



Damn. I'll be honest, I didn't realize Ruth W even won. I turned it off after the finish.

By the way I love the Merican kit. Very very cool and its nice to see the team let them display it proudly. Right up there on full display with Colombia and France national champs kit.

Speaking of champs, I saw some of the guys and gals in the center today for VO2 testing. Super interesting and unexpected both with below and above expected values you think you'd see from professional riders. It is just another Cav affirmation; insane lab numbers don't necessarily translate in to real world success. The most prolific rider tested today, had a fairly "mediocre" test. (He is still a HUGE outlier compared to a normal athlete).

This post is a total tease. At least let us know what the range of VO2 max values would be. Are there any male pros in the low 60s? Can you make a living in the 50s or is it all 70+?

In other semi-cav related news. I looked at the Tour of Turkey results today and while there may be a bit of sprinting talent, it definitely looks like a B-team race. Pretty much nothing but Pro Continental riders in the top 10 on today’s climbing stage.

Demare and FdJ crushed everyone in the sprint at the other big race today where they had a wide, flat and open run into the line. It reminded me of a Pettachi sprint with a full train for FdJ at the 1k banner and Ewan et al. Had nothing.
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Re: *Spoilers* 2021 Cycling Thread *Spoilers* [grumpier.mike] [ In reply to ]
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In other semi-cav related news. I looked at the Tour of Turkey results today and while there may be a bit of sprinting talent, it definitely looks like a B-team race. Pretty much nothing but Pro Continental riders in the top 10 on today’s climbing stage.

I feel for the Danish guy (Charming Charmig) who attacked with like 1.5k to go. You could watch him just unravel physically and mentally in gruesome slow motion.

Over in Spain was fun seeing Robin Carpenter out in front all day (have ridden with him a bit (social rides)).
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Re: *Spoilers* 2021 Cycling Thread *Spoilers* [trail] [ In reply to ]
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trail wrote:
grumpier.mike wrote:

In other semi-cav related news. I looked at the Tour of Turkey results today and while there may be a bit of sprinting talent, it definitely looks like a B-team race. Pretty much nothing but Pro Continental riders in the top 10 on today’s climbing stage.


I feel for the Danish guy (Charming Charmig) who attacked with like 1.5k to go. You could watch him just unravel physically and mentally in gruesome slow motion.

Over in Spain was fun seeing Robin Carpenter out in front all day (have ridden with him a bit (social rides)).

Gavin Mannion lives in town to I am obligated to be a Rally fan. It was great to see them get the win with Arvid and I was rooting for Carpenter.
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