Rappstar wrote:
peterot wrote:
Stockhouse is full of people doing illegal things. It is a dirty dirty forum but really useful if you are into trading stocks, particularly day trading. Even biggest scum bags provide valuable information. That is my point. All info provided is useful in some way to someone. If it is illegal it can be dealt with by the proper authorities.
I disagree with your analogy, and I hope my explanation might provide some insight about why we choose to moderate the way we do.
Generally, if you want to make use of the information on a forum like Stockhouse, it's your own money that you're risking. A forum like Stockhouse is sort of the ultimate expression of "publicly available information being taken into consideration in the price of a security." Personally, I think it's also part of the reason why volatility indices have gotten so f'ed up in recent years, and why valuation of a lot of things - especially commodities, which really ought to have a more "rational" value - is so insane. But that's more Lavender Room territory.
But, generally, there's a pretty objective to evaluate past predictive performance. And, further, the risk is shouldered by you as the investor that chooses to make use - or not - of the information you find on stockhouse. YOUR money is on the line.
In the case of trial by internet here, it's rarely - if ever - your money (or even your reputation) that's on the line. It's that of a race, or a race director, or an athlete, or bike company, etc. There's no real skin in the game. Your race experience is not substantially affected by whether another participant cheated. So even if the information is accurate, it's still not necessarily "useful" to most people other than in a strictly voyeuristic way. Yes, you want to know if someone cheated. But you don't really derive any actual value from knowing it.
Moderating a forum like Stockhouse is necessarily impossible, because in order for it to function in a reasonably fair way, you basically have to allow everything. It's not fair to delete a post that says, "I'm short on XYZ you ignorant motherfucker," while leaving a post that says, "I'm long on XYZ. Have a nice day." But that same logic doesn't apply here. Decorum does matter here. Truth does matter here. We're not going to allow trial by internet because there's not necessarily a corresponding "free market" to actually sort things out in "the real world."
Stockhouse doesn't censor stuff because you are most likely to screw yourself based on bad information there. We do censor stuff because you are most likely to screw someone else based on bad information here. That's why, for example, this post is not being censored (yet; if it is, it will ONLY be because it becomes a re-hash of the Chicago threads, as often happens). Though I think you might have been better off posting it here -
http://forum.slowtwitch.com/...post=1566945#1566945Do you actually beleive the BS you spew sometimes "Decorum does matter here" - funny "Truth does matter here" - if this was the case you wouldnt censor so much. censorship often results in untruth. there are instances where censorship is required but sure as hell not on a triathlon forum. THe bottomline for you guys is the financial bottomline. You dont care about truth and decorum (what bs) you care about traffic and keeping industry folks happy so they dont cut ads and drive traffic elsewhere. This site is a communication tool second and money maker first which is unfortunate as the forum is the best part of the entire site, which has been pointed out to you on numerous occasions recently. People avoid homepage all together to come directly to a forum that is being censored to the point where only warm and fuzzy stuff is given approval. Your rampant censorship is opening the door for another forum to takeover. I am not debating whether Slowman has the right to censor or if it is his property. He does not own the discussion, opinions, and ideas being written. I would just like to see less (no) censorship on the forum. The shit being censored is such a joke, particularly the most recent examples i noted. You comparison of the differences between Stockhouse and Slowtwitch shows your inexpereince with stockhouse.
A forum like Stockhouse is sort of the ultimate expression of "publicly available information being taken into consideration in the price of a security." - the info on stockhouse is so much more, the info being share goes beyond the public realm, insider info is posted regularly, ceos comment, IR people are present, the emotion of the forum on big news, rumour or extreme market conditions, and the pump and dump scemes going on. The info that can be teased out of stockhouse is good stuff. Discussion are allowed to go in all directions. I would suggest you spend some time there as it will provide you with an example of a forum that has energy, knowledgable people, real uncensored info, usefulness. Again, there have been numerous posts regarding the lack of energy or interesting post on slowtwitch, censorship has likely contributed to this. You guys are killing something good. in other forums outside of slowtwitch to know that this forum is dying a slow death and that it is lacking big time, particularly in the regard to the censorship, parameters put on discussion, etc. Just my opinion.
To everyone else, it is probably time to get off your knees and let Slowman and other mods. get back to censoring this forum.
