well, i don't live in teh USA, so there is that. :)

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Yes, there have been numerous DUI arrests for people riding bicycles while under the influence of alcohol. There have also been DUI arrests for people riding lawn mowers, golf carts and riding horses.

The real question is could a competitor get busted for having an open container if he or she did have whiskey in their BTA bottle :-D

My 2 cents:

• I find it very hard to believe Anderson was completely naive in this process. Considering her profession and her competitive nature evidenced by her race results history, the thought of "perhaps what I am putting in my body might be a prohibited" had to have at least crossed her mind. This, of course, is pure speculation on my part.
• The ignorance of the law and the "there is no competitive advantage from my perspective" arguments have grown tiresome.
• I think USADA did a great job here. Anderson violated the rules and was caught. The reduction from a 2-year ban to a 1-year ban seems fair considering the facts and circumstances. Anderson's case will hopefully serve as a warning to others and the need for others to educate themselves.
• If Anderson or anyone else wishes to challenge USADA's classification of DHEA as a "substance in the class of Anabolic Agents prohibited under the USADA Protocol for Olympic and Paralympic Movement Testing and the International Association of Athletics Federations (“IAAF”) Anti-Doping Rules," go for it.
• Pike's Peak Marathon is part of the "World Mountain Running Association" (WMRA). The WMRA "comes under the umbrella of IAAF (IAAF Constitution Rule 1)," which means "in all aspects of the WMRA life (and especially during the WMRA events), all IAAF and WADA Rules and Regulations must be respected.." These phrases are posted on their respective websites, which leads me to believe that this race is rather competitive, regardless of the number of entrants. Of course, there are also money prizes involved, which is an incentive for someone to cheat (not that incentives are necessary in all cases), where testing seems warranted.
• USADA has an office in Colorado Springs, which just so happens to be 9 miles away from where the race expo tent is located. I'm guessing someone tipped off USADA, where due to the proximity it was not cost prohibitive to test and bust Anderson for her violation of the rules.
• I wasted way too much time and effort researching and analyzing this matter to provide my two cents.

Mexico right? And yes I'm jealous that you live in Cozumel... But none the less.

http://www.triatlon.com.mx/reglamento_2.html

Specifically.

2. Use of banned substances

a) La FMTRI sanciona el uso de sustancias que artificialmente incrementan el rendimiento. a) The FMTRI sanctions the use of substances that artificially increase performance. Los competidores eguirán las reglas de dopaje de la ITU (Unión Internacional de Triatlón) ITU DOPING RULES. Competitors eguirán doping rules ITU (International Triathlon Union) ITU DOPING RULES.

b) Todos los competidores serán responsables de informarse y familiarizarse con las reglas de Dopaje de la ITU, incluyendo exámenes médicos de control, obligaciones y procedimientos, castigos y procesos de apelación, así como conocer las sustancias consideradas prohibidas http://www.wada-ama.org/en/ b) All competitors will be responsible to learn and become familiar with the rules of the ITU Doping, including medical screening tests, obligations and procedures, penalties and appeal processes, and know the substances to be banned http: //www.wada -ama.org/en/

c) La FMTRI tendrá la facultad de realizar pruebas de antidoping en todo momento, apegado a los lineamientos nacionales e internacionales. c) The FMTRI have the power to conduct doping tests at all times, attached to national and international guidelines.

Translated by Bing (because ironically the paste job above was what I saw as english text in Google Translate):

2. Use of banned substances

a) The FMTRI sanctions the use of substances that artificially increase performance. Competitors eguirán doping rules ITU (International Triathlon Union) ITU DOPING RULES.

b) All competitors will be responsible to learn and become familiar with the rules of the ITU Doping, including medical screening tests, obligations and procedures, penalties and appeal processes, and know the substances to be banned http://www.wada-ama.org/en/

c) The FMTRI have the power to conduct doping tests at all times, attached to national and international guidelines.

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i don't disagree that the FMTRI and USwhateverbody have antidoping standards. In my op i was simply pointing out that it is easy to not even consider that an herbal product you buy at Costco for menopause could have something that you need to check wtih WADA about. i was simply pointing out that it can be very easy to not even consider that you have a banned substance because you don't equate getting vitamins at Costco with doping.

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I would hope anyone going through menopause is not 20 and therefore actually old enough to take responsibility for their actions and also be intelligent enough to research anything they are putting in their body. That includes checking it see if the ingredients are possibly on a banned listed if they happen to participate in a sport. Heck before my first sprint ever years ago with no experience at all and no chance of even doing (ended up 5th in AG go figure) I still checked every single medication I was on. In most cases if you checked the ingredients even on a Wikipedia page it will probably have information linking you to something related to showing where it is banned and why.

While you like everyone is entitled to their opinion, not all opinions are actually good ones, this is one of those times.

That's BS, a good horse week get you back to its stable by itself.

And yet you didn't take the time to read the numerous posts in this very thread that explain how and why drug testing was conducted at this race.

Wrong answer kimosabe:
http://www.cbsnews.com/...e-alcohol-violation/

That line of reasoning works for the average Joe who walks into the local GNC or even your average fun run or tri for fun person. For anybody who is even remotely serious about their sport it is willful ignorance. For somebody who is winning and or placing either overall or in their age group there is just no excuse. The only appropriate response to somebody at that level getting popped is a) I did it and I'm sorry. b) I monitor what I take, it must have been a contaminated supplement, but I understand that the responsibility still lies with me. c) lie like a rug.

Seriously, who does any of us know that is even remotely serious about their sport who hasn't heard of somebody getting popped and then heard all of the lame excuses. How can somebody hear those stories and STILL not even consider that supplements might be contaminated or might having listed ingredients and are illegal or not even think twice about prescribed medicines?

I was 11 in 1972 when Rick DeMont was stripped of his gold medal in swimming for an asthma medication that he took. He had told the USOC which medications he took and they mistakenly told him that they were okay. They were wrong and he lost his gold medal.

http://espn.go.com/...01/0202/1057642.html

My point being that even as an 11 year old I had occasion to become aware of how even prescribed medicines could be considered doping products. ELEVEN. I have no sympathy for a 51 year old woman who competes at a high level for not making herself aware and responsible for what she puts in her body. Zero.

Whether she was activing cheating, trying to illegally take advantage I don't know and don't really care. Athletes have a choice. Take the time to learn what is okay or not or take the time to write your blog post after you test positive where you blame everybody else but yourself.

I've taken the time to learn what is okay and what isn't and I expect my competitors to do so too.

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Well said Kevin,

As you say if you are looking at top 10 OA runner or a Kona Q or perhaps a top level AG/masters cyclist, there really isn't any excuse. I am struggling a bit with the emotional context of some of the responses. To me it appears very black and white, she raced, fucked up (whether intentional or inadvertently) got busted and received a ban….end of story.

She is also playing the victim, when it appears she was afforded a certain amount of leniency for her actions (ban cut in half)

Maurice

All I am saying is that Silken got busted fair and square. It was most likely a mistake, but there is a reason it was banned in the first place (and as some pointed out, the thresholds subsequently raised so she would be fine today, but not back in 95). Silken got really lucky being a golden girl in a sport that was not viewed at the time as being dirty (we're talking 7 years post Dubin inquiry). If Silken was a Canadian track athlete I am certain that the sanction would be stiffer at that time given the recent history. That's just 1 person's opinion and certainly not a fact of any kind. If she was a synchro swimmer, or downhill skier same deal. If she was a weight lifter, wrestler that no one knew of, It would be the full suspension. She was able the leverage her status, her sport and her pedigree to get some leniancy...again, just my opinion on the events of the time.

As for the topic of HRT for women, if the current rule sucks it needs to be modified, but until it is changed Kristi was busted fair and sqaure and if the DHEA allowed her to feel like a 42 year old rather than 51, then maybe that's exactly what WADA does not want. WADA does not want old men nor women on hormone replacement therapy beating young people because young people will use this stuff to beat other young people....so they just ban it all...it is imperfect fpr sure, but where do you draw the line?

It is not hard not to dope.
Her excuses are quite bad. http://masterstrack.com/2014/12/33461/

These days you can have the WADA list as an app on your phone. It is easy to ask your MD about the name of the medication.

My guess is doping for athletes over 40 will increase and many will use the "I got it from my MD" excuse.

Just like Moats did?

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Dev gets really close to it here. To anyone who thinks this is a bad bust, please show where you're working to change the rules. The way i see it, the rules are what they are and she broke them. circumstances be damned.

now, i think a lot of these rules are crap. does anyone want to join me in the letter writing campaign?
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Great response.

To Kathy, this entire topic is about pointy end competition. You, I or anyone is more than welcome to take WADA banned substances for general health (directed by our GP etc) but then we relinquish the privilege to race. We can't have our cake and eat it too. You are welcome to go on HRT and not compete or not take HRT and compete. I know the world is not fair, but it they let you or I to take HRT to compete because we are older, where do you draw the line? I fully sympathize with your scenario as there are many women friends and family going through menopause/pre menopause etc....however that does not give them carte blanche to take banned substances and compete...they get to choose one or the other. If this is discrimination against older women (which it likely is), then something needs to be worked out with WADA. Can a TUE be applied for exceptional case use of DHEA? I assume the answer SHOULD be yes.

Were you aware of the TUE process going into the race?
I have never heard of the TUE process. I’m not an elite runner; I’m a middle-aged mom and business owner who loves to run in the mountains.

LOL

I get the feeling that most of the people here have never done a trail running race. They are casual. It is not like triathlon where promoters go out of their way to cater to the fantasies of middle aged Walter Mittys who like to pretend that they are elite. It may come as a surprise that ordinary people who don't have delusions of being pros in another life don't pay attention doping and would be surprised that OTC products are banned.

Yet another utterly incorrect and diversionary comment from Arch.

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"She enjoys competitive running" (her own quote) and is a PT and races hard for podium spots. No fool brother. 2 x LOL. Probably has an albuterol inhaler too for her light cough due to ragweed.

The last MTB race I did, dudes were smoking weed and/or poping nodoze before the race. Silver Rush 50 BTW. So when you say casual you mean less likely to take something?

Casual != $16,000 plus bonuses in prize money.

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just so. it's easy to run in the mountains on your own, without entering a race.. I do it all the time.. Kristi can still run in the mountains, just can't race while doping. Seems an open-and-shut case to me..

Can we revisit the possibility of an elite division and a recreational division in triathlon? I know we've discussed it previously on a few occasions but this seems like a good opportunity. Considering a large percentage of people in triathlon a participants rather than competitors, do we really want to exclude them?

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Yes, the rules are crap but the crappy rules are overruled by the crappy indifference of thousands, or worse, the large number of people who would give a non-responsive publicly funded agency unfettered control over their sporting lives. If you aren't part of the solution, you are part of the problem. USADA and WADA are way out of control, but no one cares. Congress certainly does less oversight than my local police over traffic (which is almost non-existent).

Good luck finding a way to influence USADA. I wrote to my Senator and he wrote back to say he felt we needed an organization like USADA, without addressing any of my concerns. The Senator's dead now, but the USADA lives on.

We should not be spending taxpayers' money to ensure the bourgeois ideal of clean competition for amateur athletes, except possibly Olympic athletes. Do you think the rich are cheating? Do you think people in the ghetto are cheating? And most of the bourgeois are cheating as well. We have a well-developed system of cheating in this country. If you want to stop cheating, then each individual must address his own failings first, but to spend government money to ensure that some triathlete gets his Kona slot is absurd. On this issue I am libertarian, but believe we should be using that money for something much more meaningful, even if it means a few thousand undocumented immigrants get vaccinated, for instance. We really have our priorities screwed up.... DHEA has no ergogenic value. NONE. De natha. There is no justification for it being on the list, and the history of asthma meds, including a USA swimmer losing gold because of a rule that has since been finally changed by an out of control Puritanical drug agency is mind numbing.

I cannot believe people in a supposedly free country actually support such nonsense.

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