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Re: Kona 2019 Race Day Thread [NAB777]
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Re: Kona 2019 Race Day Thread [PJC]
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Being a countrymen of JF I gotta say what he said in German sounded dead serious.
That was not taking the piss out of AB but sounded like being super annoyed by his behaviour Like someone else already pointed out further above.
That was not taking the piss out of AB but sounded like being super annoyed by his behaviour Like someone else already pointed out further above.
Re: Kona 2019 Race Day Thread [trisomemari]
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trisomemari wrote:
Being a countrymen of JF I gotta say what he said in German sounded dead serious. That was not taking the piss out of AB but sounded like being super annoyed by his behaviour Like someone else already pointed out further above.
Thanks, you articulated it much better than me.
Re: Kona 2019 Race Day Thread [Allan]
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Allan wrote:
I heard that the Frodeno-Brownlee thing goes back to their ITU racing days. Brownlees had a reputation for yelling at people in the pack to take pulls and were taunting Jan with something along the lines of common Olympic champ get your butt up here and do your share …. not sure if this can be confirmed thoughThis is more or less true. AB and JB came into ITU in 2009/10 and kinda put the old guard at the time out of business. This included JF who was gone within 3/4 years. But I think the way they did it, through what could be politely discribed as typical alpha male behavior has always rubbed people up the wrong way.
What looked to have happened post race doesnt really surprise me as its not the first time AB has done or said stuff like this.
It'll be interesting moving forward as we might not get much time to fully see this rivalry flourish like in the ITU days. JF's performances at his age never cease to amaze me but there can't be too many more years at this level. AB I think has a steep learning curve which is gonna take time and full commitment to Iron distance if he wants to conquer Kona and JF.
Re: Kona 2019 Race Day Thread [trisomemari]
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trisomemari wrote:
Being a countrymen of JF I gotta say what he said in German sounded dead serious. That was not taking the piss out of AB but sounded like being super annoyed by his behaviour Like someone else already pointed out further above.
Well brownlee was inside the draft zone ALOT.
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Re: Kona 2019 Race Day Thread [PJC]
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and with AB behaviour I didn‘t mean him being or not being in the draftzone but what can be seen in the short youtube clip posted above.
Re: Kona 2019 Race Day Thread [PJC]
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Definitely didn't sound like Frodo was seeing it as a piss take. He calls him a jerk and says they never got along well and probably never will.
Re: Kona 2019 Race Day Thread [bluefever]
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bluefever wrote:
trisomemari wrote:
Being a countrymen of JF I gotta say what he said in German sounded dead serious. That was not taking the piss out of AB but sounded like being super annoyed by his behaviour Like someone else already pointed out further above.
Thanks, you articulated it much better than me.
I recently moved to Germany and my German is still pretty pathetic (I'll catch 20-30% of conversations) but... just to reinforce what the above posters have already said... the commentator didn't view it as a piss-take either.
Re: Kona 2019 Race Day Thread [trois_pample]
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You dont need the volume on to see that jan went from wtf? to finding it funny in a split second
Guessing he didnt think the same of the "some walk when they cant win but i kept running to 9th and honor the sport"... No handshakes there
Guessing he didnt think the same of the "some walk when they cant win but i kept running to 9th and honor the sport"... No handshakes there
Re: Kona 2019 Race Day Thread [PJC]
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PJC wrote:
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And what happened?He shoved him basically. It was odd. My quote is slightly wrong seeing it back - Jan actually said 'he's always been a bum' (Penner).
You guys are so serious you can’t tell when people are taking the piss.https://youtu.be/l7DN8OhfJeo[/quote[/url]]
This is possibly a culture difference thing. I suspect being part German and sortof South African, physical contact games like the type you can imagine Jonny and Alistair doing a lot at home, probably doesn't sit well with Frodo. Wet willy's that sort of thing.
What I would add is that Brownlee is a fierce competitor. He wants to win. And will always push a little to see if he can upset his competitors rhythm. The fact that JF reacted negatively, (instead of laughing it off) will only mean AB will push a little more in future.
Re: Kona 2019 Race Day Thread [Race1]
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Race1 wrote:
PJC wrote:
bluefever wrote:
B_Doughtie wrote:
And what happened?He shoved him basically. It was odd. My quote is slightly wrong seeing it back - Jan actually said 'he's always been a bum' (Penner).
You guys are so serious you can’t tell when people are taking the piss.[/quote[/url]]
This is possibly a culture difference thing. I suspect being part German and sortof South African, physical contact games like the type you can imagine Jonny and Alistair doing a lot at home, probably doesn't sit well with Frodo. Wet willy's that sort of thing.
What I would add is that Brownlee is a fierce competitor. He wants to win. And will always push a little to see if he can upset his competitors rhythm. The fact that JF reacted negatively, (instead of laughing it off) will only mean AB will push a little more in future.
have you seen the clip?
ali brushed him and jan laughed.
this is one of the stupidest non-events in a long time.
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Re: Kona 2019 Race Day Thread [Jackets]
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Ali Brownlee is without doubt the best male short course/ITU triathlete ever, and as has been said was head and shoulders above Frodeno. He won’t however dominate IM, I just don’t see it. If he ditches the idea of Tokyo he will come back fitter and faster (injuries permitting) and 2020 could be epic.
Re: Kona 2019 Race Day Thread [Joss1965]
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How about The Sergio?!?! Top OA age grouper. Looked solid out there
Re: Kona 2019 Race Day Thread [Joss1965]
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Sounds like Ali was pissed off that Frodo and TO didn't wait for him when he changed wheels and was bitching at Frodo when he caught up again. Frodo said he thought "great news - you only behave like that when you're at the limit" when Ali was moaning at him.
Re: Kona 2019 Race Day Thread [iron_mike]
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it didn't look like anything more than a "good job" type of contact...
he wasn't going to stop the interview to say that...
nothing to see here, imo...
great job by jf....
he wasn't going to stop the interview to say that...
nothing to see here, imo...
great job by jf....
Re: Kona 2019 Race Day Thread [d00d]
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d00d wrote:
it didn't look like anything more than a "good job" type of contact... he wasn't going to stop the interview to say that...
nothing to see here, imo...
great job by jf....
Nah - I disagree. If it had been like that he would have given him a high 5 and a smile or some appreciation after bumping into him. Unfortunately can't see Ali after he bumped into Frodo.
I can see some Macca vs Stadler style rivalry here, if they both continue with Ironman.
Re: Kona 2019 Race Day Thread [Hoffmeister]
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Nah - I disagree. If it had been like that he would have given him a high 5 and a smile or some appreciation after bumping into him.
I’m guessing from this that you’ve not got much experience with the North of England... Yorkshiremen don’t do high 5s and smiling is generally frowned upon.
Re: Kona 2019 Race Day Thread [RobK]
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Hoffmeister wrote:
Nah - I disagree. If it had been like that he would have given him a high 5 and a smile or some appreciation after bumping into him.
I’m guessing from this that you’ve not got much experience with the North of England... Yorkshiremen don’t do high 5s and smiling is generally frowned upon.
Actually I do have a bunch of guys from the North that I work closely with. I find them quite funny and affable. Now if you tell me they're tight as can be, that I believe.
Re: Kona 2019 Race Day Thread [Hoffmeister]
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Hoffmeister wrote:
RobK wrote:
Hoffmeister wrote:
Nah - I disagree. If it had been like that he would have given him a high 5 and a smile or some appreciation after bumping into him.
I’m guessing from this that you’ve not got much experience with the North of England... Yorkshiremen don’t do high 5s and smiling is generally frowned upon.
Actually I do have a bunch of guys from the North that I work closely with. I find them quite funny and affable. Now if you tell me they're tight as can be, that I believe.
Yorkshire man here. That was a friendly ‘good job wanker’ shoulder bump.
Re: Kona 2019 Race Day Thread [pjohn]
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Yeah, I wondered if anyone else noticed! Great race for The Sergio!
Re: Kona 2019 Race Day Thread [Poldarn]
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Poldarn wrote:
Hoffmeister wrote:
RobK wrote:
Hoffmeister wrote:
Nah - I disagree. If it had been like that he would have given him a high 5 and a smile or some appreciation after bumping into him.
I’m guessing from this that you’ve not got much experience with the North of England... Yorkshiremen don’t do high 5s and smiling is generally frowned upon.
Actually I do have a bunch of guys from the North that I work closely with. I find them quite funny and affable. Now if you tell me they're tight as can be, that I believe.
Yorkshire man here. That was a friendly ‘good job wanker’ shoulder bump.
Haha fair enough - a head butt would be the highest form of praise in Yorkshire then I suppose?
Re: Kona 2019 Race Day Thread [Hoffmeister]
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Hoffmeister wrote:
Poldarn wrote:
Hoffmeister wrote:
RobK wrote:
Hoffmeister wrote:
Nah - I disagree. If it had been like that he would have given him a high 5 and a smile or some appreciation after bumping into him.
I’m guessing from this that you’ve not got much experience with the North of England... Yorkshiremen don’t do high 5s and smiling is generally frowned upon.
Actually I do have a bunch of guys from the North that I work closely with. I find them quite funny and affable. Now if you tell me they're tight as can be, that I believe.
Yorkshire man here. That was a friendly ‘good job wanker’ shoulder bump.
Haha fair enough - a head butt would be the highest form of praise in Yorkshire then I suppose?
it's called a "Liverpool kiss"
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Re: Kona 2019 Race Day Thread [iron_mike]
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iron_mike wrote:
Hoffmeister wrote:
Poldarn wrote:
Hoffmeister wrote:
RobK wrote:
Hoffmeister wrote:
Nah - I disagree. If it had been like that he would have given him a high 5 and a smile or some appreciation after bumping into him.
I’m guessing from this that you’ve not got much experience with the North of England... Yorkshiremen don’t do high 5s and smiling is generally frowned upon.
Actually I do have a bunch of guys from the North that I work closely with. I find them quite funny and affable. Now if you tell me they're tight as can be, that I believe.
Yorkshire man here. That was a friendly ‘good job wanker’ shoulder bump.
Haha fair enough - a head butt would be the highest form of praise in Yorkshire then I suppose?
it's called a "Liverpool kiss"
:-D - you guys are reallygiving me the hard sell for IM Bolton.
Re: Kona 2019 Race Day Thread [NordicSkier]
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NordicSkier wrote:
Lucy looked like she was getting paced by her husband not long before she repassed Crowley.Huh. She admitted he was pacing and coaching her at that point. Isn't that a penalty?
Perhaps mentioned elsewhere but on phone and too lazy to search...
does IM deflate front to keep people from just cycling off with bikes one taken off the course?
My front tire was flat on pick up, friend noticed 4-5 other bikes with front flats coming out of pick up while waiting for me.
Tire was fine night before and then morning of the race as well as during race.
I inflated the tube in the wheel and then underwater and it held pressure / no leaks so seems someone deflated via the valve...
Seems odd.
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does IM deflate front to keep people from just cycling off with bikes one taken off the course?
My front tire was flat on pick up, friend noticed 4-5 other bikes with front flats coming out of pick up while waiting for me.
Tire was fine night before and then morning of the race as well as during race.
I inflated the tube in the wheel and then underwater and it held pressure / no leaks so seems someone deflated via the valve...
Seems odd.
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2024: IM Hamburg