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Re: Alistair Brownlee 70.3 Dubai [Stumps] [ In reply to ]
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awenborn wrote:
Very true.

In the UK, Ironman is a niche venture even amongst triathletes; 99.9% of the population haven't even heard of Kona and even if he won it, I doubt it would make the BBC News sports section the next day. In terms of funding and investment in British Triathlon a third Olympic gold, and possibly fourth in the mixed relay, would be miles ahead.

Whether that's enough to sway his decision making remains to be seen.


What a load of rubbish. Ironman is as well known as ITU in th UK. During the summer IM races are on one of the main channels on tv.

When Christie Wellington won kona it was all over the news both on tv, written and digital.

Couldn't disagree more. The Brownlee's have a much higher profile than Christie every had. Plus as someone has pointed out IMs are never shown live on BBC! .

During the summer IM races are on one of the main channels on tv. Do you mean early Sunday morning on Ch4++??
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Re: Alistair Brownlee 70.3 Dubai [Stumps] [ In reply to ]
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Stumps wrote:
awenborn wrote:
Very true.

Whether that's enough to sway his decision making remains to be seen.


What a load of rubbish. Ironman is as well known as ITU in th UK. During the summer IM races are on one of the main channels on tv.

When Christie Wellington won kona it was all over the news both on tv, written and digital.

I just took a quick poll at work, about 16 people here. All knew the Brownlees. A couple knew 'there is an Ironman in Hawaii'. Less than half knew Chrissie Wellington.
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Re: Alistair Brownlee 70.3 Dubai [Jackets] [ In reply to ]
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Considering it's a sprint, I bet Ali doesn't win gold if he goes to Tokyo


Is Tokyo a sprint?

I'll think you'll find Ali has a very good record in Sprint distance anyway, i'd agree though his chances are much better at oly distance.

Tokyo is officially a sprint, the ITU announced it.

Whilst AB may find gold harder to come by in that, Great Britain must be favourites for Gold in the mixed relay. I think that's his more likely source of gold #3
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Re: Alistair Brownlee 70.3 Dubai [newManUK] [ In reply to ]
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The vast majority of those that know the Brownlees now that they have crossed over to mainstream (purely from the 2 Olympics + brother carrying) are likely to be almost as unaware of the annual ITU series as Kona/long course, and will think that triathlon is something that is done only when the Olympics comes around.

I'd imagine that the majority keen enough to watch a live 'ordinary' ITU triathlon will probably also at least be aware of Kona.

The mainstream interest will probably move on once B's do...I remember at times the nation coming to a standstill for Ice Dancing...Snooker...etc....but only for the short term.

He needs to decide what he wants to shoot for. Another Olympics will keep building that mainstream profile for the 2 years leading in and put him in the 'Great Olympians' ball park if he's successful. Kona would see that mainstream profile start to ebb away, but of course a Kona title or two would bring 'greatest ever triathlete' into range. He has a tough call to make.....
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Re: Alistair Brownlee 70.3 Dubai [bluefever] [ In reply to ]
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When? Cause I certainly haven’t read anything and google only returns info about mixed relay

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Re: Alistair Brownlee 70.3 Dubai [oscaro] [ In reply to ]
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oscaro wrote:
When? Cause I certainly haven’t read anything and google only returns info about mixed relay


You're right - the relay was announced - but sprint stated as a preference. Sorry about that!
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Re: Alistair Brownlee 70.3 Dubai [oscaro] [ In reply to ]
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oscaro wrote:
When? Cause I certainly haven’t read anything and google only returns info about mixed relay

I'm pretty sure you are correct. Standard distance for individual and sprint for mixed relay.
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Re: Alistair Brownlee 70.3 Dubai [newManUK] [ In reply to ]
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newManUK wrote:
Stumps wrote:
awenborn wrote:
Very true.

In the UK, Ironman is a niche venture even amongst triathletes; 99.9% of the population haven't even heard of Kona and even if he won it, I doubt it would make the BBC News sports section the next day. In terms of funding and investment in British Triathlon a third Olympic gold, and possibly fourth in the mixed relay, would be miles ahead.

Whether that's enough to sway his decision making remains to be seen.


What a load of rubbish. Ironman is as well known as ITU in th UK. During the summer IM races are on one of the main channels on tv.

When Christie Wellington won kona it was all over the news both on tv, written and digital.


Couldn't disagree more. The Brownlee's have a much higher profile than Christie every had. Plus as someone has pointed out IMs are never shown live on BBC! .

During the summer IM races are on one of the main channels on tv. Do you mean early Sunday morning on Ch4++??
Months after the race, also true for them being shown on SkySports or Eurosport months after as a short highlights package.
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Re: Alistair Brownlee 70.3 Dubai [Jackets] [ In reply to ]
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I know in the past he has done well, the guy is a legend at every distance. I think is injuries are going to catch up though and he won't have the top end that he used to, especially not compared to guys like Mola and Birdwhistle. MTR maybe, but for the same reason, younger guys might actually be faster. Will be interesting to see.
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Re: Alistair Brownlee 70.3 Dubai [imswimmer328] [ In reply to ]
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Just a general reply to the thread here, you guys crack me up. First of all you are arguing about a distance that isn't even a race in the individual olympic game schedule, and coming up with all sorts of reasons Ali won't be able to sprint against the others.

And even if he did, who out runs him in a 5k? Nobody at no time when he is on. And all this Murray, Mola, or whoever talk, haven't they been racing as hard(actually harder) than Ali has over the past decade? What are they all of a sudden going to be younger and fresher than he is, and have closed the gap he has held for that entire decade.

Now if you want to talk about true contenders, then talk about the actual new guys on the scene that have moved up to Murray and Mola and Johnny. There are a couple and perhaps one of those makes the last bit of painful gain to outrun Ali on his day, but I don't think so. But if it happens it will be one of those guys, not the usual suspects.

Now of course all of this is based on a fit and 99% AB showing up to the games, which is a good bet given past history. Of course he has been beaten in the past, but almost always having some kind of bad day, and those have been few and far between.

I'n not even sure what his plans are, but I would assume with the new relay medal he might like to have that one in his medal case too. Then maybe an ironman, but I just have a weird feeling that he is going to call it quits before he gets that far. He will have had a very long and hard career after 2020, he would really have to want it to keep going if he were to have a successful 3rd games..
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Re: Alistair Brownlee 70.3 Dubai [monty] [ In reply to ]
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One other thing that hasn't been mentioned is the potential for him to domestique Jonny in Tokyo (which he has hinted at)

Im sure he could manage that aswel as the mixed relay without fully comiting to short course and still race/train long?
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Re: Alistair Brownlee 70.3 Dubai [Jackets] [ In reply to ]
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Jackets wrote:
One other thing that hasn't been mentioned is the potential for him to domestique Jonny in Tokyo (which he has hinted at)

Im sure he could manage that aswel as the mixed relay without fully comiting to short course and still race/train long?

Do you mean like he did in Leeds last year :) That ride by AB was the best ITU bike ride I've ever seen. Some monster pulls and then kicks away on the run.
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Re: Alistair Brownlee 70.3 Dubai [newManUK] [ In reply to ]
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I think Leeds 2016 was better just for that 2 mins when AB dropped out the lead bike group to drag JB back up there from the chase group, leaving Gomez and Mola(?) in no-mans land.

I still have no idea how they managed to pull that off.
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Re: Alistair Brownlee 70.3 Dubai [awenborn] [ In reply to ]
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I think Leeds 2016 was better just for that 2 mins when AB dropped out the lead bike group to drag JB back up there from the chase group, leaving Gomez and Mola(?) in no-mans land.

I still have no idea how they managed to pull that off.

The same way in their prime Phelps won all his golds, Jordan use to hit buzzer beaters and Tiger won majors.

The best do what the rest of us can’t even think of doing.
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Re: Alistair Brownlee 70.3 Dubai [awenborn] [ In reply to ]
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I agree about Leeds 2016 over 2017... 2017 was impressive as hell, but in 2016 AB literally manhandled the field in a way that few ever could (probably the male equivalent to what Duffy did in Yokohama... and pretty much every race except for Montreal...)...

In terms of the olympics, the ITU has not announced sprint distance for Tokyo... The MTR is super sprint as usual, and for now, the race is still standard distance. There is the possibility of moving to a sprint distance, but I suspect if that's the case, it would be announced soon, before we get into the qualification period, since it may affect some national federations approach to where they send their athletes...
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Re: Alistair Brownlee 70.3 Dubai [Trauma] [ In reply to ]
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I was at Leeds 2016. Raced as an AGer in the morning and it was the most appalling race experience of my life (and I got off lightly compared to some).

AB's reading of the course, and race execution, including slowing up to allow JB to bridge then pulling away again was unreal. He shaped the entire race into how he wanted it. No one else could do that.

I'll never forget the look on his face as he exploded out of T1 and powered up the 400m hill. Epitome of race face.
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Re: Alistair Brownlee 70.3 Dubai [oscaro] [ In reply to ]
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It's nice to see that Alister participated in the athlete meeting at this one.



Genetics load the gun, lifestyle pulls the trigger.
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Re: Alistair Brownlee 70.3 Dubai [sciguy] [ In reply to ]
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Wonder why #Bahrain13 #millionbucks

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Re: Alistair Brownlee 70.3 Dubai [oscaro] [ In reply to ]
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oscaro wrote:
Wonder why #Bahrain13 #millionbucks

Money talks:)

Genetics load the gun, lifestyle pulls the trigger.
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Re: Alistair Brownlee 70.3 Dubai [sciguy] [ In reply to ]
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plus, he really loves sports.

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Re: Alistair Brownlee 70.3 Dubai [oscaro] [ In reply to ]
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Link for live coverage of the race tomorrow:

http://eu.ironman.com/...y=2018#axzz55s8ZM4t8
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Re: Alistair Brownlee 70.3 Dubai [iron_mike] [ In reply to ]
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I've just seen on inst that JB & AB are racing WTS Dubia on 2 March. I guess that means he is still very much thinking about Tokyo
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Re: Alistair Brownlee 70.3 Dubai [monty] [ In reply to ]
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Way to keep it real, Monty!
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Re: Alistair Brownlee 70.3 Dubai [newManUK] [ In reply to ]
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Or using it as a sharpener for the Common Wealth games in April......
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Re: Alistair Brownlee 70.3 Dubai [awenborn] [ In reply to ]
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awenborn wrote:
Link for live coverage of the race tomorrow:

http://eu.ironman.com/...y=2018#axzz55s8ZM4t8

Many thanks.
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