Saw this earlier and I'm still on the fence about whether it's legit. Legit or not, I don't expect it to move the needle much.

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Me too... but their track record merits consideration.

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I'm not familiar, will have to educate myself.

Doesn't their track record just consist of Cawthorn? I'm really not a fan of some of what they did with Cawthorn. What we already knew about Cawthorn was more than enough that voters should know he's unfit to serve as a Congressman. Maybe the end (Cawthorn getting primaried) justifies the means. I don't know.

But this group is pretty slimy. Even the Lincoln Project has some slime to it, but this group turns the dial up a few more notches.

I’m unclear why they keep harping on her being an “unlicensed escort.” It’s illegal just about everywhere other than a few counties in Nevada, so being unlicensed seems pretty much a given. As for the rest, what is bad for boebert is almost certainly good for America.

Isn't being an escort good practice for being a politician?

I could tell there was something familiar about her

https://forum.slowtwitch.com/...ost=7641949#p7641949

She & Kimmy Gargoyle walk the same way; they could probably teach Maggie Three Names, but she's kinda lacking in the "toes" department, and can't get her Fred Flintstone feet into heels

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"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin

Oh, so you're not familiar?

Think of it as similar to being an "unregistered nurse".

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It’s opposition research, right? I don’t think this is anything new.

I think it’s interesting that Ted Cruz is included in this prostitution/ abortion story because it should hurt him as well.

I think Pence is doing a lot of orchestration right now, so I think his Republican Christian people are behind this. Smells like Pence to me.

Correct and select dial turning is in order. I say carry on.

Wasn’t this already known? I seem to recall copies of her escort ad were circulating a while back.

Because they aren't saying she was a prostitute, they are alleging she was an escort. And CO has a law requiring that escorts be licensed, which is cited on that page. Now lets be real, I'm betting if someone is paying good money to be escorted by her it is not for the scintillating conversation. But different strokes and all that.

Here is the site: https://www.fireboebert.com/boebertabortions

Pictures that are supposedly of her are on there too. I can't tell if they are her or not.

If they have done this and they are wrong they need sued into oblivion. And I'm with Trail, the methods of these guys are pretty sleazy and distasteful. I'd much rather she be voted out for being a moron and bad representative.

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I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.

This PAC claims to be a coalition of Republicans, Democrats and unaffiliated voters, but that does not ring true for the same reasons you and Trail find it distasteful.

Democrats and Republicans loyal to the rule of law would attack Boebert for other reasons and would probably not touch the abortion/escort-prostitution stuff.

That’s why I think this comes from the evangelicals. I think they want to purge the clownish GOP of the people they find embarrassing.

Boebert was hired by a wealthy male client in Aspen, Colorado, who was a Koch family member. Boebert’s rich client subsequently introduced her to U.S. Senator Ted Cruz (RTX) in Aspen in 2019. After meeting with Senator Cruz, Boebert was encouraged by him to run for U.S. Congress. After Boebert announced her campaign for Congress in December 2019, Senator Cruz donated $126,000.00 to the Boebert Campaign and helped her raise large sums of money during trips Boebert made to Texas.


Boebert didn’t disclose a $75,000 donation until Cruz’s Federal Election Commission filings contradicted
her filings.


It is hard to wrap my head around how insane the GOP has become.

Naah..Cruz likes blondes

https://news.yahoo.com/...-star-073035749.html

this is the part i'm ambivalent about. on the one hand, she seems like a garbage human being and i'm not too proud to admit some schadenfreude. on the other hand, i'd really like justice to be delivered through the courts and judgement at the ballot box - she's ignorant and dangerous and that ought to be enough.

here's a PAC we know next to nothing about, who are literally called "muckrakers," who have decided to torpedo a target for whatever reason. who's next, and why?

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Legit or not, what is clear is they need an editor and a proof reader.

My guess would be that being woke means not disparaging sex workers?

So the bad part isn't that she was a prostitute but that it was unlicensed (and the hypocrisy of it all), or something to that effect.

I think the bad is that she has had two abortions but still had no problem campaigning on taking that right from other women. The fact that she was recruited by Ted Cruz to run for Congress while on a "date" with a client and lied on her financial disclosures is also pretty bad.

I doubt anything will come of this. GOP has embraced hypocrisy as a core value.

Right, I was just talking about the prostitution part of the accusations.

Boebert is very blond in her escort profile.

So let's pretend I believe all this.

Cruz "You should run for office. That way I can donate $126,000 legally for your 'services'"

Boebert - actually runs for office and wins.

Cruz - "shit"

Checks out.

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Gotta fight slime with slime.

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Blackmail was suggested as the reason for the donation Cruz made to her campaign.

This tweet might take on a different meaning if this is all true...

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Interesting re: the registration requirement, but it still reads weird. The implication they are pretty clearly trying to make is that she was a hooker. Right or wrong the common perception of “escort” is “prostitute” so outing her as an escort seems like mission accomplished. But, whatever. I’m happy to leave it to the pros.

On that exact tension, I'm having a hard time fully enjoying this while simultaneously holding the view that the right to an abortion is an example of the constitutionally protected right to privacy. The schadenfreude is winning but it's leaving a bitter taste.

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Sometimes someone here mirrors my feelings and expresses them better than I can. Thank you.

Prostitutes are paid to have sex with the client; escorts can opt in or opt out [that's on a separate menu]

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"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin

I wonder how many never opt in and prostitute themselves?

Can't imagine that always opting out keeps you working as an escort for very long?

Sure, I get that. But, I don’t think their target audience is going to understand or care much about that distinction.

MR: she was a paid escort.

Deplorables: oh, ok.

MR: but she was unlicensed.

Deplorables: WHAT? BURN HER!

I don’t see the above happening. Assuming it’s a true allegation I would simply put it out there that she was a paid escort working with sugardaddymeets etc. If she wants to spin the, yes, but I was a legal escort distinction then let her bring it up. If she does she confirms at least part of what they allege and lends credibility to the remainder. That would also be the time to raise the unlicensed issue. Because a legit, legal escort that totally wasn’t a prostitute would have license right Lauren?

Well of course that's going to happen if you go with the unregistered escort. Duh.

Not like there's a long-term career path

"I started as a Summer Intern, now look at me - I'm CFO!!!"

I could be wrong; I worked with dancers, mostly. If there were any escorts around, I couldn't tell, nor do I remember any that stand out [you'd probably see the same person time after time with different "dates" if what is depicted on TV/in movies is accurate]

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"What's your claim?" - Ben Gravy
"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin

I listened to a podcast story about a girl (the story was actually about her drug addiction) who was working as an escort and seemed to be suffering under the delusion that she wasn't a prostitute. One of her sugar daddy's flew her to the city where he lived to party and I guess at some point she told him she wasn't going to have sex with him. So he kicked her out of his house with no money (and no more drugs) and no plane ticket back home. You'd think that might have burst her illusion of what she was actually being paid for.

When we are talking about turning the notch up on slimy I think it goes both ways.

I'm 100% just speculating, but there may be Escort Agencies/Firms would provide "beards" for high-paying gay clients* who are not out, so they can attend very visible events with someone on their arm

Sex would most likely be off the table in that situation

* Both men and women

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Zero tension on my end. She deserves all the shit she's getting. I don't care if her life circumstances led her to being an escort. I don't know her life, what she went through etc. I'm not judging her for that. I'm not judging her for 2 abortions either. Same thing. Her body, her choice.

However, I'm absolutely judging her for her FYIGM attitude towards people in possibly the same predicaments. She had the choice between learning from her life situation to be more understanding and compassionate, or making a quick buck off the backs of people who need help. She's deserving of all this shit. She brought it on herself.

Though the information is getting increasingly sketchy to me.

In the screenshot of texts on the website (fireboebert.com) on page 2 of the document linked in this thread there's an image from the "source" purported to be Boebert's escort profile shot.

It's almost certainly not. It's an image used in this DailyMail expose of Melissa Carone in 2020. (not my sleuthing, came from other sites)

Oh, I just checked fireboebert.com again, and that part of the text stream has been removed since I looked yesterday. Sketchy.

There's some chance this is all bogus.

Until I see Boebert threatening them with a lawsuit, and given what a slimy sad excuse of a human she is, I'm going to assume it's true.

something's true, and i don't doubt her past is filled with unsavory stuff.

but if a published heavily-redacted text string now counts as evidence we're in a bad place. It's fakeable as hell.

No doubt... there's a greater chance that it won't make a difference.

She's a garbage dump of a human, but a worse congressional rep. I give her shit because she says some of the dumbest things. But we all need to add the following: Being investigated for fraud. Broke campaign finance laws. Says racist/Islamophobic crap. Called another member (one that didn't assist with 1/6) a terrorist. Contributed to stoking the lies of 1/6 and voted with Sedition Caucus. Was howler monkey #2 at the State of the Union. Congress has not passed a single bill she has sponsored. Useless except as a voice of stupidity in culture wars of her own creation.

We will see what the good people of CO-3 do on a week from Tuesday (June 28th). May she have her ass handed to her by Coram, but I doubt she will.

I share a healthy bit of doubt on the whole of the story, and there may be some back pedaling, but one thing about the story rings true... Ted Cruz ain't getting laid unless he's paying for it.

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I just scrolled through her Twitter Feed to see if she is acknowledging this. Other than one non-specific reference to fake news, she isn't talking about it.

On another note, holy shit, her Twitter feed is nothing but trolling. How the hell does someone like this get elected?

However I find it comical how to trash a lefty on this forum it has to be information from a moderate, credible, main stream news site. But the rules dont apply to trashing a righty (she is an extreme example though). Kudos to those admitting this may not be credible (even though I would not be surprised to find it true). And by no means am I defending Boebert, she is an embarrassment.

Carry on...

I don't think she got elected with any regard for her social media presence. I think she and the other deplorables have ramped up their online trolling since being elected in an attempt to stay in the headlines and thus relevant. Because honestly, if it weren't for the stupid shit she, MTG and others were putting out there, you wouldn't know who they are.

It's the Trump era playbook. As long as she's getting attention and sticking to the libs, she stays in favor with her core base. Also as with Trump, I don't think it's a good long term strategy. But that depends entirely on the character of her district.

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"We have your photo from your sugardaddymeet link"
"That's not my photo on the link"
"But you DID have a sugardaddymeet link"
"That's not my photo"
"So you DID have a sugardaddymeet link"
"I never said that, you did"

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"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin

I hope it's not a good long term strategy.
I hope they stop doubling down on anti woke.
I hope the far left stops doubling down on woke.
I hope.
But I also know entropy expands.

The far left is gonna far left. And the far right is gonna far right. The point is to keep them there, and out of the mainstream. Congress is too "mainstream". White House is too mainstream. I realize the House has always been a place that can reward ideological extremism (more than the Senate, governorships, etc, where typically some adulting is in order). But still.

It's the public voters though. They are calling for this shit. When extremists do this many are basing it off polling data. We need to stop feeding the far right/left extremist dreams. We have had some recent extremist in the WH. We will have more, unfortunately...

True, and we're still cleaning up after that 4-year shitshow.

She is denying everything and is threatening legal action, regardless of what I think of her if she's telling the truth and it's all a smear campaign I hope she does sue and wins.

...https://www.foxnews.com/...g-claims-paid-escort

Discovery might be fun.

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I agree with you that if these are straight lies, I hope she wins.

On a side note, it's interesting to try to figure out who the Muckraker's PAC is. The Fox article you posted refers to them as a " Democrat political action committee."

But that's not entirely clear. Of the two co-founders, one is a Democrat, the other unaffiliated (Colonel Moe Davis, who apparently has minor infamy of being a guy who resigned from his military position at Gitmo as a result of the torture revelations). And a 3rd key member is a "former Republican."

So not clear to me if this is a "Democrat" operation or something like the Lincoln Project, which is not. There is no obvious financial or organizational connection to the DNC or truly prominent Democrats. Though that doesn't mean there isn't.

Sleazy as hell if these are straight up lies.

I don’t quite get stooping this low for Boebert. She does a good enough job making herself unelectable. I don’t see these revelations, if true, to move the needle much.

Well, I'm sure this would all shake out with a proper lawsuit. And whether she wins or not, I hope some very damaging information comes out. She is a complete POS with a total disregard for the truth and says some of the most hateful horrendous things, and an elected representative at that.
She deserves everything she gets, unless it's good. She needs to go the way of the Wonder boy.

"God" help us if they keep electing people like this and they actually continue to get elected. Now if we could just get MG convicted That would be great. Add MGT and others to that mix. It would be great if Trump Center circle joined. But I'm getting too excited here.

We've already gone through this once. I'm still in disbelief that djt somehow won the election, but I also believe he had help from russia. Whether it was coordinated or not, I don't know, but apparently the aging and maybe not so well thinking anymore Mueller said they weren't coordinating so that's fine. Mueller teed up an obstruction charge and then Bill Barr completely and unethically got rid of that without even knowing the details.

Yes, we have some pretty over-the-top far left people in our party, but you don't see anywhere near the amount of hate coming out of their mouths as you do some of these POS republicans. I think that's a verifiable fact. But no I'm not going to spend the money documenting it.

Exactly.

She isn’t suing anybody.

I bet they already have the people lined up to be deposed that will say she was an escort and got abortions. Given that she’s a public figure she has to show they acted with actual malice. If their sources are credible at all she won’t be able to meet that threshold (not to mention that the witnesses or documents might prove the allegations to be true).

That's what her husband said, in the bowling alley

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“Tell me you spank the monkey before any big post. Oh my God, he doesn't flog the dolphin before a big post. Are you crazy? That's like going out posting with a loaded gun! Of course that's why you're nervous.”

The Muckrakers were asked by Fox News for a comment about the lawsuit before her lawyers had even contacted them.

That's weird.

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I was shocked when I read, "the letter, which was exclusively obtained by Fox News Digital".

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I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.

I can't decide if these Muckraker guys are mostly hacks, given the amateurish nature of their releases and website, or playing 3D chess by realizing the best way to take down Boebert is to weaponize Fox News against her.

Whether any of this is true or not I hope her primary opponent uses this to help defeat her. In my Colorado district the incumbent and the leading challenger have ads with outright lies about each other. The challenger is suing but it has to hurt him since early voting has already started. The challenger is also a whacko. The Colorado GOP is supporting all the whackos like Boebert. In my state district the GOP put forth a convicted felon as the sole candidate, until it was discovered the vote had been manipulated by the county GOP chair and the incumbent was allowed to be on the ballot. The GOP has also put forth nutjobs in the primary for US Senator and Governor.

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Tri-ing to have fun. Anything else is just a bonus!

She will likely admit it and cry a bit and say how contrite she is, please forgive her, has anyone not sinned.....?? blah blah blah. And the world will go on.

That would probably be her best path forward, her supporters will rationalize it and forget about it in two weeks. I think she will actually take the Trump path and continue to deny everything until people move on. I doubt this law suit ever actually materializes.

Exactly.

This is the same game plan as Trump swearing that he would sue every last one of the women who accused him of sexual misconduct, "after the election." Then he won and didn't sue anyone. He wouldn't have if he lost either.

She'll cry "LAWSUIT!" to get herself through the election. Then, nothing. Her lawyers might start the process now, to make it look legit, but it will be dropped before discovery.

You are correct. I was in a hurry and forgot to jerk off before posting, but in my defense just as I was getting excited MTG's face came into view and I've been dead limp ever since.

From the looks of things, I think you meant in a bowling alley restroom stall

He meant bowling alley.



Fun read on the summary of legal issues of this fine upstanding citizen who allegedly was paid to boink Ted Cruz.

Yep its the NY Post, but no lies were told.

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Too early to give her much credit on this. This is Trump legal tactic 101. Threaten to sue, quietly drop it later when it all blows over.

We'll see. If she goes through with this and isn't lying then she should win and win big.

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How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?

General statement. The allure of civil disobedience and corruption as a political attribute is fascinating pathology. It seems many people feel like chumps for being upstanding citizens, so they love and worship those who thumb their nose.

I'm a Bayesian by training, so when I see a bunch of shit posted about Boebert, I have sufficient priors to think that the probability of the shit is close to 1.

You should stay off jury pools with that attitude...

https://www.cnn.com/...gar-daddy/index.html

Close to 1… doesn’t mean 1. Reading carefully is required. Was very plausible.

If you remember my prior post I agreed it was quite probable. I am NOT a Roebert fan... but this smelled funny from the start. I'm sure she has plenty of legit points to attack, so go that way..

Fair point.

The new far right are wackos (as are the new far left). But false accusations hurt real accusations. In general I am a realist, shying away from optimism and pessimism, but with politics i see a pessimistic outlook.

No surprise there. Politics have been shit for years. When is the last time people discussed ideas and campaigns weren’t about how the other side sucks?

Entropy... the scientist in me sees that. Politics will shift further. Sigh. No one wants to make any concessions anymore. It's an all or nothing attitude.

It was done by design. And here is the story of the architect who’s proud of his work…

https://www.theatlantic.com/...oure-welcome/570832/

I think we can safely stop calling it the “far” right. Too large a percentage of the party is all in on serious and nation-altering false accusations to be saying it’s “far” anything. Sorry, I simply can’t bring myself to compare election fraud lies accepted and embraced on a party level, in large part to the non-stop diarrhea broadcast over the 6 years, to saying these things about a low level congresswoman. Time will tell whether we’ll see a similar candidate on the left embraced this way. I too, have a very pessimistic outlook.

As I said earlier, these lies about Boebert are sleazy and I hope she gets the restitution she is owed.

Why are you treating this like it's a complete exoneration? Their report was sloppy and irresponsible but they are standing by the main points. It will be easy to judge going forward. Boebert has said she is going to file a suit, we can just wait and see if that ever happens.

Doesn't matter now, mistakes were made and that's all she and her supporters need, they'll chant fake news and she'll win again.
https://twitter.com/.../1540694755138539524

Interesting and a bit depressing.

However the article says he didn't design it as the architect but only capitalized on it. And his statements on what gets media headlines is true, media is becoming a societal danger.

And the author is not bias free, why call him an elephant framed person?:

Their report was sloppy and irresponsible but they are standing by their main points?

They have proven themselves to be not a believable source. Their sources have been proven wrong by left leaning media. They have zero credibility without new redeeming information. For now they are tinfoil hat crazies. Would you allow me to defend this source still if they had been attacking a lefty politician? No, you wouldn't. So don't defend them until they clear their mistakes/lies with actual facts. Facts are not just required for arguments from the right...they are required by all. Period.

Well, it was fake news. Liberals are not allowed more lies and fake made up stuff that rightys. The rules are the same. I know we all don't like her, but fake news is fake news. Until new facts are submitted this is currently fake news.

I wasn't comparing to the acts of the whatever you prefer we call them. My point was if this was an attack on a lefty politician this thread would have been shut down asap by the crowd for lack of facts. And lack if facts was shown true. Boebert is an idiot and may be some of those things alleged... but proof is needed to level those allegations.

You used, "fake news" 5 times in your post. Keep pounding that drum. The fact that there were factual errors in the story is not evidence that she wasn't an escort that had multiple abortions. She said she was going to sue them for lying. I think we can conclude if that turns out to be a lie she doesn't have a case or wants to avoid discovery. That's the beauty, we can just wait and see.

With all your talk of fake news, I'm glad you agree that CNN is a rock solid fact checking source.

I dont agree CNN is rock solid. However they posted information that the accused liars admitted was wrong on their end. An admission of guilt with no cops in a locked room using a rubber hose.

Please tell me you would defend Fox News in this situation if their sources on an accusation showed false across the board but then said "I know our information was proven wrong, but we promise it is still true!!"....

Can you point me to where the accused liars admitted that their information about her alleged abortions were false? They may well be wrong but to say they admitted they were liars when their admission only covers part of what they said is disingenuous. No worries, the facts will come out in the trial or settlement.

It was in the CNN article. They admitted their sources were wrong. Until they have correct information they are propagating lies. Spreading false information is lying. They posted pictures of her as a hooked that were proven to be someone else. I require a bit more factual reality to a smear campaign.

Again, it wasn't unbelievable to me at first, but I tried to tone down the circle jerk with only anonymous baseless accusations where early on in the thread we ready new the pictures were fake and not her. But those frothing at the mouth to believe whatever against someone they hate was laughable.... especially since it was only allowed against a far righty. No way this level of non information would have been allowed against a lefty. And that is the problem here.

Again, you are being disingenuous when you make claims of what they admitted. Say it as many times as you want, factual errors in the story do not discredit the whole story. Has she filed that lawsuit yet? It might all be bullshit, we'll see.

American Muckrakers PAC co-founder David Wheeler acknowledged to CNN that the super PAC had been "sloppy" and had published "inaccuracies" on its anti-Boebert website, though he said it remains confident in the "main points of the story."

Well, if the sloppy person that posted incorrect information and documentation "remains confident", I guess that should be enough. Get your pitchfork, ill meet you outside in 5...

Again, not a Boebert defender or fan, but we have fake info and fake photos so far. I'd recommend taking the sidelines until they can back up what originally has proved incorrect documentation, which means it is fake news if your sources prove false. Even USA Today journalists fake sources. Clear up their mistakes if it is still true. But they failed to prove their original assertion. Pretty sloppy, why side with someone so sloppy? Embarrassingly poor execution of their plan.


https://www.nytimes.com/...ricated-sources.html

How many times have I said I'm willing to wait to see how this plays out? Where did I suggest anything like a pitchfork.

You used faulty logic, I pointed it out. You then assigned a bunch of, "lefty" positions to me that I haven't taken. Let me know when she files that lawsuit.

Nope, you are not all at getting it. They are wrong until they prove themselves right. The whole point is this would be shut down asap if some right pack used just anonymous resources. But further than that we now see the picks were fake, the dates of Cruz money were far off that it couldn't be for what they claimed. Think about how people treat a hunter Biden laptop story when it was just rudy and Co and so far by then unsubstantiated claims...

I dont care if its true or not. But this site shows its willing to accept highly suspect anonymous sources with proven incorrect information when it is a righty politician being attacked. Hell, even a LR poster knew the photo was a fake before I posted the CNN investigative article. Why is that so hard for you to understand?

"The picks" [sic] weren't fake. One of the pictures was acknowledged as being of someone else. They're still claiming the others (which admittedly were only a half-step past regular cutish girl in jeans photos), are of Boebert and from her escort profile. This outfit is clearly sloppy as all heck. But they've withdrawn maybe 35% of their allegations and stood by the rest. I look forward to the lawsuit.

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Don't know if any of the Muckraker stuff is true.

News yesterday had Tina Peters, County Clerk of Mesa County who is under indictment for election tampering, claiming Boebert told her to do it. Boebert is denying it.

Colorado primaries are today. Boebert may win. Tina Peters is running for Secretary of State and will likely lose.

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Don

Tri-ing to have fun. Anything else is just a bonus!

You’re 2 for 2.

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"Are you sure we're going fast enough?" - Emil Zatopek

I'm mostly on your side, and I think I have some credibility in this thread as my BS detection alarms were indicated in my first post.

But in defense of the "news" media, genuine news journalists seemed to have been very careful in their reporting. E.g. there were news stories about that Muckrakers release because the inflammatory release was itself a form of news, but very careful to not corroborate the validity of the claims about Boebert. And beyond that, detail the thin sourcing by the Muckrakers and their own inability to independently corroborate.

So I'd call it "fake," but not news.

I have a bit of a pet peeve for the term being watered down so as to become almost meaningless....

I understand your point just fine, I just disagree with you.

Has she filed that lawsuit yet?

If it turns out to true I am not going to lose a wink of sleep. I dont like wacko politicians. I cringe at most crap the woman says. And you were part of my reference to others calling out the lack of info and possible sketchiness.

I just find it hypocritical that this site can froth at the mouth over unsubstantiated claims while immediately shutting them down in other cases. The difference seems to be political leaning. However Boebert is a bit special, I understand that. I have zero plans to defend her. Though I would hope more would pull back once some major claims were refuted, such as the timeliness of said hush money from Cruz where they claimed Cruz paid her $127k for prostitution.

I would guess there may be some truth to some of it. Many fake claims have some shred of truth, those are the best lies. It is not all that unbelievable,which is why many want it to be true. But... facts matter. We haven't had any. Just so far unsubstantiated claims...which need to be backed up. The Cawthorne video from them seemed to be drunken kids with a friend helping his crippled friend who then proceed to try to hump his friends head while all giggle wildly with laughter. Weird yes, but it was not what it was purported to be. I'm happy he got voted out. I want all the extremist bullshitters out.... that may not leave too many members of congress.

What else do you believe without proof? What else do you continue to believe without proof even after some of the unsubstantiated claims have been shown fake and removed?

Do you believe the Bible is word for word accurate?

Is that proof to you? You should stay off a jury.

I dont like Boebert, but I also refuse to wholeheartedly jump on the bandwagon of unsubstantiated anonymous claims, especially after some get refuted. And they were refuted by a liberal source that produced data to show why, not just an opinion. I dont like CNN but at least here they showed why they were calling the claims sketchy. If these shadowy anonymous sources can prove theirs claims, ill laugh right along with you when she gets voted out.

Where did I say I believe this as fact? I'm going to say this one more time, and then I'm done. My participation in this thread revolved around your claim that errors in reporting dismiss all reporting from that source. If that were the case, we could only rely on news sources that have never made an error, I'm not aware of any.

Given her history and the history of the muckrakers, I believe the report is somewhat credible. That is strictly my opinion, it may be complete bullshit. I've never asserted anything further.

I never said to dismiss it completely, I just asked you to take a grain of salt. What history? The Cawthorne "gay porn" video of drunken laughter?

And, I think it is good he is no longer a representative of our congress. I dont approve of the methods (though I would hope he would have got the boot anyway), but politics and those who participate are largely amoral pieces of shit.

Who froths at the mouth? Point those posts out for all of us. It seems, as usual, the forum is more or less in agreement. The article seemed fishy, probably had some truth to it.

Quit being a whiny victim.

Wait what? I didn't hear that part. Dang, Cruz is a freak.

Trump said his wife is ugly, so he's gotta get it elsewhere


And $127K was not all at once - $75K for one "undisclosed donation" then another $52K later

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"What's your claim?" - Ben Gravy
"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin

From the article:

I am a bit confused, I don't see the mention of him paying for sex. It appears he donated to her campaign because she is batshit crazy. Today's GOP loves batshit crazy.

As usual you come off a pompous swim coach. This fucking thread swim coach. Read it. Frothing at the mouth over unsubstantiated shit. Happens in many other threads. Do your own research, I'm not your secretary...

Well, I read the entire thread again.

There has been frothing all right. But it has all come from you.

From the very beginning everyone has been skeptical. No one bought it completely. The closest you come is some people saying they don't care, she is a POS and spreads lies so she gets what she deserves.

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LMAO.

Read your post.

Tell us how you got rabies.

Is calling me “swim coach” an insult? I wish I was a swim coach.

You, you , you filthy rotten . . . Swim coach?

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Suffer Well.

That was the analysis from refuting their claims of payoff. The second aspect was implied by the Muckrakers report as well as posters in this thread, even alleging she was blackmailing him after being introduced by a client of hers related to the Koch family.

Every post of yours towards me is a jab. You make antagonistic, shit talking, condescending remarks that allude to you thinking you are more intelligent than you are. Stick to your expertise, swimming. You are quite knowledgeable in that arena.

You might want to check the definition of that word... many on here were so excited at the possibilities. I find it pathetic that this flies only when a certain party is targeted. Target the other party with that little of anonymous info and a swarm of posters for that party would zoom in and shut the thread down...

This the LR... every post is a jab.

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Suffer Well.

Yeah. I don't need to. Everyone was skeptical of the reliability of the report. But nice attempt at a redirect.

Now you should look up "frothing at the mouth." And I was even giving you some leeway. I let you include being "excited at the possibilities" when the reality is "frothing at the mouth" means to be angry. And really there was only one who said they got too excited.

You keep making the assertion and it isn't backed up by evidence. If it is there, point it out. I know, I know, you aren't my secretary. That is nonsense. You are accusing people of something, back it up.

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If you don't see the difference between the behavior here vs anonymous accusations against a lefty thread... I don't know what to tell you. Switch the political parties and this thread doesn't make it past a half page...

Since you need help, here you go with filtering... I even hyperlinked them which I shouldn't have bothered. Make me work, I should have given you some of your own...

https://forum.slowtwitch.com/...ost=7761921#p7761921
https://forum.slowtwitch.com/...ost=7761939#p7761939
https://forum.slowtwitch.com/...ost=7762050#p7762050
https://forum.slowtwitch.com/...ost=7762059#p7762059

Me calling out the guy who literally says he is getting too excited over this:

https://forum.slowtwitch.com/...ost=7762096#p7762096
https://forum.slowtwitch.com/...ost=7762227#p7762227
https://forum.slowtwitch.com/...ost=7762240#p7762240
https://forum.slowtwitch.com/...ost=7762251#p7762251
https://forum.slowtwitch.com/...ost=7762277#p7762277
https://forum.slowtwitch.com/...ost=7762288#p7762288

Then I posted the article that send Thom into a tizzy...

https://forum.slowtwitch.com/...ost=7767855#p7767855
https://forum.slowtwitch.com/...ost=7767990#p7767990

This post convinced me you are not frothing at the mouth.

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Suffer Well.

Is this really your definition of a, "tizzy"? Really?

So this thread has me thinking - do large fake knockers impact your center of buoyancy? I’m thinking it would force your hips down and slow you down.

Is there a swim coach that can confirm?

Thank you for proving my point.

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I'm not a swim coach but I'm willing to do the research.

I'll lend a hand... or two.

If you think that proved your point you are illiterate or foolish...or both.

Are you suggesting that a certain Representative from Colorado 3 has fake boobs?

You better back that up with some documentation, we don't want anyone to get frothy at the mouth over unsubstantiated claims.

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Suffer Well.

I'm not frothing at the mouth, but I am about to go into a tizzy.

I am about to have a Santorum all over me.

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I have some experience as a motorboat captain that might come in valuable in this research.

I'm not sure whether to give you congrats or condolences...

My point is not who the thread is about. It is applying the same standards.

If we reversed the political parties then on page one it would be shut down.

First we would get a few people calling poster an idiot, asshole or racist.

Kay comes in and questions their moral compass.

Nutella asks "Why do you lie?"

Et al says you sound stupid talking about this, you should be embarrassed for starting this thread...

Francois calls them a fuckwit...

Half a page and done.

But because some of you have a boner for Boebert this is on page#6 136 posts.

Frothing aside it does appear that Cruz gave Boebert a lot of cash. Do you think that was for "services rendered" or because the GOP is no longer the "Party of ideas" but is now the "Party of batshit crazy trolls who spew lies and conspiracy theories in order to trigger the libs"?

I’m pretty sure she has said she has. Her employees have said she has. Not sure this counts as proof - but here is an interview with employees mentioning it.

https://www.salon.com/...d-is-a-sham_partner/

You are simply reading things that aren't there.

There are 3 groups of people.

The biggest don't think it is reliable:

first reply - I'm still on the fence about whether it's legit.
second reply - Me too... but their track record merits consideration.
third reply - this group is pretty slimy.


several replies not on the topic of the veracity


next reply - Pictures that are supposedly of her are on there too. I can't tell if they are her or not.


If they have done this and they are wrong they need sued into oblivion. And I'm with Trail, the methods of these guys are pretty sleazy and distasteful. I'd much rather she be voted out for being a moron and bad representative.


next - This PAC claims to be a coalition of Republicans, Democrats and unaffiliated voters, but that does not ring true for the same reasons you and Trail find it distasteful.


next is in the camp of she deserves it true or not - I don't mind at all if this isn't fabricated.


next - here's a PAC we know next to nothing about, who are literally called "muckrakers," who have decided to torpedo a target for whatever reason. who's next, and why?


next - So let's pretend I believe all this.




The second smallest group says from what we know it COULD be true, let's wait and see, threatening to sue over something like this and not following through is shady.


And the last have come right out and said they don't care if it is true she deserves it.


You told the whole board they were frothy when no one except one poster, who has 124 posts in 17 YEARS and said he got too excited, did anything close to being exuberant.


Then you told Thom he was in a tizzy. Thom may do a lot of things, but tizzing is not one of those.


And then you struck a very low blow and called someone a swim coach.


Of all the links you posted above I just don't see any frothing, lathering, or tizzing. YMMV.


In the meantime, Boebert is still someone that really struggled to get a GED, thinks the church should be directing the government, sits in the House, and we argue over the definition of frothing and everyone.


I'm out. Feel free to have the last word. We are getting lost in the weeds over meaningless shit.

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