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Re: Muckrakers -the Boebert edition [trail] [ In reply to ]
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I hope the far left stops doubling down on woke.


The far left is gonna far left. And the far right is gonna far right. The point is to keep them there, and out of the mainstream. Congress is too "mainstream". White House is too mainstream. I realize the House has always been a place that can reward ideological extremism (more than the Senate, governorships, etc, where typically some adulting is in order). But still.

It's the public voters though. They are calling for this shit. When extremists do this many are basing it off polling data. We need to stop feeding the far right/left extremist dreams. We have had some recent extremist in the WH. We will have more, unfortunately...
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Re: Muckrakers -the Boebert edition [mattbk] [ In reply to ]
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mattbk wrote:
. We have had some recent extremist in the WH.

True, and we're still cleaning up after that 4-year shitshow.
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Re: Muckrakers -the Boebert edition [jmh] [ In reply to ]
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She is denying everything and is threatening legal action, regardless of what I think of her if she's telling the truth and it's all a smear campaign I hope she does sue and wins.

...https://www.foxnews.com/...g-claims-paid-escort
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Re: Muckrakers -the Boebert edition [50+] [ In reply to ]
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50+ wrote:
She is denying everything and is threatening legal action, regardless of what I think of her if she's telling the truth and it's all a smear campaign I hope she does sue and wins.

...https://www.foxnews.com/...g-claims-paid-escort

Discovery might be fun.

Suffer Well.
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50+ wrote:
She is denying everything and is threatening legal action, regardless of what I think of her if she's telling the truth and it's all a smear campaign I hope she does sue and wins.

...https://www.foxnews.com/...g-claims-paid-escort


I agree with you that if these are straight lies, I hope she wins.

On a side note, it's interesting to try to figure out who the Muckraker's PAC is. The Fox article you posted refers to them as a " Democrat political action committee."

But that's not entirely clear. Of the two co-founders, one is a Democrat, the other unaffiliated (Colonel Moe Davis, who apparently has minor infamy of being a guy who resigned from his military position at Gitmo as a result of the torture revelations). And a 3rd key member is a "former Republican."

So not clear to me if this is a "Democrat" operation or something like the Lincoln Project, which is not. There is no obvious financial or organizational connection to the DNC or truly prominent Democrats. Though that doesn't mean there isn't.
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Re: Muckrakers -the Boebert edition [trail] [ In reply to ]
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Sleazy as hell if these are straight up lies.

I don’t quite get stooping this low for Boebert. She does a good enough job making herself unelectable. I don’t see these revelations, if true, to move the needle much.
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Re: Muckrakers -the Boebert edition [trail] [ In reply to ]
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Well, I'm sure this would all shake out with a proper lawsuit. And whether she wins or not, I hope some very damaging information comes out. She is a complete POS with a total disregard for the truth and says some of the most hateful horrendous things, and an elected representative at that.
She deserves everything she gets, unless it's good. She needs to go the way of the Wonder boy.

"God" help us if they keep electing people like this and they actually continue to get elected. Now if we could just get MG convicted That would be great. Add MGT and others to that mix. It would be great if Trump Center circle joined. But I'm getting too excited here.

We've already gone through this once. I'm still in disbelief that djt somehow won the election, but I also believe he had help from russia. Whether it was coordinated or not, I don't know, but apparently the aging and maybe not so well thinking anymore Mueller said they weren't coordinating so that's fine. Mueller teed up an obstruction charge and then Bill Barr completely and unethically got rid of that without even knowing the details.

Yes, we have some pretty over-the-top far left people in our party, but you don't see anywhere near the amount of hate coming out of their mouths as you do some of these POS republicans. I think that's a verifiable fact. But no I'm not going to spend the money documenting it.
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Re: Muckrakers -the Boebert edition [jmh] [ In reply to ]
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jmh wrote:
50+ wrote:
She is denying everything and is threatening legal action, regardless of what I think of her if she's telling the truth and it's all a smear campaign I hope she does sue and wins.

...https://www.foxnews.com/...g-claims-paid-escort

Discovery might be fun.

Exactly.

She isn’t suing anybody.

I bet they already have the people lined up to be deposed that will say she was an escort and got abortions. Given that she’s a public figure she has to show they acted with actual malice. If their sources are credible at all she won’t be able to meet that threshold (not to mention that the witnesses or documents might prove the allegations to be true).
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Re: Muckrakers -the Boebert edition [jmh] [ In reply to ]
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jmh wrote:
Discovery might be fun.

That's what her husband said, in the bowling alley

"What's your claim?" - Ben Gravy
"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin
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Re: Muckrakers -the Boebert edition [Matthew] [ In reply to ]
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Matthew wrote:
Well, I'm sure this would all shake out with a proper lawsuit. And whether she wins or not, I hope some very damaging information comes out. She is a complete POS with a total disregard for the truth and says some of the most hateful horrendous things, and an elected representative at that.
She deserves everything she gets, unless it's good. She needs to go the way of the Wonder boy.

"God" help us if they keep electing people like this and they actually continue to get elected. Now if we could just get MG convicted That would be great. Add MGT and others to that mix. It would be great if Trump Center circle joined. But I'm getting too excited here.

We've already gone through this once. I'm still in disbelief that djt somehow won the election, but I also believe he had help from russia. Whether it was coordinated or not, I don't know, but apparently the aging and maybe not so well thinking anymore Mueller said they weren't coordinating so that's fine. Mueller teed up an obstruction charge and then Bill Barr completely and unethically got rid of that without even knowing the details.

Yes, we have some pretty over-the-top far left people in our party, but you don't see anywhere near the amount of hate coming out of their mouths as you do some of these POS republicans. I think that's a verifiable fact. But no I'm not going to spend the money documenting it.

“Tell me you spank the monkey before any big post. Oh my God, he doesn't flog the dolphin before a big post. Are you crazy? That's like going out posting with a loaded gun! Of course that's why you're nervous.”
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Re: Muckrakers -the Boebert edition [DieselPete] [ In reply to ]
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jmh wrote:
50+ wrote:
She is denying everything and is threatening legal action, regardless of what I think of her if she's telling the truth and it's all a smear campaign I hope she does sue and wins.

...https://www.foxnews.com/...g-claims-paid-escort


Discovery might be fun.


Exactly.

She isn’t suing anybody.

I bet they already have the people lined up to be deposed that will say she was an escort and got abortions. Given that she’s a public figure she has to show they acted with actual malice. If their sources are credible at all she won’t be able to meet that threshold (not to mention that the witnesses or documents might prove the allegations to be true).

The Muckrakers were asked by Fox News for a comment about the lawsuit before her lawyers had even contacted them.

That's weird.

Suffer Well.
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Re: Muckrakers -the Boebert edition [jmh] [ In reply to ]
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jmh wrote:
DieselPete wrote:
jmh wrote:
50+ wrote:
She is denying everything and is threatening legal action, regardless of what I think of her if she's telling the truth and it's all a smear campaign I hope she does sue and wins.

...https://www.foxnews.com/...g-claims-paid-escort


Discovery might be fun.


Exactly.

She isn’t suing anybody.

I bet they already have the people lined up to be deposed that will say she was an escort and got abortions. Given that she’s a public figure she has to show they acted with actual malice. If their sources are credible at all she won’t be able to meet that threshold (not to mention that the witnesses or documents might prove the allegations to be true).


The Muckrakers were asked by Fox News for a comment about the lawsuit before her lawyers had even contacted them.

That's weird.

I was shocked when I read, "the letter, which was exclusively obtained by Fox News Digital".

I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.
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Re: Muckrakers -the Boebert edition [j p o] [ In reply to ]
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I was shocked when I read, "the letter, which was exclusively obtained by Fox News Digital".


I can't decide if these Muckraker guys are mostly hacks, given the amateurish nature of their releases and website, or playing 3D chess by realizing the best way to take down Boebert is to weaponize Fox News against her.


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Re: Muckrakers -the Boebert edition [jmh] [ In reply to ]
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Whether any of this is true or not I hope her primary opponent uses this to help defeat her. In my Colorado district the incumbent and the leading challenger have ads with outright lies about each other. The challenger is suing but it has to hurt him since early voting has already started. The challenger is also a whacko. The Colorado GOP is supporting all the whackos like Boebert. In my state district the GOP put forth a convicted felon as the sole candidate, until it was discovered the vote had been manipulated by the county GOP chair and the incumbent was allowed to be on the ballot. The GOP has also put forth nutjobs in the primary for US Senator and Governor.

Don

Tri-ing to have fun. Anything else is just a bonus!
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Re: Muckrakers -the Boebert edition [Tri2HaveFun] [ In reply to ]
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She will likely admit it and cry a bit and say how contrite she is, please forgive her, has anyone not sinned.....?? blah blah blah. And the world will go on.
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Re: Muckrakers -the Boebert edition [M~] [ In reply to ]
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She will likely admit it and cry a bit and say how contrite she is, please forgive her, has anyone not sinned.....?? blah blah blah. And the world will go on.

That would probably be her best path forward, her supporters will rationalize it and forget about it in two weeks. I think she will actually take the Trump path and continue to deny everything until people move on. I doubt this law suit ever actually materializes.
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Re: Muckrakers -the Boebert edition [Thom] [ In reply to ]
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Thom wrote:
M~ wrote:
She will likely admit it and cry a bit and say how contrite she is, please forgive her, has anyone not sinned.....?? blah blah blah. And the world will go on.


That would probably be her best path forward, her supporters will rationalize it and forget about it in two weeks. I think she will actually take the Trump path and continue to deny everything until people move on. I doubt this law suit ever actually materializes.

Exactly.

This is the same game plan as Trump swearing that he would sue every last one of the women who accused him of sexual misconduct, "after the election." Then he won and didn't sue anyone. He wouldn't have if he lost either.

She'll cry "LAWSUIT!" to get herself through the election. Then, nothing. Her lawyers might start the process now, to make it look legit, but it will be dropped before discovery.
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Re: Muckrakers -the Boebert edition [mattbk] [ In reply to ]
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Matthew wrote:
Well, I'm sure this would all shake out with a proper lawsuit. And whether she wins or not, I hope some very damaging information comes out. She is a complete POS with a total disregard for the truth and says some of the most hateful horrendous things, and an elected representative at that.
She deserves everything she gets, unless it's good. She needs to go the way of the Wonder boy.

"God" help us if they keep electing people like this and they actually continue to get elected. Now if we could just get MG convicted That would be great. Add MGT and others to that mix. It would be great if Trump Center circle joined. But I'm getting too excited here.

We've already gone through this once. I'm still in disbelief that djt somehow won the election, but I also believe he had help from russia. Whether it was coordinated or not, I don't know, but apparently the aging and maybe not so well thinking anymore Mueller said they weren't coordinating so that's fine. Mueller teed up an obstruction charge and then Bill Barr completely and unethically got rid of that without even knowing the details.

Yes, we have some pretty over-the-top far left people in our party, but you don't see anywhere near the amount of hate coming out of their mouths as you do some of these POS republicans. I think that's a verifiable fact. But no I'm not going to spend the money documenting it.


“Tell me you spank the monkey before any big post. Oh my God, he doesn't flog the dolphin before a big post. Are you crazy? That's like going out posting with a loaded gun! Of course that's why you're nervous.”

You are correct. I was in a hurry and forgot to jerk off before posting, but in my defense just as I was getting excited MTG's face came into view and I've been dead limp ever since.
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Re: Muckrakers -the Boebert edition [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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RandMart wrote:
jmh wrote:
Discovery might be fun.


That's what her husband said, in the bowling alley

From the looks of things, I think you meant in a bowling alley restroom stall
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Re: Muckrakers -the Boebert edition [ajthomas] [ In reply to ]
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ajthomas wrote:
RandMart wrote:
jmh wrote:
Discovery might be fun.


That's what her husband said, in the bowling alley


From the looks of things, I think you meant in a bowling alley restroom stall

He meant bowling alley.

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Rep. Lauren Boebert, the gun-toting freshman Republican Colorado congresswoman who ran on a law-and-order platform, has had several dust-ups with police, starting as a teenager.
The 34-year-old lawmaker, who beat her district’s very conservative Rep. Scott Tipton in a primary upset last June, has a rap sheet unusually long for a member of Congress.
And her track record of thumbing her nose at the law continued this week after she tussled with Capitol Police officers over her refusal to walk through newly installed House metal detectors.
“I am legally permitted to carry my firearm in Washington, DC, and within the Capitol complex,” she tweeted in defiance, while calling the detectors “another political stunt by Speaker Pelosi.”
While the lawmaker was eventually allowed to enter the House chambers, she is facing growing questions about her possible role in assisting the deadly Jan. 6 riot on Capitol Hill. Just hours before the violence, she tweeted, “today is 1776.” In the days leading up to the unrest, Boebert made a spectacle of her intention to remain armed in the Capitol, earning another rebuke from local law enforcement.
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Boebert’s future husband, Jayson, also had brushes with law enforcement. In January 2004, he was arrested after allegedly exposing his penis to two women at a bowling alley, according to an arrest affidavit. Lauren Boebert (then age 17 and known as Lauren Opal Roberts) was also there. Jayson Boebert pleaded guilty to public indecency and lewd exposure, earning himself four days in jail and two years’ probation.


Fun read on the summary of legal issues of this fine upstanding citizen who allegedly was paid to boink Ted Cruz.

Yep its the NY Post, but no lies were told.

Suffer Well.
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Re: Muckrakers -the Boebert edition [50+] [ In reply to ]
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She is denying everything and is threatening legal action, regardless of what I think of her if she's telling the truth and it's all a smear campaign I hope she does sue and wins.

...https://www.foxnews.com/...g-claims-paid-escort

Too early to give her much credit on this. This is Trump legal tactic 101. Threaten to sue, quietly drop it later when it all blows over.

We'll see. If she goes through with this and isn't lying then she should win and win big.

How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?
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Re: Muckrakers -the Boebert edition [jmh] [ In reply to ]
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General statement. The allure of civil disobedience and corruption as a political attribute is fascinating pathology. It seems many people feel like chumps for being upstanding citizens, so they love and worship those who thumb their nose.
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Re: Muckrakers -the Boebert edition [jmh] [ In reply to ]
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I'm a Bayesian by training, so when I see a bunch of shit posted about Boebert, I have sufficient priors to think that the probability of the shit is close to 1.
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Re: Muckrakers -the Boebert edition [Francois] [ In reply to ]
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Francois wrote:
I'm a Bayesian by training, so when I see a bunch of shit posted about Boebert, I have sufficient priors to think that the probability of the shit is close to 1.

You should stay off jury pools with that attitude...

https://www.cnn.com/...gar-daddy/index.html
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Re: Muckrakers -the Boebert edition [mattbk] [ In reply to ]
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Francois wrote:
I'm a Bayesian by training, so when I see a bunch of shit posted about Boebert, I have sufficient priors to think that the probability of the shit is close to 1.

You should stay off jury pools with that attitude...

https://www.cnn.com/...gar-daddy/index.html

Close to 1… doesn’t mean 1. Reading carefully is required. Was very plausible.
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