Not trolls, but "Wacktivists", to steal a term from Musk. We got Biden due to the extremists offered up. There has to be better, but reasonable candidates are boring. You can claim we voted in the boring guy, but he was far from good candidate. A place holder while the parties hopefully get their shit together. I dont think Mayor Pete could beat DeSantis. You can't just put up reasonable smart people, they have to have the personality to lead and attract voters. Look at many CEOs, they act as the personalities while a COO can bury their head and work.

The wacko troll "conservatives" are a major reason why Nate Silver says the democrats may overcome the large deficit they face in midterms according to his Deluxe Model. He hasn't been able to factor Roe in yet, so that may sway things as well.


https://fivethirtyeight.com/...-but-not-the-senate/

I'm not confused in the least.

If that's the best the left could throw out to "not be Trump" then they really suck. They need a complete overhaul of how crazy their extremist end has moved. Both have absurdly bizarre extremist ends.

Come on, man. There is a difference. I might be hard for you to see, but there is a difference.

Nearly the whole of the GOP has embraced the Big Lie and other extreme points of view that abandon constitutional principles while rejecting the principles and values that defined it for decades.

The current mainstream GOP is unrecognizable from 10 years ago, the mainstream Dem party isn't much different than they were a decade ago.

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The crazy loud ones are the ones heard. That is not what I consider mainstream. Mainstream wants it to go away. I dont really know anyone pro Trump. Most that hate the progressive liberals cringed when he opened his mouth and wished would shut up. However these people fear the far left woke as fundamentally ruining the world. The mainstream dems are siding with the loud mouthed woke more and more. So are companies. They are terrorizing the country with their social media mob justice. I want both extremist ends gone. Maybe the maga crowd will slink back a bit after the Boeberts and MTGs are gone. When DeSantis takes the nomination from Trump he will be severely weakened. That and Garland may pursue charges.

The dems are definitely not like they were 10 years ago. There is no god damn compromise anymore. Its all or nothing from both extremes and no one listens to the rest. I have plenty of ideas on what I would like to see best. However I dont think I should get that. It would be unfair to the large population of people who don't agree. Its not that they agree with each other either. But, no one should get their way for all they want. Compromise is what is needed. Trade-offs are needed, policies that reflect what a majority can live with are needed. So fuck the far left, and fuck the far right. As neither will give a damn inch.

Are you saying the DeSantis or trump will be severely weaken when DeSantis takes the nomination? I could see both things being true. If DeSantis takes the nomination, trump will run third party or encourage people not to vote and sabotage the GOP thereby weakening DeSantis. Or if DeSantis take the nomination it would only come because trump (and trumpism) is weakened. Which did you mean?

I doubt MTG or Boebert are going away. And that speaks to my point, their existence as representatives has moved the mainstream further right.

We agree there is no compromise and that the extremes dominate, but we disagree that the GOP hasn't been dominated by what would be considered extreme 10 years ago.

I'm with you on saying a hearty fuck you to the far left, but I will say a double fuck you to the anti-Constitutional (dare I say anti-American) mainstream GOP that is extreme.

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I think I'm "the guy" who you supposedly "called out" for making what was intended as a light-hearted joke. Your "call outs" need to get better. You're obviously not as tough and credible as you seem to think you are. But I can see how it would be easy to make a mistake when you're furiously trying to dominate threads. (Go ahead, "call me out" for this. Just let me know you're doing it, so I won't miss it again, because I'm obviously not as smart or as articulate as you.)

We used to do that, not too long ago. Wacky candidates have always been around but they could be controlled by the national party who controlled the purse strings. If they got out of line they were punished. That is not true now. Geatz, Boebert, Greene, Gohmert, etc are able to trigger a flood of money just by acting nuts and spewing lies.

Currently there is no "both sides" when it comes to wackos. The issue is orders of magnitude worse on the right.....but that does not mean it can't happen. Left wing populism is spreading through Latin America. Left wing populism could spread like wild fire here in America and be equally as damaging.

I am still hopeful that America will snap out of this nuttiness and embrace intelligence again.