Dang, they added a lot of neat sounding features.

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I pre-ordered my 530 first thing this morning.

Garmin will have a massive chunk of my fitness wallet share this year...

damn, 530 looks great. I was thinking of a wahoo head unit but now having second thoughts!

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I just purchased a 520 Plus last month. Drat. Having said that, none of the new features look particularly compelling for the way I ride: well known routes in a flat area. I do like that they improved the battery life, added built in WiFi and added the ability to load apps. I'll bet if you do a lot of turn by turn navigation on unfamiliar roads or trails, these new features would be really nice additions.

Yeah, the 520 was ancient in technology time-- almost 4 years old. I had my 520 for about 3 years. This update was long overdue. The BOLT is only 2 years old, so maybe Wahoo will be doing something soon.

that's a good point. but at $299 the new 530 looks hard to beat

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Ditto that. My pre-ordered 530 cannot get here soon enough. I like that the case is black and the screen is both higher resolution and slightly bigger.

I almost ordered the 830, but decided that I do not care about the advanced mapping. And, I HATED the 820 with its horrific touch screen and abysmal battery life. That trial only lasted 2 days and sent me running back to my trusty 520.

I'm on the opposite end of that spectrum. I miss the touch screen of my old 510 and will be selling my 520 Plus shortly for an 830. My friend's 820 seems to work just fine and I just can't get my brain away from clicking buttons on the side vs. what I actually want to click on the screen.

My gut is that the 830 touchscreen is sorted. I also have a 1030 on my road bike, and that whole screen and UI is fantastic. I imagine that the 830 is just a smaller version of the same.

I really picked the 530 because I do not need the advanced nav stuff for my TT bike. And, it would be positioned right under my face and collect sweat drops. So, if it is sensitive at all to moisture, I would bring out the worst. That, and the longer battery life of the 530 is appealing to me.

I plan on using this mostly on a road bike and hoping to build it with the updated ultegra shifters with the hood buttons that allow you to flip pages.

I’m not keen on a touch screen either my old 810 became useless because of it

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I'm in for the 830, because I have high hopes for the touch screen. Especially when on the map screen and I want to zoom out, on the 520 it is dumb: top right button, switch auto zoom to manual, use the arrow buttons for In/Out. This has to be better with a down swipe or otherwise floating buttons on the screen, right?

First thing, I'm taking it into some muddy MTB. If it works there, I'll be happy. If it's terrible, I'll swap it for the 530 and $100.

Looking forward to it!

530 is all black. Purchasing.

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Doesn't seem they've fully adopted the phone app being able to fully configure activity types, pages, and data fields like the Wahoo. 900 button presses FTW!!!

That said, the trailforks MTB map support and new MTB related accelerometer data fields look cool for my purposes. Hopefully their stated battery life is legit. The bike alarm is also a cool little touch.

Still love my Wahoo Bolt, and interested to see what they have coming down the pipe. I have to imagine Wahoo already knew that Garmin had the 530 in the works being it has been 3 years (I don't think the 520 plus really counts). I would hold off considering Garmin's track record of new product bugs and to see if Wahoo may have something coming soon as well.

I've been waiting for the successor to the 820. My 820 has been great, but the 830 is checking the boxes I've been wanting checked (and then some). For ultra-endurance races, being able to "hard connect" to the newer Garmin battery will be a big deal. Using cable connections for auxiliary batteries doesn't work all that well -- requires constant attention. It's odd, but that's the difference that's pushing me over the edge. (Pun not intended.)

I pre-ordered my 830 this morning. I just wish I could take delivery before Saturday's race!

...geez, no kidding. That would be nice.

Especially considering that service's first troubleshooting step is often: "Let's do a factory reset".

Oh well, It is certainly a pain, but only needs done every year or two.

Wow. I was just about to buy a bolt to replace an older Garmin head unit. Probably going with the 530 after reading the DC Rainmaker review this morning. Thanks for posting!

Same for me, the wahoo is in my amazon shopping cart, now probably going for the 830.

Yep, total PITA. I just got a 1030. I opened a bottle of wine and sat on the couch with all my Ant+ bits and my 520 to setup the 1030 just like the 520. One huge advantage of the 830 is the touchscreen-- setting up a Edge with a touchscreen is radically easier than the non-touchscreen versions. I almost pre-ordered the 830 just for the easier setup.

For me the two coolest features are time and distance to the top of hill you are on, and also the trailforks integration for the MTB riding. Very good idea for Garmin to build out MTB functionality because that is where the market is exploding right now.

The visual to the top of the hill will be great for courses you have not ridden but are racing.

I agree. I like tactile buttons you can press with muscle memory vs. touchscreens where you generally have to look at the unit while you're navigating through screens. Also touchscreens tend not to work great with gloves (though not sure about this one). Annoying to have to take gloves off in freezing weather just to hit start or something. They also tend to not work great when wet which can get super annoying. (though also not sure about this one).

Yeah, I'm hoping the TS works well with gloves. Early reviews say its pretty good.

However, to your specific example above, the start/stop and lap buttons are both physical buttons still.

It probably depends more on the gloves than the screen.

That said, if the 830 screen is similar to the 1030, it should be OK. I have these gloves (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00K0NJ9JK), and they work with a 1030. It sometimes takes a repeat or more deliberate action to get a response, but it works.

Yeah for me as well the trailforks integration is huge.
I am still running a 800, great for navigating road rides but useless out on the trail.

I'm in for the 530. Anyone want to buy my 520+

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Actually, there's a way (at least on the 520) to export all your settings and then import them back after the factory reset. Last time I did a reset Garmin support told me about this hidden feature. Not sure if you can export from 520 and then import into 530/830, the config file would need to be backwards compatible.

This has really been a PITA with Garmin for years, despite many complaints. Much easier to configure the device online (e.g. suunto) or smartphone (wahoo), or better yet on all three.

One man's "works" is another man's "annoyance" is another man's "this is a POS"

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Haha, yeah. My “POS” baseline was the 820. By that standard, the 1030 is a miracle in the worst conditions.

I might be interested, but my 800 is still rocking along. The longer I keep it, the more money it will be worth to a museum.

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I'm closer to the feathered end of the spear than the point.

I dug into the file tree and found that config file. I do not remember exactly, but I think it was encoded and garbled. If it was pretty much plain text and easily parseable, I would've saved it and copied it back in. For some reason, I did not, simply because I thought that whatever was causing my issue (crashes) might be in that file.

Like exxccvvvviiiii said above, it is not only the data screens, but all of the connected ANT+ devices with their specific names.

It'd be fantastic to have a better way to sort that out. (This was basically my big wish, reading through the device reviews. Oh well.)

There is really no reason they can't allow you to configure and save all this stuff on your Garmin connect account and push the settings that are applicable to the given deive (sensors, sensor names, wifi, data screens, etc) over to any device you have.

This is a way better announcement than the lame announcement from Wahoo on April 11.

Which do you think is better is better for daily usage and several vacations abroad: 530 or 830?

830:
1) can navigate to point on map. Sometime you see interesting road and would like to check and change your route.
2) POI + addresses, but I asked some people, and non of them uses navigate to address or POI of their's 1030.
530:
1) cannot navigate to point on map (or scroll map)
2) zoom in/out is not easy.

question for the thread...

what do y'all think an original 520 is worth? it's well used but I've never had any trouble with it. $100? Trying to decide if I can justify upgrading to the 530.

It's truly a personal "is it worth it" decision. It looks like the specs are essentially identical. If the 830 UI is anything like the 1030, then the 830 UI will be really nice.

I did not think that I would ever use the direct POI mapping feature. I always have my iPhone with me on a ride, and in almost my entire life of riding, I had the route planned beforehand and did not deviate. And, I decided that I wanted a non-touch screen for my TT bike.

I have a 1030 on my road bike. And, if I were buying one of these two new ones for the road bike, I probably would have chosen the 830. I love the 1030.

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So... has anyone heard anything about ship dates for the 530?

I pre-ordered mine on announcement date, but have not heard anything since. I was amazed that I got my 945 the same week as announce date, so I am hoping that I will see the 530 soon.

My Clever Training pre-order:

Garmin Edge 530 GPS Cycling Computer (Pre-order : Expected Early May)FeaturesComputer Only

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I have to wait and order through the garmin website and it's now saying available 3-5 weeks (originally said 2-3), so guessing they had higher than anticipated interest in the 530.

Ordered from Amazon: Arriving May 30 - Jun 27

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Clever Training has a very liberal definition of early May. I ordered the 530 along with the 245 and learned they have a dumb policy where they do not ship as the items are available so they were not shipping me until they had both. I asked when that would be and they said the earliest on the 530 was May 15. Seems a bit shady to say early May if the earliest you'll have it is the midpoint of the month.

At least on the Clevertraining UK site, the date was changed today from Early May to Late May.....whatever that means...

looks like all of the UK stores are moving the delivery dates to late May. Money tied up for a another few weeks

From clevertaining: "there has been a delay from the manufacturer in to our warehouse and therefore, it is looking to be late May before the products arrive in to ourselves."

Oh well....

My 830 is ordered from Wiggle and has apparently shipped.

i read that wiggle is the preferred dealer for garmin...so they get delivered first...lucky you 😊

I was told by Clevertraining UK that it will ship next week (530). I called them yesterday.

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My day 1 order (for the 830) just shipped today from CT. It should be here by the weekend. It'd be cool to have it on my Thursday night group ride, but moreso for the weekend to try out the trail features on mountain bike.

Ditto. My CT order shipped yesterday and USPS says it will arrive tomorrow. I cannot wait!

Mine, ordered from BikeTiresDirect arrived yesterday.

I just ordered an 820 from Clever Training for $260; super happy with the new announcements! Perfect timing as my 510 has decided to start fucking with me (when powered on it went to this weird screen with all sorts of tests and then went to some sort of screen test with bands of different colors; I powered it on and off half a dozen times and tried all kinds of resets; later I went to show my wife I needed a new cycling computer and it powered on just fine, you could hear it laughing, I swear).

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Just picked up mine at REI yesterday. Surprised they had them in stock!

I just received mine from BTD. Its first ride will be tomorrow morning.

Imagine that . . . a bike-related product with less than 8 months between "intro date" and first availability! Shimano should observe closely and learn!

I will say that my 510 is still working like a charm with no issues. However, the issues with touchscreen for me are when it gets dirty while riding. Having it change pages or getting it to stop, or lost in a menut trying to get back to my ride screen--after I try cleaning that screen off. Sometimes in a race, I have sugary mix or gel on it, or snot in the winter, then you try cleaning it off & you're many clicks away from the screen you were on. I don't know all the menus that well & just use pretty much one screen with 10 data boxes on it.

I have others set up with less boxes, but like all the data. The 510 is all I need...until it dies I'll be using it.

So far I am loving the new 530. The screen is like a zillion times better than my old 520 screen. And, the UI seems a little more streamlined. Still takes a couple hours worth of clicks for initial setup, but that is once every few years, so I can live with it. I cannot wait to ride with it now.

First impressions of the 830: I have set up my 830 and have taken it for a training ride using a 1-hour Training Peaks-generated interval workout. Here are my impressions compared to the 820 . . .

• The 830 is slightly bigger with a bigger screen. For graphic screens, that's great! For data screens, I'm not sure it makes any difference. The numerals inside the cells don't look meaningfully bigger . . . but there's now even MORE wasted space on both sides of those readouts! Garmin, how about, for big horizontal cells, putting the legend on the left hand side and letting the numerals take up the entire height of the cell?
• The 830 is much more refined. The materials and design make it look and feel much more upscale than the 820.
• The 830's lap and start buttons, while still on the bottom edge of the unit, are now much closer to the screen. While the bigger size of the device makes the bottom edge just a tad closer to your handlebar (on an out front mount), the fact that the buttons are near the top means they are easier to reach and push than the old buttons.
• The 830's charge port is now on the bottom edge where it is more accessible. No longer do you have to balance the computer on its side or place it upside down when charging. (I also like that you don't have to use the mini-USB for auxiliary batteries. I'm looking forward to my first ultra-endurance race with the hard connected auxiliary battery.)
• The setup process for the 830 is different. In some aspects, I like it better than for previous Edge computers. In other aspects, I think it will be easy to grow accustomed to. There are a LOT more options with this computer -- more choices to make. The array of features is mind-boggling. (I hope I can remember where I found the features I want to use.)
• This is my first use of a Training Peaks-generated workout on an Edge workout page. I'm not sure there's anything new about it. But for an interval workout, I liked it. It displays time remaining on your interval, a graphical display for the range of power designated for the interval, a continuous "pointer" that shows where you are within or without that range, and a graph that shows how you've been doing relative to the power range (above or below or where within). I'm not sure I will use it for lengthy steady state workouts, but for intervals, it does all the time tracking for you. Easy to use. Nice.
• "Reaction time" of the 830 is much, much faster than for the 820. The faster processor works. It changes the user experience. Satellite acquisition is instantaneous. Power meter calibration is much faster. It's a better experience all the way around.
• And let's get back to power meter calibration. With the 820, calibration of a Garmin Vector was always quick and easy. But if your power meter happened to be made by somebody else, Garmin punished you for it. It took one swipe and SIX button pushes to calibrate a Stages power meter and six button pushes to get back out after you were done. With the 830, life is good . . . even for owners of non-Garmin power meters! With the 830, you awaken your power meter, swipe down, and voila! The power meter calibration button is RIGHT THERE! One swipe. One button push. And. You're. Done! Thanks, Garmin! This improvement is much appreciated. And it impacts every ride I take.

Well, those are my impressions after day one. When you open the box on your new 830, allocate a couple hours for map and software updates. But once the unit is up and ready, it's a great experience. In my opinion, it's a big improvement over the 820. (Anyone want to buy a used Edge 820 in excellent condition?)

Just git my 830 today. Having hard time with getting trainingpeaks... Is it not preloaded on it like the 520+?? I have gone to the I apps and typed in training peaks but doesn't show up? Any help or suggestions?

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I believe the training peaks CIQ is gone now that Garmin has the new training api function. I noticed a small Garmin badge in a TP workout saying my workout was synced through Garmin Connect. I believe if you do this you can just go into the workouts section on the 830 and find your workout.

I see that badge also but when u go to workouts in the 830 there are no workouts. Also nothing under training plan.

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The reviews on REI are reporting issues with the back button. Does your unit have any issues?

No issues on mine, so far.

I haven’t noticed anything. What is the described problem?

I got a workout to sync from TP to my 530. I added a workout from my workout library via my iPad and the TR app and after 4-5 minutes and syncing again via GCM it showed up under Training Plans on the 530 not in Workouts sectionand it’s also on the GCM calendar. I then deleted the workout on TP and it did delete from GCM but took a few minutes. However it still has not deleted from the 530.

What I did notice is a structured workout I did on Monday does show in Workout section on the 530.

They're complaining that the back button can be unresponsive or require an excessive amount of pressure to engage.

I have not noticed anything like that. Works like a charm.

So how are people getting on with the 530's and 830's now that they've been out a few months?

I've never seen such a pushback from reviewers and online media in terms of criticism of these devices when they launched; I think we all know that's par-for-the-course with Garmin and maybe it just represents a lot of pent-up frustration from over the years of expectation/marketing hype vs reality.

Has the recent firmware update fixed most of the issues?

Are they usable (and reliable!) on a day-to-day basis now?

And are they a tangible upgrade over the 520 and 820 respectively?

Apologies for the double-post, but I wanted to ask you specifically about the 830.

Firstly, you can calibrate a PM with an 820 using exactly the procedure you describe for the 830; swipe from top, click on the "Power Meter Connected" banner and it should take you straight to the calibration page! That's what I do with my Quarq DZero every time, swipe and two button presses, not six!

Anyway, would you say that the 830 is a tangible upgrade over the 820? Is the touchscreen any better than the 820, can you actually use it in wet-weather?!

I have the 820 and wondering whether to upgrade (or downgrade) to either of these; I like the idea of the longer (and expandable) battery life and larger screen, but not sure that's really enough.

I pre-ordered my 530 at launch. I love it. It is a huge upgrade from the 520 if you use the mapping. Plus, the little features are sweet. ClimbPro is fantastic on major climbs. Its only fault is that you need to have preloaded the route. So, I probably will not be using it in the Nice WC course, though it would be a nice-to-have.

I have not observed any glitches or issues with mine at all. It just works. The UI is better than the 520 for initial setup and starting a ride. The slightly larger screen size of the 530 is very nice.

The 820 was a total disaster of a product. I had one briefly and wanted to crush it on the side of the road. The touch screen was unusable with sweaty hands, and its battery could not cover a century ride-- it consistently died at around 80 miles.I have not used the 830, but I do have a 1030. If the 830's touch screen is improved to the 1030's standard, then the 830 would be fantastic. And, I think they improved the 830 battery life too. The overall touch screen UI is way better than the 530's button-based UI. I debated the two, and went with the 530 because I like the hard-button simplicity, and it is dedicated to my TT bike. I use the 1030 on my road bike, where I use the mapping features more often. (And, there is no room to mount the 1030 between my TT extensions.)