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Re: Kona and Age Group Power [sgy] [ In reply to ]
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Think I might have to try them power crank contraptions. Still have the ones and BB adapter that were on the Blue, Send with shirt :0)
Btw also rev3 ATlantic City looks to be fun

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Re: Kona and Age Group Power [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]
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totally unrelated and i don't want to hijack but can i ask what those tri shorts are? Pretty sure they are kiwami as per your signature but just wanted to know. That is just about what i am looking to buy for next season. Thanks!

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Re: Kona and Age Group Power [snoop] [ In reply to ]
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Re: Kona and Age Group Power [amgray13] [ In reply to ]
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You should be interested in TSS as well. If you have your threshold power numbers right you should be biking somewhere around 280 - 300 TSS for the ride, for a chance on the run as well.

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Re: Kona and Age Group Power [31CapeHorn] [ In reply to ]
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31CapeHorn wrote:
good grief, no wonder I'm MOP. I hold 230w on sprint races and it hurts. If I'm 200w for HIM I struggle mightily on the run, and for IM I'm below 200 or I'm walking. You guys are ridiculously strong.

Was thinking the same thing! These are hardly "mere mortals" numbers.
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Re: Kona and Age Group Power [Natrl DIZZ] [ In reply to ]
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Natrl DIZZ wrote:
My long runs are a mostly a mix of steady effort and tempo. Not alot of speed work. I come from a running background so I spend a significantly greater amount of time on the bike than I do running now.

interesting that you do that, i too have a running background though not as good as your own, i cycled with you at kona (i am not a stalker but know you by sight after zofingen) , coming in just behind you in 5-09, though i only ran a 3-15

what is your bike to run ratio in miles terms out of interest - i know that tells me nothing about intensity but i need to improve my bike, i just dont bike enough but also lack time so wondering whether i just cut down on the run

many thanks

steve
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Re: Kona and Age Group Power [amgray13] [ In reply to ]
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Re: Kona and Age Group Power [drluke12] [ In reply to ]
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I was using a Quarq ELSA. People questioned my power output at IM Texas this year where I did a 4:48 on 207W Avg and 211 NP...that time also included a pit stop to change a flat (power was stopped during that period).

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Re: Kona and Age Group Power [jmaley] [ In reply to ]
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when I see your setup I see most of the low hanging fruit taken up, great choices.

I was 4:54 at 180lbs at 211 AP, which I also consider to be pretty good from a watts/speed perspective. It can be done.



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I was using a Quarq ELSA. People questioned my power output at IM Texas this year where I did a 4:48 on 207W Avg and 211 NP...that time also included a pit stop to change a flat (power was stopped during that period).

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Re: Kona and Age Group Power [amgray13] [ In reply to ]
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165 lbs
6'0"
236 NP
0.75 IF (usually .77 - .79)
4:55

Glute seized up as i got on bike. Came right after 25 min.
Had a terrible run despite holding back on the bike. 3:29 and I was aiming for 3:00-3:10. Can't figure it out, it didn't feel particularly hot to me plus I was well acclimated. Maybe it was a remnant of the glute issue. But I've noticed a lot of guys who expected to run around 3 hours, joining me in 3:30ish

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Re: Kona and Age Group Power [robgray] [ In reply to ]
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so we are saying 200w = 5hrs this year.......Drafting much ?
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Re: Kona and Age Group Power [trek52] [ In reply to ]
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trek52 wrote:
so we are saying 200w = 5hrs this year.......Drafting much ?

Nope.
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Re: Kona and Age Group Power [trek52] [ In reply to ]
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trek52 wrote:
so we are saying 200w = 5hrs this year.......Drafting much ?

Yep, from what I saw, the drafting was ridiculous.
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Re: Kona and Age Group Power [sgy] [ In reply to ]
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sgy wrote:
jamgam wrote:
sgy wrote:
http://www.trainingpeaks.com/...2ERDSQFNGGMHR3A3QKX4
Bike split was 4h29 and a bit. It was not too warm and not windy most of the day so perfect for fast times!
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365 TSS and still ran a 3 hr marathon (if I'm remembering right) or is your FTP low in TP?

I think my FTP is set at 300W in TP but guess it is a bit higher in reality :-)
But my run sucked a bit indeed... Next time better I hope...
It is probably all this training with powercranks that makes me so slow. Also, I taped gels on my top tube in a very unaerodynamic way (which was good for a topic on this forum after my Kona race in 2011), and last but not least: my seat is probably way too high ;-)
Sam

I followed your race very closely online Sam as a close friend of mine was close behind in your AG.
Great execution yet again,well done !

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Re: Kona and Age Group Power [sgy] [ In reply to ]
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So many fast Belgians. Male winner, fastest bike splits in women's and AG men, AG winners in M 35-39 and M50-54.

Must be something in the water there!
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Re: Kona and Age Group Power [amgray13] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks for posting. I had 229/235W for 4:50, and I'm pretty amazed by some of these numbers. Anyways, I am bored flying back from Kona so I took a closer look. What I find most interesting is the cluster of guys riding the same time (~4:50) with huge distribution in power (190-270). Any ideas why that is? ;)



Too few points to get a good read, but for this sample time and power are highly correlated (r = -0.75).
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Re: Kona and Age Group Power [avagoyamug] [ In reply to ]
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avagoyamug wrote:
So many fast Belgians. Male winner, fastest bike splits in women's and AG men, AG winners in M 35-39 and M50-54.

Must be something in the water there!

Actually, it is in our beer ;-) But on the other hand, beer is made of water so you might be right...
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Re: Kona and Age Group Power [jmaley] [ In reply to ]
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jmaley wrote:
I was using a Quarq ELSA. People questioned my power output at IM Texas this year where I did a 4:48 on 207W Avg and 211 NP...that time also included a pit stop to change a flat (power was stopped during that period).

I was floored by your numbers then and I am floored by your numbers now. Maybe you're just really really aero. In any event, great effort out there, again.

Have you ever thrown your bike on a CompuTrainer or other power trainer and gut checked the Quarq?
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Re: Kona and Age Group Power [sgy] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks for clarifying.

Puts my mind at ease.
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Re: Kona and Age Group Power [kileyay] [ In reply to ]
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Yup. I ride on a CT a lot of the time and the numbers are normally in very good agreement. Also for what it is worth I used a Quarq Rotor PM for Texas and a brand new Quarq ELSA for Kona. So two different PMs have given me virtually the same power output for two different races.

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Re: Kona and Age Group Power [trek52] [ In reply to ]
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trek52 wrote:
so we are saying 200w = 5hrs this year.......Drafting much ?

Where do you get 200w from? I said I did 236

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Re: Kona and Age Group Power [kileyay] [ In reply to ]
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kileyay wrote:
Thanks for posting. I had 229/235W for 4:50, and I'm pretty amazed by some of these numbers. Anyways, I am bored flying back from Kona so I took a closer look. What I find most interesting is the cluster of guys riding the same time (~4:50) with huge distribution in power (190-270). Any ideas why that is? ;)



Too few points to get a good read, but for this sample time and power are highly correlated (r = -0.75).

Weight of the rider has to be the biggest difference. I weigh 130 lbs, my FTP is 205 (now I have never KQ, but trying to make the point), so at .75 I am at 152 watts which gets me to about a 5:20-5:30 split. Theoretically, at 180 watts I can get in around 5 hours....in my dreams. I now realize I am not qualified to post on this thread.
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Re: Kona and Age Group Power [kileyay] [ In reply to ]
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kileyay wrote:
Thanks for posting. I had 229/235W for 4:50, and I'm pretty amazed by some of these numbers. Anyways, I am bored flying back from Kona so I took a closer look. What I find most interesting is the cluster of guys riding the same time (~4:50) with huge distribution in power (190-270). Any ideas why that is? ;)



Too few points to get a good read, but for this sample time and power are highly correlated (r = -0.75).


Nice to see you out there. Just for everyone's benefit, can you post how tall you are, kilos and also watts per kilo (well we'll get that once you post kilos). I did exactly 3W per kilo for 5:21, but as I mentioned, there is some low hanging fruit to work on my position when my neck gets better (if). There are other aspects of my set up that I give away some speed on for ease of travel and maintenance (or cheapness....ex: using 7 year old race wheels)
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Re: Kona and Age Group Power [kileyay] [ In reply to ]
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A picture is worth a thousand words. Thanks for the chart. I think most have provided their weight; if you have the time and desire, could you post watts/kilo by time? We should see a pretty straight line with high and low outliers indicating various things we armchair st'ers can debate.
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Re: Kona and Age Group Power [kny] [ In reply to ]
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While W/kg is a good benchmark, as was pointed out by Tom A. in a different thread - kona is still heavily weighted towards W/cDa
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