I know you are using his words but I would not consider 23miles/hr in Kona even close to being a " bad" day.
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Re: Kona and Age Group Power [The Phoenix]
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Re: Kona and Age Group Power [afbadbrad]
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Re: Kona and Age Group Power [jackmott]
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If that power number is legit, allow us to aero-plan for you, so that you can become world champion.
Or at least crush the bike record...
Or at least crush the bike record...
Re: Kona and Age Group Power [devashish_paul]
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I also did Tremblant (4:53) and Kona (4:45) with identical setups (save for a Rudy Project helmet vs LG Super Legerra), and was 8 minutes faster. Power was the same on both courses and I was the same weight.
Last year on 4 watts less power I was a 5:06 at Kona.
Ken
"the trick is to keep losing weight until your friends and family ask you if you've been sick. then you know you're within 10 pounds. if they start whispering to each other, wondering if you've got cancer or aids, you're within 5. when they actually do an intervention, you're at race weight." - Slowman
Last year on 4 watts less power I was a 5:06 at Kona.
Ken
"the trick is to keep losing weight until your friends and family ask you if you've been sick. then you know you're within 10 pounds. if they start whispering to each other, wondering if you've got cancer or aids, you're within 5. when they actually do an intervention, you're at race weight." - Slowman
Re: Kona and Age Group Power [Natrl DIZZ]
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picture of your setup?
for reference, I rode 4:54 on 211 crank-based watts at 180lbs.
Time: 5:09:59
Avg W: 228W
NP: 238W
Max Avg (20min): 255W
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/390971691
The above (along with smart nutrition and heat management) set me up great for the run I was hoping for:
Time: 2:56:xx
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/390971724
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for reference, I rode 4:54 on 211 crank-based watts at 180lbs.
Natrl DIZZ wrote:
Wgt: 168lbs Time: 5:09:59
Avg W: 228W
NP: 238W
Max Avg (20min): 255W
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/390971691
The above (along with smart nutrition and heat management) set me up great for the run I was hoping for:
Time: 2:56:xx
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/390971724
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Re: Kona and Age Group Power [redtdi]
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Last year on 4 watts less power I was a 5:06 at Kona.I picked the *wrong* year to skip kona.
Re: Kona and Age Group Power [ericM40-44]
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Re: Kona and Age Group Power [sentania]
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holy crap.
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Re: Kona and Age Group Power [sentania]
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sentania wrote:
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Last year on 4 watts less power I was a 5:06 at Kona.I picked the *wrong* year to skip kona.
You and me both! ;) But relative placing stats the same, so unless your just PR hunting, Kona is a race for place, not pace.
-Of course it's 'effing hard, it's IRONMAN!
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Re: Kona and Age Group Power [Bryancd]
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I would have moved up at least 5 places over last year with a PR....
Next year :)
Next year :)
Re: Kona and Age Group Power [jmaley]
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How on earth do you manage a 4:49 bike split on only 210 NP. What power meter do you use?
That's an awesome bike time! Congrats!!
That's an awesome bike time! Congrats!!
Re: Kona and Age Group Power [amgray13]
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4:54
211 AP
229 NP
58:50 swim
3:23 run
197th OV
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211 AP
229 NP
58:50 swim
3:23 run
197th OV
Eric Reid AeroFit | Instagram Portfolio
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“You are experiencing the criminal coverup of a foreign backed fascist hostile takeover of a mafia shakedown of an authoritarian religious slow motion coup. Persuade people to vote for Democracy.”
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Re: Kona and Age Group Power [sentania]
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sentania wrote:
I would have moved up at least 5 places over last year with a PR.... Next year :)
Great, I could have been 21st, whoopee. ;) 2015 for me, I got a baby to help raise!
-Of course it's 'effing hard, it's IRONMAN!
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Re: Kona and Age Group Power [Bryancd]
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Bryancd wrote:
sentania wrote:
I would have moved up at least 5 places over last year with a PR.... Next year :)
Great, I could have been 21st, whoopee. ;) 2015 for me, I got a baby to help raise!
Poor guy thinks it'll be easier when the kid is 3. At least you had a good run for a few years!
Re: Kona and Age Group Power [acumenjay]
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acumenjay wrote:
Bryancd wrote:
sentania wrote:
I would have moved up at least 5 places over last year with a PR.... Next year :)
Great, I could have been 21st, whoopee. ;) 2015 for me, I got a baby to help raise!
Poor guy thinks it'll be easier when the kid is 3. At least you had a good run for a few years!
Denial is a river in Egypt and I live on it's banks. He'll be 2 1/2, at least the wife is on board. :)
-Of course it's 'effing hard, it's IRONMAN!
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Re: Kona and Age Group Power [acumenjay]
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ok, try this link:
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/391394757
7 watts different than Lake Placid but 51 minutes different on the run! Heat was not my friend Saturday. I totally agree that you race for place here and not time. I had nothing to lose by going for it on the bike but if you are a better fish it seemed like you could get into a pack of guys and save a ton of energy and throw down a great run. Oh well, live and learn.
Josh
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/391394757
7 watts different than Lake Placid but 51 minutes different on the run! Heat was not my friend Saturday. I totally agree that you race for place here and not time. I had nothing to lose by going for it on the bike but if you are a better fish it seemed like you could get into a pack of guys and save a ton of energy and throw down a great run. Oh well, live and learn.
Josh
Re: Kona and Age Group Power [joshjan]
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Seriously, go find a pic of Kienle, study it, replicate it, then take the bike course record next year =)
Just walk the marathon, go all in!
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/391394757
7 watts different than Lake Placid but 51 minutes different on the run! Heat was not my friend Saturday. I totally agree that you race for place here and not time. I had nothing to lose by going for it on the bike but if you are a better fish it seemed like you could get into a pack of guys and save a ton of energy and throw down a great run. Oh well, live and learn.
Josh
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Just walk the marathon, go all in!
joshjan wrote:
ok, try this link: http://connect.garmin.com/activity/391394757
7 watts different than Lake Placid but 51 minutes different on the run! Heat was not my friend Saturday. I totally agree that you race for place here and not time. I had nothing to lose by going for it on the bike but if you are a better fish it seemed like you could get into a pack of guys and save a ton of energy and throw down a great run. Oh well, live and learn.
Josh
Kat Hunter reports on the San Dimas Stage Race from inside the GC winning team
Aeroweenie.com -Compendium of Aero Data and Knowledge
Freelance sports & outdoors writer Kathryn Hunter
Re: Kona and Age Group Power [sgy]
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Re: Kona and Age Group Power [joshjan]
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Those are some pretty amazing numbers if they're accurate/ power meter is calibrated properly. The trainingpeaks analysis of McKenzie and Faris showed they rode around 280 Watts for their ride.
You should look into optimizing your fit and bike setup - I have to imagine you're leaving some free speed out there.
You should look into optimizing your fit and bike setup - I have to imagine you're leaving some free speed out there.
Re: Kona and Age Group Power [The Phoenix]
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The Phoenix wrote:
Darkhorse, was it due to an injury? Or did you just have a bad day?It was a bad day, of which I have had very few throughout the years. My legs were burning from the very start of the ride. Sucks, but I'm over it.
Scott: the unit is brand new to me and I didn't want to dick with it right before the race. I know it needs an update. :)
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Re: Kona and Age Group Power [TriBeer]
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TriBeer wrote:
You're being too hard on yourself. ;)I think the time and the watts look ok from just looking at the numbers. I rode about what I wanted for four hours, but it was a struggle. I was just hoping my legs would come around during the second half of the ride...and kept telling myself the fitness was there...it just decided not to show up on race day! As it was, the legs were hurting pretty much the whole ride. I was able to pull something together for about 15 miles on the run, but it just wasn't meant to be on this day.
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Re: Kona and Age Group Power [joshjan]
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that would be really impressive IF you had ridden the entire course...but since you only rode 111.99 miles...much less so ;)
Re: Kona and Age Group Power [natethomas]
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natethomas wrote:
sgy wrote:
http://www.trainingpeaks.com/...2ERDSQFNGGMHR3A3QKX4 Bike split was 4h29 and a bit. It was not too warm and not windy most of the day so perfect for fast times!
Sam
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Sam, you were over 20 min faster on the bike at Kona than at IMMT. Did you put out similar power at Tremblant? Were the conditions just that perfect at Kona for really fast bike times?
In Mt-Tremblant I missed T2 and biked 3 extra miles which included slowly navigating back so you have to deduct 8 minutes to have my 'real' Mt-Tremblant time. My IMMT bike average was 275W.
Sam
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Re: Kona and Age Group Power [sentania]
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sciguy wrote:
Great race Sam. Where you rocking those Qrings again on Saturday? Thanks,
Hugh
Tnx!
Training on powercranks - racing on Rotor QXL rings!
Sam
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