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Re: Where to get Vaporfly 4%? Wow is it hard to find. [DesertTriGuy] [ In reply to ]
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I do on mine. No issues at all
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Re: Where to get Vaporfly 4%? Wow is it hard to find. [Francois] [ In reply to ]
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How are the epic reacts? Looking for a high mileage softer shoe.

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FTR, the epic flyknit react feel fantastic for half the price.
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Re: Where to get Vaporfly 4%? Wow is it hard to find. [EnderWiggan] [ In reply to ]
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I think they are super responsive and very nice for any distance in training. Durability will likely be an issue. Haven't run in them long enough to know.
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Re: Where to get Vaporfly 4%? Wow is it hard to find. [Francois] [ In reply to ]
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How would they compare to the Zoom Fly? (Non 4% version).

Francois wrote:
I think they are super responsive and very nice for any distance in training. Durability will likely be an issue. Haven't run in them long enough to know.
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Re: Where to get Vaporfly 4%? Wow is it hard to find. [EnderWiggan] [ In reply to ]
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I have the fly too not the vapor. I find the react more responsive and I really like the fit and the somewhat elastic contour around the ankle. It is easy on my fragile Achilles so a definite plus.
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Re: Where to get Vaporfly 4%? Wow is it hard to find. [DesertTriGuy] [ In reply to ]
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I do. Not a problem for me. I make sure to loosen them up completely after use just to not stress the upper.

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Re: Where to get Vaporfly 4%? Wow is it hard to find. [Francois] [ In reply to ]
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There is another shoe coming on the 19th with a bit more rubber on the bottom. New version of the Odyssey.
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Re: Where to get Vaporfly 4%? Wow is it hard to find. [chicanery] [ In reply to ]
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While I'm a big fan of the Zoom Fly, I have a moral problem with spending $250 on a pair of short-lived shoes. That's me, though.
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Re: Where to get Vaporfly 4%? Wow is it hard to find. [hiro11] [ In reply to ]
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I think we all do. Its pretty crazy.

But there will be some trickle down this year, and the Fly will get React foam and the carbon plate without raising the price much. Should come in belkw a lot of the boost stuff.

The zoom X foam will probably maintain a premium though.
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Re: Where to get Vaporfly 4%? Wow is it hard to find. [hiro11] [ In reply to ]
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Can you expand on your comment, "short-lived shoes"? My expectation is to use this as a race shoe only and not for training. Figure by doing this, it would extend the life of the shoe. Just want to know what to expect from these in regards to wear and tear.
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Re: Where to get Vaporfly 4%? Wow is it hard to find. [DesertTriGuy] [ In reply to ]
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It’s an interesting question because if you only use the shoe a few times a year for racing, theoretically couldn’t it last forever? Or does time degrade the material?

I’ve often wondered this, would appreciate any insights people have as I’ve never “saved” a shoe for racing only.
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Re: Where to get Vaporfly 4%? Wow is it hard to find. [hiro11] [ In reply to ]
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I went through the thought process that I spend like $50 max on my training shoes and even if these only last 150-200 miles that is basically two full seasons of races. I have shoes that I only raced in that lasted me 3 seasons and only got new ones because I wanted to. If these shoes are better than the zoom flys I think they are worth their price.

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Re: Where to get Vaporfly 4%? Wow is it hard to find. [jrielley] [ In reply to ]
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I can now confirm the Vaporflys live up to the hype.

I have 2 pairs of Zoom Fly, a pair of Epic Reacts, and a pair of Vapor Streets.

The Fly is stiff and soft. Very fine shoe that I do a majority of my training in. Minimal rubber on the heal, but I am a midfoot striker, so no worries there.

The Epic React is good on clear pavement. Any rockyness transfers a bit through the sole. Its very bouncy, and the upper is great. Not stiff enough for me to run in regularly. My foot strike is in the foam, and misses the rubber sole, so wear will be an issue.

The Vapor Street is killer. I did 6 miles in them the other day, and while I am fat and not in good shape, I had a nice run in them. They are not exactly intended to be runners, but they have the right ingredients.

The Vaporfly 4% blew me away. The amount of squish is incredible. I can't imagine having joint pain after running in them. The Zoom X foam is indeed a revalation beyond Boost and React.

Ordered the Odyssey Reacts this morning. We will see what those are like soon. Hoping for a little more stiffness.
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Re: Where to get Vaporfly 4%? Wow is it hard to find. [chicanery] [ In reply to ]
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I haven't ran in mine yet but after trying them on it really seems like they give an extra spring each step. I hope to get them out on the road this weekend because I am getting excited to test them out.

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Re: Where to get Vaporfly 4%? Wow is it hard to find. [jrielley] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah they feel like a different shoe that the regular zoom fly. The soft and squish is nice in the vaporfly. Plus they fit my foot so well. I’m a 10.5 in the zoom but my standard 9.5 in the vaporfly.

If anyone wants a 10 in the vaporfly let me know before it goes back to Nike. I’ll sell for $300 shipped. PM me if interested.
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Re: Where to get Vaporfly 4%? Wow is it hard to find. [chicanery] [ In reply to ]
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Great review, thanks man. I’m trying to convince myself to go the cheaper react vs 4%, looking for a cushioned responsive ride. Currently in the Brooks Ghost.

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I can now confirm the Vaporflys live up to the hype.

I have 2 pairs of Zoom Fly, a pair of Epic Reacts, and a pair of Vapor Streets.

The Fly is stiff and soft. Very fine shoe that I do a majority of my training in. Minimal rubber on the heal, but I am a midfoot striker, so no worries there.

The Epic React is good on clear pavement. Any rockyness transfers a bit through the sole. Its very bouncy, and the upper is great. Not stiff enough for me to run in regularly. My foot strike is in the foam, and misses the rubber sole, so wear will be an issue.

The Vapor Street is killer. I did 6 miles in them the other day, and while I am fat and not in good shape, I had a nice run in them. They are not exactly intended to be runners, but they have the right ingredients.

The Vaporfly 4% blew me away. The amount of squish is incredible. I can't imagine having joint pain after running in them. The Zoom X foam is indeed a revalation beyond Boost and React.

Ordered the Odyssey Reacts this morning. We will see what those are like soon. Hoping for a little more stiffness.
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Re: Where to get Vaporfly 4%? Wow is it hard to find. [chicanery] [ In reply to ]
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When do you think we might see the react fly?

(sounds like my dream shoe)... The vaporfly felt too narrow in the arch when I first tried it, but the fly is awesome.
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Re: Where to get Vaporfly 4%? Wow is it hard to find. [dcohen24] [ In reply to ]
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I have no idea what phase of the release process they are in. The Fly came out June/July of last year, so I would guess that is the target.

The shoes really do feel different. The Fly fits me perfectly, while the vaporfly has to be cinched down. I don't know if i can go down half a size.
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Re: Where to get Vaporfly 4%? Wow is it hard to find. [chicanery] [ In reply to ]
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chicanery wrote:
I have no idea what phase of the release process they are in. The Fly came out June/July of last year, so I would guess that is the target.

The shoes really do feel different. The Fly fits me perfectly, while the vaporfly has to be cinched down. I don't know if i can go down half a size.

And just released...news of 50 pair of Nike VaporFly Flyknit Elite 3-D printed shoes. They will sell for about 500 Euro. They look pretty cool & the process was really cool how they did it. Same sole as the elite with upper is a non-water absorbing thermoplastic so if it rains your shoes won't get heavy. This a not a joke, it's real. No pink.
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Re: Where to get Vaporfly 4%? Wow is it hard to find. [colinlaughery] [ In reply to ]
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I will take running slower versus supporting Nike.
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Re: Where to get Vaporfly 4%? Wow is it hard to find. [Herbert] [ In reply to ]
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Are we talking Salazar stuff?

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Re: Where to get Vaporfly 4%? Wow is it hard to find. [colinlaughery] [ In reply to ]
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All of the Nike Oregon Project stuff
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Re: Where to get Vaporfly 4%? Wow is it hard to find. [Herbert] [ In reply to ]
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on an unrelated note, has anyone seen the new nike flyprint?

the top is made out of 3d technology

kipchoge should be wearing in london but they are very limited (only releasing in london for now)
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Re: Where to get Vaporfly 4%? Wow is it hard to find. [legitlegit] [ In reply to ]
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Yes. They had a display at work that people could handle.

It felt a lot like the flyknit had been woven with fishing line. A little stretchy in all directions. Certainly would not pick up and retain any water.

I haven't had elites in my hands, so I dont know what the upper is like...but I dont see this new upper making it out of the pro ranks.

I think the Zoom Fly upper is tge best that Nike makes right now, but I am partial to flywires.
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Re: Where to get Vaporfly 4%? Wow is it hard to find. [chicanery] [ In reply to ]
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Has anyone had good luck as far as wear and tear using these on the track instead of the roads?
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