Yep. Alex Rodriguez is on TV. Hell so is Ray Lewis and he killed a guy. The lifetime ban for Lance is ridiculous.

You can't go back and take away titles. They were won. What are you going to do, scrub over 50% of the TdF record book? Seriously, it was the times, no one has to like it, but the races were contested and there was a podium.

Because Lance and Landis were big meanies and liars only they have to be stripped? They don't dare touch the Euros.

When only one guy in our sport gets a lifetime ban, despite evidence of many others in our sport breaking the same rules, yes that's hypocritical.

Maybe it's best to just assume everyone dopes and let sleeping dogs lie.

It is silly. They never should have opened this Pandora's box. Look at a list of confirmed dopers among the top ten in Tours from about 1995-2010 and it's an absolute bloodbath. The "un-confirmed" dopers from that era were likely just never caught.

Of course, this goes back far, far further than that, back to the earliest amphetamines and strychnine days of pro racing.

Extending your point, what if the IOC went back and started reassessing Olympic results with East Germany, Flo Jo, China and the like? Hoo boy. Maybe it's best to just assume everyone dopes and let sleeping dogs lie.

That's definitely part of it as well. Crucify l'Americains while Italian and Spanish Directeurs Sportif laugh into their sleeves. You could argue that the "reasoned decision" forced the UCI's hand, but the fact that Lance was from Texas (and a complete asshole) didn't help matters.

Just merely pointing out that your sport doesn't hold itself to a higher standard than those other sports. And if you want me to tie it all together for you, Vande Velde is on TV too. ;)

no vitriol here - see my edit. just think if they're going to let everyone else off so easy, Lance is getting hosed.

You say this but it was an American hypocrite (Travis Tygard) who had this odd obsession with nailing Lance when he had worked hard to reduce bans for Gatlin etc. I doubt the Europeans minded him doing this but they didnt have any influence over what he did.

Pffft, there is a huge double standard in the treatment in doping in cycling. For example:

Bjarne Riis is still the official winner of the '96 Tour Not an American
Jan Ullrich is still the official winner of the '97 Tour Not an American
Marco Pantani is still the official winner of the '98 Tour Not an American
Erik Zabel still has all of his wins. Not an American
No one has said who actually "won" the Tours Lance "won"
Contador still has most of his results Not an American
Valverde was directly involved with Puerto and is the CURRENT WORLD CHAMPION Not an American
etc.

Going back a little further, no one seems to ever bring up that the great Merckx Not an American was popped not once but twice in the hardly-ever-tested, freewheeling 70s.
Hinault Not an American has a stack of skeletons twenty deep in his closet and he's up there every day on the podium.
Indurain Not an American is suspicious as hell (https://www.podiumcafe.com/...think-maybe-its-time) but no one has made any effort to even investigate him.
Most major teams are run by ex-dopers or people associated with ex dopers.
etc.

Lance American ? Stripped of (almost) all results. Landis American ? Stripped of all results. Say what you like about Lance, but he's right about this: it's a bunch of bullshit.

All of this is indefensible, corrupt and ridiculous. Vino racing Tri is just one more example.

Sure cycling holds itself to a higher standard than some other sports. Travis Tygart, like his methods or not, is a sincerely anti-doping crusader. He, at some point, made the decision that if he couldn't get Lance, arguably the highest-profile blatant dopers of those under the umbrella of USADA, that USADA might as well pack up and go home. So he spent a lot of resources and got him.

He offered Lance the same deal that Vande Velde got. Lance turned down that deal. That was his decision.

I simply dont understand, and have never understood the faux outrage about cycling...

I simply dont understand, and have never understood the faux outrage about cycling

I watched every lance tour and every tour since maybe 82-84 onwards

These guys - going back a century - have always been monsters fueled by more than just bread and water

Lance was an absolute bastard towards those that threatened him by all accounts but the sanctimonious actions of the UCI, commentators and others in eliminating him and then white washing the other results is just bullshit

I think I saw a star that there is a two decade run of tdf winners who at one time or another

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/...t_the_Tour_de_France

It is horseshit that Lance was singled out during that period

They just happened to be far more disciplined about it

Now, was have people pushing the boundaries to the same extent with with TUE's and jiffy bags and big lawyers

Remaining fit and healthy for the entire season in one of the most demanding sports on earth requires some flexibility on the moral compass and that does not seem to have changed much in the sky era

Lance is now allowed back in non cycling events, but his lifetime ban covers national/world championship events in any sport.