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Re: Official 13th Annual 2019/2020 Slowtwitch 100/100 Challenge Thread [Tom_hampton] [ In reply to ]
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Actually, I'm 51.

Get checked. If you haven't.

I was kind of hoping to fly off a cliff descending from Alpe d'Huez at 80 kph and die smashing my head into a ravine in a full on cyclist entry into heaven rather than die from a triple blockage in my lazyboy watching Tom Brady try to get to another superbowl !!!!
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Re: Official 13th Annual 2019/2020 Slowtwitch 100/100 Challenge Thread [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Well. Okay, its good to have a plan. However, on the off chance that doesn't work out.... Maybe a backup plan would be in order?

I may not agree with plan a. But, I certainly don't want to die in a Barco lounger watching Tom brady. Or live trough that!
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Re: Official 13th Annual 2019/2020 Slowtwitch 100/100 Challenge Thread [Tom_hampton] [ In reply to ]
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Well. Okay, its good to have a plan. However, on the off chance that doesn't work out.... Maybe a backup plan would be in order?

I may not agree with plan a. But, I certainly don't want to die in a Barco lounger watching Tom brady. Or live trough that!


How about I add Lance and Vino to Plan A. We do a 100/100 approved 30 min warmup run and then blast the climb up Alpe d'Huez together (I may need a solid e Bike for this) and Vino goes on a crazy attack on the descent. I chase Lance, and lose control and fly off the side of the mountain and go to heaven....Lance catches Vino on the descent and then they transition together and do a 30 min 100/100 run and beats Vino in the sprint finish to respect the guy who invented 100/100. Would that cover plan A???

Hey glad you are alive and recovering. Just did my best 12km hill run in 5 years. Last year this time I had not yet done my first continuous 30 min run outside. I just checked and I now have 75 runs and 600km total running !!!! Whatever happens now, I hit 75!!!!
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Re: Official 13th Annual 2019/2020 Slowtwitch 100/100 Challenge Thread [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Don't get me wrong. We all have our blaze of glory fantasy.

Congrats on your return to real running. I understand better than most the feeling of return to something you were certain you'd never do again. It's awesome.

Still... Go get checked!
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Re: Official 13th Annual 2019/2020 Slowtwitch 100/100 Challenge Thread [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Dev, we're at about exactly the same point in 100/100 except that you've run further than me and a bit faster. 4 days to make up. Will probably do it. No injuries.

Thought I'd report in on a new strategy. I've mentioned here (and been quoted by Dan) on how this year's challenge just hasn't been working for me. A few weeks ago, I ran a 9 mile trail race and my wife beat me by more than 8 minutes. Running has been slow, hard, unpleasant. This coming weekend, the 3rd in that series of trail races takes place (12.5 miles this time).

I started thinking back on previous 100/100 attempts, and realized that other than last year, when we were on the road looking for a place to live, I've done quite a lot of workouts on a treadmill due to nasty mid-Atlantic weather. Those treadmill workouts would normally see me try to ramp my pace up over 30+ minutes, typicallly hitting 6:15-6:45 min/mile by the end). This year has been nothing but outside running, which is nice, but has also cemented me into the "slow not-even-steady slog" mode of running (most runs at 9:00 min/mile or slower on trails or road).

So last week I started trying to do some workouts that dropped mileage and got me way up into whatever my current V02max level is. Mostly hard intervals, sprinting up 1/4 mile hills, a little bit of road speed work. Compared to "back in the day" these are still not fast - I remember doing 10x800 track workouts at 6:00 min/mile and finding that not too hard - but they are forcing me into a metabolic/cardiovascular/discomfort range I haven't been in for some time.

Just 4 or 5 days until we see if it makes any short-term difference. And just to be clear, there are still really bad days - I went out last night, and took 33 minutes to run 3 miles (on trails), feeling utterly dead the whole way. Today though was much better. So I'm trying to be hopeful.
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Re: Official 13th Annual 2019/2020 Slowtwitch 100/100 Challenge Thread [PaulDavis] [ In reply to ]
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Dev, we're at about exactly the same point in 100/100 except that you've run further than me and a bit faster. 4 days to make up. Will probably do it. No injuries.

Thought I'd report in on a new strategy. I've mentioned here (and been quoted by Dan) on how this year's challenge just hasn't been working for me. A few weeks ago, I ran a 9 mile trail race and my wife beat me by more than 8 minutes. Running has been slow, hard, unpleasant. This coming weekend, the 3rd in that series of trail races takes place (12.5 miles this time).

I started thinking back on previous 100/100 attempts, and realized that other than last year, when we were on the road looking for a place to live, I've done quite a lot of workouts on a treadmill due to nasty mid-Atlantic weather. Those treadmill workouts would normally see me try to ramp my pace up over 30+ minutes, typicallly hitting 6:15-6:45 min/mile by the end). This year has been nothing but outside running, which is nice, but has also cemented me into the "slow not-even-steady slog" mode of running (most runs at 9:00 min/mile or slower on trails or road).

So last week I started trying to do some workouts that dropped mileage and got me way up into whatever my current V02max level is. Mostly hard intervals, sprinting up 1/4 mile hills, a little bit of road speed work. Compared to "back in the day" these are still not fast - I remember doing 10x800 track workouts at 6:00 min/mile and finding that not too hard - but they are forcing me into a metabolic/cardiovascular/discomfort range I haven't been in for some time.

Just 4 or 5 days until we see if it makes any short-term difference. And just to be clear, there are still really bad days - I went out last night, and took 33 minutes to run 3 miles (on trails), feeling utterly dead the whole way. Today though was much better. So I'm trying to be hopeful.

I would think your treadmill speed will help. I have actually been doing some workout that are 50 seconds "on" 10 seconds rest (so my workout had to be 36 min total for 30 min of running) and my actual running pace can be substantially faster than continuous running as the 10 seconds gives me a chance to drop my heart rate. So my speed is coming up a bit now (although my Dubai 70.3 would suggest my run totally sucks....I ran 1:52....but I think my 2:18 ride was a bit hot on the overbiking side even for the fast Dubai course with cars driving in the lanes beside you and I paid on the run)

I just realized that my scheduled cortisone injection for my lumbar disc is two days from now (for some reason I thought it was in March). It was actually originally this time last year, but I rescheduled it three times to give my body more time to heal on its own (its now been 18 months since the last one). I am hoping that this one puts me over the hump and I get most of the force and coordination back in my left leg and the pains that I get from time to time in my lumbar area go away. Running has actully made things better and better (as had swimming for the 4 previous years). So hopefully this gets my left leg strength and coordination better and maybe I can start running faster. But I think I will be 7 days down on 100/100 after I resume (currently 4 days down). Not sure I will have enough days to things back to 100/100 pace. In any case my wattage on the bike and rowing machine or my ability in the water suggest I should run a lot faster and its not just age....so hopefully if the nerve impingement can be reduced with the cortisone shot and subsequent rehab, but run has some hope.
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Tonight was one of those weird nights on the treadmill, where I sucked at the first round of Jeopardy! but KILLED in Double Jeopardy AND got the Answer* in Final Jeopardy

Still hanging on to Medal Contention and somehow only 1 run behind @CalamityJane88

You doin' OK, Jane?



* Did anyone know Lebanon had a "space program" in the 60s and launched a "Cedar" series of rockets? The answer was in the clue

https://fikklefame.com/final-jeopardy-2-20-20/

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Re: Official 13th Annual 2019/2020 Slowtwitch 100/100 Challenge Thread [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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Still going well here. I had to skip one day in the last 3 weeks because I was sick. I did manage to squeeze out a 2k very slow slog for my run streak, but didn't want to push it. I did manage to run every morning during our ski trip, so I didn't lose any days there (which I did not expect). I started a little late and was hoping to do about 70 runs, but currently at 74 and one run behind a gold medal. Might have to do a double run next week!

As for random facts about space programs, Zambia use to have a space program in 1964! It didn't get very far though for some reasons.
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The letter quoted Nkoloso describing his somewhat unorthodox astronaut training methods, which included rolling the would-be spacefarers downhill in a 40-gallon oil drum to simulate the experience of spaceflight. He also had them swing on a rope, cutting it while the trainees were in midair to help them experience free fall.
More info here: https://www.space.com/...a-space-program.html
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Re: Official 13th Annual 2019/2020 Slowtwitch 100/100 Challenge Thread [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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RandMart wrote:
Tonight was one of those weird nights on the treadmill, where I sucked at the first round of Jeopardy! but KILLED in Double Jeopardy AND got the Answer* in Final Jeopardy

Still hanging on to Medal Contention and somehow only 1 run behind @CalamityJane88

You doin' OK, Jane?



* Did anyone know Lebanon had a "space program" in the 60s and launched a "Cedar" series of rockets? The answer was in the clue

https://fikklefame.com/final-jeopardy-2-20-20/

OMG, Randy, my running sucks. I keep doing these 10 day periods of just nothing. Everything I’m doing is counter to the soul and raison d’etre of this thing. The shame.

So, you’re about even with me? I can’t let you pass me. How many days left in this program?
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Re: Official 13th Annual 2019/2020 Slowtwitch 100/100 Challenge Thread [Calamityjane88] [ In reply to ]
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Um, yeah, sorry

The challenge 'runs' to March 9th



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Re: Official 13th Annual 2019/2020 Slowtwitch 100/100 Challenge Thread [Tom_hampton] [ In reply to ]
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Hi Tom,
Fascinating to read your story and crazy that you were so close to not being with us. We don't know each other apart from I've read a lot of your forum posts. So pleased this was picked up and you are pulling through. I've had a few surgeries and had a chest tube on a couple of occasions so I know exactly what that feels like. I had the misfortune of being conscious when having the drain inserted and that was the worst thing I've ever had done. The stronger and fitter you are, the stronger the intercostal muscles and the harder they have to push that damn tube into you. I was laughing when you described having the tube taken out. When you breath out and they pull that thing through you it's not nice at all! My son had to have brain surgery a few years ago when he was 11. He had to have a drain in his skull for a couple of days, and when they pulled that thing out I nearly passed out at the thought of what that must have felt like to him. Good thing he's tougher than me!

A friend of mine at work had a persistent cough for a few months and generally started to look quite thin and a bit grey. When you see someone everyday, these things tend to go unnoticed. He occasionally ran home from work and noticed a slight shortness of breath. He had been to his doctor twice, the first time they gave him antibiotics for a chest infection, and the second time gave him an inhaler thinking it was asthma. On the third occasion they sent him to the hospital as a precaution to get a heart scan. When they scanned his heart, it was enlarged to twice the size it should be and one of the valves was a thread away from being non-existent. His Aorta was also enlarged to twice it's diameter near the heart. He was told his heart was operating at less than 30% and was rushed by ambulance to the regional hospital where he underwent open surgery to repair the valve. The weird thing is, up until his scan, I had been cycling commuting to work with him both of us completely oblivious to his heart being a beat any from a catastrophic failure. The doctors told him he could have dropped at any moment and would not have survived longer than 3 months if he hadn't had that scan.

Keep posting updates and I'll be following with interest. One thing I always remember from my recoveries is the timetable of all sorts of different meds. Some for pain, some to stop constipation from the pain meds, some to stop drowsiness from the consipation meds that result from the pain meds! Everything just ends up stinking of medication. You can smell it on your skin, your shit stinks of meds, you feel like a chemical lab. Stay strong, stay in the fight and keep us updated if you can. Following top athletes is one thing, but NOTHING compares to a survival story and comeback.

Will
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Re: Official 13th Annual 2019/2020 Slowtwitch 100/100 Challenge Thread [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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RandMart wrote:
Um, yeah, sorry

The challenge 'runs' to March 9th


Oh darn, I need 20 runs in 16 days to hit 100. Its doable, but that's a double every 5 days and no days off. Or I can take several days off and just get up on March 9th and 90 runs, run 30 min to the donut shop with my laptop, sit down for 60 minutes and work and eat donuts, and every 60 minutes go out for a run and come back and keep eating. Maybe I need to ask Bluestack what strategy to employ but 100 "seems" to be in reach if just clamp down for the next 16 days.
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Re: Official 13th Annual 2019/2020 Slowtwitch 100/100 Challenge Thread [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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How about 1 every day, and then 5 on March 9. 5 in a day must be do-able, that's 2,5 hours of running, you must have done that before.
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Re: Official 13th Annual 2019/2020 Slowtwitch 100/100 Challenge Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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Week 11: 37 runs | 112.1 mi | 16.3 hours

Headaches, severe

Day 71: 7 runs | 21.2 mi
Day 72: 9 runs | 27.4 mi
Day 73: 4 runs | 12.1 mi
Day 74: 3 runs | 9.1 mi
Day 75: 3 runs | 9.1 mi
Day 76: 4 runs | 12.1 mi
Day 77: 7 runs | 21.2 mi

I stopped drinking coffee cold turkey last week. I never cared for black coffee and always loaded up on cream and sugar. Now that I decided to intermittent fast to lose weight, my coffees had to go. Caffeine withdrawal hit me hard this week and I had severe headaches. By the end of the week the headaches stopped. After two weeks intermittent fasting, I am down 4 lbs. A lot of it came off the first week and was simply water weight from the huge carbohydrate swing. I must plan the fasts around my runs. I have been skipping all my AM runs before work. Skipping the AM runs has allowed me to fast 16-20 hours on weekdays and still log 3 to 4 runs.

My body felt strong all week. With all my previous injuries behind me I have been feeling pretty good physically. After running almost 22 hours in week 8, These 15 to 16-hour weeks are very tolerable. Mentally I am counting down the days and can't wait for the challenge to end. I would say that it is not fun anymore. I think it stopped being fun sometime around week 7. I am locked into the mental training aspect of it and determined to not let up.



Week 12: 34 runs | 102.9 mi | 14.8 hours

Fatigue, moderate to severe
Blood clot (right leg)

Day 78: 5 runs | 15.1 mi
Day 79: 8 runs | 24.1 mi
Day 80: 5 runs | 15.2 mi
Day 81: 4 runs | 12.1 mi
Day 82: 3 runs | 9.1 mi
Day 83: 3 runs | 9.2 mi
Day 84: 6 runs | 18.1 mi

I started the week with extreme, unexplained fatigue. While sitting at work I was extremely tired even though I was getting good amounts of sleep. I notice a weird sensation in my right leg a few times throughout each day. It felt like my leg was pipe and warm water was slowly flowed through it. It would only last three to five seconds and only occurred a few times each day. I eventually googled the symptoms and determined it was most likely a blood clot. I started walking more throughout the day at work, used compression on my leg, and took blood thinners once a day. By the end of the week the symptoms seemed to be gone. If it lasted a couple more days, I was ready to go to the doctor. I am pretty sure I treated it just fine.

Fasting is getting easier and I am continuing to skip the AM runs before work. My wife and kids had a mild cold this week and I didn't even catch it. That never happens. I am probably healthier than ever now that I am not pumping sugar through my body all day.

I am going to attempt 17 runs on Sunday, March 8th (day 99). My goal is to start at 12:00 AM Sunday and hold a 9-minute pace or less with exactly 1 hour 1 minute between each run. 17 runs will have me finish at 11:55 PM with just over 50 miles. Hopefully I can pull it off and still squeeze in a run on day 100. Last year there were 29 days where I didn't log a single run. One of my mini goals this year was to make sure I ran at least once every day. Two weeks to go!

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Re: Official 13th Annual 2019/2020 Slowtwitch 100/100 Challenge Thread [bluestacks867] [ In reply to ]
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I eventually googled the symptoms and determined it was most likely a blood clot. I started walking more throughout the day at work, used compression on my leg, and took blood thinners once a day. By the end of the week the symptoms seemed to be gone. If it lasted a couple more days, I was ready to go to the doctor. I am pretty sure I treated it just fine.

Is it a good idea to self diagnose and self medicate a potential blood clot? How did you obtain and determine dosage of a blood thinner? For most people, I would think it’s a tremendously bad idea. Did you have help?
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Re: Official 13th Annual 2019/2020 Slowtwitch 100/100 Challenge Thread [Calamityjane88] [ In reply to ]
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Calamityjane88 wrote:
bluestacks867 wrote:
I eventually googled the symptoms and determined it was most likely a blood clot. I started walking more throughout the day at work, used compression on my leg, and took blood thinners once a day. By the end of the week the symptoms seemed to be gone. If it lasted a couple more days, I was ready to go to the doctor. I am pretty sure I treated it just fine.


Is it a good idea to self diagnose and self medicate a potential blood clot? How did you obtain and determine dosage of a blood thinner? For most people, I would think it’s a tremendously bad idea. Did you have help?

I'm with you on this one Jane...but I'm biting my tongue here...
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Re: Official 13th Annual 2019/2020 Slowtwitch 100/100 Challenge Thread [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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Calamityjane88 wrote:
OMG, Randy, my running sucks. I keep doing these 10 day periods of just nothing. Everything I’m doing is counter to the soul and raison d’etre of this thing. The shame.

So, you’re about even with me? I can’t let you pass me. How many days left in this program?

Um, yeah, sorry

Glad to see you got back around me, Jane!!!

The "race" for the Lanterne Rouge [of Medal Contenders, that is] ain't over yet

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Re: Official 13th Annual 2019/2020 Slowtwitch 100/100 Challenge Thread [bluestacks867] [ In reply to ]
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It felt like my leg was pipe and warm water was slowly flowed through it. It would only last three to five seconds and only occurred a few times each day. I eventually googled the symptoms and determined it was most likely a blood clot. I started walking more throughout the day at work, used compression on my leg, and took blood thinners once a day.


Sorry bluestack. That was incredibly stupid.

Clots can be life threatening or life altering. Loss of life, loss of brain function, loss of limb.

After my entire thread on the early detection of my cardiac event, I'm just shocked that you would play so fast and loose with something that can equally deadly. Shit...stupid, stupid, stupid.

You went and took a blood thinner without the advice of a physician. Seriously dude. That is just bad thinking.

Eta: man that pisses me off.
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Re: Official 13th Annual 2019/2020 Slowtwitch 100/100 Challenge Thread [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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RandMart wrote:
RandMart wrote:
Calamityjane88 wrote:
OMG, Randy, my running sucks. I keep doing these 10 day periods of just nothing. Everything I’m doing is counter to the soul and raison d’etre of this thing. The shame.

So, you’re about even with me? I can’t let you pass me. How many days left in this program?

Um, yeah, sorry

Glad to see you got back around me, Jane!!!

The "race" for the Lanterne Rouge [of Medal Contenders, that is] ain't over yet

Keep talking, Randy. You totally psyched me up! 🤗
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Re: Official 13th Annual 2019/2020 Slowtwitch 100/100 Challenge Thread [Calamityjane88] [ In reply to ]
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Glad to help, Jane!!!

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Re: Official 13th Annual 2019/2020 Slowtwitch 100/100 Challenge Thread [dtoce] [ In reply to ]
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I'm crossing my fingers that blood thinners = Aspirin.

Glad you're safe, but probably worth checking out asap.
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I'm crossing my fingers that blood thinners = Aspirin.

Glad you're safe, but probably worth checking out asap.

Noting that our superstar has continued to log runs and just in case anyone gets any smart ideas, I give you this song (currently popular with middle schoolers):


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I've got your Discliamer, right here, Jane

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A quick scan reveals we’re missing the “this is not legal advice” and disclosure language for the FCC’s requirement that social media influencers divulge that they are compensated. Also, ”Unix is a registered trademark of AT&T” is in there 2 times. I haven’t had the time or interest to read it carefully, so please take this with a grain of salt. Also need to include standard “grain of salt” disclosure.

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