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New Canyon on their website
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Available to order in december:
https://www.canyon.com/...als/speedmax-cf-slx/
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Re: New Canyon on their website [pad] [ In reply to ]
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I think I need a cold shower after looking at that :)

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Re: New Canyon on their website [pad] [ In reply to ]
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Interesting it says it's optimized for averaging around 50kph / 30mph since only a small fraction of actual consumers will come close to that.

Seems like they are insinuating they could have made a faster bike for slower people.
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Re: New Canyon on their website [Liaman] [ In reply to ]
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I am officially pissed off I bought my speedmax last year. This is the first time I have expressed nothing but love for it, but the new one looks to have so much more.

It must be like finding out the girl you married a couple of years ago has a sister who's a unicorn (hot, fun, smart and not mad) and has always been secretly been keen on you.

You're still happy with your choice, but if you had your time over...

Swim. Overbike. Walk.
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Re: New Canyon on their website [GrimOopNorth] [ In reply to ]
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Will guys in the U.S. find out that the love of their life is unobtainable because
she's afraid of traveling across the pond?

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do that thing.
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Re: New Canyon on their website [pad] [ In reply to ]
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Love it!
Two questions:
(1) How's it compare aerodynamically to Cervelo P5 and others?
(2) How much? (a lot I'm sure!)
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Re: New Canyon on their website [GrimOopNorth] [ In reply to ]
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GrimOopNorth wrote:
I am officially pissed off I bought my speedmax last year. This is the first time I have expressed nothing but love for it, but the new one looks to have so much more.

It must be like finding out the girl you married a couple of years ago has a sister who's a unicorn (hot, fun, smart and not mad) and has always been secretly been keen on you.

You're still happy with your choice, but if you had your time over...

Do tri forum folks get this reference or does it belong in the Lavender room? Better post your Gartner magic quadrant on this.
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Re: New Canyon on their website [pad] [ In reply to ]
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I love it!! It just makes sense to have everything you need integrated into the bike. I dont want to even hear the price as Canyon is usually very proud of their products? and what is really THAT different than the new Plasma? They look very similar.

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Re: New Canyon on their website [Liaman] [ In reply to ]
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Liaman wrote:
I think I need a cold shower after looking at that :)

heart rate is rising..

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Re: New Canyon on their website [Mac] [ In reply to ]
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The guys at the Kona Expo said the top of the line all tweaked out option would be around 7K. I asked him two more times to make sure I heard him right. He said by going direct they can get really competitive with their pricing and said they will be in the U.S very soon but couldn't give me a firm timetable. The bike looks awesome in person even more so than how it looks on their website.
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Re: New Canyon on their website [mdgreene] [ In reply to ]
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Here is a link to the Tech Paper https://www.canyon.com/...eedmax_CF_SLX_en.pdf The tech paper has no aero data in it

The integration they have designed is really well thought out. It's a beautiful bike

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Re: New Canyon on their website [mdgreene] [ In reply to ]
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If that price is true, and if they start selling it in the USA... I am buying one.

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Re: New Canyon on their website [fishgo] [ In reply to ]
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fishgo wrote:
GrimOopNorth wrote:
I am officially pissed off I bought my speedmax last year. This is the first time I have expressed nothing but love for it, but the new one looks to have so much more.

It must be like finding out the girl you married a couple of years ago has a sister who's a unicorn (hot, fun, smart and not mad) and has always been secretly been keen on you.

You're still happy with your choice, but if you had your time over...

Do tri forum folks get this reference or does it belong in the Lavender room? Better post your Gartner magic quadrant on this.
Unfortunately my bike is more like the red headed stripper named Tiffany...
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Re: New Canyon on their website [pad] [ In reply to ]
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That really looks awesome. The integrated storage for pretty much everything (hydration, nutrition, and spares) appears well thought out. Me likey.

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Re: New Canyon on their website [GrimOopNorth] [ In reply to ]
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GrimOopNorth wrote:
I am officially pissed off I bought my speedmax last year. This is the first time I have expressed nothing but love for it, but the new one looks to have so much more.

It must be like finding out the girl you married a couple of years ago has a sister who's a unicorn (hot, fun, smart and not mad) and has always been secretly been keen on you.

You're still happy with your choice, but if you had your time over...

Hey you still have a great bike and to me the "old" Speedmax CF looks like a more pure TT racer whereas this looks like it has two lunchboxes strapped on. They call it integrated, I call it drag and drop. No real mention of whether the lunchboxes can be removed and how it looks then.
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Re: New Canyon on their website [COJO] [ In reply to ]
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COJO wrote:
I love it!! It just makes sense to have everything you need integrated into the bike. I dont want to even hear the price as Canyon is usually very proud of their products? and what is really THAT different than the new Plasma? They look very similar.

Is this a real post? Canyon is by far one of the most reasonably priced companies when it comes to their bikes and offerings.
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Re: New Canyon on their website [snaaijert] [ In reply to ]
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Oh, I know. I love my speedmax to bits, and am currently reaffirming my love now it's coming out of it's winter hibernation.

But the cyclist in me whispers new bike.

Swim. Overbike. Walk.
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Re: New Canyon on their website [pad] [ In reply to ]
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Anybody have a size/geometry chart or link?
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Re: New Canyon on their website [GMAN19030] [ In reply to ]
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my love has switched from a diamond to a canyon! Anyone want to buy a neon yellow SC?

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Re: New Canyon on their website [kyle h] [ In reply to ]
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kyle h wrote:
COJO wrote:
I love it!! It just makes sense to have everything you need integrated into the bike. I dont want to even hear the price as Canyon is usually very proud of their products? and what is really THAT different than the new Plasma? They look very similar.


Is this a real post? Canyon is by far one of the most reasonably priced companies when it comes to their bikes and offerings.

Perhaps youre right? Maybe I am combining availability in the U.S. and rarity in the U.S. and assuming an exotic price tag. I love the bike so.....I hope youre right.

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Re: New Canyon on their website [Liaman] [ In reply to ]
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Liaman wrote:
I think I need a cold shower after looking at that :)



Too late.


Last edited by: trail: Oct 8, 15 19:48
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Re: New Canyon on their website [GrimOopNorth] [ In reply to ]
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Surely several months of Frodo prancing around Europe on this machine should have prepared you?

I am trying to save for a house and this machine is very tempting.

'It never gets easier, you just get crazier.'
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Re: New Canyon on their website [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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It's a very pretty "technical paper". But no aero data suggests... something. They even show wind tunnel tests in the document, so their absence is surprising.

'It never gets easier, you just get crazier.'
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Re: New Canyon on their website [spot] [ In reply to ]
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Hold on,

You were saying that you thought that these integrated front ends were "fugly" just a few days ago on the Giant Trinity thread:

spot wrote:
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A lot of people find them ugly though.


Absolutely ugly!


Agreed, fugly.

Spot

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Re: New Canyon on their website [georged] [ In reply to ]
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georged wrote:
It's a very pretty "technical paper". But no aero data suggests... something. They even show wind tunnel tests in the document, so their absence is surprising.

I wondered about this too.

Looking at the document as a whole, I think that they made a mistake naming it a "technical paper" since there was little in it that was technical - it was more a brochure of sorts. Perhaps something was lost in translation from the original German.
When you consider that there is no empirical information of any sort (geometry, weight, etc.) then the absence of drag data seems less strange.

FWIW, I trust that the new Speedmax will be right up there.
The previous Speedmax has been shown to be up there with a P5 (Tour Magazine), and I would be surprised if this one wasn't faster to some degree.
I'm hesitant to point to the pro splits that have been laid down on it as evidence of its speed and not Frodo/Frommold's form, but they have been some really quick times!

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