I believe that the Specialized patent is only in the US, but that's all they had to do to make somebody else producing one very cost prohibitive.

If I had a Felt, I would definitely "enable" the downtube hydration option. I'm surprised hardly anybody does.

I heard the same.. local shop already ordered one up and you could walk in and order one if you wanted (with no details except color options and price.) There is an Expert version as well (but even the Expert is wickedly expensive.) So just a few more days and we should know more when the full launch happens.

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I saw Tim Don out in boulder the other day and the shiv looked pretty standard but with a speed box like trek's speed concept

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Interesting. Did it still have the big downtube and straw?

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Everything looked exactly the same, except the speed box. I didn't take the time to fully analyze as him and his training partner sped by me pretty quickly. The only thing that stuck out was the speed box and it might have integrated safety lights in the speedbox if my memory serves me correctly.

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New Shiv WILL be announced at Kona....

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Maybe it won’t be ready til after the first pre season orders. Ben Hoffman IS riding it currently in Tucson.

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All those clocks on the wall and all have different time.


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Once, I was fast. But I got over it.

I have one on order :)

There was a recent podcast (Mile High Endurance) where he mentions seeing the bike and commenting on the fact that Tim Don will be on it in Kona.

I also have seen the 2019 dealer catalogue that has all the details but no photos.

Cervelos website refers to “rim brake P3s” when describing the models. Obviously a disc version coming....

Anyone heard about Trek updating the speed concept soon? The website only shows one ultegra model for 2019, curious if they have a disc model in the pipeline.

Did you go with the black/holographic (guessing the same as the new avengers) or take a risk in whatever the ‘sunset’ color is?

I ordered the S-Works in the satin carbon/gloss holographic foil.

Talbot has a gallery of Daniela with a beautiful new custom painted Felt IA - I know we've seen the bike but giving Talbot some love!

talbotcox.com/kona for the galleries.

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Well you didn't see the real thing If "pretty standard" is the descriptor

How are there not spy shots at this point? Obviously it's out there!!!!!!!!!!!!

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DFRU - Detta Family Racing Unit...the kids like it and we all get out and after it...gotta keep the fam involved!

I guess I should have paid more attention

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I hope not because everything else in this thread puts me to sleep.

I may have seen the real one... and it was ugly.

Yes there is a new Shiv, see it at Kona today with Sarah True on board
Very strange Bike !

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Bladders.

The most important thing to my point of view is the drinking system.

How to clean the bladders. Can you take them out, can you put them in the dishwasher. Are there throw away bladders which you just use one time?and such kind of questions.
I personally do not even use a bottle twice without cleaning even if I had plain water in it.

If there are no answers to these questions, can you purchase a frame/bike without drinking system and what are the possibilities to mount bottle holders.

Comfort
Also important. My present P5 is e.g. A LOT more comfortable than my old speedmax (the white model of 7 years ago).

Aerodynamics is probably irrelevant for the choice because there will be no substantive differences. Groupsets: you will probably be able to have any. And also the brake question is not so inportant, it will be disk.

Well, there's the base-level Ultegra which is quite a best-seller around where I live (I'd guess nearly half the new bikes around are SCs, local fitter says a majority of his tri clients are SC) but there's Project One if you want to customise. Apparently nothing in the pipeline, no design yet fast enough to justify an update. They tried to work IsoSpeed into it but the forward weighting of the saddle in a tri position made it less relevant.

Too bad, I imagine a hydration system integrated into the current stem/bar would be quite popular.

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If you take a look at Ryf's bike, it appear that in addition to disc brakes the IAX has gained tilt adjustment on the base bar.