I don't get it... whatever happened to:

“It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.”?

yes....he is butthurt about name calling AND having progress impeded. I get the impeding progress part....and don't condone that behavior or messing with an athlete trying to perform....but the name calling (which he specifically calls out) shouldn't have been part of his complaint as he does the same thing. It's ironic, that is my point.

yes....he is butthurt about name calling AND having progress impeded. I get the impeding progress part....and don't condone that behavior or messing with an athlete trying to perform....but the name calling (which he specifically calls out) shouldn't have been part of his complaint as he does the same thing. It's ironic, that is my point.

Probably too much sun, booze and/or uppers.

There were some ugly characters out there on the Queen K yesterday. Visible even during coverage.

Vehicular assault is not trivial.

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I am not the first and won't be the last to tell a sponsor that their athlete doesn't represent their product well, and I won't be buying anything else from them if they continue to support them. A sponsored professional athlete puts themselves out there as a public figure and needs to act like a professional.



But shouldn't the Company itself be able to decide who to sponsor or not?

I'm just not sure why you feel it's your job.

I'm not a professional. But you can sure bet when I am doing a pitch at work I put everything into it. Especially if it's the biggest one of the year.

I'm not expecting Callum to win. He can even finish last of the pros. But so far behind, it s a joke he is racing pro.

I think Luke McKenzie was on the cusp of times for respectable pros. And he came 28th I think. 40 minutes behind? Guessing.

..But f--king A, there is an absolutely astounding amount of negativity and asshole behavior floating around here and other threads. What the hell is wrong with people?

While the rest of the thread might be entertaining to read and bring in page views, it's ultimately what drives people away from ST forums from an actual posting standpoint.

Sure, there's plenty of useful tidbits on ST and I skim the forums daily, but I rarely post anymore for exactly this reason. It's just not worth it most of the time. The level of general hate/assholes/etc here just seems to climb by the month.

I get that the general concept is to let things take care of itself, but at some point it doesn't become any better than a bad Reddit thread. Hell, at least with Reddit a post/comment can get downvoted to oblivion, effectively making it disappear for most.

The man who said that would have stopped running, get the Sutto guy off his bike, hip-throw him on the ground and proceed to choke him out.
I'm not joking.

The man who said that would have stopped running, get the Sutto guy off his bike, hip-throw him on the ground and proceed to choke him out.
I'm not joking.

This guy Cameron who coaches a few pros including one is doing really well in the race. Randomly stops to abuse and assault the last pro?

Sounds very thin and with no witness at all?

They have had some disagreements in the past. No doubt he gives it to him, given the form of the cupcake look at me crew and their behaviour sounds like a squaring of the ledger and a bit of creativity with the story.

Yes, that's something that Reddit at least did well; the downvote button.

I mean, look at what happened with Talbot. Dude was giving us great content and still got shitted on my some of the assholes in ST, this included a dude saying that videos weren't free because he spent 10 minutes of his time watching them.

Please stay away from youth athletes.

The Talbot thread was slightly different. He got some feedback that was negative but mostly was articulated properly. People can have opinions it’s just how they’re conveyed. The keyboard warriors on here have been getting worse though and I don’t blame brands and pros from shying away.

I mean, look at what happened with Talbot. Dude was giving us great content and still got shitted on my some of the assholes in ST, this included a dude saying that videos weren't free because he spent 10 minutes of his time watching them.

The Talbot thread was slightly different. He got some feedback that was negative but mostly was articulated properly. People can have opinions it’s just how they’re conveyed. The keyboard warriors on here have been getting worse though and I don’t blame brands and pros from shying away.

With Talbot though he made a previous thread asking for feedback-he even publicly posted his phone number asking for feedback. And then when he got feedback got upset. He needs to realise all feedback won’t ever be good-you could paint the perfect picture and yet thousands of people will still think it’s a POS.

He needs some maturity to read he feedback when requested and take it or leave it.

If you go back and read the thread, Talbot got upset after CU427 started complaining about the videos not being free because he had to spend time watching them, and nothing in this world is free, including his time.

The only other time was when people asked him about using a different genre of music, and Talbot declined to change, as that was his preference. And he didn't seem that upset about it.