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Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview**
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I had a chance to sit down with Javi before Ironman Cairns. Whats your thoughts on how he will go? He said his longest ride was 200k and longest run was 34k.

He also said "I am here to race"


How do you think the race will pan out?



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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [talbotcox] [ In reply to ]
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So it's his first Ironman, he should have no time goals and ride a road bike.

---According to a lot of past posts here :)
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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [talbotcox] [ In reply to ]
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Love that his longest run was only 21 miles. No need to do more than that as the risk is just too high.

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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [talbotcox] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks for posting. Nice video and always seems like a super nice guy. He doesn't really have a weakness, so it gives him the opportunity to play it pretty safe which is what I think will happen. He will exit with the lead group out of the swim, sit on with the lead pack on the bike, sit on the shoulder of the lead runner/s and then see if he can push the last 10km for the win. For me the danger would be if he misses a break on the bike or something goes wrong with his nutrition. Are Wurf and Amberger racing Cairns? That could create an interesting challenge for Gomez if those two form a break way on the bike, but I still think Gomez will run them down.

I hear A.Brownlee is injured again? If so, that really does not look good for his long term prospects in the sport.
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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [Tubs] [ In reply to ]
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Tubs wrote:
Thanks for posting. Nice video and always seems like a super nice guy. He doesn't really have a weakness, so it gives him the opportunity to play it pretty safe which is what I think will happen. He will exit with the lead group out of the swim, sit on with the lead pack on the bike, sit on the shoulder of the lead runner/s and then see if he can push the last 10km for the win. For me the danger would be if he misses a break on the bike or something goes wrong with his nutrition. Are Wurf and Amberger racing Cairns? That could create an interesting challenge for Gomez if those two form a break way on the bike, but I still think Gomez will run them down.

I hear A.Brownlee is injured again? If so, that really does not look good for his long term prospects in the sport.

Josh is in Switzerland doing a 70.3. No clue if Wurf is going to be there.

I also heard that Ali is injured, they mentioned it on the Triathlon Live TV broadcast for the mixed relays.
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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [TulkasTri] [ In reply to ]
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i saw wurf post a 5 hour ride in spain today soooo I guess he is out.
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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [Tubs] [ In reply to ]
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Long term prospects... I would say winning back to back olympic gold medals is pretty good.



Tubs wrote:
Thanks for posting. Nice video and always seems like a super nice guy. He doesn't really have a weakness, so it gives him the opportunity to play it pretty safe which is what I think will happen. He will exit with the lead group out of the swim, sit on with the lead pack on the bike, sit on the shoulder of the lead runner/s and then see if he can push the last 10km for the win. For me the danger would be if he misses a break on the bike or something goes wrong with his nutrition. Are Wurf and Amberger racing Cairns? That could create an interesting challenge for Gomez if those two form a break way on the bike, but I still think Gomez will run them down.

I hear A.Brownlee is injured again? If so, that really does not look good for his long term prospects in the sport.

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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [Brandes] [ In reply to ]
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I meant long term prospects going forward. Not taking anything away from his achievements to date. Albeit even they came in the midst of injury plagued years.
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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [Tubs] [ In reply to ]
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I think the problem will be Bozzone and Currie.
Both appear stronger bikers and proven IM Mara's in the mid 2:40's.

Stacked field though so should play to Gomez advantage.

Agreed if off bike with leaders then expected win. But I reckon he'll be a few mins down from the Uber bikers.

Hoping Terrenzo can continue his form as he's on fire with no weakness.

Reckon Gomez runs 2:45 for 2nd.
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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [talbotcox] [ In reply to ]
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1) Bozzone
2) Currie
3) Gomez

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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [Brandes] [ In reply to ]
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How about long course prospects;)

Simply a beast and hopefully can translate and stay healthy to longer racing as he has started to shift his goals.

Brandes wrote:
Long term prospects... I would say winning back to back olympic gold medals is pretty good.



Tubs wrote:
Thanks for posting. Nice video and always seems like a super nice guy. He doesn't really have a weakness, so it gives him the opportunity to play it pretty safe which is what I think will happen. He will exit with the lead group out of the swim, sit on with the lead pack on the bike, sit on the shoulder of the lead runner/s and then see if he can push the last 10km for the win. For me the danger would be if he misses a break on the bike or something goes wrong with his nutrition. Are Wurf and Amberger racing Cairns? That could create an interesting challenge for Gomez if those two form a break way on the bike, but I still think Gomez will run them down.

I hear A.Brownlee is injured again? If so, that really does not look good for his long term prospects in the sport.
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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [talbotcox] [ In reply to ]
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Excellent video.

I hope he only runs what he needs to run to win.

I don’t want him to burn too many matches and underperform at Kona

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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [PJC] [ In reply to ]
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I think he'll come 2nd to Terenzo. Terenzo is biking very well at the moment. 11 mins quicker than the next pro at Busselton 70.3 5 weeks ago. Rode a 1.58 in brutal conditions.
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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [zedzded] [ In reply to ]
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It's interesting watching Terenzo this year. If Kona is his number one goal this year, his race schedule seems at odds with doing well in October. He already got himself in great shape for IMNZ and held his fantastic form for a couple of 70.3'. So if he plans on bringing his A game to IM Cairns and pushing himself deep against a stacked field, is he really going to be able to get in great shape a 3rd time for Kona? In Macca's book he talks about Terenzo being an incredible talent but held back at times by overtraining. Could his race schedule be stopping him from having a great race in kona? Can any athlete be in great shape in March , June and then again in October? Compare it to Gomez, who has been very quiet on the racing, will prob use Cairns just as race experience when not in top shape, and then move on towards Kona to be at his best.

It would be great to see Terenzo at his best in kona, as I genuinely think he could win it.
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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [talbotcox] [ In reply to ]
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In other news, the womens race could be quite interesting too. Two super fish well up the road making everyone else chase all day.
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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [cyclenutnz] [ In reply to ]
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Managed to catch up with the man before the race!


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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [zedzded] [ In reply to ]
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Nice!!! You just need Bozzone and you have a picture of the men's podium. ;-)
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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [stevej] [ In reply to ]
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Only ???? What would you expect it to be??
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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [cyclenutnz] [ In reply to ]
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cyclenutnz wrote:
In other news, the womens race could be quite interesting too. Two super fish well up the road making everyone else chase all day.

The former drug cheat will come second

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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [stevej] [ In reply to ]
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Yep, same thought. Am stoked to see him enter the long course world.



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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [talbotcox] [ In reply to ]
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Only if he needs to.
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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [zedzded] [ In reply to ]
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Just watching the video again, Gomez talks about doing Cairns to get used to Kona conditions.

In 2015 I raced IM Frankfurt with the temperature about 38C (100F) and I was glad just to survive. Before the start I was very close to a DNS as I have never done any training in temperatures anywhere near that high, so I was genuinely concerned it might be dangerous. In the end I just rolled around the bike and then did a jog/walked survival from aid station to aid station. I could not believe that Frodeno broke the course record that day going 7:49. The temperatures didn't seem to have any effect on him whatsoever. How the hell could he run a 2:50 in those temperatures. I am told that it's pretty much that hot or hotter in Kona EVERY year. At least for Kona they know what's coming and can do some heat prep, but those temps for Frankfurt are not the norm, so I can't imagine he did a lot of heat prep for it. But it wasn't just Frodeno, 6 guys went under 8:10 and Ryf broke the women's record. Meanwhile in the AG ranks, the race had a DNF rate of over 35% and a massive effect on the average finish time.

You get the occasional PRO athlete that doesn't go well in the heat, but it seems very rare. In the picture with Zedzded, Gomez doesn't even look like he has much of a tan from training in hot weather.

So what makes the PRO's so good at racing in the heat?
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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [Tubs] [ In reply to ]
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Specific heat training protocols that most others do not do + many many years experience racing and training [in the heat], that most AGers do not have.

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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [DFW_Tri] [ In reply to ]
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DFW_Tri wrote:
Only ???? What would you expect it to be??

I expect it to be just that.

There are too many people who insist on running 24-28 miles in their IM prep.

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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [stevej] [ In reply to ]
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Pros??
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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [Fazz] [ In reply to ]
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Spot on. Gomez's biggest decision will be if he follows Bozzone/Mckenzie/Currie when they push it on the bike. Bozzone is in the shape of his life so he might even get a gap on Mckenzie/Currie. No doubt will be a fascinating race.

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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [Tubs] [ In reply to ]
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Great post Tubs. Fully agree, Bozzone has an absolutely legitimate shot at winning Kona. Recently listened a great podcast (Oxygen Addict) with his Coach Dan Plews and he said that Terrenzo's performance this year in New Zealand was one of the best in IM in the last 10 years. An amazing talent, met him once in Dubai, really cool down to earth chap.
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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [PJC] [ In reply to ]
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PJC wrote:
The former drug cheat will come second

No debate about first?
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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [cyclenutnz] [ In reply to ]
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Which drug cheat?
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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [Tubs] [ In reply to ]
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Tubs wrote:
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So what makes the PRO's so good at racing in the heat?

Genetics must be a big factor.

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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [Tubs] [ In reply to ]
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Tubs wrote:
It's interesting watching Terenzo this year. If Kona is his number one goal this year, his race schedule seems at odds with doing well in October. He already got himself in great shape for IMNZ and held his fantastic form for a couple of 70.3'. So if he plans on bringing his A game to IM Cairns and pushing himself deep against a stacked field, is he really going to be able to get in great shape a 3rd time for Kona? In Macca's book he talks about Terenzo being an incredible talent but held back at times by overtraining. Could his race schedule be stopping him from having a great race in kona? Can any athlete be in great shape in March , June and then again in October? Compare it to Gomez, who has been very quiet on the racing, will prob use Cairns just as race experience when not in top shape, and then move on towards Kona to be at his best.

It would be great to see Terenzo at his best in kona, as I genuinely think he could win it.

I don't think it is possible to be in a A+ shape all year. I hope there is a lot of down time from both training and racing before Kona for Terrenzo
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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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no update from JG for the past 30min or so. Hopefully just a tech issue...
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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [Francois] [ In reply to ]
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and yes...was just tech. 1.29 off the lead off the bike. They're going to have to run scared.
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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [Francois] [ In reply to ]
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No sign of Gomez, O’Donnell, Buckingham or Currie in last 30 minutes! Did the dog that was reported by Tim Reed take them all out? Crazy
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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [IntenseOne] [ In reply to ]
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By tracker has Gomez in 3rd 19s down at 10k mark. Now just a matter of when he'll pass and how big of a victory he'll take.

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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [B_Doughtie] [ In reply to ]
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10.3km according to IM tracker atleast- 37:04

3:36 km/ pace.....2:32 marathon predicted pace (not saying he is, just giving out what the 10km splits out too).

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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [B_Doughtie] [ In reply to ]
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Running side by side at 14km mark and now together at 16.2km mark.

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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [Francois] [ In reply to ]
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I am sure Gomez will focus on the win and not the time.
Now he can try to stay with the leader and just wait it all out.

But as we all now. The ITU guys just suck ;-)
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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [Halvard] [ In reply to ]
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Currie "drops" Gomez at 22km taking a 2s lead.

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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [B_Doughtie] [ In reply to ]
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Great battle for 3rd between O’Donnell and Bozzone
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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [B_Doughtie] [ In reply to ]
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half of ~1:16:10 based on the IM tracker splits (take that for what it's worth).

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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [B_Doughtie] [ In reply to ]
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Mirinda Carfrae hauling on the run (sorry, non-Gomez related)
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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [Double-Double] [ In reply to ]
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Double-Double wrote:
Mirinda Carfrae hauling on the run (sorry, non-Gomez related)

So is Beth.
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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [cyclenutnz] [ In reply to ]
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Fasted woman on the run according to IM tracker.
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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [talbotcox] [ In reply to ]
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Why don't they put some footage of Gomez and Currie running on the "Event Feed" link on IM tracker?
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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [Double-Double] [ In reply to ]
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Currie made a move? It now shows him ahead of Javi by 10s.
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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [Double-Double] [ In reply to ]
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Double-Double wrote:


Fasted woman on the run according to IM tracker.

I coach the leader, her race plan based on the others fading after hard starts
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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [TulkasTri] [ In reply to ]
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If Curry wins I know everyone will be like 'oh yea Gomez just went for the experience, wasn't peaking etc' but this shows that Curry is a very good athlete, hopefully puts him on more peoples radars around here.
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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [andy12] [ In reply to ]
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Currie 40secs ahead now at the 35.5km mark

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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [cyclenutnz] [ In reply to ]
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cyclenutnz wrote:
Double-Double wrote:


Fasted woman on the run according to IM tracker.

I coach the leader, her race plan based on the others fading after hard starts

T. Adam- I was looking at her consistent pacing on the bike and run.
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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [andy12] [ In reply to ]
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andy12 wrote:
If Curry wins I know everyone will be like 'oh yea Gomez just went for the experience, wasn't peaking etc' but this shows that Curry is a very good athlete, hopefully puts him on more peoples radars around here.

Heck of a showing by Gomez for his first outing. Heck of a showing by Currie too to take the win. Amazing to see athletes pushing each other so far, so hard. Breaking 8 is becoming a regular to win big races. It is far better for the Gomez fans to have him lose this race then to win it. He will be more hungry and have a greater respect for the training and will perform better in Kona than had he won.


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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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andy12 wrote:
If Curry wins I know everyone will be like 'oh yea Gomez just went for the experience, wasn't peaking etc' but this shows that Curry is a very good athlete, hopefully puts him on more peoples radars around here.

Heck of a showing by Gomez for his first outing. Heck of a showing by Currie too to take the win. Amazing to see athletes pushing each other so far, so hard. Breaking 8 is becoming a regular to win big races. It is far better for the Gomez fans to have him lose this race then to win it. He will be more hungry and have a greater respect for the training and will perform better in Kona than had he won.

Perfect day for Gomez, windy conditions, big time field, he checked all the boxes, proving (to himself) that he can handle the distance. He will be much better with full focus on prep for Kona.
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Double-Double wrote:

T. Adam- I was looking at her consistent pacing on the bike and run.

That's what you get with a 2w variation between AP and NP
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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [B_Doughtie] [ In reply to ]
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Great race by Gomez but again I do not understand the lack of understanding history by some of how hard it is (even for the very best itu guys - at first) to blow fields away

I think this just shows it’s not going to be a runway Gomez show at Kona.

I can’t think of one itu person who ran away with kona their first attempt.
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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [Canuck1] [ In reply to ]
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I wish I came second at a championship race on my first crack at ironman.

Great performance by the top 4 guys.

If only there was video coverage for the run.

Ironman sucked big time.

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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [PJC] [ In reply to ]
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Looks like Currie snuck under 2.40 for the marathon. And Gomez must have been pretty close to 2.40
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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [andy12] [ In reply to ]
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Javier ran a 2:41:02

And did 7:56.

Sub 8 on his first attempt.

Awesome.

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Canuck1 wrote:


Great race by Gomez but again I do not understand the lack of understanding history by some of how hard it is (even for the very best itu guys - at first) to blow fields away

I think this just shows it’s not going to be a runway Gomez show at Kona.

I can’t think of one itu person who ran away with kona their first attempt.

Somewhat agree, but Frodeno came in and went 3rd, 1st and 1st in his first 3 Kona attempts (with his first attempt also coming in the first season after he retired from ITU). Gomez was a significantly better ITU athlete than Frodo, and has been winning major 70.3 races for 4 years, so it's not unreasonable to think he could step up and dominate at IM from the start.
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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [cartsman] [ In reply to ]
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This, and im thinking Frodeno could have won his first year if he hadn’t flatted.
Great race by Currie, really impressed!
Same goes for Gomez and i think most of us have agreed with his sentiment at some point “The race was just 10km too long”.

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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [Canuck1] [ In reply to ]
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Luc van Lierde was a short course guy.
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PJC wrote:
Javier ran a 2:41:02

And did 7:56.

Sub 8 on his first attempt.

Awesome.

Agreed 100%.
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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [bluefever] [ In reply to ]
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Completely agreeing he can and will very likley win big full distance races and kona but my comment was more directed at the talk he would cruise and could win easy because he’s a short course stud and they can win easily and right away - that is very rare.

Not taking away from what he has done here as it’s quite something. But he did not do it easy and he did not win which I think is only part of what will be a quick learning curve for him given his ability.
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Amazing and his longest run was 30 or 35km.
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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [Canuck1] [ In reply to ]
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Canuck1 wrote:
Completely agreeing he can and will very likley win big full distance races and kona but my comment was more directed at the talk he would cruise and could win easy because he’s a short course stud and they can win easily and right away - that is very rare.

Not taking away from what he has done here as it’s quite something. But he did not do it easy and he did not win which I think is only part of what will be a quick learning curve for him given his ability.

It's gonna be interesting moving forward what JG can do. I still believe he will win in 2019 maybe podium this year. Given it's his first race there will be improvement. Also it's June so I would imagine he will be in better shape come Kona (Not that he didn't taper for this).

The last 10km was my only real doubt about JG going into this race, given fast 10km pace doesn't necessarily translate to marathon prowess. From today's results there's work to do but not too much given he didn't completely blow up. Sub 2:40 in Kona is possible this year.

But how about Currie?! Legit contender if fit and healthy?
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Great race, superb by the podium trio. Gomez was every bit as good as I thought, a 7:56 with 2:41 could easily have won.

Main take away is that yes the ‘new’ generation of ITU studs are better than Frodo was, but they’re entering a more competitive long course field.

We’re going to have fun seeing how it unfolds. Love it.
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PJC wrote:
Javier ran a 2:41:02

And did 7:56.

Sub 8 on his first attempt.

Awesome.

This is awesome for sure. I hope that running a 2:41 marathon in June does not take the legs out from under him at Kona when he may need to run the same and he ends up flat and runs 2:48. Has anyone run sub 2:42 twice in the same year and won Kona as the second one? It feels like runninig 2:44 will be needed at Kona. I think Frodo will be double motivated to bike with ths Sanders+Kienle train and gap both Lange and Gomez as much as possible into T2. If Frodo runs 2:48 off a 5 min gap at T2, you will need a 2:42 or so for the win.This will be awesome. I don't see Gomez keeping up with the bike train in Kona.

I do think his shorter long run plan is the right way to roll in training
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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [Double-Double] [ In reply to ]
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She raced well and ran beautifully.

A few good kiwis coming out of that race!!

Good to see rinny again she looks super lean. Beth for 3rd.
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beth mckenzie 2:55 off the bike hahahahahaha

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Heck of a showing by Gomez for his first outing. Heck of a showing by Currie too to take the win. Amazing to see athletes pushing each other so far, so hard. Breaking 8 is becoming a regular to win big races. It is far better for the Gomez fans to have him lose this race then to win it. He will be more hungry and have a greater respect for the training and will perform better in Kona than had he won.


x2.

Gonna be a serious challenger already first year in Kona it seems. I think it was good results for all three on the podium.
Currie to see that he can challenge the best for real and for Bozzone to see where he is on his path to Kona
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Well 2:41.....man so slow ROFL....wow hes incredible!! Thats a fantastic start to his Ironman debut.....and you would think he will only get better. :)

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ericMPro wrote:
beth mckenzie 2:55 off the bike hahahahahaha
Yes. Incredible performance. They keep saying Rinny back from having a baby but so is Beth and she out ran her by a bit.
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Javier ran a 2:41:02

And did 7:56.

Sub 8 on his first attempt. //


You guys need to not get too caught up on times here, actual athlete comparisons are more telling. Take a look at who won, who was right behind him, and their times. It was an OK debut for him, I'm sure he learned a ton out there to move forward. But it was not a top 5 Kona type race for him, but that is ok too. It was a very fast course and that suits him, Kona is not. And I can think of 5 guys that were not there that would have been out in front off the bike, and who can also run those speeds they did.


All in all it was what I expected, really glad Currie had an awesome day to keep it all in perspective. We dont have to wonder if Javier had anything left, he didn't. If he had won by a minute, then there would be all the speculation of could he have run 2;35 and just did enough to win. I'll say that this race did show a new contender for Kona, and Javier is not the only one..Time for those two to start working on their bike speed now for 112, that is where Kona will be much different than this race, and then running low 2;40's off those little bit more tired legs...
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lots of guys sub 2:50 on this run... short course again?

what does this race mean for gomez and kona... no qualification?
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If you read what I've said on Gomez, I've been very adament that I dont think he wins Kona on 1st try. History/race conditions/luck/other athletes is likely hard to overcome on the 1st try. We've seen it what 1 time in 40 years, and we can say Frodo could have done it but he didn't.

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I believe as 70.3 champ he needed o validate with a full. Should be set for Kona.

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180 k bike

40 km run
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Sorry 178 k bike
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If you read what I've said on Gomez, I've been very adament that I dont think he wins Kona on 1st try. History/race conditions/luck/other athletes is likely hard to overcome on the 1st try. We've seen it what 1 time in 40 years, and we can say Frodo could have done it but he didn't.

Agreed. People just greatly underestimate how hard Kona is, the conditions, the environment, the competition.

Gomez will probably play as a factor in the race and if he comes off the bike in a strong position others might play off him on the run.

But when you have Frodeno with experience and is incredibly hungry and the rest of the town contenders vs Gomez, well its not just that easy for Gomez.
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B_Doughtie wrote:
If you read what I've said on Gomez, I've been very adament that I dont think he wins Kona on 1st try. History/race conditions/luck/other athletes is likely hard to overcome on the 1st try. We've seen it what 1 time in 40 years, and we can say Frodo could have done it but he didn't.

I think we should all be able to agree on 2 things-Kona is incredibly difficult, maybe impossible for a first-timer to win; if anyone can do it, it's Gomez.
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agreed

eganski wrote:
B_Doughtie wrote:
If you read what I've said on Gomez, I've been very adament that I dont think he wins Kona on 1st try. History/race conditions/luck/other athletes is likely hard to overcome on the 1st try. We've seen it what 1 time in 40 years, and we can say Frodo could have done it but he didn't.


I think we should all be able to agree on 2 things-Kona is incredibly difficult, maybe impossible for a first-timer to win; if anyone can do it, it's Gomez.

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Yes and I think it's fair to say the level of competition is the highest we've seen right now in LC? So if he does it, it will be a great effort and great race for sure.

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Double-Double wrote:


Fasted woman on the run according to IM tracker.


I coach the leader, her race plan based on the others fading after hard starts

Great to see a former pro water polo player becoming a top triathlete!!! Thought it was very cool that Teresa found it hard to believe she had actually won. How old is she and how long has she been doing triathlons???


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180 k bike

40 km run

2km short on the bike and run... so really these guys didnt crack 8 hours
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synthetic wrote:
stevie g wrote:
180 k bike

40 km run


2km short on the bike and run... so really these guys didnt crack 8 hours

Or as Ironman Texas would say, the course was a bit long.
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eganski wrote:
synthetic wrote:
stevie g wrote:
180 k bike

40 km run


2km short on the bike and run... so really these guys didnt crack 8 hours

Or as Ironman Texas would say, the course was a bit long.

That's gold.

But wasn't TX about the same? ~2km short? Seems within margin of error.

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lots of guys sub 2:50 on this run... short course again? //

Like I said, dont pay too much attention to the times, just look at the places, and who got them. Someone posted that the run was 2k short, if so that means that Gomez's time is just a bit under 2;50, so a solid effort but not to his actual speed. Think the bike was a bit short too, so there is your sub 8 hours out the window right there..


But it was a great race, the boys went full gas, and it was an honest effort to see how Gomez stacks up. I'm not writing him off as of yet, it was his first race after all. He is a really smart dude and he is going to take a look at what he did and what he now needs to do. He knows this was not Kona, not even close. He is a student of the entire sport, has been his whole career, so he is not under any illusions.


But like others have pointed out, a few have won Kona on their first outing(men and women) and certainly Frodo probably would have without mishaps his first year. But you have to factor in the mishap variable, as more than half the pros each year have one in some form or another. Another 1/3 of them just get caught up in an unsustainable pace, and then you have the handful that actually finish strong(or hang on) for the podium. No doubt in my mind that Gomez will be in that mixup for the first 7 hours of the race, that last hour is what he has to work on from now until October..
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CCF wrote:
eganski wrote:
synthetic wrote:
stevie g wrote:
180 k bike

40 km run


2km short on the bike and run... so really these guys didnt crack 8 hours


Or as Ironman Texas would say, the course was a bit long.


That's gold.

But wasn't TX about the same? ~2km short? Seems within margin of error.

What the hell is a km? There are two types of countries-those that use the metric system, and those that landed on the moon.

Just kidding. I thought the bike at Texas was 4-5 miles short?
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No one in their right mind is going to want to tow Gomez and Lange round in a legal bike pack in Kona, if you thought there were fireworks late in the bike last year my assessment is there will be even more this year!

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Kona will be very interesting, depending on who tries to go with Burgs in the swim. If Frodo does, I'm thinking Gomez will as well, but if he doesn't there is no use and he can just chill in the big pack and then get aboard the train. I think either way Gomez will likely enter T2 around the same time as Lange/Nilsson and 5+ min behind Frodo/Sanders/Kienle/Wurf which means either of the need a sub 2:40 to win, and two of them have proven they can do this, Gomez is still unsure though I think it looks good for him.

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Side Note on Frodo's 3rd in 2014:

He also got a penalty after the flat, at this level (at least at Kona) a penalty, I would argue is lack of attention or lack of experience...IE he lost focus for a few seconds trying to catch up and got too close.

Other thing is I saw him walking the first few aid stations of the run....basically taking in 10+ cups of what ever, ice/water on his head....sponges you name it.

I remember texting a few friends in town "Frodo out and walking at 8km...looks like dehydration"

Met them for beers and by far (eyeball test) he was the fastest runner coming back at 15km...of course we had a few beers...

Anyways point being that the 3rd was (1st time in) was a way tougher experience than both his wins, obviously he took those lessons and analyzed/learnt/improved.

People go on about Frodo like he's "just a great athlete" In my view he has learnt the game and is the "mental" favourite at this point.

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I think Gomez confirmed that he will be a contender for the podium in Kona. More importantly Currie proved he is a legitimate threat for the Kona podium. Currie's 2017 Ironman New Zealand win and third place last year in Cairns was not a fluke. Unfortunately for Currie, he had a race mishap that wrecked his Kona race last year and didn't get the recognition he deserved for his excellent season last year.

I think both Gomez and Currie will be smart to race like Lange and McNamee did last year, as racing with the big bike hitters in Kona will wreck their run legs there.
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I agree, Braden Currie is just unbelievable. He just goes and goes and goes. Impressive stuff! He is a legit wildcard at Kona for sure if he gets it right - can swim front group, bike there and runs like a deer...

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Great to see a former pro water polo player becoming a top triathlete!!! Thought it was very cool that Teresa found it hard to believe she had actually won.


Make no mistake - the plan was to go for the win. But having a plan is different from the reality of putting it together and getting the desired result. And she'd crossed the line so was in normal personality ('I like ponies and bunny rabbits') vs race mentality ('I rejoice in the suffering of my adversaries and the lamentations of their menfolk')

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How old is she and how long has she been doing triathlons???


28, joined national ITU program at 18. Got thoroughly burned out and broken by ~23 (ie TRINZ SOP) and started back at 25. Persuaded her to focus on IM last year as it was clear her talents would be wasted on trying for an ITU comeback (wasted in the sense that she is a diesel and would be fighting against that to succeed in ITU, instead of embracing it for IM).

Was only in Cairns for a couple of days so think the short recovery from travel impacted swim and run.
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lots of guys sub 2:50 on this run... short course again?

what does this race mean for gomez and kona... no qualification?
41.94km on my Garmin
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Has he run a low 2:40 though? Since Cairns was short and equals a high 2:40 which he also did in NZ. I don't think anyone who cant run sub 2:45 is going on the podium, especially if they aren't uberbikers, top 10 threat for sure though.

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synthetic wrote:
stevie g wrote:
180 k bike

40 km run

2km short on the bike and run... so really these guys didnt crack 8 hours
178 km bike
42 km run on my garmins. Run wasn’t short so still under 8 hours in my opinion.
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synthetic wrote:
stevie g wrote:
180 k bike

40 km run


2km short on the bike and run... so really these guys didnt crack 8 hours

112miles is 180.2km, which is exactly what Teresas file shows
And 42.1km for run
Do the people saying it was short have double letters in their names?
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3 times in 40 years in the men. Obviously Gordon Haller did it, Dave Scott, and LVL.
In the women, if you ignore the first few years, Chrissie Wellington.
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I'm sure it was just baby doping this time tho
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Obviously Gordon Haller did it, Dave Scott, and LVL.
In the women, if you ignore the first few years,//

Well if we are ignoring the first few years, then you can subtract Haller and Dave Scott too... (-;


If I didn't know better, I might just think you are sexist...And how about Tom Warren??
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I've forgotten a lot more women than men in the old timers. So I guess it was sexist :)

Recently-ish we have only two: CW and LVL.
But I think it isn't as impossible as many think. Had Allen been successful in his marathon attempt he wouldn't have done Kona in 95 and Hellriegel would have won it (not 100pct sure it was his first though. May have race as an AG in 94?)
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ericmulk wrote:
Great to see a former pro water polo player becoming a top triathlete!!! Thought it was very cool that Teresa found it hard to believe she had actually won.

Make no mistake - the plan was to go for the win. But having a plan is different from the reality of putting it together and getting the desired result. And she'd crossed the line so was in normal personality ('I like ponies and bunny rabbits') vs race mentality ('I rejoice in the suffering of my adversaries and the lamentations of their menfolk')

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How old is she and how long has she been doing triathlons???

28, joined national ITU program at 18. Got thoroughly burned out and broken by ~23 (ie TRINZ SOP) and started back at 25. Persuaded her to focus on IM last year as it was clear her talents would be wasted on trying for an ITU comeback (wasted in the sense that she is a diesel and would be fighting against that to succeed in ITU, instead of embracing it for IM).
Was only in Cairns for a couple of days so think the short recovery from travel impacted swim and run.

Great background info, thanks!!! I'll be following her at future races!!!


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Luc van Lierde was a short course guy.
So was Thomas Hellreigel prior to getting into Ironman.
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Indeed. If I recall he was European champion short distance in 1994. Maybe military division though.
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Great to see a former pro water polo player becoming a top triathlete!!! Thought it was very cool that Teresa found it hard to believe she had actually won.


Make no mistake - the plan was to go for the win. But having a plan is different from the reality of putting it together and getting the desired result. And she'd crossed the line so was in normal personality ('I like ponies and bunny rabbits') vs race mentality ('I rejoice in the suffering of my adversaries and the lamentations of their menfolk')

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How old is she and how long has she been doing triathlons???


28, joined national ITU program at 18. Got thoroughly burned out and broken by ~23 (ie TRINZ SOP) and started back at 25. Persuaded her to focus on IM last year as it was clear her talents would be wasted on trying for an ITU comeback (wasted in the sense that she is a diesel and would be fighting against that to succeed in ITU, instead of embracing it for IM).

Was only in Cairns for a couple of days so think the short recovery from travel impacted swim and run.

did she have a child somewhere along the way also? not sure if i am getting her confused with someone else!
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did she have a child somewhere along the way also? not sure if i am getting her confused with someone else!

You're definitely confused. About this too ;-)
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did she have a child somewhere along the way also? not sure if i am getting her confused with someone else!


You're definitely confused. About this too ;-)

well one thing that isn't confusing is that she's obviously doing pretty good being coached by you!
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Great to see a former pro water polo player becoming a top triathlete!!! Thought it was very cool that Teresa found it hard to believe she had actually won.


Make no mistake - the plan was to go for the win. But having a plan is different from the reality of putting it together and getting the desired result. And she'd crossed the line so was in normal personality ('I like ponies and bunny rabbits') vs race mentality ('I rejoice in the suffering of my adversaries and the lamentations of their menfolk')

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How old is she and how long has she been doing triathlons???


28, joined national ITU program at 18. Got thoroughly burned out and broken by ~23 (ie TRINZ SOP) and started back at 25. Persuaded her to focus on IM last year as it was clear her talents would be wasted on trying for an ITU comeback (wasted in the sense that she is a diesel and would be fighting against that to succeed in ITU, instead of embracing it for IM).

Was only in Cairns for a couple of days so think the short recovery from travel impacted swim and run.

David, how tall is Teresa? I know from Instagram that she's on a 48 P2 with a -35* stem, so I am assuming she's not a big girl - but very strong rider. It's going to be interesting to see her on the Queen K, with her swim she's going to play a part in the race for a while at least. Also, the fact she's on a pretty stock P2 (regular brakes, for heaven's sake!) is awesome - proof that position and execution trump a lot of things for sure!

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Indeed. If I recall he was European champion short distance in 1994. Maybe military division though.

Thomas won World Military Games 1995. He beat Olivier Marceau and Dmitri Gaag. That was Olympic distance in Sep, 5 weeks before Kona. That year, he won Ironman Lanzarote and was 4th at Roth. I know because I was 48th in the same race and Thomas lapped me during the 4x2.5K run course (my equivalent to drive by brag...still not bad when you only get lapped part way into the run when these guys went around 1:48). LVL got ITU World's silver 1996 but never raced military. Dmitri Gaag won ITU world's Montreal 1999. Olivier Marceau won ITU World's Perth 2000. So Thomas beat some fast guys. Also in the same world military Games race, Stadler was 3rd or 4th. Stadler was reigning World Duathlon champion from 1994 (Hobart, Tasmania)

Also in 1992, if I recall correctly Thomas was 6th at ITU world's in Muskoka. He had some serious short course speed. Well you don't go 8:06 in Kona without some short course speed.

OK back to the Gomez thread.
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David, how tall is Teresa? I know from Instagram that she's on a 48 P2 with a -35* stem, so I am assuming she's not a big girl - but very strong rider.

Around 164cm (5'4), not something that has been necessary to measure precisely.
Her partner Dan handles her bike fit and setup minutiae, I just swoop in for some occasional seagull management.

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It's going to be interesting to see her on the Queen K, with her swim she's going to play a part in the race for a while at least. Also, the fact she's on a pretty stock P2 (regular brakes, for heaven's sake!) is awesome - proof that position and execution trump a lot of things for sure!
Brent

A P2 bought used after she got 2nd in national half IM champs on a road bike with clip ons (to be fair, Dan had got her into a really good TT position on that bike). I'd hesitate to say it's a stock P2 though.
Kona is going to be interesting, there will be a careful plan to optimise her outcomes.
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I checked. Hellriegel was second at the European championship in 1993. Behind Simon Lessing actually.
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dfru wrote:


David, how tall is Teresa? I know from Instagram that she's on a 48 P2 with a -35* stem, so I am assuming she's not a big girl - but very strong rider.


Around 164cm (5'4), not something that has been necessary to measure precisely.
Her partner Dan handles her bike fit and setup minutiae, I just swoop in for some occasional seagull management.

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It's going to be interesting to see her on the Queen K, with her swim she's going to play a part in the race for a while at least. Also, the fact she's on a pretty stock P2 (regular brakes, for heaven's sake!) is awesome - proof that position and execution trump a lot of things for sure!
Brent


A P2 bought used after she got 2nd in national half IM champs on a road bike with clip ons (to be fair, Dan had got her into a really good TT position on that bike). I'd hesitate to say it's a stock P2 though.
Kona is going to be interesting, there will be a careful plan to optimise her outcomes.

Not stock...I see the Cobb crankset. Couple of tririg brakes and she's good to go. I don't mean stock in any derogatory way - I LOVE my P2 and have it set up pretty slick (I think) and feel like I really am not giving up too much. While I am sure she will have some bike suitors, I kind of really hope she's on the same bike in Kona. Dan's done a REALLY good job.

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What's the chance that Gomez eased up a bit on the run, not wanting to show all his cards? I'd think he could run faster than he did at Cairns based on his sub 30 Olympic speed. Plus it looks like he rode with a few other riders, so maybe didn't bike as hard as riding solo or leading a group.

Did he simply have to validate at an IM based on winning the 70.3 WC or does he need more points from70.3 races?

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What's the chance that Gomez eased up a bit on the run, not wanting to show all his cards? I'd think he could run faster than he did at Cairns based on his sub 30 Olympic speed. Plus it looks like he rode with a few other riders, so maybe didn't bike as hard as riding solo or leading a group.

Did he simply have to validate at an IM based on winning the 70.3 WC or does he need more points from70.3 races?

All valid points.....but I can't imagine that a guy like him just gifts away a win when the A event is still 4 months away. I think if he could take the win with a slight bit more effort then he would, but he could not.

Yes, he just needed to validate
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Based on what everyone said watching was he didn’t look comfortable and they were going full gas. Currie was the better athlete on the day. When I saw them the few times on the bike course Gomez was tacked on the very back of the train both times. It was basically headwind the 70km return to town and they must have had a shake up closer to town creating the gaps.
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how about he eased up because he was tanked and didn't want to leave his race in June instead of October when he needs it?

The guy's a pro, he knows what he's doing. No shame in getting beat by an on form athlete on your first try.

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What's the chance that Gomez eased up a bit on the run, not wanting to show all his cards? I'd think he could run faster than he did at Cairns based on his sub 30 Olympic speed. Plus it looks like he rode with a few other riders, so maybe didn't bike as hard as riding solo or leading a group.

Did he simply have to validate at an IM based on winning the 70.3 WC or does he need more points from70.3 races?

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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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PJC wrote:
Javier ran a 2:41:02

And did 7:56.

Sub 8 on his first attempt.

Awesome.


This is awesome for sure. I hope that running a 2:41 marathon in June does not take the legs out from under him at Kona when he may need to run the same and he ends up flat and runs 2:48. Has anyone run sub 2:42 twice in the same year and won Kona as the second one? It feels like runninig 2:44 will be needed at Kona. I think Frodo will be double motivated to bike with ths Sanders+Kienle train and gap both Lange and Gomez as much as possible into T2. If Frodo runs 2:48 off a 5 min gap at T2, you will need a 2:42 or so for the win.This will be awesome. I don't see Gomez keeping up with the bike train in Kona.

I do think his shorter long run plan is the right way to roll in training

I also am curious how much this took out of his legs for Kona. This was a really strong race for first time out at an IM. The gamesmanship required as strategies to race Kona will be the tell tale there. Always nice to see the ITU guys make the jump to IM as it raises the bar each time.
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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [ericMPro] [ In reply to ]
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how about he eased up because he was tanked and didn't want to leave his race in June instead of October when he needs it? //

I will go one even better, how about he got popped by a faster running athlete, and could not stay with the pace anymore?? Sheesh, you guys dont have to make excuses for him, he just plain got beat in a race. Not his first time, not his last. Where do you all get it in your heads that athletes not first, fighting for first(or any good place for that matter) just up and decide to give it away and save it for another day? As if backing off and saving a minute 4 months out from another race actually means anything??

He wanted to win this race, he tried his best to win this race, and nothing was going to let him win this race in those last miles.
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monty wrote:
how about he eased up because he was tanked and didn't want to leave his race in June instead of October when he needs it? //

I will go one even better, how about he got popped by a faster running athlete, and could not stay with the pace anymore?? Sheesh, you guys dont have to make excuses for him, he just plain got beat in a race. Not his first time, not his last. Where do you all get it in your heads that athletes not first, fighting for first(or any good place for that matter) just up and decide to give it away and save it for another day? As if backing off and saving a minute 4 months out from another race actually means anything??

He wanted to win this race, he tried his best to win this race, and nothing was going to let him win this race in those last miles.
^^ 100%

People need to realize that the course record was beaten by 8 min I believe too and it wasn’t the easiest of conditions on the day.
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Great to see a former pro water polo player becoming a top triathlete!!! Thought it was very cool that Teresa found it hard to believe she had actually won.


Make no mistake - the plan was to go for the win. But having a plan is different from the reality of putting it together and getting the desired result. And she'd crossed the line so was in normal personality ('I like ponies and bunny rabbits') vs race mentality ('I rejoice in the suffering of my adversaries and the lamentations of their menfolk')

excellent ! congratulations to you and Teresa..

I thought reading the race report, 'ex water polo player, so will be laughing during the swim'..
50-something, ten minutes ahead of the other women.. strong.
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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [MI_Mumps] [ In reply to ]
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you guys all sure he goes to kona?

http://m.eu.ironman.com/...nman-qualifying.aspx

I couldn‘t find an exemption for 70.3 WC winners to qualify by only finishing a full.
means he needs to go via the KPR and place top40, right?
so far he placed 4th in 70.3 Bahrain and 2nd in Cairns.
Will that be enough or does he have to race more in June/July?
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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [trisomemari] [ In reply to ]
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trisomemari wrote:
you guys all sure he goes to kona?

http://m.eu.ironman.com/...nman-qualifying.aspx

I couldn‘t find an exemption for 70.3 WC winners to qualify by only finishing a full.
means he needs to go via the KPR and place top40, right?
so far he placed 4th in 70.3 Bahrain and 2nd in Cairns.
Will that be enough or does he have to race more in June/July?

He is currently ranked 6th in the KPR standings:



That * says: "Fulfilled requirement of scoring in qualifying full distance event"
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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [trisomemari] [ In reply to ]
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He's in 6th place..eta: IM Frankfurt is only regional race left w/ massive points. I think he's pretty much good to go.

Brooks Doughtie, M.S.
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-USAT Level II
Last edited by: B_Doughtie: Jun 13, 18 11:45
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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [talbotcox] [ In reply to ]
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Looks like Gomez wore a road helmet?


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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [trisomemari] [ In reply to ]
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trisomemari wrote:
you guys all sure he goes to kona?

http://m.eu.ironman.com/...nman-qualifying.aspx

I couldn‘t find an exemption for 70.3 WC winners to qualify by only finishing a full.
means he needs to go via the KPR and place top40, right?
so far he placed 4th in 70.3 Bahrain and 2nd in Cairns.
Will that be enough or does he have to race more in June/July?

As far as I know the 70.3 World's winner just has to validate by doing a full IM. They don't need to make the KPR top 50 to get an invite. So he should be in, unless they changed the validation requiremenent.

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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Based on reading over the kpr page it’s 70.3 champ isn’t valid *anymore*. But regional champ race podium almost is pretty much a guarantee.

Brooks Doughtie, M.S.
Exercise Physiology
-USAT Level II
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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Based upon the KPR rankings right now he sits in 6th place. Usually you only need 3,900 points to get into the mens race. I think Javi is well over that. He is in.


Also check out the newest video. :)
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Yes, WTC eliminated the AQ for 70.3 Champs in 2017. However, with Thorsten Radde estimating ~3500-3700 points as the amount needed for a male to earn a Kona slot in the July cut-off (more like 4400 for females), with over 7300 points, there's no question that Javier has enough points to qualify.
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talbotcox wrote:
Based upon the KPR rankings right now he sits in 6th place. Usually you only need 3,900 points to get into the mens race. I think Javi is well over that. He is in.


Also check out the newest video. :)

Saw the video last night. Loved it.

Did you get any post-race interview with Javi?
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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [talbotcox] [ In reply to ]
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tanks for the feedback.
and great video once again @talbotcox
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Re: Will Javier Gomez run Sub 2:40? **Video Interview** [TulkasTri] [ In reply to ]
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Man to tell you the truth I put down my camera after the race and went to enjoy my birthday and scuba dived with great barrier reef with tim and rinny. haha. But I did chat with Carlos and Javi I think I am going to go out to spain to do some training / life style videos on the build up for 70.3 worlds and kona.
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