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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Slowman]
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Slowman]
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Here's the live positions link ....
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
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German livestream if you're interested in no commercials and better footage: http://hessenschau.de/...-livestream-100.html The streams starts in approximately 15 min.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Slowman]
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They are already talking about how fast the swim is going to be today, guess that answers our question if they shortened the course. Looks like they will probably be going with the short buoys they set up last week for the test swim. I just hope they set the old records into another category rather than erase them, unlike the supersuit records that were set in swimming.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Leddy]
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Slowman]
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Pros are in the water warming up. Not a breath of wind and dead calm conditions for the swim. Absolutely stunning sunrise. It's going to be a special day.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
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so far......files i got from athlete doing the test swim last weekend show it wasnt short....but a few meters long.
i think the commentator are just doing small talk. there is no way for anyone to know if the course will be fast or not....if the current will be there or not etc.
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i think the commentator are just doing small talk. there is no way for anyone to know if the course will be fast or not....if the current will be there or not etc.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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Thanks. Any other options for coverage either English commentary?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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flyingirish wrote:
German livestream if you're interested in no commercials and better footage: http://hessenschau.de/...-livestream-100.html The streams starts in approximately 15 min.I followed that stream last year and loved it. At the end I almost remembered my high school German.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Simple Stevie]
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Not that I am aware of. But others may know of something.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [jonnyo]
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so far......files i got from athlete doing the test swim last weekend show it wasnt short....but a few meters long.
I meant short from the traditional course they have been using for over 35 years..I have no idea what it measures out to, just that it has not changed over the years, until apparently this year.
I meant short from the traditional course they have been using for over 35 years..I have no idea what it measures out to, just that it has not changed over the years, until apparently this year.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
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They are already talking about how fast the swim is going to be today, guess that answers our question if they shortened the course. Looks like they will probably be going with the short buoys they set up last week for the test swim. I just hope they set the old records into another category rather than erase them, unlike the supersuit records that were set in swimming.x2 on that. When I looked at the hour by hour weather for Kona and Hawi it does not go much above 85F today and winds in the 12-16 mph range. Looks like it should be a headwind up to Hawi, tailwind coming down and headwind all the way back once they get back on the QueenK. Still looks like sub 8 weather with the new swim reduction if guys race each other from the gun rather than play poker
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Slowman]
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Link straight to the livestream source (can chromecast from chrome browser at least):
http://livestream.com/ironman/events/6435012
Link to live blog (helpful if out and about on mobile):
http://embed.scribblelive.com/...22&ThemeId=33838
http://livestream.com/ironman/events/6435012
Link to live blog (helpful if out and about on mobile):
http://embed.scribblelive.com/...22&ThemeId=33838
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
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Just got home from the pool. Got it going with 55 seconds on the clock. Great picture so far. Have to go make lunch.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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flyingirish wrote:
German livestream if you're interested in no commercials and better footage: http://hessenschau.de/...-livestream-100.html The streams starts in approximately 15 min.cheers - better quality but my German ain't so good. What's the best thing to accompany the footage? Apart from this thread of course :-)
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [zamm0]
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Once they get on the bike the German one is the one to watch and if you are able to have the traditional IM live broadcast in the background so you can get the english audio. Last year, the IM footage missed a lot of the action as they were chatting away about who knows what and the producers didn't cut to the action but the german broadcast caught it.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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Potts looks to be swimming a very smart race. Tucked in 3rd for a good draft, not wasting energy trying to tow the whole group. Let's see if that gives him some good energy to finally bike on some decent rubber! I
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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Good early pace, Potts seems lost and now is sitting on. Still a large front group, someone will have to put the hammer down soon if they want just a few coming out together. Looks like a 3 group split happening right now.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Halvard]
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Halvard wrote:
flyingirish wrote:
German livestream if you're interested in no commercials and better footage: http://hessenschau.de/...-livestream-100.html The streams starts in approximately 15 min.I followed that stream last year and loved it. At the end I almost remembered my high school German.
I'm glad I speak German. It's so much better, a different class of commentary by pro TV presenters, and athlete who can actually recognize the people in the swim. Very good.
Thanks!
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Slowman]
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Looks like the second placed swimmer has covered shoulders? How come? Is this allowed?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [AndiMacTen]
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there's another thread on this. apparently yes, it's now allowed.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [AndiMacTen]
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They changed the rules this past year so that you can have your shoulders covered. just can't go past your elbows or knees
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [AndiMacTen]
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So 25 guys together and they are on 45+ pace. Unless there was a massive tail current, looks like the buoys got moved in, oh well..
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Slowman]
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
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So 25 guys together and they are on 45+ pace. Unless there was a massive tail current, looks like the buoys got moved in, oh well..Thats at least about 5 minutes faster than normal, right?
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
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Got to love that the commentators are completely ignoring the shortening of the swim course and acting as if nothing has happened and all of a sudden there are 15+males under record pace
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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Got to love that the commentators are completely ignoring the shortening of the swim course and acting as if nothing has happened and all of a sudden there are 15+males under record pace
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [spot]
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Thats at least about 5 minutes faster than normal, right? //
Hard to tell without knowing which way the current is going, if any. We will know in a few minutes at any rate, Matt Leito just commented that looks to him the record is going down. 5th fastest guy in the world at the 1500 in swimming who held it too.
Hard to tell without knowing which way the current is going, if any. We will know in a few minutes at any rate, Matt Leito just commented that looks to him the record is going down. 5th fastest guy in the world at the 1500 in swimming who held it too.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [zamm0]
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Well Greg Welch is in his own world at times :)
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
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What's with the guy singing over the PA in the background??
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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I think you are right, they don't have any idea, but someone should be telling them just from these threads here on ST. Someone on twitter or Facebook has to be mentioning it, aren't they?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [RowToTri]
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Slowman]
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Did Lovato just say bodies humping for the ag men's start?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
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If they were smart, they would just watch this thread and make use of each Easter egg that pops up!
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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One thing that is going to screw with guys like Lionel and Rapp is that they will be looking at their swim times not knowing they are not real, at least as compared as to how far they came out from the leaders. Maybe someone will tell them so they don't get too excited when they swim low 50's..
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [RowToTri]
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HA! I made the Kona broadcast! Lovato shutting down the idea that the course is short.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
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It actually may help them. If they come out and see the times they make think positively about their day and its helps them along. But I am guessing Jordan has been following the forum just a tad is probably aware of the course shortening.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
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Our own Ed Omalley just tried to help them out on the course and they said "no way!"
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [RowToTri]
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That was great! Got a good laugh out of that!
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [RowToTri]
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Ya I heard him, and not short Matt, but shorter than the past 35 years!! Way to go Ed O'mally, now ask him if they shortened the course from past years...
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [RowToTri]
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HA! I made the Kona broadcast! Lovato shutting down the idea that the course is short.I love how the German broadcast is talking about the different swimming courses and what they are different.
High level of commenting and knowledge.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
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AG women and pro men going noggin to noggin....
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Halvard]
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Ha, they screw themselves with the short swim, now running into the AG Womens start!!
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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Having the women age group starting as the elite men finish is the dumbest thing I seen in a while
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
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Wow, one of the commentators said 47:12 for his guess. Pretty darn close
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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Is it just me or is the resolution crappy on the stream? There don't seem to be any options to adjust it?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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Looking at the massive amount of guys swimming under 49, have to say it was shortened around 150 or so +/-50m. Guess they will now have to shorten the Womens gap to the men so they dont run head on anymore!
Love that the German broadcast is talking about the shorter swim.
Love that the German broadcast is talking about the shorter swim.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [fulla]
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It will go in and out during the day depending on where the camera is at.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [fulla]
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Please Twitter Welch and lavato again about the new turn buoy. This is getting embarrassing
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [fulla]
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Looks fantastic through my Roku3 Livestream app on my 60 inch TV.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
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Looks like there is some good cyclists around Rapp that will help close the gap to the leaders.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
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25th place at 49-flat? why would you say the course is short?
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
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so 2:50 faster than last year...most likely over 200m difference with last year... lionel out in 56min....but already almost 10min behind....
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [M~]
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I just finished watching the All Blacks whip South Africa's ass through chromecast (currently no tv aerial here so all viewing is done through the net), and the resolution was so much better.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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Lead Womens group dogging the swim and going to go 52, case closed on the shortened course..
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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Sanders is going to have a bit of work to do being several minutes down and by himself.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [fulla]
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Yeah I know what you mean.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [jonnyo]
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so 2:50 faster than last year...most likely over 200m difference with last year..
Ya Jonnyo, that seems to be the consensus, the course was shortened about 200m or so from all the other 35 years. I dont like it, but they can do what they want, the new owners have a different sensibility about history than I do I guess..
Ya Jonnyo, that seems to be the consensus, the course was shortened about 200m or so from all the other 35 years. I dont like it, but they can do what they want, the new owners have a different sensibility about history than I do I guess..
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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Sanders is going to have a bit of work to do being several minutes down and by himself.pity but OTOH looking forward to see him smash the bike
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [fulla]
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I've got the German video on the TV and the IM broadcast on my Chromebook. Once I clicked out of the IM broadcast it took me abot 20 minutes to get the Germans working. My picture and sound to really line up but the German picture looks better.
I saw the new Diamondback in transition. Man that thing looks wild. Glad I have a Felt IA.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
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Rinny out of the water only about 3 minutes down?! She's in GREAT position.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Sweeney]
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Why is Frodeno not showing up on the GPS tracking page? Shows McMahon as the frost rider...
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Slowman]
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Is there anyone riding a P5x?
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Slowman]
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Jan Frodeno dropped his tracking device in T1.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Power13]
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Power13 wrote:
Why is Frodeno not showing up on the GPS tracking page? Shows McMahon as the frost rider...Looks like he has lost his transmitter.
Hopefully they can be in a pocked in the race suit in the future.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [RowToTri]
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Rinny out of the water only about 3 minutes down?! She's in GREAT position.
No surprise, like I said, the lead Womens group dogged it after the turnaround. Looked like there would be a break going out, then they put on the brakes and let a lot of women back in the group, and of course let the other groups stay much closer. It may come back to haunt them later on, well for sure it will for most as Rinny runs by them in the first few miles rather than late in the race..And it doesn't hurt the dropped groups that the swim is not shorter too..
No surprise, like I said, the lead Womens group dogged it after the turnaround. Looked like there would be a break going out, then they put on the brakes and let a lot of women back in the group, and of course let the other groups stay much closer. It may come back to haunt them later on, well for sure it will for most as Rinny runs by them in the first few miles rather than late in the race..And it doesn't hurt the dropped groups that the swim is not shorter too..
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [RowToTri]
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I see the commentators still haven't learned to take a breath. heh. Greg Welch just needs to talk slower and add in pauses. And when they swap talking, someone else doesn't need to take over in 0.2 of a second.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Sweeney]
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"Is there anyone riding a P5x?"
8 or 10. freddy van lierde was the only rider who had one early. all the other cervelo athletes for which there was a P5X available were given the choice to ride their existing P5 or take a new P5X. most chose the latter. i believe jodie swallow is one one, both the wurteles, piampiano, etc.
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8 or 10. freddy van lierde was the only rider who had one early. all the other cervelo athletes for which there was a P5X available were given the choice to ride their existing P5 or take a new P5X. most chose the latter. i believe jodie swallow is one one, both the wurteles, piampiano, etc.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Halvard]
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Halvard wrote:
Power13 wrote:
Why is Frodeno not showing up on the GPS tracking page? Shows McMahon as the frost rider...Looks like he has lost his transmitter.
Hopefully they can be in a pocked in the race suit in the future.
What about Potts? Tracker #4 is not moving.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Slowman]
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Slowman wrote:
"Is there anyone riding a P5x?" 8 or 10. freddy van lierde was the only rider who had one early. all the other cervelo athletes for which there was a P5X available were given the choice to ride their existing P5 or take a new P5X. most chose the latter. i believe jodie swallow is one one, both the wurteles, piampiano, etc.
Nice. All they need is a good finish and we will all shut up. Saw the Diamondback in transition. Well, maybe it will look better in black.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [fulla]
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I see the commentators still haven't learned to take a breath. heh. Greg Welch just needs to talk slower and add in pauses. And when they swap talking, someone else doesn't need to take over in 0.2 of a second.you have to remember most of the audience is probably American (lots of razzamataz needed)
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [GreatScott]
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He's in the front pack. watching right now on the german feed
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Sweeney]
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If they need a break, why not just stop talking and show the race rather than this BS.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [GreatScott]
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He made a big move into 2nd place. Maybe he dropped his tracker too.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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IF he could just get out of the water in the top 20 it would be so much better. He barely beat the women out of the water.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [ffmedic84]
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AP shadowing every move by JF!
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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I just opened a new window and the resolution improved. Went From Almost pixelated to near HD.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [GreatScott]
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This is most definitely not the same production team that did it last year. Testing mics while live? Even I don't do that.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Hutch]
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I am sure Brent reads slowtwtich as does Potts and they are going to shut us all up today.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [M~]
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You expect too much of IM
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [GreatScott]
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We saw a pic of Andy Potts on a disc brake Cannondale. He's not on that bike today.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [BMANX]
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I am sure Brent reads slowtwtich as does Potts and they are going to shut us all up today.Does that mean Potts got rid of the Gatorskins?
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [GreatScott]
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Do you have a link for the live trackers? I'm not seeing the page with the moving athletes.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Sweeney]
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We saw a pic of Andy Potts on a disc brake Cannondale. He's not on that bike today.he looks a bit high on the front end as well... weird!
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Slowman]
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Looks like they devalued the swim just like their currency.
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25th place at 49-flat? why would you say the course is short?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Runner Rick]
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He is in second right now so I would say YES!
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [snaaijert]
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
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wrong…..how many times you race there? fast one way and slow the other every year….monty swim expert? :)
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [r0bh]
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Greg Welch and studying the kona winds. Boy, does he like to blow
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [r0bh]
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r0bh wrote:
GPS: https://batrk.co/Events/IMWCKona/?g=MPRO Timing: https://ironstats.org/...-iron-MPRO-live.html
Thanks!
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [BMANX]
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [BMANX]
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Looks like the Skipper/Weiss/Schildknicht/Aernouts group has caught on the back of the Kienle/Rapp/Thomas group
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [BMANX]
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Daniella Ryf is sitting at the front of the womens race. It'll be tough for the runners, I.E. Rinny, to make up time on Ryf
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [r0bh]
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Maybe that group can pick up the pace but the guys at the front are spanking the back groups.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [LJS]
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wrong…..how many times you race there? fast one way and slow the other every year….monty swim expert? :)
Ya, I only swam the race 15 times and another couple 100 times outside of the race. Just a fluke that almost 30 guys broke 49 flat or better on the same day. More than all the years before combined!! (-;
Ya, I only swam the race 15 times and another couple 100 times outside of the race. Just a fluke that almost 30 guys broke 49 flat or better on the same day. More than all the years before combined!! (-;
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [LuisDF]
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LuisDF wrote:
Sweeney wrote:
We saw a pic of Andy Potts on a disc brake Cannondale. He's not on that bike today.he looks a bit high on the front end as well... weird!
He always looked that way. Supossedly worked on position this year. I guess he went back to what works.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [BMANX]
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BMANX wrote:
Sanders might want to pick it up a bit more. He is riding solo at 23 mph and the guys in the front are riding 23 mph in the group. His day is DONE! Maybe top 10 if he runs sub 2:40I can't wait to read another drafting blog post...
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Tri-Banter]
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Depends on how much work Rinny does to catch the front. Ryf is hard to beat when she is off the front.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [LJS]
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"wrong…..how many times you race there? fast one way and slow the other every year….monty swim expert? :)"
pink. right?
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pink. right?
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [LuisDF]
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Oh you know it is coming. He just needs to swim faster.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Slowman]
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Slowman wrote:
25th place at 49-flat? why would you say the course is short?Yeah, this one time a few years ago there were 25ish together and the leader only went 50:51 or so. Must have been a slow year that year, or maybe just a slow leader. :)
But yeah, 26th place out of the swim in 49:04, and most of those guys were at least 2 minutes faster than a few years ago...
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [BMANX]
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On an average day, how much faster is Rinny's run over Ryf's? Anyone have a rough idea?
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [BMANX]
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Looks like sanders got a mechanical he is way back.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [BMANX]
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SK on the move is a sight to behold. Love watching that guy ride.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [CementBottle]
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CementBottle wrote:
Looks like sanders got a mechanical he is way back.We typically that mechanical "swimming"
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [CementBottle]
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I did not realize that a weak swim = bike mechanical?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [BMANX]
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Weiss just blew by Kienle on his Andean....
Edit to clarify...Weiss, on his Andean, just blew by Kienle.
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Edit to clarify...Weiss, on his Andean, just blew by Kienle.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [BMANX]
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Ryf looks so good on her FELT! so natural looking and fast.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Tri-Banter]
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Tri-Banter wrote:
On an average day, how much faster is Rinny's run over Ryf's? Anyone have a rough idea?Hard to say. Two years ago I think Ryf was up 14 mins at t2 and rinny won, but ryf definitely improved alot since then. Last year rinny dnf ofc.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [BMANX]
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His GPS is not updating last update 15 minutes ago so it has him near the back of the race going backwards.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Slowman]
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Slowman wrote:
yes. after you've typed in your email address!
DAM IT ! I would've been one of the first
ETA got an error message. Oh well back to race
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Power13]
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From doping to mechanical doping as there is more than enough room in that frame for a motor
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
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exactly….was tongue in cheek response. Appreciate its hard to weed through the troll, Pubes, etc type posters. I know your background and was surprised to see your comment on record swim with you having swum there so many times….as have I not quite as many but enough to know.
I like the fact they still can't beat the ole day records….I'm 45 so not a dinosaur but….kinda am
I like the fact they still can't beat the ole day records….I'm 45 so not a dinosaur but….kinda am
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [CementBottle]
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It just updated. he's closing the gap to the 2nd group.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [BMANX]
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all these really aero frames....and then they stick their heads up like periscopes
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
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I just wonder if we'll actually find out if the swim is 'accurate' now, or if maybe it was 'just' time to get a sub-8 Kona win...
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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Am I mistaken in thinking Kienle is wearing an aero road helmet?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [fulla]
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Ya, he is. Certainly a change from previous years.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [-BrandonMarshTX]
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Swim course change revealed this week on Slowtwitch:
http://forum.slowtwitch.com/...;;page=unread#unread
http://forum.slowtwitch.com/...;;page=unread#unread
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [fulla]
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fulla wrote:
Am I mistaken in thinking Kienle is wearing an aero road helmet?You're not mistaken. Looks like a Scott Cadence, same one that Orica uses.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [shamrocks]
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I remember when slowtwitchers used to complain that there was no IM coverage. Now we even have start to finish audio and video and the complains don't stop. So typical.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [zamm0]
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Brent McMahon is so upright, can't believe Specialized hasn't helped him improve that.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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That was sooooo lame. They just used Kennedy's Rice stadium speech. It was about landing on the fricken moon. Not some pokey event in Kona.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [-BrandonMarshTX]
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I just wonder if we'll actually find out if the swim is 'accurate' now, or if maybe it was 'just' time to get a sub-8 Kona win...
Just like Anthony Weiner, or Paul Ryan and his marathon, we will know for sure how much they shortened the swim. In this day and age no one gets away with anything, and like all the cheaters we catch here, we will ferret out this one too. To you and I it is obvious, but the rest will need proof and they will get it. All this google earth and map stuff will be the final word. People have saved screen shots of past years, so they will be able to show how much they got moved in.
Who would have thunk that the real doping story of this years Ironman would be the swim course!!!
Just like Anthony Weiner, or Paul Ryan and his marathon, we will know for sure how much they shortened the swim. In this day and age no one gets away with anything, and like all the cheaters we catch here, we will ferret out this one too. To you and I it is obvious, but the rest will need proof and they will get it. All this google earth and map stuff will be the final word. People have saved screen shots of past years, so they will be able to show how much they got moved in.
Who would have thunk that the real doping story of this years Ironman would be the swim course!!!
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Slowman]
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it should have been….it was total tongue in cheek which i wrote him the same. I did write it from 15 years of swimming the same course so i'm not a total "non expert"….he should know, its fast one way its not the other…..most of the time.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Dilbert]
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LOL. I was watching the german feed with Frodo crushing when it came on it so it fit pretty good.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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flyingirish wrote:
It just updated. he's closing the gap to the 2nd group.Seems we'll have two bunches soon, with LS in the second.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Dilbert]
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Cool Ventum commercial
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [GreatScott]
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It does and the second bunch is in pulling in the first group.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Cdn_Biker]
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I remember him mentioning the position was tested but there was some issues with his body that did not allow for a very low position.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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ironman.com wrote:
The lead men have passed Waikoloa with McMahon and Potts still leading. It's still a long line with the top 20 riders spread out over 30 seconds on the road.Think of all the saved watts.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
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seriously who cares
the intersting stuff is that the lead groups were bigger and in the maes the shorten swim has 0 impact as the 2nd pack was closing at the end.
Just like Anthony Weiner, or Paul Ryan and his marathon, we will know for sure how much they shortened the swim. In this day and age no one gets away with anything, and like all the cheaters we catch here, we will ferret out this one too. To you and I it is obvious, but the rest will need proof and they will get it. All this google earth and map stuff will be the final word. People have saved screen shots of past years, so they will be able to show how much they got moved in.
Who would have thunk that the real doping story of this years Ironman would be the swim course!!!
the intersting stuff is that the lead groups were bigger and in the maes the shorten swim has 0 impact as the 2nd pack was closing at the end.
monty wrote:
I just wonder if we'll actually find out if the swim is 'accurate' now, or if maybe it was 'just' time to get a sub-8 Kona win... Just like Anthony Weiner, or Paul Ryan and his marathon, we will know for sure how much they shortened the swim. In this day and age no one gets away with anything, and like all the cheaters we catch here, we will ferret out this one too. To you and I it is obvious, but the rest will need proof and they will get it. All this google earth and map stuff will be the final word. People have saved screen shots of past years, so they will be able to show how much they got moved in.
Who would have thunk that the real doping story of this years Ironman would be the swim course!!!
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
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jordan swam 52:34. let's say that swim is 1:30 fast. still, 54-flat on a normal day is a great swim for jordan. more importantly he came out of the water with jesse thomas, which i doubt jordan has ever done, and kienle.
but the real race for him starts now because arnouts, weiss, skipper all took 1:30 out of him to ride up to him (and kienle and thomas). what's the over/under on how long it takes that group to catch the front group? and who among those 7 is going to stick through 100 miles?
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but the real race for him starts now because arnouts, weiss, skipper all took 1:30 out of him to ride up to him (and kienle and thomas). what's the over/under on how long it takes that group to catch the front group? and who among those 7 is going to stick through 100 miles?
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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Interesting (and good) to see LS sitting in the chase group and not just blowing through solo.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
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monty wrote:
I just wonder if we'll actually find out if the swim is 'accurate' now, or if maybe it was 'just' time to get a sub-8 Kona win... Just like Anthony Weiner, or Paul Ryan and his marathon, we will know for sure how much they shortened the swim. In this day and age no one gets away with anything, and like all the cheaters we catch here, we will ferret out this one too. To you and I it is obvious, but the rest will need proof and they will get it. All this google earth and map stuff will be the final word. People have saved screen shots of past years, so they will be able to show how much they got moved in.
Who would have thunk that the real doping story of this years Ironman would be the swim course!!!
Wasn't the 'doping' story last year from the swim too?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [GreatScott]
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I followed, but didn't follow that thread. I did see that thread. But, no one really seemed to say definitively that the Kona swim would be shorter.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [zamm0]
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zamm0 wrote:
all these really aero frames....and then they stick their heads up like periscopesthis... aero this aero that but the head still sticking out!
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Slowman]
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jordan swam 52:34. let's say that swim is 1:30 fast. still, 54-flat on a normal day is a great swim for jordan. more importantly he came out of the water with jesse thomas, which i doubt jordan has ever done, and kienle.
but the real race for him starts now because arnouts, weiss, skipper all took 1:30 out of him to ride up to him (and kienle and thomas). what's the over/under on how long it takes that group to catch the front group? and who among those 7 is going to stick through 100 miles?
Ya 4;30 off the lead group or so is about average for him, but like you said, he came out with better riders. Just hope he throws out his power meter and just races with them. Not sure though about them catching quickly, lot of horsepower in the lead group too. Good thing is everyone has a shot at glory today, can't really blame early position as a big factor, as everyone is set very well right now.
And yes, the 100 mile mark is going to be very telling on the rest of the day, I figure the usual suspects with a couple outsiders mixed int there.
but the real race for him starts now because arnouts, weiss, skipper all took 1:30 out of him to ride up to him (and kienle and thomas). what's the over/under on how long it takes that group to catch the front group? and who among those 7 is going to stick through 100 miles?
Ya 4;30 off the lead group or so is about average for him, but like you said, he came out with better riders. Just hope he throws out his power meter and just races with them. Not sure though about them catching quickly, lot of horsepower in the lead group too. Good thing is everyone has a shot at glory today, can't really blame early position as a big factor, as everyone is set very well right now.
And yes, the 100 mile mark is going to be very telling on the rest of the day, I figure the usual suspects with a couple outsiders mixed int there.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
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The second group is within striking distance now to the first group
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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Raelerts open suit flapping away. Must be hot out there
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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Wouldn't it be nice if they kept the Best Bike Split guy on the mic and sent Welchie away?
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [GreatScott]
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GreatScott wrote:
Interesting (and good) to see LS sitting in the chase group and not just blowing through solo.Sanders needs to close the gap to the Kienle train soon. He sat in that 3rd group for a while but didn't appear to close the gap much. That swim just destroyed his chances. It will be very difficult to pick up the pieces.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [badgertri]
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Looks like Sanders is dropping his group and making his move. Pretty much now or never.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
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One big group now on the road with a few stragglers off the back.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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I would love for Sanders to bridge up to Rapp and they can push the pace a bit more.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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flyingirish wrote:
Looks like Sanders is dropping his group and making his move. Pretty much now or never.Looks to be closing the gap now. He's very fortunate that the field doesn't have many gaps once he bridges up.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [badgertri]
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He's about 1/3 of a mile back from a quick estimate on the map
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [BMANX]
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coverage says kienle/weiss within a minute of the lead group. it would be nice if jordan's still with them. failing that, hopefully with some of what was that group of 7 or 8.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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What's with lots of pro men losing their GPS chips? What do they look like?
Swim - ( x ) All good ( ) In the shop
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Slowman]
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According GPS he's right there
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [GrahamK]
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ironman.com wrote:
Wow, we've just had 4 men pull into the penalty tent. Van Lierde, McMahon, Raelert & Lange have all stopped to serve their penalties.I'm surprised it was just 4
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [badgertri]
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The Colonel is clawing his way back - never been so exciting to watch a black dot with a number 7 on it move along a highway.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [GrahamK]
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is there a better site than just the quarq with the dots on the road? is there anything with a table showing splits? the quarq/beacon one isnt bad, but the lead and chase group are so bunched up you can hardly tell who is in the groups.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Tri-Banter]
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I'm surprised it was just 4
Why, you on a Moto out there? From my armchair here it looks like they are mostly riding very clean. 4 is quite a few this early, and will set a tone for everyone else's gaps. And I bet most are accidental encroachment and not passing, dont see anyone blatantly trying to push the limits.
Why, you on a Moto out there? From my armchair here it looks like they are mostly riding very clean. 4 is quite a few this early, and will set a tone for everyone else's gaps. And I bet most are accidental encroachment and not passing, dont see anyone blatantly trying to push the limits.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Team_Doc28]
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You can zoom in and out on the map to see indivduals
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [seriousfun]
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seriousfun wrote:
The Colonel is clawing his way back - never been so exciting to watch a black dot with a number 7 on it move along a highway.It will be interesting to see if Raelert, Sanders, Van Lierde, and McMahon will work together to pick through the field. That penalty may have benefited Sanders greatly.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [seriousfun]
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As Raelert and the others who served penalties move up the field he'll be able to latch onto them and move up to the main field
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
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Mostly because we've had 20 guys riding within 30 seconds, front to back, for the entire race. It seems pretty easy to get into a draft zone and not make a pass in that athlete density.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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Seems like the riders positions are updating in groups making it hard to actually see where they are on the map. Trying to figure out where Jesse Thomas actually is... think he's a few riders behind Kienle... but cant tell
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [anyone]
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this thread is always one of the best of the year. there's watching a movie, and then there's watching MST3K.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [badgertri]
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It definitely does put some strong boys a bit further back in the pack. Now let's see if they can work together.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [seriousfun]
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The Colonel is clawing his way back - never been so exciting to watch a black dot with a number 7 on it move along a highway.
I so agree but hillarious. Go lionel this will be a very different race if he is in the group climbing up to Hawi.
So bent McMahon got a penalty I guess dev called it.
I so agree but hillarious. Go lionel this will be a very different race if he is in the group climbing up to Hawi.
So bent McMahon got a penalty I guess dev called it.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [dyarab]
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He's the next rider ahead of Kienle. Rapp is a few seconds back from there
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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rapp got dropped from his pack :/
jesse riding pretty good!
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jesse riding pretty good!
The entire event (IM) is like "death by 1000 cuts" and the best race is minimizing all those cuts and losing less blood than the other guy. - Dev
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [dsmallwood]
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This and twitter is all I have Live stream is not working for me
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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Can you look at just the pros? Looks like you can checkout individual age groups (I assume not every AGer has the tracker, just the people who rented it) , but can't look at just pros. Not so much an issue now but will be once they reach Hawi and you won't know who is coming and going. I remember last being a lot more user friendly
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Tri-Banter]
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Mostly because we've had 20 guys riding within 30 seconds, front to back//
Ya looking at times and gaps, 1+ seconds is the lower limit, not sure of the tenths. So easy for someone to get caught out not paying attention, then not passing when they encroach. Like I said, you will see bigger gaps given by the guys now that they have seen some go to the tents. About as fair a race as one could hope for, hope Lionel will be ok with it after..(-;
Ya looking at times and gaps, 1+ seconds is the lower limit, not sure of the tenths. So easy for someone to get caught out not paying attention, then not passing when they encroach. Like I said, you will see bigger gaps given by the guys now that they have seen some go to the tents. About as fair a race as one could hope for, hope Lionel will be ok with it after..(-;
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [thisgirl]
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Nazgul350r]
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is there a link to track female pros?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [LuisDF]
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I would be hesitant on that. his dot hasn't updated in a while
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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"According GPS he's right there"
it's maddening, because i see him well behind, but then the feed says "2min ago" when others well ahead have a spot located "a few seconds ago." i hope he's right there. i'll defer to your judgment, as i like your judgment better.
i think that means, then, they're just about to nab the back of the front pack.
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it's maddening, because i see him well behind, but then the feed says "2min ago" when others well ahead have a spot located "a few seconds ago." i hope he's right there. i'll defer to your judgment, as i like your judgment better.
i think that means, then, they're just about to nab the back of the front pack.
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aka Slowman
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [shelgemo]
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [dyarab]
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Seems like the riders positions are updating in groups making it hard to actually see where they are on the map. Trying to figure out where Jesse Thomas actually is... think he's a few riders behind Kienle... but cant tell
Click on the dot and it tells you how old the update is. Some dots are minutes old and others are seconds old.
Click on the dot and it tells you how old the update is. Some dots are minutes old and others are seconds old.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Slowman]
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Ya, his GPS is taking a bit to update unlike others. Sander's GPS did the same thing earlier in the bike for 10+ minutes.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [CementBottle]
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Sanders just caught Kienle . . . this is getting fun.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [CementBottle]
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I was thinking the same thing when I heard about the penalty.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [shelgemo]
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [thisgirl]
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there's no data on that page
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
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i think frodeno is struggling.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [CementBottle]
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Yeah I know... but it's frustrating trying to figure out there actual position relative to one another.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [BMANX]
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Sanders is killing the ride. I hope he can still run.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Slowman]
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Sanders for the win. Goes big up and down to hawi. …..wind
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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A lot of the GPS's are having a tough time updating. Some 10+ behind their update
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [BMANX]
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Unless I am misreading, the twitter feed on the right of the live feed says Sanders is only 1 minute back of the leaders?! How did he make up so much time so quick?? Mistake?
At about 60km, Michael Weiss and Lionel Sanders are now 1:11 back from the leader. They will soon be on the back of the lead group. They are followed by James Cunnama. Kienle has dropped back a bit and is riding with Chevrot and Kramer.
At about 60km, Michael Weiss and Lionel Sanders are now 1:11 back from the leader. They will soon be on the back of the lead group. They are followed by James Cunnama. Kienle has dropped back a bit and is riding with Chevrot and Kramer.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [SBRcoffee]
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Nope, thats accurate. once he decided to drop his group he really gained on the leaders.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [SBRcoffee]
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if he's caught kienle then, yeah, probably 1min down.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [SBRcoffee]
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Sebastian has broken into the lead group, in 18th at the 43 mile mark and 20 sec down to the lead
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Slowman]
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So after his blog posts, will be interesting to see if he 'settles in' to the lead group, or if he takes off. Would love to see him win!!!!
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [SBRcoffee]
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The GPS is behind it is looking like he is 4 minutes back.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Slowman]
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J. thomas just outside of the top 20 and looking like he's riding well with Kienle a few riders in front of him. Hope JT can hang on to hi and still have a good run.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Tri-Banter]
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how is freddy van lierde sitting in 3rd place if he served a penalty in waikoloa, as reported? did he not serve a penalty? i'm beyond certain he didn't make up 5min from wiakoloa to kawaihae.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [seriousfun]
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Wish I could watch the race through a go pro on the front of Sanders bike...
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [SBRcoffee]
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.....but he can't swim
Mic drop.
Mic drop.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Slowman]
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Data delay?
The live blogger just posted this:
Take a short break from ST and read my blog:
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The live blogger just posted this:
Quote:
After serving their penalties, Van Lierde & McMahon have been joined by Sanders at the bottom of the climb to Hawi.Take a short break from ST and read my blog:
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [SBRcoffee]
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If andrew messick reads this, "how much would it cost to have streaming intervals for all the athletes at the bottom of the feed."
That is all that is needed. The coverage is so much better than a few years ago.
There are a lot more commercials so they are doing much better monetizing the broadcast.
That is all that is needed. The coverage is so much better than a few years ago.
There are a lot more commercials so they are doing much better monetizing the broadcast.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [SBRcoffee]
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He's definitely in the game.
At about 60km, Michael Weiss and Lionel Sanders are now 1:11 back from the leader. They will soon be on the back of the lead group. They are followed by James Cunnama. Kienle has dropped back a bit and is riding with Chevrot and Kramer.
SBRcoffee wrote:
Unless I am misreading, the twitter feed on the right of the live feed says Sanders is only 1 minute back of the leaders?! How did he make up so much time so quick?? Mistake? At about 60km, Michael Weiss and Lionel Sanders are now 1:11 back from the leader. They will soon be on the back of the lead group. They are followed by James Cunnama. Kienle has dropped back a bit and is riding with Chevrot and Kramer.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Tri-Banter]
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i'm having a hard time following these guys on the TV. they're showing raelert on the bike, telling us he's at/near the front, but didn't he serve a penalty too? are they just stand-downs? or serving the full penalty?
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Slowman]
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Twitter feed is posting standings at various mile markers. Much more helpful to see who is where.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Slowman]
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Slowman wrote:
i'm having a hard time following these guys on the TV. they're showing raelert on the bike, telling us he's at/near the front, but didn't he serve a penalty too? are they just stand-downs? or serving the full penalty?It's nice to see you actively joining in the 'tv coverage needs work' crowd
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Slowman]
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There's a FB live video from the penalty tent. I saw FVL, McMahon and Lange there.
https://www.facebook.com/lifetimetri/videos/1222206737802587/
https://www.facebook.com/lifetimetri/videos/1222206737802587/
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [SBRcoffee]
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Lionel needs to sit in for a while to cool the jets from catching up to the group
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Cup]
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Yeah, in year's past they would regularly post the leaderboards, but that seems to be missing this year.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Tri-Banter]
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Tri-Banter wrote:
Slowman wrote:
i'm having a hard time following these guys on the TV. they're showing raelert on the bike, telling us he's at/near the front, but didn't he serve a penalty too? are they just stand-downs? or serving the full penalty?It's nice to see you actively joining in the 'tv coverage needs work' crowd
Yeah... a lot of work
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Tri-Banter]
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Tri-Banter wrote:
Slowman wrote:
i'm having a hard time following these guys on the TV. they're showing raelert on the bike, telling us he's at/near the front, but didn't he serve a penalty too? are they just stand-downs? or serving the full penalty?It's nice to see you actively joining in the 'tv coverage needs work' crowd
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [dyarab]
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The athlete tracker shows Sanders is 4 minutes back around the 42 mile mark of the bike......not sure what the hell they are reporting off of for the twitter feed...
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Slowman]
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [SBRcoffee]
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On the GPS they have him right there.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sp1ke]
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Sanders was still 4 minutes back at the timing spot a mile past Kawaihae, but he rode the last segment as fast as Kienle, Weiss, etc, who had joined the lead pack.
I rode to Waikoloa yesterday at 8-ish (race time there) and it was a ripping cross-headwind. I was 25 km/h downhill and 45 uphill the other way back towards town. I was hoping it would be the same today and would bust up the peloton, or at least soften them up.
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I rode to Waikoloa yesterday at 8-ish (race time there) and it was a ripping cross-headwind. I was 25 km/h downhill and 45 uphill the other way back towards town. I was hoping it would be the same today and would bust up the peloton, or at least soften them up.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Slowman]
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Just reported that Rapp is 3 minutes down from the lead
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [SBRcoffee]
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SBRcoffee wrote:
The athlete tracker shows Sanders is 4 minutes back around the 42 mile mark of the bike......not sure what the hell they are reporting off of for the twitter feed...I don't think the trackers are as accurate today. Some seem to be updating less often than others.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [SBRcoffee]
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SBRcoffee wrote:
The athlete tracker shows Sanders is 4 minutes back around the 42 mile mark of the bike......not sure what the hell they are reporting off of for the twitter feed...Sylvan Smyth | http://www.sportstats.asia | sylvan@sportstats.asia | Starvas
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Tri-Banter]
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"It's nice to see you actively joining in the 'tv coverage needs work' crowd"
you know, monty and i used to do a lot of live coverage, reporting it here on slowtwitch. including in the old old days this particular race. we moved in on the race hard. grabbed it by the p***y. you absolutely knew who was on first and on second. terrible they can't do that with this race.
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you know, monty and i used to do a lot of live coverage, reporting it here on slowtwitch. including in the old old days this particular race. we moved in on the race hard. grabbed it by the p***y. you absolutely knew who was on first and on second. terrible they can't do that with this race.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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They just reported 4:11 down for Sanders, Jesse is in the lead. Sanders will probably catch them......how will he run though...
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sylvan]
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Slowman]
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I was thinking about this early this morning before the feed started since I knew the quality of the coverage would be brought up. I think it some part it comes down to that its former athletes without formal broadcast training but most importantly I think is that IM sees the live feed as more of a feed for all and so they cater more to beginners/family who may not fully understand the sport and what's going on so its dumbed down. I think that approach is wrong. They should view their audience as veteran triathletes and focus on the things that they would be interested which is positioning and tactics and such.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [schroeder]
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Link to the tracker page?
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [SBRcoffee]
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Leader is 3 1/2 minutes slower at Kawaihae than last year.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Slowman]
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While they were busy blah / blah / blahing, they completely missed the catch by the
Weiss / Kienle / Thomas group.
Greg just noticed that Weiss is in the lead and pushing forward.
http://www.austinTRIcyclist.com
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Weiss / Kienle / Thomas group.
Greg just noticed that Weiss is in the lead and pushing forward.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [XavierM]
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [XavierM]
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That is excellent, thanks
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sylvan]
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One of our timing wires was peeking out from under a rubber mat exiting T1. Someone saw it and sliced it in half! Not sure of the mindset at work there. That's why we use multiple lines at the important spots like that.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sylvan]
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First rider at Hawi was 9:42:30 last year so still maybe 10 miutes out.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [shamrocks]
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ironman.com wrote:
Kienle is now into 4th place, just 21 seconds behind Weiss. The action is happening fast and furious on the climb to Hawi.It looks like Sebi is moving up to follow the tail of Weiss
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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"Just reported that Rapp is 3 minutes down from the lead"
where are you getting this?
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where are you getting this?
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sylvan]
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No one mentions McKenzie. He is up there I believe. Is it because his run is no longer competitive?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Slowman]
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Welchie quickly mentioned it in passing about 10 minutes ago.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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Live coverage just said LS is still over 4 minutes down
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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This production team and the announcers have been together for a while. That's why it's always disappointing with the fact that they don't use professional broadcasters and instead hang on to house loyalists like Welch and M. Lieto. I think they work cheap, and WTC doesn't want to spend the $ on something that doesn't add to their bottom line. There is no shortage of talent at places like NBCSN or ESPN they could outsource this to and improve the production qualities of the stream, but I think WTC does not see any benefit to them.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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Man... if Rinny can keep managing the gap to Ryf as well as she is... she's will more than likely take it.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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"Welchie quickly mentioned it in passing about 10 minutes ago."
ah. well. i was kind of hoping for something more, er, data-driven.
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ah. well. i was kind of hoping for something more, er, data-driven.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Runningwithbees]
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Slowman was asking about Rapp...
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Runningwithbees]
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Runningwithbees wrote:
Live coverage just said LS is still over 4 minutes down
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [ElGordo]
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I disagree. I don't think throwing known sports personalities would improve it when they have zero knowledge base about the sport itself.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [SBRcoffee]
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It looks like lionel is about 3 minutes down really having a great ride.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [ElGordo]
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ElGordo wrote:
This production team and the announcers have been together for a while. That's why it's always disappointing with the fact that they don't use professional broadcasters and instead hang on to house loyalists like Welch and M. Lieto. I think they work cheap, and WTC doesn't want to spend the $ on something that doesn't add to their bottom line. There is no shortage of talent at places like NBCSN or ESPN they could outsource this to and improve the production qualities of the stream, but I think WTC does not see any benefit to them.If we got professional broadcasters, we would complaining about them not knowing anything about triathlon. Bob Costas doesn't know diddly squat about our sport.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Slowman]
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Ya, who knows how accurate he is but I'll go with it for now.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [dyarab]
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Rinny is starting to lose time at roughly a pace of 1 minute per 10k of riding. She was holding steady at 4 minutes down on Ryf. Now, she's 6:30+
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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They are in the part of the course where the GPS trackers won't be updating all that well. Won't be for a while yet before they get back online and giving more accurate live updates.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [CementBottle]
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CementBottle wrote:
There are a lot more commercials so they are doing much better monetizing the broadcast.I have been on for 6 minutes now and still have been presented nothing but commercials. I'm out. See you later. I'll watch it on NBC in December when I can fast forward the commercials. Adios.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [dyarab]
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Man... if Rinny can keep managing the gap to Ryf as well as she is... she's will more than likely take it. //
Well if you can believe Welchie's math, she is losing a minute per 10 miles. So yes at that pace it would be interesting at her 6;30 down right now. She would have to have one of her best runs for sure, can't hope that Ryf and others are all going to blow. in fact, expect Ryf to run low 3 hours or right at this year..At any rate no one will have it in the bag til the very end!!
Well if you can believe Welchie's math, she is losing a minute per 10 miles. So yes at that pace it would be interesting at her 6;30 down right now. She would have to have one of her best runs for sure, can't hope that Ryf and others are all going to blow. in fact, expect Ryf to run low 3 hours or right at this year..At any rate no one will have it in the bag til the very end!!
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [kny]
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lol, bad timing on your part, they just said they were taking a break for a while
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Tri-Banter]
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Yeah I just realized that. :/ Hopefully she can't keep it there... did she lose time on the climb? or Somewhere else?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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was just replying to the thread in general... apologies.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Tri-Banter]
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If Carfrae, Lehtonen & Hauschildt come off bike together within 10mins of the front....it'll get really really interesting.....
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Runningwithbees]
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That's where professional production comes in: use people like Welch (or any other insider) to add insight; someone who can tell the narrative of the day professionally leads the cast. Does anyone here not think Phil Liggett (for only one example) would do a better PxP than Welch? Welch knows tri, but he's not a broadcaster and after X tries at this it's obvious he is either not capable or not interested in improving at it.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [ElGordo]
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ElGordo wrote:
That's where professional production comes in: use people like Welch (or any other insider) to add insight; someone who can tell the narrative of the day professionally leads the cast. Does anyone here not think Phil Liggett (for only one example) would do a better PxP than Welch? Welch knows tri, but he's not a broadcaster and after X tries at this it's obvious he is either not capable or not interested in improving at it.Ah, no, Liggett is past his prime and does a horrible job. Makes a ton of mistakes when calling races over the past several years.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [tilburs]
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What's her face earlier said that the running delta between Ryf and Rinny is about 10 minutes. Therefore, I'd agree with your interesting comment. However, I'd bet that Ryf will be more than 10 min up on Mirinda.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [ElGordo]
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Yeah, adding Liggett will help.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Runningwithbees]
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Sanders just made the turn
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [tilburs]
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Dan, why is ST's twitter feed not giving us updates throughout this race? Just curious.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Runningwithbees]
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I apologize in advance if this is inappropriate in this thread. Some of you picked Dan Stubleski to win his age group. He took one of the Quarq Qollectors in our free trial. http://quarqrace.com/race/698
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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flyingirish wrote:
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [mjpwooo]
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"Dan, why is ST's twitter feed not giving us updates throughout this race? Just curious."
you're asking the wrong guy. i'll ask jordan at the next aid station ;-)
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you're asking the wrong guy. i'll ask jordan at the next aid station ;-)
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [troy@quarq]
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looks like weiss is gapping the front- see german feed
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [mjpwooo]
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Sebi could fight Stallone in a sequel, say the words, "I must break you" and leave everyone believing that Rocky was going down
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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Anyone else notice when they are showing Frodeno he seems to be out of the aero bars a lot...
Is it just happenstance for when they're showing him or is something maybe wrong? Back issues etc?
Is it just happenstance for when they're showing him or is something maybe wrong? Back issues etc?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [bujayman]
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bujayman wrote:
Anyone else notice when they are showing Frodeno he seems to be out of the aero bars a lot... Is it just happenstance for when they're showing him or is something maybe wrong? Back issues etc?
I think he's just sitting up to stay legal distance from the person in front of hm.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [shelgemo]
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That bike just looks so odd and it also looks like he is fighting the cross-winds a lot due to the side-profile of the bike
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [shelgemo]
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Wonder how much DB is putting on the line for Weiss to lead the bike / set the fastest bike split.....
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [CementBottle]
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Seems like wind picked up quite a bit over the morning. A few age groupers faster than Jesse and lionel through the 19 mile split.
As for Lionel I think we'll see him gain even more up the Hawi climb
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [bujayman]
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Diamondback getting their money out of Weiss today.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Slowman]
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Rapp made the turn according to GPS about 2 minutes ago
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [mjpwooo]
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [troy@quarq]
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troy@quarq wrote:
I apologize in advance if this is inappropriate in this thread. Some of you picked Dan Stubleski to win his age group. He took one of the Quarq Qollectors in our free trial. http://quarqrace.com/race/698 Troy@Quarq
been following him and Heath Dotson on your site. Thanks.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [stevej]
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stevej wrote:
Lionel is 3:01 down at the turn around.Does he have his trusty camelback?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Power13]
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Power13 wrote:
Yeah, adding Liggett will help. /pink
The guy who probably could improve things is Matt Keenan, Aussie commentator who anchors most of the TV cycling coverage + does some ITU, Ironman & MTB work as well. He's not the expert that Mighty Mouse is but he has an eye for detail and stays close to social media, even during events. He really knows cycling but covers tri pretty well.
But honestly, I'm just glad to watch it at all. I can remember when I had to wait to read about it in a paper, days later and even then, just a summary.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Culley22]
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Sanders was 8 minutes down out of the swim. Announcer just said he is 3 minutes down now, making up 5 minutes in 60 miles on the bike.
The stache watch is on!
The stache watch is on!
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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flyingirish wrote:
That bike just looks so odd and it also looks like he is fighting the cross-winds a lot due to the side-profile of the bike
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [timbasile]
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Does he have his trusty camelback?
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According to his Cupcakes interview, it wasn't a camelback but he forgot to drop off his dry clothes bag. His solution was just to tuck it into his kit so he wouldn't lose his stuff.
Take a short break from ST and read my blog:
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According to his Cupcakes interview, it wasn't a camelback but he forgot to drop off his dry clothes bag. His solution was just to tuck it into his kit so he wouldn't lose his stuff.
Take a short break from ST and read my blog:
http://tri-banter.blogspot.com/
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [GreatScott]
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I wonder how many times he's used those disc brakes ;)
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [troy@quarq]
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Thanks. Looks like he's slamming this bike course!
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Benv]
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Culley22]
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How much Money is Weiss getting from Diamondback for being FOTB. I expect him to fade by the 10k mark on the run. Won't crack the top 15.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [ffips]
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What?! They are all riding legally...
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Culley22]
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TOP 10 Pro Men - Thru Bike Split 7 - Hawi Turn - 59.27 mi
1 3:21:07 Sebastian Kienle
2 3:21:08 0:02 Andi Boecherer
3 3:21:09 0:03 Michael Weiss
4 3:21:11 0:05 Tim O'Donnell
5 3:21:13 0:07 Luke McKenzie
6 3:21:15 0:09 Andy Potts
7 3:21:18 0:12 Jan Frodeno
8 3:21:21 0:15 Ben Hoffman
9 3:21:24 0:18 Timothy Van Berkel
10 3:21:26 0:20 Boris Stein
11 3:21:29 0:22 Eneko Llanos
12 3:21:30 0:24 Igor Amorelli
13 3:21:49 0:43 Terenzo Bozzone
14 3:21:51 0:45 Marko Albert
15 3:21:55 0:48 Tim Don
16 3:22:04 0:58 Jesse Thomas
17 3:22:17 1:11 David Plese
18 3:23:08 2:02 Ivan Rana
19 3:23:10 2:04 David Dellow
20 3:23:30 2:24 Ruedi Wild
21 3:23:32 2:26 David McNamee
22 3:23:39 2:32 Christian Kramer
23 3:24:00 2:54 Bart Aernouts
24 3:24:04 2:58 Kyle Buckingham
25 3:24:07 3:01 Lionel Sanders
26 3:24:24 3:18 Tyler Butterfield
27 3:24:55 3:49 Denis Chevrot
28 3:25:18 4:11 Ronnie Schildknecht
29 3:25:19 4:13 Frederik Van Lierde
30 3:25:25 4:19 Matt Russell
Train to race. Race to win.
1 3:21:07 Sebastian Kienle
2 3:21:08 0:02 Andi Boecherer
3 3:21:09 0:03 Michael Weiss
4 3:21:11 0:05 Tim O'Donnell
5 3:21:13 0:07 Luke McKenzie
6 3:21:15 0:09 Andy Potts
7 3:21:18 0:12 Jan Frodeno
8 3:21:21 0:15 Ben Hoffman
9 3:21:24 0:18 Timothy Van Berkel
10 3:21:26 0:20 Boris Stein
11 3:21:29 0:22 Eneko Llanos
12 3:21:30 0:24 Igor Amorelli
13 3:21:49 0:43 Terenzo Bozzone
14 3:21:51 0:45 Marko Albert
15 3:21:55 0:48 Tim Don
16 3:22:04 0:58 Jesse Thomas
17 3:22:17 1:11 David Plese
18 3:23:08 2:02 Ivan Rana
19 3:23:10 2:04 David Dellow
20 3:23:30 2:24 Ruedi Wild
21 3:23:32 2:26 David McNamee
22 3:23:39 2:32 Christian Kramer
23 3:24:00 2:54 Bart Aernouts
24 3:24:04 2:58 Kyle Buckingham
25 3:24:07 3:01 Lionel Sanders
26 3:24:24 3:18 Tyler Butterfield
27 3:24:55 3:49 Denis Chevrot
28 3:25:18 4:11 Ronnie Schildknecht
29 3:25:19 4:13 Frederik Van Lierde
30 3:25:25 4:19 Matt Russell
Train to race. Race to win.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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TO passes Weiss for lead
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [ffips]
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it's just a funny camera angle :-)
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [troy@quarq]
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troy@quarq wrote:
I apologize in advance if this is inappropriate in this thread. Some of you picked Dan Stubleski to win his age group. He took one of the Quarq Qollectors in our free trial. http://quarqrace.com/race/698 Troy@Quarq
Love your tracker site. Would love to see ironman adopt this officially
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Benv]
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Benv wrote:
flyingirish wrote:
That bike just looks so odd and it also looks like he is fighting the cross-winds a lot due to the side-profile of the bikeNot that I'm an expert, but I distrust that small flare back into the front wheel - which is the part that Cervelo didn't include. It seems unnecessary.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [stevej]
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Let's hope... Every year I keep hoping it will finally be the year when we get the admitted cheaters out of our sport.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sp1ke]
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Must be a fish-eye lens... see's all.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [stevej]
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Tim looks strong, but doing the typewriter on his saddle. Those pro fits are great until you get 70 miles into the ironman!! Remember this is how Floyd used to ride, slide slide slide, push and repeat.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Power13]
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That DB just looks "different"!
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [robgray]
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robgray wrote:
troy@quarq wrote:
I apologize in advance if this is inappropriate in this thread. Some of you picked Dan Stubleski to win his age group. He took one of the Quarq Qollectors in our free trial. http://quarqrace.com/race/698 Troy@Quarq
Love your tracker site. Would love to see ironman adopt this officially
I agree. The Beacon site is crap... some athletes havent updated in an hour
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [BMANX]
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BMANX wrote:
That DB just looks "different"!The more they show it the less i like it
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [ffips]
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How embarrassing for all those caught in those pics.
Swim - ( x ) All good ( ) In the shop
Bike - ( x ) All good ( ) In the shop
Run - ( ) All good ( x ) In the shop
Swim - ( x ) All good ( ) In the shop
Bike - ( x ) All good ( ) In the shop
Run - ( ) All good ( x ) In the shop
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Slowman]
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Slowman wrote:
"Dan, why is ST's twitter feed not giving us updates throughout this race? Just curious." you're asking the wrong guy. i'll ask jordan at the next aid station ;-)
please make a note to self...get someone other than Jordan to handle ST twitter feed on Kona day. :-)
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [dyarab]
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Looking at the live feed at the traffic coming the other way it looks like a damn groupride sometimes. Wtf.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sp1ke]
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it's just a funny camera angle :-) //
No they are all just in the act of passing, you can't tell from a static photo. Lets see where they all are in 20 seconds when they have all made their pass..
No they are all just in the act of passing, you can't tell from a static photo. Lets see where they all are in 20 seconds when they have all made their pass..
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [dyarab]
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agreed
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
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Tim O donell was in lead for 30 seconds and the Trek Twitter jumped on it. All the bike companies want some publicity, dont blame them.
Trek Bicycle Retweeted
Timothy O'Donnell ‏@TOinTRI 4m4 minutes agoKailua, HI
New leader!! @TOinTRI has just taken over the lead on the bike. @TrekBikes guys pushing the pace. #IMKona
Trek Bicycle Retweeted
Timothy O'Donnell ‏@TOinTRI 4m4 minutes agoKailua, HI New leader!! @TOinTRI has just taken over the lead on the bike. @TrekBikes guys pushing the pace. #IMKona
monty wrote:
Tim looks strong, but doing the typewriter on his saddle. Those pro fits are great until you get 70 miles into the ironman!! Remember this is how Floyd used to ride, slide slide slide, push and repeat.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Slowman]
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Watching the live feed on the web. Camera is in front of M. Weiss and in the background is a pretty amazing (long, large) group of athletes going the other way in a monster bunch. There are other camera motos in the bk who have to slow, come back over the double yellow line to avoid the - sometimes three abreast - packs. Wow!
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [stevej]
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stevej wrote:
How much Money is Weiss getting from Diamondback for being FOTB. I expect him to fade by the 10k mark on the run. Won't crack the top 15.Not seeing many p5x !!!!
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
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This was completely unpredictable. I am shocked that this happened
Hows it possible that all the fastest AG'ers in the world set off at the same time and end up in a pack...
Cometely unforseeable........
Hows it possible that all the fastest AG'ers in the world set off at the same time and end up in a pack...
Cometely unforseeable........
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
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WTF is with the constant repetition of Gatorade Endurance Formula.
"Special Needs Matt"
"Special Needs Matt"
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [dyarab]
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There is a definite section without service around Hawi, but Qollector should work well elsewhere. We're fortunate to have several years' testing in Hawaii now. Thanks for the compliments on the system. The team in Spearfish have worked hard for two years to get it to where it is.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [ianpeace]
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Yeah I really don't want to see the lead moto take out a pack of AGers.
I wonder if the pros look across at the pack of 20-30 that went past and think "those bastards can draft, why can't I?!"
I wonder if the pros look across at the pack of 20-30 that went past and think "those bastards can draft, why can't I?!"
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [ffips]
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [ffips]
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Matt "Fer Sherr" Lieto
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Tri-Banter]
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Hahaha!
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [ElGordo]
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [ianpeace]
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Lionel going a bit backwards since the downhill, lost a few seconds to the leaders rather than the big chunks he was gaining up til then. Not surprised, he needs pressure on the pedals to make up ground, and riding downhill is a whole different animal. Maybe if he had a 60/10 gear!!
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [frenchieTT]
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Nobody that rides the P5X is a front of the pack rider in a race list this.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
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Did you see the age group pelotons on the live feed?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [BMANX]
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BMANX wrote:
Nobody that rides the P5X is a front of the pack rider in a race list this.What about FVL? You know the 2013 World Champion.
He did get a penalty so he's obviously not going to be in the front right now.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [BMANX]
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Anyone know what's going on with Rapp? Isn't listed in top 30 on the bike...
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [frenchieTT]
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Rinnie almost 10min down on ryf.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [frenchieTT]
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They just said that Rinny is 9-10 minutes back. She might struggle to even make the podium this year. Ryf currently in control of this race.
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http://tri-banter.blogspot.com/
Take a short break from ST and read my blog:
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [njosey17]
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Got passed by Sanders and could not hang.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [frenchieTT]
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [frenchieTT]
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frenchieTT wrote:
Did you see the age group pelotons on the live feed?Camera tries to show the rear wheel of the 2nd place woman and all the pickup trucks
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [stevej]
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stevej wrote:
ElGordo wrote:
Matt "Fer Sherr" LietoHAHAHA I just laughed so hard....
Dammit now that's all I hear...
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [njosey17]
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His GPS tracker is stuck about a mile or two outside of the turnaround. His tracker has been having problems for a while now. A random guess but I bet he's around 4-5 minutes back
Train to race. Race to win.
Train to race. Race to win.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [njosey17]
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njosey17 wrote:
Anyone know what's going on with Rapp? Isn't listed in top 30 on the bike...This is normal for him at Kona.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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the german feed has a good view of the top 15 pros all lined up on the road anyone's race at this point
Train to race. Race to win.
Train to race. Race to win.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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Rinny has a long way to come back from on the run
More women through 60 miles:
1 3:40:19 Daniela Ryf
2 3:40:21 0:02 Anja Beranek
3 3:43:19 3:00 Mary Beth Ellis
4 3:43:22 3:04 Meredith Kessler
5 3:43:27 3:09 Jodie Swallow
6 3:43:29 3:10 Michelle Vesterby
7 3:43:31 3:13 Annabel Luxford
8 3:44:16 3:57 Alicia Kaye
9 3:47:49 7:31 Camilla Pedersen
10 3:48:36 8:18 Heather Jackson
11 3:48:40 8:22 Yvonne Van Vlerken
12 3:48:49 8:31 Melissa Hauschildt
13 3:49:22 9:03 Kaisa Lehtonen
14 3:49:47 9:28 Carrie Lester
15 3:49:49 9:31 Leanda Cave
16 3:49:54 9:35 Mirinda Carfrae
17 3:50:41 10:22 Tine Deckers
18 3:51:02 10:43 Heather Wurtele
19 3:52:47 12:29 Julia Gajer
20 3:53:21 13:03 Lucy Gossage
Train to race. Race to win.
More women through 60 miles:
1 3:40:19 Daniela Ryf
2 3:40:21 0:02 Anja Beranek
3 3:43:19 3:00 Mary Beth Ellis
4 3:43:22 3:04 Meredith Kessler
5 3:43:27 3:09 Jodie Swallow
6 3:43:29 3:10 Michelle Vesterby
7 3:43:31 3:13 Annabel Luxford
8 3:44:16 3:57 Alicia Kaye
9 3:47:49 7:31 Camilla Pedersen
10 3:48:36 8:18 Heather Jackson
11 3:48:40 8:22 Yvonne Van Vlerken
12 3:48:49 8:31 Melissa Hauschildt
13 3:49:22 9:03 Kaisa Lehtonen
14 3:49:47 9:28 Carrie Lester
15 3:49:49 9:31 Leanda Cave
16 3:49:54 9:35 Mirinda Carfrae
17 3:50:41 10:22 Tine Deckers
18 3:51:02 10:43 Heather Wurtele
19 3:52:47 12:29 Julia Gajer
20 3:53:21 13:03 Lucy Gossage
Train to race. Race to win.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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That train broke up pretty quick. Thomas dropped back to 2:57 back. Sanders is 3 secs behind him.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Cup]
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I am sure once the leaders saw the line forming up behind them at the turnaround they decided to put the hammer down to break it up a tad
Train to race. Race to win.
Train to race. Race to win.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Cup]
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Cup wrote:
That train broke up pretty quick. Thomas dropped back to 2:57 back. Sanders is 3 secs behind him.Thomas may have dropped back but the train is still huge.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Cup]
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Sanders will crack the top 10 by T2 and by half way into the marathon will be in 4th.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [stevej]
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stevej wrote:
Cup wrote:
That train broke up pretty quick. Thomas dropped back to 2:57 back. Sanders is 3 secs behind him.Thomas may have dropped back but the train is still huge.
Yeah. Looks like 11 still there.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [njosey17]
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"Anyone know what's going on with Rapp? Isn't listed in top 30 on the bike"
his race was strong through about 40 or 50 miles. he's been fading a bit since then.
Dan Empfield
aka Slowman
his race was strong through about 40 or 50 miles. he's been fading a bit since then.
Dan Empfield
aka Slowman
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Cup]
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Cup wrote:
stevej wrote:
Cup wrote:
That train broke up pretty quick. Thomas dropped back to 2:57 back. Sanders is 3 secs behind him.Thomas may have dropped back but the train is still huge.
Yeah. Looks like 11 still there.
how many ahead of thomas are betters runners?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [gahddenbooi]
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gahddenbooi wrote:
stevej wrote:
ElGordo wrote:
Matt "Fer Sherr" LietoHAHAHA I just laughed so hard....
Dammit now that's all I hear...
That's all I've heard out of him for years now.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Cup]
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I'm glad to see Potts hanging in there (currently sitting 6th at +0:12). Would love to see him on the front. It'll be tough with the other names in that group though.
Take a short break from ST and read my blog:
http://tri-banter.blogspot.com/
Take a short break from ST and read my blog:
http://tri-banter.blogspot.com/
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [dyarab]
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May not be better but there are a handful of good runners who can hold their own ahead of him... Potts, Frodo, Thomas and a few others
Train to race. Race to win.
Train to race. Race to win.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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TOP 10 Pro Men - Thru Bike Split 8 - Kawaihae almost back to Queen K - 75.88 mi
1 3:54:26 Michael Weiss
2 3:54:30 0:05 Tim O'Donnell
3 3:54:32 0:06 Sebastian Kienle
4 3:54:34 0:09 Jan Frodeno
5 3:54:36 0:10 Luke McKenzie
6 3:54:37 0:12 Andy Potts
7 3:54:39 0:13 Ben Hoffman
8 3:54:41 0:16 Boris Stein
9 3:54:43 0:17 Igor Amorelli
10 3:54:44 0:19 Eneko Llanos
11 3:54:46 0:20 Andi Boecherer
12 3:55:33 1:08 Terenzo Bozzone
13 3:55:40 1:14 Marko Albert
14 3:56:45 2:19 Timothy Van Berkel
15 3:57:21 2:55 David Plese
16 3:57:22 2:57 Jesse Thomas
17 3:57:25 3:00 Lionel Sanders
18 3:58:11 3:45 Christian Kramer
19 3:58:13 3:48 Ivan Rana
20 3:58:14 3:49 David Dellow
21 3:58:16 3:50 Ruedi Wild
22 3:58:17 3:52 Bart Aernouts
23 3:59:13 4:47 Kyle Buckingham
24 3:59:36 5:10 David McNamee
25 3:59:47 5:22 Frederik Van Lierde
26 3:59:48 5:23 Ronnie Schildknecht
27 3:59:50 5:24 Matt Russell
28 4:00:24 5:59 Denis Chevrot
29 4:00:28 6:03 James Cunnama
30 4:00:47 6:21 Jordan Rapp
31 4:01:19 6:54 Brent McMahon
32 4:01:20 6:55 Patrick Lange
33 4:01:25 7:00 Jan Van Berkel
34 4:02:53 8:28 Kirill Kotsegarov
35 4:02:55 8:30 Cyril Viennot
36 4:03:35 9:10 Tim Don
37 4:03:50 9:25 Trevor Wurtele
38 4:03:53 9:27 Joe Skipper
39 4:03:58 9:33 Andreas Raelert
40 4:04:00 9:34 Stefan Schmid
Train to race. Race to win.
1 3:54:26 Michael Weiss
2 3:54:30 0:05 Tim O'Donnell
3 3:54:32 0:06 Sebastian Kienle
4 3:54:34 0:09 Jan Frodeno
5 3:54:36 0:10 Luke McKenzie
6 3:54:37 0:12 Andy Potts
7 3:54:39 0:13 Ben Hoffman
8 3:54:41 0:16 Boris Stein
9 3:54:43 0:17 Igor Amorelli
10 3:54:44 0:19 Eneko Llanos
11 3:54:46 0:20 Andi Boecherer
12 3:55:33 1:08 Terenzo Bozzone
13 3:55:40 1:14 Marko Albert
14 3:56:45 2:19 Timothy Van Berkel
15 3:57:21 2:55 David Plese
16 3:57:22 2:57 Jesse Thomas
17 3:57:25 3:00 Lionel Sanders
18 3:58:11 3:45 Christian Kramer
19 3:58:13 3:48 Ivan Rana
20 3:58:14 3:49 David Dellow
21 3:58:16 3:50 Ruedi Wild
22 3:58:17 3:52 Bart Aernouts
23 3:59:13 4:47 Kyle Buckingham
24 3:59:36 5:10 David McNamee
25 3:59:47 5:22 Frederik Van Lierde
26 3:59:48 5:23 Ronnie Schildknecht
27 3:59:50 5:24 Matt Russell
28 4:00:24 5:59 Denis Chevrot
29 4:00:28 6:03 James Cunnama
30 4:00:47 6:21 Jordan Rapp
31 4:01:19 6:54 Brent McMahon
32 4:01:20 6:55 Patrick Lange
33 4:01:25 7:00 Jan Van Berkel
34 4:02:53 8:28 Kirill Kotsegarov
35 4:02:55 8:30 Cyril Viennot
36 4:03:35 9:10 Tim Don
37 4:03:50 9:25 Trevor Wurtele
38 4:03:53 9:27 Joe Skipper
39 4:03:58 9:33 Andreas Raelert
40 4:04:00 9:34 Stefan Schmid
Train to race. Race to win.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [BMANX]
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BMANX wrote:
Sanders will crack the top 10 by T2 and by half way into the marathon will be in 4th.But. . . what happened to "he will never be competitive unless he learns to swim?"
Everyone was saying this entire week that he had no chance. What say you? Now.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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so the commentator just quoted the 7 mins lost by potts to be specifically due to the tires being 25c, and not because they were gatorskins w/ butyls...so he said likely no one is running "wide" tires. that ridiculous answer aside...
can someone give us a real answer as to what % of pros are running 25s?
can someone give us a real answer as to what % of pros are running 25s?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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flyingirish wrote:
TOP 10 Pro Men - Thru Bike Split 8 - Kawaihae almost back to Queen K - 75.88 mi 1 3:54:26 Michael Weiss
2 3:54:30 0:05 Tim O'Donnell
3 3:54:32 0:06 Sebastian Kienle
4 3:54:34 0:09 Jan Frodeno
5 3:54:36 0:10 Luke McKenzie
6 3:54:37 0:12 Andy Potts
7 3:54:39 0:13 Ben Hoffman
8 3:54:41 0:16 Boris Stein
9 3:54:43 0:17 Igor Amorelli
10 3:54:44 0:19 Eneko Llanos
11 3:54:46 0:20 Andi Boecherer
12 3:55:33 1:08 Terenzo Bozzone
13 3:55:40 1:14 Marko Albert
14 3:56:45 2:19 Timothy Van Berkel
15 3:57:21 2:55 David Plese
16 3:57:22 2:57 Jesse Thomas
17 3:57:25 3:00 Lionel Sanders
18 3:58:11 3:45 Christian Kramer
19 3:58:13 3:48 Ivan Rana
20 3:58:14 3:49 David Dellow
21 3:58:16 3:50 Ruedi Wild
22 3:58:17 3:52 Bart Aernouts
23 3:59:13 4:47 Kyle Buckingham
24 3:59:36 5:10 David McNamee
25 3:59:47 5:22 Frederik Van Lierde
26 3:59:48 5:23 Ronnie Schildknecht
27 3:59:50 5:24 Matt Russell
28 4:00:24 5:59 Denis Chevrot
29 4:00:28 6:03 James Cunnama
30 4:00:47 6:21 Jordan Rapp
31 4:01:19 6:54 Brent McMahon
32 4:01:20 6:55 Patrick Lange
33 4:01:25 7:00 Jan Van Berkel
34 4:02:53 8:28 Kirill Kotsegarov
35 4:02:55 8:30 Cyril Viennot
36 4:03:35 9:10 Tim Don
37 4:03:50 9:25 Trevor Wurtele
38 4:03:53 9:27 Joe Skipper
39 4:03:58 9:33 Andreas Raelert
40 4:04:00 9:34 Stefan Schmid
Man. Raelert almost 10 minutes down... that penalty... :(
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
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monty wrote:
Tim looks strong, but doing the typewriter on his saddle. Those pro fits are great until you get 70 miles into the ironman!! Remember this is how Floyd used to ride, slide slide slide, push and repeat.Not a good fit outcome
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [PBT_2009]
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PBT_2009 wrote:
so the commentator just quoted the 7 mins lost by potts to be specifically due to the tires being 25c, and not because they were gatorskins w/ butyls...so he said likely no one is running "wide" tires. that ridiculous answer aside... can someone give us a real answer as to what % of pros are running 25s?
Even worse, perpetuating the BS narrative control of Potts
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [ericM40-44]
[ In reply to ]
Frodeno attacks
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Pat0]
[ In reply to ]
Pat0 wrote:
BMANX wrote:
Sanders will crack the top 10 by T2 and by half way into the marathon will be in 4th.But. . . what happened to "he will never be competitive unless he learns to swim?"
Everyone was saying this entire week that he had no chance. What say you? Now.
Dude.... were not even at the 100 mile mark on the bike. He still has plenty of time to blow up. For all you know, he may run 3:15 due burning too many matches.
Personally, I think he's positioned himself very well. And I'm very surprised. I hope he has plenty left the tank.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [dyarab]
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I missed it. did he get a drafting penalty?
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Tri-Banter]
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Potts looked very lean this year.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Slowman]
[ In reply to ]
his race was strong through about 40 or 50 miles. he's been fading a bit since then.
Funny think he is just a little over 6 minutes back of the leader, which I would have said was not too bad at this juncture. But throw in 30 guys in that gap, and now it is not that good at all. Either a lot of guys are blowing today, or the top 10 to 15 is going to be really close..Probably the shortened swim..(-;
Funny think he is just a little over 6 minutes back of the leader, which I would have said was not too bad at this juncture. But throw in 30 guys in that gap, and now it is not that good at all. Either a lot of guys are blowing today, or the top 10 to 15 is going to be really close..Probably the shortened swim..(-;
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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This coverage is excellent and race very interesting so far.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [ElGordo]
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ElGordo wrote:
That's where professional production comes in: use people like Welch (or any other insider) to add insight; someone who can tell the narrative of the day professionally leads the cast. Does anyone here not think Phil Liggett (for only one example) would do a better PxP than Welch? Welch knows tri, but he's not a broadcaster and after X tries at this it's obvious he is either not capable or not interested in improving at it.Get one of those british guys who do diamond league and the top marathons. Their commentary is awesome.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [troy@quarq]
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troy. can i get see if i can understand this? live tracking of this race is on going right here, at quarqrace, using the quarq qollector. yes?
meanwhile we have a competing technology being used for the pros. yes?
in the pro race, what i'm seeing are big gaps in time between the moments when the GPS is in range to deliver a signal back to the base station. is that because it's using cell technology? and the cell service sucks out there? or what?
now, quarq's tech, i don't see any indication whether there's a lag time. is that because there is no lag? or because you don't have that field? or what? how do i know the lag time? and how does the signal get sent from the qollector to the aggregator/base station?
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meanwhile we have a competing technology being used for the pros. yes?
in the pro race, what i'm seeing are big gaps in time between the moments when the GPS is in range to deliver a signal back to the base station. is that because it's using cell technology? and the cell service sucks out there? or what?
now, quarq's tech, i don't see any indication whether there's a lag time. is that because there is no lag? or because you don't have that field? or what? how do i know the lag time? and how does the signal get sent from the qollector to the aggregator/base station?
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [fulla]
[ In reply to ]
we need the irish guys from this...
Train to race. Race to win.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [dyarab]
[ In reply to ]
dyarab wrote:
Cup wrote:
stevej wrote:
Cup wrote:
That train broke up pretty quick. Thomas dropped back to 2:57 back. Sanders is 3 secs behind him.Thomas may have dropped back but the train is still huge.
Yeah. Looks like 11 still there.
how many ahead of thomas are betters runners?
Isn't this jesses first kona? He will not crack the top 5, maybe not even top 10. (I might have to eat my words, but i dont think so)
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [BMANX]
[ In reply to ]
BMANX wrote:
Sanders will crack the top 10 by T2 and by half way into the marathon will be in 4th.Downhill doesn't "favor" his strengths. But the fact that he didn't lose time, and others such as Thomas lost 2 minutes, you can see he did what he needed to stay within a good distance of the leaders.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [snaaijert]
[ In reply to ]
snaaijert wrote:
dyarab wrote:
Cup wrote:
stevej wrote:
Cup wrote:
That train broke up pretty quick. Thomas dropped back to 2:57 back. Sanders is 3 secs behind him.Thomas may have dropped back but the train is still huge.
Yeah. Looks like 11 still there.
how many ahead of thomas are betters runners?
Isn't this jesses first kona? He will not crack the top 5, maybe not even top 10. (I might have to eat my words, but i dont think so)
I think a top 10 is definitely doable, which would be a great result for him. Top 5 is a bit of a stretch at this point unless we have a few big blow-ups.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [snaaijert]
[ In reply to ]
Thomas is now 4:45 back and Sanders is 3:31 at 87.5miles
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [snaaijert]
[ In reply to ]
Thomas lost a lot of time - almost 2 minutes - between Kawaihae and Waikoloa. He had been just ahead of Sanders, now 1:12 behind him. Sanders lost 30 seconds to the lead on that segment.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [snaaijert]
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snaaijert wrote:
Isn't this jesses first kona? He will not crack the top 5, maybe not even top 10. (I might have to eat my words, but i dont think so)
It is. And he could run a great marathon if he's not overcooking the bike. If all these guys get off within 5-6 minutes it's going to be a fun first 10k of the marathon to watch.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sylvan]
[ In reply to ]
What about andy Raeleart? He always comes out of nowhere on the run to salvage a podium.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [dyarab]
[ In reply to ]
whoa. what happened? i thought frodeno was in the lead pack, now i see he's Jan Frodeno and David Plese have come thru mile 90, now 3:55 down per the tweet from jason tuffs on the ironman site. can that be true?
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Slowman]
[ In reply to ]
They just issued a correction. they mean Sanders
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Slowman]
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Slowman wrote:
whoa. what happened? i thought frodeno was in the lead pack, now i see he's Jan Frodeno and David Plese have come thru mile 90, now 3:55 down per the tweet from jason tuffs on the ironman site. can that be true?Not true. Saw that as well. Shame on you IM.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
[ In reply to ]
Today LS is going to crack 2:40 for the marathon and will move from 4th at the half way point to a podium spot. Just depends on how much the others fade. LS can suffer more than anyone else in this race.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Slowman]
[ In reply to ]
No that was LS. Frodo is still in 3rd.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Slowman]
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Slowman wrote:
whoa. what happened? i thought frodeno was in the lead pack, now i see he's Jan Frodeno and David Plese have come thru mile 90, now 3:55 down per the tweet from jason tuffs on the ironman site. can that be true?TOP 10 Pro Men - Thru Bike Split 9 - Waikoloa inbound - 11.49->87.37 mi
1 4:19:25 Luke McKenzie 24:50 last split time (11.49 miles from Kawaihae) 27.8 mph
2 4:19:35 0:11 Sebastian Kienle 25:04 27.5
3 4:19:42 0:18 Jan Frodeno 25:08 27.4
4 4:19:45 0:21 Andi Boecherer 25:00 27.6
5 4:19:49 0:25 Michael Weiss 25:23 27.2
6 4:19:50 0:26 Tim O'Donnell 25:20 27.2
7 4:19:52 0:27 Boris Stein 25:11 27.4
8 4:19:53 0:28 Ben Hoffman 25:15 27.3
9 4:19:55 0:31 Eneko Llanos 25:11 27.4
10 4:19:55 0:31 Andy Potts 25:19 27.2
11 4:20:45 1:21 Igor Amorelli 26:03 26.5
12 4:21:39 2:14 Marko Albert 25:59 26.5
13 4:21:40 2:15 Terenzo Bozzone 26:07 26.4
14 4:22:55 3:31 Lionel Sanders 25:30 27.0
15 4:22:57 3:32 David Plese 25:37 26.9
16 4:24:07 4:43 Jesse Thomas 26:45 25.8
17 4:24:36 5:12 Christian Kramer 26:26 26.1
18 4:24:38 5:13 Bart Aernouts 26:21 26.2
19 4:24:39 5:15 Ruedi Wild 26:24 26.1
20 4:24:41 5:16 Ivan Rana 26:28 26.0
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [BMANX]
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BMANX wrote:
Today LS is going to crack 2:40 for the marathon and will move from 4th at the half way point to a podium spot. Just depends on how much the others fade. LS can suffer more than anyone else in this race.This is hilarious. Thanks for the laugh.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [B_Doughtie]
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Where the hell are these 'spotters' that the live feed keeps boasting about? I see nothing but barren rocks and a couple of strands of grass. Are the athletes holding conversations with people on motos?
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [B_Doughtie]
[ In reply to ]
i just got an update from the course. weiss blew. potts blew. frodo is still in there, maybe 7 or 8 guys in the front group now: stein, boecherer, llanos, frodo, o'donnell, hoffman, mckenzie, maybe 1 or 2 others.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Culley22]
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Just came back after 2 hours splitting and stacking outside. The German picture was frozen. I'm back to the IM broadcast. Sanders in a bad patch?
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Tri-Banter]
[ In reply to ]
If only the damn camera could pan either left or right, we would get a tad more infirmation.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Tri-Banter]
[ In reply to ]
Motorcycle camera guy does not look like a fun job to me. That guy's back has got to be killing him.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [shamrocks]
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shamrocks wrote:
If only the damn camera could pan either left or right, we would get a tad more infirmation.Was just saying the same thing. Show us some angles to see who's where.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [frenchieTT]
[ In reply to ]
"Not seeing many p5x !!!"
asked and answered, in another thread.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Tri-Banter]
[ In reply to ]
MBE gets a penalty. Rinny now 12 minutes back. Daniela opening a gap on Anja Beranek.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [shamrocks]
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shamrocks wrote:
If only the damn camera could pan either left or right, we would get a tad more infirmation.They just panned forward on Ryf and I'm pretty sure that the pace car wasn't too far in front of her. Perhaps that's what they're hiding.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [shamrocks]
[ In reply to ]
no kidding. just a pan up and down the road every couple mins would help SO much
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Tri-Banter]
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Seems like drafting penalties are on the rise this year. Trying to call a tighter race this year maybe?
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Tri-Banter]
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Tri-Banter wrote:
shamrocks wrote:
If only the damn camera could pan either left or right, we would get a tad more infirmation.They just panned forward on Ryf and I'm pretty sure that the pace car wasn't too far in front of her. Perhaps that's what they're hiding.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [spot]
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In the pro race that is. The AG race is a peloton
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Slowman]
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i just got an update from the course. weiss blew. potts blew. frodo is still in there, maybe 7 or 8 guys in the front group now: stein, boecherer, llanos, frodo, o'donnell, hoffman, mckenzie, maybe 1 or 2 others.
Hugh, thought everyone was getting that free ride in the pack saving all those huge watts everyone talks about? More guys riding together late in any race, = more blow ups. Dudes dont care about finishing or even top 15, it is race for the money or nothing. Let the back half of the field that was never in the race to begin with collect the places no one really cares about..
Hugh, thought everyone was getting that free ride in the pack saving all those huge watts everyone talks about? More guys riding together late in any race, = more blow ups. Dudes dont care about finishing or even top 15, it is race for the money or nothing. Let the back half of the field that was never in the race to begin with collect the places no one really cares about..
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sylvan]
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Slowman]
[ In reply to ]
Slowman wrote:
troy. can i get see if i can understand this? live tracking of this race is on going right here, at quarqrace, using the quarq qollector. yes? meanwhile we have a competing technology being used for the pros. yes?
in the pro race, what i'm seeing are big gaps in time between the moments when the GPS is in range to deliver a signal back to the base station. is that because it's using cell technology? and the cell service sucks out there? or what?
now, quarq's tech, i don't see any indication whether there's a lag time. is that because there is no lag? or because you don't have that field? or what? how do i know the lag time? and how does the signal get sent from the qollector to the aggregator/base station?
Dan and others. Just rejoining in late as I had a family engagement to attend. Where do I get the GPS tracker links?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Tri-Banter]
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ironman.com wrote:
Michael Weiss may be paying for his earlier efforts, he's now in 9th place 2:20 back.So much for DB giving him a paycheck for his cycling effort today.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
[ In reply to ]
Going on about Brian mccrystal being cheered on by the Irish and the UK overall. What a totally ignorant uninformed clown
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sylvan]
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TOP 10 Pro Men - Thru Bike Split 10 - Vet Cemetery inbound - 12.14->99.51 mi
1 4:46:06 Sebastian Kienle 26:32 27.5
2 4:46:11 0:05 Jan Frodeno 26:29 27.5
3 4:46:13 0:07 Luke McKenzie 26:49 27.2
4 4:46:15 0:09 Boris Stein 26:24 27.6
5 4:46:17 0:11 Ben Hoffman 26:25 27.6
6 4:46:25 0:19 Andi Boecherer 26:41 27.3
7 4:46:42 0:36 Tim O'Donnell 26:52 27.1
8 4:47:23 1:17 Eneko Llanos 27:28 26.5
9 4:48:27 2:21 Michael Weiss 28:38 25.4
10 4:49:01 2:55 Andy Potts 29:06 25.0
11 4:49:04 2:58 Igor Amorelli 28:20 25.7
12 4:49:51 3:45 Marko Albert 28:13 25.8
13 4:49:54 3:48 Terenzo Bozzone 28:15 25.8
14 4:50:33 4:27 Lionel Sanders 27:38 26.4
15 4:51:07 5:01 David Plese 28:11 25.8
16 4:52:24 6:18 Frederik Van Lierde 27:30 26.5
17 4:52:58 6:52 Christian Kramer 28:22 25.7
18 4:53:04 6:58 Bart Aernouts 28:27 25.6
19 4:53:07 7:01 Ruedi Wild 28:28 25.6
20 4:53:09 7:03 Jesse Thomas 29:02 25.1
21 4:53:38 7:32 Matt Russell 28:16 25.8
22 4:53:49 7:43 Kyle Buckingham 28:30 25.6
23 4:53:51 7:45 Ivan Rana 29:11 25.0
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1 4:46:06 Sebastian Kienle 26:32 27.5
2 4:46:11 0:05 Jan Frodeno 26:29 27.5
3 4:46:13 0:07 Luke McKenzie 26:49 27.2
4 4:46:15 0:09 Boris Stein 26:24 27.6
5 4:46:17 0:11 Ben Hoffman 26:25 27.6
6 4:46:25 0:19 Andi Boecherer 26:41 27.3
7 4:46:42 0:36 Tim O'Donnell 26:52 27.1
8 4:47:23 1:17 Eneko Llanos 27:28 26.5
9 4:48:27 2:21 Michael Weiss 28:38 25.4
10 4:49:01 2:55 Andy Potts 29:06 25.0
11 4:49:04 2:58 Igor Amorelli 28:20 25.7
12 4:49:51 3:45 Marko Albert 28:13 25.8
13 4:49:54 3:48 Terenzo Bozzone 28:15 25.8
14 4:50:33 4:27 Lionel Sanders 27:38 26.4
15 4:51:07 5:01 David Plese 28:11 25.8
16 4:52:24 6:18 Frederik Van Lierde 27:30 26.5
17 4:52:58 6:52 Christian Kramer 28:22 25.7
18 4:53:04 6:58 Bart Aernouts 28:27 25.6
19 4:53:07 7:01 Ruedi Wild 28:28 25.6
20 4:53:09 7:03 Jesse Thomas 29:02 25.1
21 4:53:38 7:32 Matt Russell 28:16 25.8
22 4:53:49 7:43 Kyle Buckingham 28:30 25.6
23 4:53:51 7:45 Ivan Rana 29:11 25.0
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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Dev
http://www.ironman.com/...y=2016#axzz4MUiFbyX0
LS fading...but still a pretty big group going together.
Elite cyclists hammering it but we'll see what happens on the run.
Very fun.
http://www.ironman.com/...y=2016#axzz4MUiFbyX0
LS fading...but still a pretty big group going together.
Elite cyclists hammering it but we'll see what happens on the run.
Very fun.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
[ In reply to ]
Everyone been watching Ryf on camera for the past minutes, that is what Moto drafting looks like. They were doing pretty good at staying to the side and back for shots, but that was an in your face or side front for a long time. Just these few minutes wipes out $5000 grand of aero bullshit.. HA!!!
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
[ In reply to ]
monty wrote:
i just got an update from the course. weiss blew. potts blew. frodo is still in there, maybe 7 or 8 guys in the front group now: stein, boecherer, llanos, frodo, o'donnell, hoffman, mckenzie, maybe 1 or 2 others. Hugh, thought everyone was getting that free ride in the pack saving all those huge watts everyone talks about? More guys riding together late in any race, = more blow ups. Dudes dont care about finishing or even top 15, it is race for the money or nothing. Let the back half of the field that was never in the race to begin with collect the places no one really cares about..
Is the pack in the front pulling away, or Lionel losing ground by slowing down. He's 4:25 down now and from what I read 3 min down at Hawi. Can all these guys keep Kienle's pace. Monty any prediction on Kienle's run time. I am thinking he is banking on a sub 2:50
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Tri-Banter]
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Tri-Banter wrote:
MBE gets a penalty. Rinny now 12 minutes back. Daniela opening a gap on Anja Beranek.So much for using the posted data for information.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sylvan]
[ In reply to ]
Man. Sanders dropping. Thomas dropped back a lot also. Wonder if they backed off to safe some for the run or if they're just cooked.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Tri-Banter]
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He came out of the water late. He still could put the fastest bike split down.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
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By the way, do you think Potts is blowing up or do you think he's pacing it out and re loading for the run?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
[ In reply to ]
Hope Potts is saving for a great run. Love to see him and TO up there again.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
[ In reply to ]
2-5min is nothing if u got legs to run ur best imho
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The entire event (IM) is like "death by 1000 cuts" and the best race is minimizing all those cuts and losing less blood than the other guy. - Dev
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
[ In reply to ]
Ryf is a beast.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Cup]
[ In reply to ]
Hope not to jinx him, but TO hanging too.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Cup]
[ In reply to ]
"Wonder if they backed off to safe some for the run or if they're just cooked."
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [alien]
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He came out of the water late. He still could put the fastest bike split down
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Weiss was 90 seconds behind Sebastian. He's now nearly 3 minutes behind, while Kienle is leading. My statement stands.
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Weiss was 90 seconds behind Sebastian. He's now nearly 3 minutes behind, while Kienle is leading. My statement stands.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [LuisDF]
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LuisDF wrote:
2-5min is nothing if u got legs to run ur best imhoThat's what I am thinking. Some of these guy are probably thinking that they already biked hard enough and at most will enter T2 5 min down, but if they can re load enough, then it's going to be a strong run and most of the guys in the front group will blow.
TO is in a good position in the front group having not "cooked" himself with super fast racing this summer.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Tri-Banter]
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The current interview with Andrew:
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Tri-Banter]
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Welch sounds like he's having an awkward performance review with his boss.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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TO look strong and seems he was smarter this year not taking many pulls on the front (for what i can see)
The entire event (IM) is like "death by 1000 cuts" and the best race is minimizing all those cuts and losing less blood than the other guy. - Dev
The entire event (IM) is like "death by 1000 cuts" and the best race is minimizing all those cuts and losing less blood than the other guy. - Dev
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Cup]
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Cup wrote:
Man. Sanders dropping. Thomas dropped back a lot also. Wonder if they backed off to safe some for the run or if they're just cooked.Fading compared to the leaders, not compared to everyone else. I say he lands about 6-8 overall.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [ggeiger]
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Hoffman is already in good shape and it's been >6 months since his last IM in South Africa. How fast do you guys think he can run?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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Stein may be the man to take it all - surely he'll have fastest bike split.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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rinny over 15min behind. She needs ryf to blow up.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [dtoce]
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dtoce wrote:
Ryf is a beast.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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It's amazing to see the top 20 settling, rising, falling, and shifting heading into T2 - some letting off, some gunning it in - all will be revealed once the bikes are racked. Shaping up to a be a great run!
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [shamrocks]
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shamrocks wrote:
Going on about Brian mccrystal being cheered on by the Irish and the UK overall. What a totally ignorant uninformed clownHope he has the legs to run, looking at his splits he is absolutley smashing the bike course. Faster than Joe Skipper, anyone know if Joe Skipper had a mechanical or penalty? Looked like he was making good progress and then blew.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Scotttriguy]
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Ryf 15 min up on rinny, 11 mins on jackson. Still 25mi to ride. Is anyone even going to threaten ryf?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [frenchieTT]
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Rinny will have to run her best run ever just to have a chance at a podium, winning will need something to happen to others too..Funny how Ryf put so much time into her chaser, right about the time all those frontal close ups were being taken.. (-;
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [frenchieTT]
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Yeah. Not looking goof for Rinny at all... I'll be surprised if she's even on the podium... hope so though.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sylvan]
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1 5:08:32 Boris Stein 22:17 22.7
2 5:08:33 0:02 Sebastian Kienle 22:27 22.5
3 5:08:35 0:03 Andi Boecherer 22:10 22.8
4 5:08:37 0:05 Jan Frodeno 22:26 22.5
5 5:08:39 0:07 Luke McKenzie 22:26 22.5
6 5:08:40 0:09 Ben Hoffman 22:24 22.6
7 5:08:42 0:10 Tim O'Donnell 22:00 23.0
8 5:11:02 2:30 Eneko Llanos 23:39 21.4
9 5:11:53 3:21 Michael Weiss 23:26 21.6
10 5:12:56 4:24 Marko Albert 23:05 21.9
11 5:12:58 4:26 Terenzo Bozzone 23:04 21.9
12 5:13:49 5:17 Igor Amorelli 24:45 20.4
13 5:14:05 5:34 Andy Potts 25:05 20.2
14 5:14:17 5:45 Lionel Sanders 23:44 21.3
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2 5:08:33 0:02 Sebastian Kienle 22:27 22.5
3 5:08:35 0:03 Andi Boecherer 22:10 22.8
4 5:08:37 0:05 Jan Frodeno 22:26 22.5
5 5:08:39 0:07 Luke McKenzie 22:26 22.5
6 5:08:40 0:09 Ben Hoffman 22:24 22.6
7 5:08:42 0:10 Tim O'Donnell 22:00 23.0
8 5:11:02 2:30 Eneko Llanos 23:39 21.4
9 5:11:53 3:21 Michael Weiss 23:26 21.6
10 5:12:56 4:24 Marko Albert 23:05 21.9
11 5:12:58 4:26 Terenzo Bozzone 23:04 21.9
12 5:13:49 5:17 Igor Amorelli 24:45 20.4
13 5:14:05 5:34 Andy Potts 25:05 20.2
14 5:14:17 5:45 Lionel Sanders 23:44 21.3
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [stevey028]
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I just saw just under 80k people watching online feed right now. Interesting
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Jamaican]
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How far down was RInny in 2014 when she ran Ryf down? I wrote her off that year...but she is just amazing on the run. Still, I thought that she would have a better bike this year.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [snaaijert]
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snaaijert wrote:
Ryf 15 min up on rinny, 11 mins on jackson. Still 25mi to ride. Is anyone even going to threaten ryf?15 mins is an eternity. Barring a disaster Ryf will win.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
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monty has given the mark allen riddle a try. i don't know if he's got it all figured out.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Tri-Banter]
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Tri-Banter wrote:
He came out of the water late. He still could put the fastest bike split down ---
Weiss was 90 seconds behind Sebastian. He's now nearly 3 minutes behind, while Kienle is leading. My statement stands.
I was thinking all along that Weiss must have a big pay offer to be first off the bike. Oh well, not today.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Slowman]
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Slowman wrote:
monty has given the mark allen riddle a try. i don't know if he's got it all figured out.What wattage do you guys estimate that Kienle rode today?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [snaaijert]
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keinly bike position is so hard... u can tell base on the last images that his neck is sore
The entire event (IM) is like "death by 1000 cuts" and the best race is minimizing all those cuts and losing less blood than the other guy. - Dev
The entire event (IM) is like "death by 1000 cuts" and the best race is minimizing all those cuts and losing less blood than the other guy. - Dev
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [dtoce]
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No, I thought this one
https://ironstats.org/public/2016-10-08-worldchampionship-iron-MPRO-live.html
dtoce wrote:
Dev http://www.ironman.com/...y=2016#axzz4MUiFbyX0
LS fading...but still a pretty big group going together.
Elite cyclists hammering it but we'll see what happens on the run.
Very fun.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Slowman]
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I'd be curious to know if German federation has shifted from ITU focus to full support of these LC top athletes who are winning and podiuming at world champ events. Can't say that for Germans ITU right now.
ETA: sorry auto correct from phone.
How they announced the Olympic squad was one of most disappointing things I've seen at elite level.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
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monty wrote:
Rinny will have to run her best run ever just to have a chance at a podium, winning will need something to happen to others too..Funny how Ryf put so much time into her chaser, right about the time all those frontal close ups were being taken.. (-;Rinny's overcome 14min the past right? She's 15min down on Ryf at mile 87!!! This gap will be even bigger. She'll likely have the 5th fastest run of the whole race but it'll be a tall order to make this up.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sylvan]
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Keinle is leading but looks like he's putting a huge effort on those last miles. Will see how his legs hold up. This could be a remake of the Ironwar, just Keinle vs Frodeno this time
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sylvan]
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German bike dominance.....
Deck is stacked....maybe they pushed themselves too hard.
1 5:08:32 Boris Stein 22:17 22.7
2 5:08:33 0:02 Sebastian Kienle 22:27 22.5
3 5:08:35 0:03 Andi Boecherer 22:10 22.8
4 5:08:37 0:05 Jan Frodeno 22:26 22.5
5 5:08:39 0:07 Luke McKenzie 22:26 22.5
6 5:08:40 0:09 Ben Hoffman 22:24 22.6
7 5:08:42 0:10 Tim O'Donnell 22:00 23.0
Deck is stacked....maybe they pushed themselves too hard.
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TOP 10 Pro Men - Thru Bike Split 11 - Queen K in Kona - 8.43->107.94 mi 1 5:08:32 Boris Stein 22:17 22.7
2 5:08:33 0:02 Sebastian Kienle 22:27 22.5
3 5:08:35 0:03 Andi Boecherer 22:10 22.8
4 5:08:37 0:05 Jan Frodeno 22:26 22.5
5 5:08:39 0:07 Luke McKenzie 22:26 22.5
6 5:08:40 0:09 Ben Hoffman 22:24 22.6
7 5:08:42 0:10 Tim O'Donnell 22:00 23.0
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [those fast guys]
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Quote:
1 5:08:32 Boris Stein 2 5:08:33 0:02 Sebastian Kienle
3 5:08:35 0:03 Andi Boecherer
4 5:08:37 0:05 Jan Frodeno
5 5:08:39 0:07 Luke McKenzie
6 5:08:40 0:09 Ben Hoffman
7 5:08:42 0:10 Tim O'Donnell
awesome. that's Stein, leading by nothing, nothing, nothing, etc
could be fun. some gamers there. kienle and frodo may be the greats, but McK and Hoff and OD are gamers
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [dsmallwood]
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If I have my math right is Kienle going to break Stadler's course record (4:18ish)
Edit: was looking at the women's race clock....no record
Edit: was looking at the women's race clock....no record
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [dsmallwood]
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ooohhh shittt
they all look pretty good!
EPIC RUN about to happen!
The entire event (IM) is like "death by 1000 cuts" and the best race is minimizing all those cuts and losing less blood than the other guy. - Dev
they all look pretty good!
EPIC RUN about to happen!
The entire event (IM) is like "death by 1000 cuts" and the best race is minimizing all those cuts and losing less blood than the other guy. - Dev
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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Making athletes run the loop around transition has always made me laugh.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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Not even close, and the course looked fast today too. Not as fast as the swim course though..(-;
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [rodchaves31]
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rodchaves31 wrote:
snaaijert wrote:
Ryf 15 min up on rinny, 11 mins on jackson. Still 25mi to ride. Is anyone even going to threaten ryf?15 mins is an eternity. Barring a disaster Ryf will win.
I totally agree.
Ryf=winner
now with the men bunched as they are...??
it's actually gonna be a race all the way to the podium
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [LuisDF]
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Weiss dismounted with his bike shoes still on!
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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1 4:23:05 Boris Stein
2 4:23:56 0:52 Sebastian Kienle
3 4:27:56 4:52 Luke McKenzie
4 4:28:06 5:02 Ben Hoffman
5 4:28:07 5:03 Andi Boecherer
6 4:29:00 5:56 Jan Frodeno
7 4:29:11 6:07 Tim O'Donnell
Train to race. Race to win.
2 4:23:56 0:52 Sebastian Kienle
3 4:27:56 4:52 Luke McKenzie
4 4:28:06 5:02 Ben Hoffman
5 4:28:07 5:03 Andi Boecherer
6 4:29:00 5:56 Jan Frodeno
7 4:29:11 6:07 Tim O'Donnell
Train to race. Race to win.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [windschatten]
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
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Weiss just done with his job. Some exciting run in perspective.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [B_Doughtie]
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B_Doughtie wrote:
Making athletes run the loop around transition has always made me laugh.It seems stupid on the surface, but it is so that all athletes cover the same distance in transition. At least for T1, it makes sense since everyone has to pick up a bike. T2, there could just be a hand off of the bike and then everyone just cuts across to the change tent.
Will be interesting to see the mile 1 split and how many have sub 6 min opening miles and >7.5 min closing mile.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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1 4:23:05 Boris Stein
2 4:23:56 0:52 Sebastian Kienle
3 4:25:52 2:48 Michael Weiss
4 4:27:56 4:52 Luke McKenzie
5 4:28:06 5:02 Ben Hoffman
6 4:28:07 5:03 Andi Boecherer
7 4:29:00 5:56 Jan Frodeno
8 4:29:11 6:07 Tim O'Donnell
9 4:30:48 7:44 Eneko Llanos
10 4:32:49 9:45 Terenzo Bozzone
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2 4:23:56 0:52 Sebastian Kienle
3 4:25:52 2:48 Michael Weiss
4 4:27:56 4:52 Luke McKenzie
5 4:28:06 5:02 Ben Hoffman
6 4:28:07 5:03 Andi Boecherer
7 4:29:00 5:56 Jan Frodeno
8 4:29:11 6:07 Tim O'Donnell
9 4:30:48 7:44 Eneko Llanos
10 4:32:49 9:45 Terenzo Bozzone
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [RowToTri]
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RowToTri wrote:
Weiss dismounted with his bike shoes still on!ankle socks weren't they?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [dtoce]
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An odd thing to say about bozzones face by ML
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Sweeney]
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Sweeney wrote:
Tri-Banter wrote:
He came out of the water late. He still could put the fastest bike split down ---
Weiss was 90 seconds behind Sebastian. He's now nearly 3 minutes behind, while Kienle is leading. My statement stands.
I was thinking all along that Weiss must have a big pay offer to be first off the bike. Oh well, not today.
Did u see weiss coming into transition? He didnt even leave his bike shoes on the bike as he dismounted... Either he's disoriented AF or he's going straight to DNF ville.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sylvan]
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Kienle and Frodeno take it out running hard!
2 4:23:56 0:52 Sebastian Kienle
3 4:25:52 2:48 Michael Weiss
4 4:27:56 4:52 Luke McKenzie
5 4:28:06 5:02 Ben Hoffman
6 4:28:07 5:03 Andi Boecherer
7 4:29:00 5:56 Jan Frodeno
8 4:29:11 6:07 Tim O'Donnell
9 4:30:48 7:44 Eneko Llanos
10 4:32:49 9:45 Terenzo Bozzone
sylvan wrote:
1 4:23:05 Boris Stein 2 4:23:56 0:52 Sebastian Kienle
3 4:25:52 2:48 Michael Weiss
4 4:27:56 4:52 Luke McKenzie
5 4:28:06 5:02 Ben Hoffman
6 4:28:07 5:03 Andi Boecherer
7 4:29:00 5:56 Jan Frodeno
8 4:29:11 6:07 Tim O'Donnell
9 4:30:48 7:44 Eneko Llanos
10 4:32:49 9:45 Terenzo Bozzone
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [snaaijert]
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Sanders has left the bike course
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [snaaijert]
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Potts fell before T2?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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So exciting to see kienle chasing frodo. Great race.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sylvan]
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1 4:23:05 Boris Stein
2 4:23:56 0:52 Sebastian Kienle
3 4:25:52 2:48 Michael Weiss
4 4:27:56 4:52 Luke McKenzie
5 4:28:06 5:02 Ben Hoffman
6 4:28:07 5:03 Andi Boecherer
7 4:29:00 5:56 Jan Frodeno
8 4:29:11 6:07 Tim O'Donnell
9 4:30:48 7:44 Eneko Llanos
10 4:32:49 9:45 Terenzo Bozzone
You mean fastest so far.....Lionel ought to slot in there somewhere
2 4:23:56 0:52 Sebastian Kienle
3 4:25:52 2:48 Michael Weiss
4 4:27:56 4:52 Luke McKenzie
5 4:28:06 5:02 Ben Hoffman
6 4:28:07 5:03 Andi Boecherer
7 4:29:00 5:56 Jan Frodeno
8 4:29:11 6:07 Tim O'Donnell
9 4:30:48 7:44 Eneko Llanos
10 4:32:49 9:45 Terenzo Bozzone
You mean fastest so far.....Lionel ought to slot in there somewhere
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [snaaijert]
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I'd say both... he pimped out his new bike, mission accomplished. Time for some cookies, coke and an IV.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [shamrocks]
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Looks like Potts crashed on the dismount.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
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1 4:23:05 Boris Stein
2 4:23:56 0:52 Sebastian Kienle
3 4:25:52 2:48 Michael Weiss
4 4:26:36 3:32 Lionel Sanders
5 4:27:56 4:52 Luke McKenzie
6 4:28:06 5:02 Ben Hoffman
7 4:28:07 5:03 Andi Boecherer
8 4:29:00 5:56 Jan Frodeno
9 4:29:11 6:07 Tim O'Donnell
10 4:30:48 7:44 Eneko Llanos
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2 4:23:56 0:52 Sebastian Kienle
3 4:25:52 2:48 Michael Weiss
4 4:26:36 3:32 Lionel Sanders
5 4:27:56 4:52 Luke McKenzie
6 4:28:06 5:02 Ben Hoffman
7 4:28:07 5:03 Andi Boecherer
8 4:29:00 5:56 Jan Frodeno
9 4:29:11 6:07 Tim O'Donnell
10 4:30:48 7:44 Eneko Llanos
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [ffips]
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ffips wrote:
Potts fell before T2?Looks like he crashed at the dismount line. Holding his low back, glute. Ouch!
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [ffips]
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ffips wrote:
Potts fell before T2?yeah, that was crazy-then the announcer says he 'looks good'...I'm not so sure
that right leg looks like something's up..
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [dsmallwood]
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [ianpeace]
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Shit... hope he's OK
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sp1ke]
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Frodo & Kienle: Ironwar 2016?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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Keinle and Frodeno shoulder to shoulder after 1 mile. This is shaping up as a great one!
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [ianpeace]
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is it just me or is Kienle looking pretty lean for him?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sp1ke]
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sp1ke wrote:
Frodo & Kienle: Ironwar 2016?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Sweeney]
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Speaking of 5 minutes, Ryf now 5 min up on Anja at 100 miles
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sp1ke]
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Thomas just got off the bike in the next big group
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Tri-Banter]
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Tri-Banter wrote:
Speaking of 5 minutes, Ryf now 5 min up on Anja at 100 milesI was just noticing that.
Huge.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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Kienle and Frodo are just chatting and laughing up front
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [frenchieTT]
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They're chatting and smiling.....caption contest?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sp1ke]
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sp1ke wrote:
Frodo & Kienle: Ironwar 2016?At the moment it looks more like cracking jokes on a trainingrun!
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sp1ke]
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I bloody hope so. They are having a chat and smiling like they are out on a Sunday stroll.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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FYI... the IM feed is about 13 seconds behind the German live feed
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [snaaijert]
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snaaijert wrote:
sp1ke wrote:
Frodo & Kienle: Ironwar 2016?At the moment it looks more like cracking jokes on a trainingrun!
Crazy. I see Kienle very talkative. Wonder what kind of mind games are going on there
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [frenchieTT]
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actually, kienle seems to be very chatty.....frodeno with game face.....
frenchieTT wrote:
So exciting to see kienle chasing frodo. Great race.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [rodchaves31]
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It's all smiles and cracking jokes until they find out Sanders is running 5min miles :)
At the moment it looks more like cracking jokes on a trainingrun!
Crazy. I see Kienle very talkative. Wonder what kind of mind games are going on there
rodchaves31 wrote:
snaaijert wrote:
sp1ke wrote:
Frodo & Kienle: Ironwar 2016?At the moment it looks more like cracking jokes on a trainingrun!
Crazy. I see Kienle very talkative. Wonder what kind of mind games are going on there
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [rodchaves31]
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Probably relief of the boredom realizing they have another 24 miles to run.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Tri-Banter]
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Tri-Banter wrote:
Speaking of 5 minutes, Ryf now 5 min up on Anja at 100 milesShe's going to go 8:30
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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I can't remember from the old video - did Dave and Mark chat with each other on the course?
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [windschatten]
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i just can't believe they can do that. just have no idea how they can do that. awesome race!!
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [windschatten]
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Was that big guy running along drinking a beer who I thought it was?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [windschatten]
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mehhh i don't think kinley is playing mind games; some funny stuff when around i he is just loling about it.
they both champ and they both never done that before.... it is not like macca and andreas lol
The entire event (IM) is like "death by 1000 cuts" and the best race is minimizing all those cuts and losing less blood than the other guy. - Dev
they both champ and they both never done that before.... it is not like macca and andreas lol
The entire event (IM) is like "death by 1000 cuts" and the best race is minimizing all those cuts and losing less blood than the other guy. - Dev
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [fulla]
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fulla wrote:
is it just me or is Kienle looking pretty lean for him?It's almost like he lost some bike oooomph and gained some run legs....seems plausible.
Ironwar 2016 is ON!!!
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [AndrewPhx]
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If i recall correctly, i don't believe they did
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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looks like kienle is cracking a little bit.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [fulla]
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It has to be said that the two guys running together arrived at this place in very different ways. Kienle's bike split was 4:23.56 and Frodo's was 5min "easier" at 4:29 flat. I can't help but feel that will show itself in the near future.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [frenchieTT]
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He's back with Frodo now. I think he just slowed down to get nutrition
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [AndrewPhx]
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No Dave and Mark did not chat, and anyone else lose their ironman feed? Mine has been gone for over 10 minutes, got the German one, good thing I speak some German!! At least enough to understand sports coverage of a triathlon.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Twilkas]
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Twilkas wrote:
i just can't believe they can do that. just have no idea how they can do that. awesome race!!are we going to see a Frodo breakaway late in the run-you know, after the chit-chat is done??
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [LuisDF]
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LuisDF wrote:
mehhh i don't think kinley is playing mind games; some funny stuff when around i he is just loling about it. they both champ and they both never done that before.... it is not like macca and andreas lol
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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that should be some fast marathon if they push each other until the end.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [ianpeace]
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ianpeace wrote:
It has to be said that the two guys running together arrived at this place in very different ways. Kienle's bike split was 4:23.56 and Frodo's was 5min "easier" at 4:29 flat. I can't help but feel that will show itself in the near future. Ian
Kienle has been running really well at Frankfurt and 70.3 WC. While Jan is on paper the better runner, Kienle has the cooling advantage as the smaller man.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
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monty wrote:
No Dave and Mark did not chat, and anyone else lose their ironman feed? Mine has been gone for over 10 minutes, got the German one, good thing I speak some German!! At least enough to understand sports coverage of a triathlon.What is the German translation of "fer sherr" ??
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [AndrewPhx]
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ABC mentioned they didn't exchange a word all day.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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It's almost like he lost some bike oooomph and gained some run legs
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Exactly. He only put forth the 2nd fastest bike time on the day. Pansy. Perhaps with his run he'll amount to something in this sport.
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Exactly. He only put forth the 2nd fastest bike time on the day. Pansy. Perhaps with his run he'll amount to something in this sport.
Take a short break from ST and read my blog:
http://tri-banter.blogspot.com/
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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marathon and course record today???
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [lacticturkey]
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You got a chapstick?
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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Pro Men - Thru Run Split 1 - Ali'l Drive outbound - 2.93->2.93 mi
1 5:38:21 Jan Frodeno 17:25 5:57
2 5:38:22 0:01 Sebastian Kienle 17:23 5:56
3 5:38:56 0:36 Tim O'Donnell 17:38 6:01
4 5:39:11 0:50 Ben Hoffman 17:56 6:08
5 5:39:21 1:00 Andi Boecherer 18:01 6:09
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1 5:38:21 Jan Frodeno 17:25 5:57
2 5:38:22 0:01 Sebastian Kienle 17:23 5:56
3 5:38:56 0:36 Tim O'Donnell 17:38 6:01
4 5:39:11 0:50 Ben Hoffman 17:56 6:08
5 5:39:21 1:00 Andi Boecherer 18:01 6:09
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [dtoce]
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dtoce wrote:
Twilkas wrote:
i just can't believe they can do that. just have no idea how they can do that. awesome race!!are we going to see a Frodo breakaway late in the run-you know, after the chit-chat is done??
Are you saying he is going to pull a Gwen J.?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [frenchieTT]
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frenchieTT wrote:
marathon and course record today???Anyone have the temp and humidity on Palani and on the QueenK.
Maybe they break the record, but I believe sub 8 is out. They just left T2 too late. No one has ever run sub 2:40 in Kona other than Mark Allen (his 2:40 included T2)
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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5 peeps only a minute back on the run-this is very exciting
(not as much as the Olympics where people went way over their pace for conditions, but really cool)
I doubt any will take chapstick dropped on the ground by their significant other..
:)
(not as much as the Olympics where people went way over their pace for conditions, but really cool)
I doubt any will take chapstick dropped on the ground by their significant other..
:)
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [dtoce]
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Quote:
Lionel Sanders going old school today. Running out of T2 in what appears to be a speedo.Lionel channeling his inner Faris
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Pat0]
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Pat0 wrote:
dtoce wrote:
Twilkas wrote:
i just can't believe they can do that. just have no idea how they can do that. awesome race!!are we going to see a Frodo breakaway late in the run-you know, after the chit-chat is done??
Are you saying he is going to pull a Gwen J.?
not quite to Gwen's ability compared to others, but I think Frodo has much more in him.
Of course, I could be very, very wrong.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
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My 2 cents. Frodo and Sebi are over running. 5.55 per mile pace at 2.9 miles. Mark and Dave were running slower. No one has ever run 2:35 pace at Kona or no one has run sub 2:40. I think Frodo and Kienle are "over running" less than the guys chasing them out of T1. A lot of those guys will blow as they are running right at 6 min pace. None of those guys can sustain that.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [dtoce]
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If I can't have a Canuck win, I want one of the Germans to win. These guys are awesome
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [dtoce]
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dtoce wrote:
Twilkas wrote:
i just can't believe they can do that. just have no idea how they can do that. awesome race!!are we going to see a Frodo breakaway late in the run-you know, after the chit-chat is done??
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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I remember Frodo walking aid stations last year and two years ago to cool down. I bet he won't be doing that today with Kienle on his heels. Is he going to blow up at some point...?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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That first 5k pace might hurt them. You're right. Might help those back, like Sanders and Thomas, possibly pick up a podium.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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Can't believe how quick kienle closed that gap after running extra around the aid station....looked like he was sprinting
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [M~]
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M~ wrote:
If I can't have a Canuck win, I want one of the Germans to win. These guys are awesomex2 on that.
I think the Canadian win is out. Sanders needs to run 2:39 if Frodo runs 2:45 just for a "tie".
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sylvan]
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TOP 10 Pro Men - Thru Run Split 1 - Ali'l Drive outbound - 2.93->2.93 mi
1 5:38:21 Jan Frodeno 17:25 5:57
2 5:38:22 0:01 Sebastian Kienle 17:23 5:56
3 5:38:56 0:36 Tim O'Donnell 17:38 6:01
4 5:39:11 0:50 Ben Hoffman 17:56 6:08
5 5:39:21 1:00 Andi Boecherer 18:01 6:09
6 5:39:49 1:29 Luke McKenzie 18:41 6:23
7 5:40:51 2:30 Boris Stein 19:14 6:34
8 5:43:00 4:40 Eneko Llanos 18:54 6:27
9 5:44:44 6:23 Marko Albert 19:17 6:35
10 5:45:42 7:22 Michael Weiss 20:10 6:53
11 5:46:01 7:40 Terenzo Bozzone 20:03 6:51
12 5:46:03 7:43 Lionel Sanders 18:15 6:14
Sanders not as fast as the top-5 but closing on the rest.
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1 5:38:21 Jan Frodeno 17:25 5:57
2 5:38:22 0:01 Sebastian Kienle 17:23 5:56
3 5:38:56 0:36 Tim O'Donnell 17:38 6:01
4 5:39:11 0:50 Ben Hoffman 17:56 6:08
5 5:39:21 1:00 Andi Boecherer 18:01 6:09
6 5:39:49 1:29 Luke McKenzie 18:41 6:23
7 5:40:51 2:30 Boris Stein 19:14 6:34
8 5:43:00 4:40 Eneko Llanos 18:54 6:27
9 5:44:44 6:23 Marko Albert 19:17 6:35
10 5:45:42 7:22 Michael Weiss 20:10 6:53
11 5:46:01 7:40 Terenzo Bozzone 20:03 6:51
12 5:46:03 7:43 Lionel Sanders 18:15 6:14
Sanders not as fast as the top-5 but closing on the rest.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
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Running German feed with Ironman talking in background. I don't speak German but the feed is faster and clearer.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sylvan]
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A guy driving on a motor bike almost took out the lead camera bike on the german feed. Would have thought the streets would be completely closed off.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sylvan]
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Pedro Gomes and Jan Van Berkel DNF after bike.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sylvan]
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sylvan wrote:
TOP 10 Pro Men - Thru Run Split 1 - Ali'l Drive outbound - 2.93->2.93 mi 1 5:38:21 Jan Frodeno 17:25 5:57
2 5:38:22 0:01 Sebastian Kienle 17:23 5:56
3 5:38:56 0:36 Tim O'Donnell 17:38 6:01
4 5:39:11 0:50 Ben Hoffman 17:56 6:08
5 5:39:21 1:00 Andi Boecherer 18:01 6:09
6 5:39:49 1:29 Luke McKenzie 18:41 6:23
7 5:40:51 2:30 Boris Stein 19:14 6:34
8 5:43:00 4:40 Eneko Llanos 18:54 6:27
9 5:44:44 6:23 Marko Albert 19:17 6:35
10 5:45:42 7:22 Michael Weiss 20:10 6:53
11 5:46:01 7:40 Terenzo Bozzone 20:03 6:51
12 5:46:03 7:43 Lionel Sanders 18:15 6:14
Sanders not as fast as the top-5 but closing on the rest.
I think Jan and Sebi will slow down a bit. The other guys will slow down a lot more. No way most of these guys keep up their 2:45 pace. Sanders is running at the crazy 2:35 pace that Frodo and Kienle are on. He's going to slow down too, but will be interesting to see the relative fades after they climb up Palani onto the QueenK.
Frodo's gotta be generating the most heat out of any of these guys with his size and speed.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sylvan]
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Where did Sanders officially rank on bike time?
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [alien]
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I'm fortunate to be on Ali'i Drive (no live weather station though) and it is a riveting race. I'll drop this in and try and keep it short.
Dan (and others):
We offered a free trial of Qollector to age group athletes. We are tracking participants on quarqrace.com so they get the race features such as age groups, favorites and ETA. We have around 100 participants. It is close to live. It updates every minute.
The pros are using competing technology. Both devices use cellular modems.
Qollector uses 3G AT&T cellular and we control the device's hardware and firmware, and the FUZE file transfers. There is a dead spot at Hawi. But at biking pace we get updates throughout the course elsewhere. We had two developers on the island for two weeks prior to last year's race learning about Qollector in Hawaii.
When you click into the Table on quarqrace.com you can click on a participant and it shows you when they were last seen. 1-60 secs or longer if they're out of service.
Dan (and others):
We offered a free trial of Qollector to age group athletes. We are tracking participants on quarqrace.com so they get the race features such as age groups, favorites and ETA. We have around 100 participants. It is close to live. It updates every minute.
The pros are using competing technology. Both devices use cellular modems.
Qollector uses 3G AT&T cellular and we control the device's hardware and firmware, and the FUZE file transfers. There is a dead spot at Hawi. But at biking pace we get updates throughout the course elsewhere. We had two developers on the island for two weeks prior to last year's race learning about Qollector in Hawaii.
When you click into the Table on quarqrace.com you can click on a participant and it shows you when they were last seen. 1-60 secs or longer if they're out of service.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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Mark and Dave were running slower. No one has ever run 2:35 pace at Kona or no one has run sub 2:40. //
Actually not true. If you listen to Dave and Mark talk about that run, they were going just over 5;30 pace right around where these guys are. There was a lot of attacking by dave in the first 15 miles and then it would settle down once mark caught up. I dont know how those two ran so fast doing it as a fartlek run, guess because they had to. We will see what these germans have to do..
Actually not true. If you listen to Dave and Mark talk about that run, they were going just over 5;30 pace right around where these guys are. There was a lot of attacking by dave in the first 15 miles and then it would settle down once mark caught up. I dont know how those two ran so fast doing it as a fartlek run, guess because they had to. We will see what these germans have to do..
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Tri-Banter]
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4th
TOP 10 Pro Men - Fastest Bike
1 4:23:05 Boris Stein
2 4:23:56 0:52 Sebastian Kienle
3 4:25:52 2:48 Michael Weiss
4 4:26:36 3:32 Lionel Sanders
5 4:27:56 4:52 Luke McKenzie
6 4:28:06 5:02 Ben Hoffman
7 4:28:07 5:03 Andi Boecherer
8 4:29:00 5:56 Jan Frodeno
9 4:29:11 6:07 Tim O'Donnell
10 4:30:48 7:44 Eneko Llanos
Train to race. Race to win.
TOP 10 Pro Men - Fastest Bike
1 4:23:05 Boris Stein
2 4:23:56 0:52 Sebastian Kienle
3 4:25:52 2:48 Michael Weiss
4 4:26:36 3:32 Lionel Sanders
5 4:27:56 4:52 Luke McKenzie
6 4:28:06 5:02 Ben Hoffman
7 4:28:07 5:03 Andi Boecherer
8 4:29:00 5:56 Jan Frodeno
9 4:29:11 6:07 Tim O'Donnell
10 4:30:48 7:44 Eneko Llanos
Train to race. Race to win.
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flyingirish: Oct 8, 16 15:17
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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TOP 10 Pro Women - Thru Bike Split 10 - 12.14->99.51 mi
1 5:12:25 Daniela Ryf 29:36 24.6
2 5:17:25 5:00 Anja Beranek 32:45 22.2
3 5:23:37 11:12 Meredith Kessler 33:10 22.0
4 5:23:39 11:14 Mary Beth Ellis 33:15 21.9
5 5:23:42 11:18 Annabel Luxford 33:19 21.9
6 5:25:33 13:09 Heather Jackson 31:41 23.0
7 5:26:27 14:02 Jodie Swallow 31:56 22.8
8 5:26:36 14:12 Michelle Vesterby 31:39 23.0
9 5:27:13 14:49 Melissa Hauschildt 32:30 22.4
10 5:28:01 15:37 Alicia Kaye 33:56 21.5
11 5:28:34 16:10 Camilla Pedersen 33:42 21.6
12 5:30:12 17:48 Tine Deckers 33:13 21.9
13 5:31:07 18:43 Carrie Lester 33:06 22.0
14 5:31:10 18:45 Yvonne Van Vlerken 34:10 21.3
15 5:31:12 18:47 Kaisa Lehtonen 33:42 21.6
16 5:31:14 18:49 Mirinda Carfrae 33:14 21.9
17 5:32:34 20:10 Heather Wurtele 32:46 22.2
18 5:33:00 20:36 Lucy Gossage 32:33 22.4
19 5:33:19 20:54 Leanda Cave 34:19 21.2
20 5:34:54 22:30 Sarah Piampiano 32:44 22.3
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [lacticturkey]
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did Dark Mark confirm?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [ElGordo]
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i was invited to the first several hoka "think tanks." i knew the frenchmen before they sold the company to deckers.
after my second or third think tank, the then-president of hoka pronounced the company "hoka-1-1." i then asked, officially, for the record, how is it pronounced? how are you pronouncing it? officially?
"hoka-1-1."
either ironman (hoka oh-nay oh-nay) didn't get that memo, or they've changed it back. it originally was oh-nay. it's a maori word. but deckers outdoor said, heck, fudge it, it's just 1-1. i'll find out if they've repented.
Dan Empfield
aka Slowman
after my second or third think tank, the then-president of hoka pronounced the company "hoka-1-1." i then asked, officially, for the record, how is it pronounced? how are you pronouncing it? officially?
"hoka-1-1."
either ironman (hoka oh-nay oh-nay) didn't get that memo, or they've changed it back. it originally was oh-nay. it's a maori word. but deckers outdoor said, heck, fudge it, it's just 1-1. i'll find out if they've repented.
Dan Empfield
aka Slowman
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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While you were away earlier, I said that today someone is going to crack 2:40 today.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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The Hoff is in an excellent position. He paced himself very well two years ago. Wonder if he can control himself as well in town on the run this year.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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Hoffmanns best chance for a win is for keinle and Frodo to race each other into the ground for 18-20 miles. WAYYY to early to make a call but I didn't like how quickly Keinle charged up to Frodo when he had that mishap at the aid station.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sylvan]
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Ryf won't get caught without a serious blow up. Rinny can still make the podium though. Ryf is looking very impressive.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sylvan]
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Pro Men - Thru Run Split 2 - Ali'i turnaround - 2.21->5.14 mi
1 5:51:36 Jan Frodeno 13:16 6:00
2 5:51:38 0:03 Sebastian Kienle 13:17 6:01
3 5:52:58 1:22 Ben Hoffman 13:48 6:15
4 5:53:20 1:44 Andi Boecherer 13:59 6:20
5 5:53:32 1:57 Tim O'Donnell 14:37 6:37
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1 5:51:36 Jan Frodeno 13:16 6:00
2 5:51:38 0:03 Sebastian Kienle 13:17 6:01
3 5:52:58 1:22 Ben Hoffman 13:48 6:15
4 5:53:20 1:44 Andi Boecherer 13:59 6:20
5 5:53:32 1:57 Tim O'Donnell 14:37 6:37
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sylvan]
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Rinnie would have to be a beast to pull back that much time.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Cup]
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Rfy=winner
Hoffman stalking the 2 who may run themselves into the ground. I'll still take the odds on Frodo.
Hoffman stalking the 2 who may run themselves into the ground. I'll still take the odds on Frodo.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
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monty wrote:
Mark and Dave were running slower. No one has ever run 2:35 pace at Kona or no one has run sub 2:40. // Actually not true. If you listen to Dave and Mark talk about that run, they were going just over 5;30 pace right around where these guys are. There was a lot of attacking by dave in the first 15 miles and then it would settle down once mark caught up. I dont know how those two ran so fast doing it as a fartlek run, guess because they had to. We will see what these germans have to do..
I watched the entire 89 race coverage on youtube (7 part series) and timed where they were and when. Dave and Mark are full of shit (the legends always get better with age0. They were going slower than 6 min miles early. Dave was jogging and Mark was shadowing him. Yes Dave surged a bunch of times from his slow pace and Mark matched him so he just settled in.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [troy@quarq]
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Hey Troy.... thanks for posting....
I'm considering buying a Qollector and would like to use it at Miami 70.3 in 2 weeks. Any chance the course could be loaded up for the race so my coach/friends/family can track me?
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I'm considering buying a Qollector and would like to use it at Miami 70.3 in 2 weeks. Any chance the course could be loaded up for the race so my coach/friends/family can track me?
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Team_Doc28]
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Ha, not yet
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Slowman]
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At 5k Kienle is now running in a straight line on the proper side of the aid station tables. He's improving. It's nice to see.
Ian
Ian
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [ajthomas]
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The germans are flying. Impressive.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sylvan]
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sylvan wrote:
Pro Men - Thru Run Split 2 - Ali'i turnaround - 2.21->5.14 mi 1 5:51:36 Jan Frodeno 13:16 6:00
2 5:51:38 0:03 Sebastian Kienle 13:17 6:01
3 5:52:58 1:22 Ben Hoffman 13:48 6:15
4 5:53:20 1:44 Andi Boecherer 13:59 6:20
5 5:53:32 1:57 Tim O'Donnell 14:37 6:37
Thx for all those run splits update!!!
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [dtoce]
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dtoce wrote:
Rfy=winner Hoffman stalking the 2 who may run themselves into the ground. I'll still take the odds on Frodo.
You might be right on that. I think Hoff is pacing quite well. The two in the front, one of them is likely going to take the win and the other guy will move backwards to 5th place at some point (but 1-2 would be better for me as a fan). I just think they are going way hard
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [ericM40-44]
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ericM40-44 wrote:
Tri-Banter wrote:
Speaking of 5 minutes, Ryf now 5 min up on Anja at 100 milesShe's going to go 8:30
Bahahaha she would have to run close to a mens run record.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [alien]
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What's the link to the german feed?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sylvan]
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Pro Men - Thru Run Split 2 - Ali'i turnaround - 2.21->5.14 mi
1 5:51:36 Jan Frodeno 13:16 6:00
2 5:51:38 0:03 Sebastian Kienle 13:17 6:01
3 5:52:58 1:22 Ben Hoffman 13:48 6:15
4 5:53:20 1:44 Andi Boecherer 13:59 6:20
5 5:53:32 1:57 Tim O'Donnell 14:37 6:37
6 5:55:10 3:34 Luke McKenzie 15:21 6:57
7 5:55:27 3:51 Boris Stein 14:37 6:37
8 5:58:17 6:42 Eneko Llanos 15:18 6:55
9 5:59:53 8:17 Marko Albert 15:09 6:52
10 6:00:01 8:25 Lionel Sanders 13:59 6:20
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1 5:51:36 Jan Frodeno 13:16 6:00
2 5:51:38 0:03 Sebastian Kienle 13:17 6:01
3 5:52:58 1:22 Ben Hoffman 13:48 6:15
4 5:53:20 1:44 Andi Boecherer 13:59 6:20
5 5:53:32 1:57 Tim O'Donnell 14:37 6:37
6 5:55:10 3:34 Luke McKenzie 15:21 6:57
7 5:55:27 3:51 Boris Stein 14:37 6:37
8 5:58:17 6:42 Eneko Llanos 15:18 6:55
9 5:59:53 8:17 Marko Albert 15:09 6:52
10 6:00:01 8:25 Lionel Sanders 13:59 6:20
Sylvan Smyth | http://www.sportstats.asia | sylvan@sportstats.asia | Starvas
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Slowman]
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Just a general comment.
It looks like many athletes could benefit from racing in Europe to get the matching.
(And of course this can change if other regions will be where the best are doing their racing).
My point, waiting to Kona to meet the best is maybe not the best strategy.
It looks like many athletes could benefit from racing in Europe to get the matching.
(And of course this can change if other regions will be where the best are doing their racing).
My point, waiting to Kona to meet the best is maybe not the best strategy.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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Although unlikely, I hope they prove you wrong and race each other until the very last mile.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [MTL]
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MTL wrote:
sylvan wrote:
Pro Men - Thru Run Split 2 - Ali'i turnaround - 2.21->5.14 mi 1 5:51:36 Jan Frodeno 13:16 6:00
2 5:51:38 0:03 Sebastian Kienle 13:17 6:01
3 5:52:58 1:22 Ben Hoffman 13:48 6:15
4 5:53:20 1:44 Andi Boecherer 13:59 6:20
5 5:53:32 1:57 Tim O'Donnell 14:37 6:37
Thx for all those run splits update!!!
Hoffman's 2:42 pace sounds more sustainable. Let's see. Sylvan, can you post Sander's 5.14 mile split when you get it?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [aerobike]
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Slowman]
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Slowman wrote:
i was invited to the first several hoka "think tanks." i knew the frenchmen before they sold the company to deckers. after my second or third think tank, the then-president of hoka pronounced the company "hoka-1-1." i then asked, officially, for the record, how is it pronounced? how are you pronouncing it? officially?
"hoka-1-1."
either ironman (hoka oh-nay oh-nay) didn't get that memo, or they've changed it back. it originally was oh-nay. it's a maori word. but deckers outdoor said, heck, fudge it, it's just 1-1. i'll find out if they've repented.
My wife called them once for a warranty issue and they answered the phone as Hoka oh-nay oh-nay.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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Watching Jan run a 6 min/mile pace looks so easy and effortless.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [frenchieTT]
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How many pro guys is Ryf going to chick?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Zenmaster28]
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I'm very impressed that Ryf has held 5 minutes back from the boys.
Wow...
Wow...
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Halvard]
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Halvard wrote:
aerobike wrote:
What's the link to the german feed?http://hessenschau.de/...-livestream-100.html
Thanks!
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [frenchieTT]
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frenchieTT wrote:
How many pro guys is Ryf going to chick?hahahah
LOTS
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [dtoce]
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Good chance for Heather Jackson to make the podium. Anyone know the 2d place woman's normal marathon time?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Cup]
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Cup wrote:
Good chance for Heather Jackson to make the podium. Anyone know the 2d place woman's normal marathon time?she'll get third-definitely, but the question is can she close to second?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Cup]
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Splits/paces are all bang on this year - I know that hasn't always been the case at all races necessarily...
Pro Men - Thru Run Split 3 - Ali'i Drive inbound - 2.22->7.36 mi
1 6:04:56 Jan Frodeno 13:21 6:01
2 6:04:57 0:01 Sebastian Kienle 13:19 6:00
3 6:07:14 2:18 Ben Hoffman 14:17 6:26
4 6:07:20 2:24 Andi Boecherer 14:01 6:19
5 6:08:28 3:32 Tim O'Donnell 14:56 6:44
Pro Men - Thru Run Split 2 - Ali'i turnaround - 2.21->5.14 mi
1 5:51:36 Jan Frodeno 13:16 6:00
2 5:51:38 0:03 Sebastian Kienle 13:17 6:01
3 5:52:58 1:22 Ben Hoffman 13:48 6:15
4 5:53:20 1:44 Andi Boecherer 13:59 6:20
5 5:53:32 1:57 Tim O'Donnell 14:37 6:37
6 5:55:10 3:34 Luke McKenzie 15:21 6:57
7 5:55:27 3:51 Boris Stein 14:37 6:37
8 5:58:17 6:42 Eneko Llanos 15:18 6:55
9 5:59:53 8:17 Marko Albert 15:09 6:52
10 6:00:01 8:25 Lionel Sanders 13:59 6:20
11 6:00:34 8:58 Andy Potts 13:33 6:08
12 6:00:36 9:00 Terenzo Bozzone 14:35 6:36
13 6:01:12 9:36 Frederik Van Lierde 14:07 6:23
14 6:02:23 10:47 Patrick Lange 13:25 6:04
15 6:02:52 11:16 David Plese 14:55 6:45
16 6:03:32 11:57 Brent McMahon 14:09 6:24
17 6:03:42 12:06 Ivan Rana 13:56 6:18
18 6:04:02 12:26 Bart Aernouts 13:55 6:18
19 6:04:23 12:47 James Cunnama 14:05 6:23
20 6:04:23 12:47 Cyril Viennot 14:46 6:41
21 6:04:44 13:08 Matt Russell 14:16 6:28
22 6:04:52 13:16 Ruedi Wild 14:07 6:24
23 6:04:58 13:22 Michael Weiss 19:16 8:43
24 6:04:58 13:22 Kyle Buckingham 14:21 6:30
25 6:05:04 13:28 Jesse Thomas 14:08 6:24
26 6:06:08 14:32 Christian Kramer 14:51 6:43
27 6:06:14 14:38 David Dellow 14:31 6:34
28 6:06:23 14:47 Ronnie Schildknecht 14:29 6:33
29 6:06:40 15:04 Jordan Rapp 15:05 6:50
30 6:07:20 15:45 Kirill Kotsegarov 14:56 6:46
Sylvan Smyth | http://www.sportstats.asia | sylvan@sportstats.asia | Starvas
Pro Men - Thru Run Split 3 - Ali'i Drive inbound - 2.22->7.36 mi
1 6:04:56 Jan Frodeno 13:21 6:01
2 6:04:57 0:01 Sebastian Kienle 13:19 6:00
3 6:07:14 2:18 Ben Hoffman 14:17 6:26
4 6:07:20 2:24 Andi Boecherer 14:01 6:19
5 6:08:28 3:32 Tim O'Donnell 14:56 6:44
Pro Men - Thru Run Split 2 - Ali'i turnaround - 2.21->5.14 mi
1 5:51:36 Jan Frodeno 13:16 6:00
2 5:51:38 0:03 Sebastian Kienle 13:17 6:01
3 5:52:58 1:22 Ben Hoffman 13:48 6:15
4 5:53:20 1:44 Andi Boecherer 13:59 6:20
5 5:53:32 1:57 Tim O'Donnell 14:37 6:37
6 5:55:10 3:34 Luke McKenzie 15:21 6:57
7 5:55:27 3:51 Boris Stein 14:37 6:37
8 5:58:17 6:42 Eneko Llanos 15:18 6:55
9 5:59:53 8:17 Marko Albert 15:09 6:52
10 6:00:01 8:25 Lionel Sanders 13:59 6:20
11 6:00:34 8:58 Andy Potts 13:33 6:08
12 6:00:36 9:00 Terenzo Bozzone 14:35 6:36
13 6:01:12 9:36 Frederik Van Lierde 14:07 6:23
14 6:02:23 10:47 Patrick Lange 13:25 6:04
15 6:02:52 11:16 David Plese 14:55 6:45
16 6:03:32 11:57 Brent McMahon 14:09 6:24
17 6:03:42 12:06 Ivan Rana 13:56 6:18
18 6:04:02 12:26 Bart Aernouts 13:55 6:18
19 6:04:23 12:47 James Cunnama 14:05 6:23
20 6:04:23 12:47 Cyril Viennot 14:46 6:41
21 6:04:44 13:08 Matt Russell 14:16 6:28
22 6:04:52 13:16 Ruedi Wild 14:07 6:24
23 6:04:58 13:22 Michael Weiss 19:16 8:43
24 6:04:58 13:22 Kyle Buckingham 14:21 6:30
25 6:05:04 13:28 Jesse Thomas 14:08 6:24
26 6:06:08 14:32 Christian Kramer 14:51 6:43
27 6:06:14 14:38 David Dellow 14:31 6:34
28 6:06:23 14:47 Ronnie Schildknecht 14:29 6:33
29 6:06:40 15:04 Jordan Rapp 15:05 6:50
30 6:07:20 15:45 Kirill Kotsegarov 14:56 6:46
Sylvan Smyth | http://www.sportstats.asia | sylvan@sportstats.asia | Starvas
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sylvan]
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thanks for the splits
Rinny? Go girl!
Third is possible...
Rinny? Go girl!
Third is possible...
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sylvan]
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Boecherer passed Hoff..... easily....
Pro Men - Thru Run Split 3 - Ali'i Drive inbound - 2.22->7.36 mi
1 6:04:56 Jan Frodeno 13:21 6:01
2 6:04:57 0:01 Sebastian Kienle 13:19 6:00
3 6:07:14 2:18 Ben Hoffman 14:17 6:26
4 6:07:20 2:24 Andi Boecherer 14:01 6:19
5 6:08:28 3:32 Tim O'Donnell 14:56 6:44
Pro Men - Thru Run Split 2 - Ali'i turnaround - 2.21->5.14 mi
1 5:51:36 Jan Frodeno 13:16 6:00
2 5:51:38 0:03 Sebastian Kienle 13:17 6:01
3 5:52:58 1:22 Ben Hoffman 13:48 6:15
4 5:53:20 1:44 Andi Boecherer 13:59 6:20
5 5:53:32 1:57 Tim O'Donnell 14:37 6:37
6 5:55:10 3:34 Luke McKenzie 15:21 6:57
7 5:55:27 3:51 Boris Stein 14:37 6:37
8 5:58:17 6:42 Eneko Llanos 15:18 6:55
9 5:59:53 8:17 Marko Albert 15:09 6:52
10 6:00:01 8:25 Lionel Sanders 13:59 6:20
11 6:00:34 8:58 Andy Potts 13:33 6:08
12 6:00:36 9:00 Terenzo Bozzone 14:35 6:36
13 6:01:12 9:36 Frederik Van Lierde 14:07 6:23
14 6:02:23 10:47 Patrick Lange 13:25 6:04
15 6:02:52 11:16 David Plese 14:55 6:45
16 6:03:32 11:57 Brent McMahon 14:09 6:24
17 6:03:42 12:06 Ivan Rana 13:56 6:18
18 6:04:02 12:26 Bart Aernouts 13:55 6:18
19 6:04:23 12:47 James Cunnama 14:05 6:23
20 6:04:23 12:47 Cyril Viennot 14:46 6:41
21 6:04:44 13:08 Matt Russell 14:16 6:28
22 6:04:52 13:16 Ruedi Wild 14:07 6:24
23 6:04:58 13:22 Michael Weiss 19:16 8:43
24 6:04:58 13:22 Kyle Buckingham 14:21 6:30
25 6:05:04 13:28 Jesse Thomas 14:08 6:24
26 6:06:08 14:32 Christian Kramer 14:51 6:43
27 6:06:14 14:38 David Dellow 14:31 6:34
28 6:06:23 14:47 Ronnie Schildknecht 14:29 6:33
29 6:06:40 15:04 Jordan Rapp 15:05 6:50
30 6:07:20 15:45 Kirill Kotsegarov 14:56 6:46
sylvan wrote:
Splits/paces are all bang on this year - I know that hasn't always been the case at all races necessarily... Pro Men - Thru Run Split 3 - Ali'i Drive inbound - 2.22->7.36 mi
1 6:04:56 Jan Frodeno 13:21 6:01
2 6:04:57 0:01 Sebastian Kienle 13:19 6:00
3 6:07:14 2:18 Ben Hoffman 14:17 6:26
4 6:07:20 2:24 Andi Boecherer 14:01 6:19
5 6:08:28 3:32 Tim O'Donnell 14:56 6:44
Pro Men - Thru Run Split 2 - Ali'i turnaround - 2.21->5.14 mi
1 5:51:36 Jan Frodeno 13:16 6:00
2 5:51:38 0:03 Sebastian Kienle 13:17 6:01
3 5:52:58 1:22 Ben Hoffman 13:48 6:15
4 5:53:20 1:44 Andi Boecherer 13:59 6:20
5 5:53:32 1:57 Tim O'Donnell 14:37 6:37
6 5:55:10 3:34 Luke McKenzie 15:21 6:57
7 5:55:27 3:51 Boris Stein 14:37 6:37
8 5:58:17 6:42 Eneko Llanos 15:18 6:55
9 5:59:53 8:17 Marko Albert 15:09 6:52
10 6:00:01 8:25 Lionel Sanders 13:59 6:20
11 6:00:34 8:58 Andy Potts 13:33 6:08
12 6:00:36 9:00 Terenzo Bozzone 14:35 6:36
13 6:01:12 9:36 Frederik Van Lierde 14:07 6:23
14 6:02:23 10:47 Patrick Lange 13:25 6:04
15 6:02:52 11:16 David Plese 14:55 6:45
16 6:03:32 11:57 Brent McMahon 14:09 6:24
17 6:03:42 12:06 Ivan Rana 13:56 6:18
18 6:04:02 12:26 Bart Aernouts 13:55 6:18
19 6:04:23 12:47 James Cunnama 14:05 6:23
20 6:04:23 12:47 Cyril Viennot 14:46 6:41
21 6:04:44 13:08 Matt Russell 14:16 6:28
22 6:04:52 13:16 Ruedi Wild 14:07 6:24
23 6:04:58 13:22 Michael Weiss 19:16 8:43
24 6:04:58 13:22 Kyle Buckingham 14:21 6:30
25 6:05:04 13:28 Jesse Thomas 14:08 6:24
26 6:06:08 14:32 Christian Kramer 14:51 6:43
27 6:06:14 14:38 David Dellow 14:31 6:34
28 6:06:23 14:47 Ronnie Schildknecht 14:29 6:33
29 6:06:40 15:04 Jordan Rapp 15:05 6:50
30 6:07:20 15:45 Kirill Kotsegarov 14:56 6:46
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [windschatten]
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All german podium this year for the men?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [frenchieTT]
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frenchieTT wrote:
All german podium this year for the men?R you betting Ben H falters??
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [windschatten]
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [frenchieTT]
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Germans 1,2,and 3!!! And Potts seems to be running well, actually out running Lionel. Potts for my dark horse pick!!
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sylvan]
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sylvan wrote:
Raelert DNF mile 5He has bad luck at this race....
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [frenchieTT]
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Remember when Rinny was only 6 minutes down?
Neither does she. Now at 22+ back. She'll be hard pressed for a podium spot. I wonder if her record will drop today. Is 8:52 in Daniela's cards?
Take a short break from ST and read my blog:
http://tri-banter.blogspot.com/
Neither does she. Now at 22+ back. She'll be hard pressed for a podium spot. I wonder if her record will drop today. Is 8:52 in Daniela's cards?
Take a short break from ST and read my blog:
http://tri-banter.blogspot.com/
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
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And Frodo just broke Kienle.
Train to race. Race to win.
Train to race. Race to win.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [dtoce]
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German, USA, Canada podium.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sylvan]
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THANKS for posting.
I have to say that following Kona with the German feed, twitter and ST is great.
I love endurance sport.
I have to say that following Kona with the German feed, twitter and ST is great.
I love endurance sport.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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I'm picking Potts for 3rd.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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flyingirish wrote:
And Frodo just broke Kienle.http://www.PatGriskusTri.com USAT Certified Race Director
2024 Races: USAT State of CT Age Group Championship/State of CT HS Champs/ CT Club Championship - Sat June 15th (Oly/Du/Sprint) Hopkins Vineyard Tri at Lake Waramaug Saturday July 13th http://www.HopkinsVineyardTri.com
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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flyingirish wrote:
And Frodo just broke Kienle.That's telling when the bigger guy breaks the smaller guy on that gradual incline. Next up is the Palani climb. will be interesting to see the delta at the top
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Halvard]
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For next year I want to see Donald Trump as the celebrity athlete
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [dtoce]
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dtoce wrote:
Cup wrote:
Good chance for Heather Jackson to make the podium. Anyone know the 2d place woman's normal marathon time?she'll get third-definitely, but the question is can she close to second?
She runs very well. I think she can get 2nd. Go Heather!
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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Lionel Sanders averaged 299 watts for the 4th fastest bike split. Now if he could be just a bit more aero.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [dtoce]
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Frodo surging before Palani?
Swim - ( x ) All good ( ) In the shop
Bike - ( x ) All good ( ) In the shop
Run - ( ) All good ( x ) In the shop
Swim - ( x ) All good ( ) In the shop
Bike - ( x ) All good ( ) In the shop
Run - ( ) All good ( x ) In the shop
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Halvard]
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Halvard wrote:
For next year I want to see Donald Trump as the celebrity athlete
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Twilkas]
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Twilkas wrote:
flyingirish wrote:
And Frodo just broke Kienle.Don't think so. Frodeno may have made the move just now
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Twilkas]
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Resting would be drafting on his hip or right behind. Not with a gap that is growing.
Train to race. Race to win.
Train to race. Race to win.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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I wouldn't say he broke him but the elastic is getting really thin in spots. Imagine he will get back on after recovering from the hill a bit.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Slowman]
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Slowman wrote:
"wrong…..how many times you race there? fast one way and slow the other every year….monty swim expert? :)" pink. right?
That was Monty's "So, have ever actually ridden a fixed gear?" moment ;-)
http://bikeblather.blogspot.com/
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [BMANX]
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Quote:
Lionel Sanders averaged 299 watts for the 4th fastest bike split. Now if he could be just a bit more aero.or swim.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [BMANX]
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BMANX wrote:
Lionel Sanders averaged 299 watts for the 4th fastest bike split. Now if he could be just a bit more aero.
How can you ride 299 W at his size (not that big) and only ride 4:26. His aero does not seem that bad. Do you guys think his powertap pedals read high?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [GrahamK]
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Kienle is going to blow trying to keep up with Frodo and he is going to take himself off the podium at that rate.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [BMANX]
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BMANX wrote:
Kienle is going to blow trying to keep up with Frodo and he is going to take himself off the podium at that rate.
Exactly what I was thinking, Ben looks like a good pick for 2nd now.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [BMANX]
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BMANX wrote:
Kienle is going to blow trying to keep up with Frodo and he is going to take himself off the podium at that rate.
That is what I was thinking. One of them takes the win, the other guy slides back to 5th place. But even Frodo could take himself off the podium running 6 min miles. He's human too and he's generating a ton of heat.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [BMANX]
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BMANX wrote:
Kienle is going to blow trying to keep up with Frodo and he is going to take himself off the podium at that rate.
I agree with that assessment
kaboom! (in a few miles...)
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Twilkas]
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Still resting at 15 seconds back?
Train to race. Race to win.
Train to race. Race to win.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Tri-Banter]
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Tri-Banter wrote:
Remember when Rinny was only 6 minutes down? Neither does she. Now at 22+ back. She'll be hard pressed for a podium spot. I wonder if her record will drop today. Is 8:52 in Daniela's cards?
8:52? Isnt the course record Wellingtons 8:45 in 2009?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [dtoce]
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dtoce wrote:
BMANX wrote:
Kienle is going to blow trying to keep up with Frodo and he is going to take himself off the podium at that rate.
I agree with that assessment
kaboom! (in a few miles...)
Kaboom now! He's way back now!
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [mattr]
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mattr wrote:
I'm picking Potts for 3rd.Sylvan Smyth | http://www.sportstats.asia | sylvan@sportstats.asia | Starvas
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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God damn you can tell long course Triathlon is a third string sport with the piss poor coverage, more adds than racing.
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TriguyBlue: Oct 8, 16 15:52
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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Certainly looks like it....
gained a seizable gap on Palani.
gained a seizable gap on Palani.
flyingirish wrote:
And Frodo just broke Kienle.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [TriguyBlue]
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German feed for the video. no ads
Train to race. Race to win.
Train to race. Race to win.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [BMANX]
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The elastic has snapped, now just hope he managed his efforts well enough to keep up around 6;30 pace, that ought to get him 2nd still.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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devashish_paul wrote:
BMANX wrote:
Lionel Sanders averaged 299 watts for the 4th fastest bike split. Now if he could be just a bit more aero.
How can you ride 299 W at his size (not that big) and only ride 4:26. His aero does not seem that bad. Do you guys think his powertap pedals read high?
I have p1 pedals 19.01 for 9 miles at 295 watts (175lbs - 6'1) - something def look funky with his numbers
The entire event (IM) is like "death by 1000 cuts" and the best race is minimizing all those cuts and losing less blood than the other guy. - Dev
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [snaaijert]
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snaaijert wrote:
Tri-Banter wrote:
Remember when Rinny was only 6 minutes down? Neither does she. Now at 22+ back. She'll be hard pressed for a podium spot. I wonder if her record will drop today. Is 8:52 in Daniela's cards?
8:52? Isnt the course record Wellingtons 8:45 in 2009?
Rinny's only hope is Ryf's dual sub 9's 1 week apart this summer come back to bite her late in the run and she walks. I'm not ruling that out totally, but Ryf has such a ridiculous buffer, she can just jog as long as she avoids walking.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [rodchaves31]
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Potts passed Sanders so maybe Potts does make it to third. A few of the guys in the top 8 are fading fast while other behind are climbing fast.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [BMANX]
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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flyingirish wrote:
Resting would be drafting on his hip or right behind. Not with a gap that is growing.http://www.PatGriskusTri.com USAT Certified Race Director
2024 Races: USAT State of CT Age Group Championship/State of CT HS Champs/ CT Club Championship - Sat June 15th (Oly/Du/Sprint) Hopkins Vineyard Tri at Lake Waramaug Saturday July 13th http://www.HopkinsVineyardTri.com
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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flyingirish wrote:
German feed for the video. no adsWhere is the German feed ?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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Actually Ryf took her sweet time for a Dixie stop....
Neither does she. Now at 22+ back. She'll be hard pressed for a podium spot. I wonder if her record will drop today. Is 8:52 in Daniela's cards?
8:52? Isnt the course record Wellingtons 8:45 in 2009?
Rinny's only hope is Ryf's dual sub 9's 1 week apart this summer come back to bite her late in the run and she walks. I'm not ruling that out totally, but Ryf has such a ridiculous buffer, she can just jog as long as she avoids walking.
devashish_paul wrote:
snaaijert wrote:
Tri-Banter wrote:
Remember when Rinny was only 6 minutes down? Neither does she. Now at 22+ back. She'll be hard pressed for a podium spot. I wonder if her record will drop today. Is 8:52 in Daniela's cards?
8:52? Isnt the course record Wellingtons 8:45 in 2009?
Rinny's only hope is Ryf's dual sub 9's 1 week apart this summer come back to bite her late in the run and she walks. I'm not ruling that out totally, but Ryf has such a ridiculous buffer, she can just jog as long as she avoids walking.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [TriguyBlue]
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [BMANX]
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Welchie struggling to correctly introduce the multitude of sponsors.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sylvan]
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Eisenkrieg
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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devashish_paul wrote:
BMANX wrote:
Lionel Sanders averaged 299 watts for the 4th fastest bike split. Now if he could be just a bit more aero.
How can you ride 299 W at his size (not that big) and only ride 4:26. His aero does not seem that bad. Do you guys think his powertap pedals read high?
Weiss rode the same split on 318 NP.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [ffips]
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ffips wrote:
Is this kit Faris approved?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [snaaijert]
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8:52? Isnt the course record Wellingtons 8:45 in 2009?
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Nope. Blame your dyslexia. Chrissie went 8:54 in 2009. Rinny has both the course record of 8:52 and the run course record of 2:50, both set in 2013.
Take a short break from ST and read my blog:
http://tri-banter.blogspot.com/
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Nope. Blame your dyslexia. Chrissie went 8:54 in 2009. Rinny has both the course record of 8:52 and the run course record of 2:50, both set in 2013.
Take a short break from ST and read my blog:
http://tri-banter.blogspot.com/
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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flyingirish wrote:
German feed for the video. no adsbut I love hearing about Hoka-one-one (onay-onay or one-one?) and zoot...
I DO love them both, just saying'
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Twilkas]
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Still a long ways to go. Frodo is a good runner but plenty of race left and you just never know!
Train to race. Race to win.
Train to race. Race to win.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [windschatten]
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At a minimum, there should be a running leaderboard during the live feed. Maybe something scrolling along the bottom like in golf.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [dtoce]
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I have the german feed streamed onto the tv via appleTV on mute and the audio from the IM feed going at the same time. works well.
Train to race. Race to win.
Train to race. Race to win.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Cup]
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Cup wrote:
At a minimum, there should be a running leaderboard during the live feed. Maybe something scrolling along the bottom like in golf.that would be EXCELLENT
maybe people will take notice of this excellent suggestion
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Tri-Banter]
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Tri-Banter wrote:
8:52? Isnt the course record Wellingtons 8:45 in 2009? ---
Nope. Blame your dyslexia. Chrissie went 8:54 in 2009. Rinny has both the course record of 8:52 and the run course record of 2:50, both set in 2013.
Dyslexia? I saw it on a website somewhere, it was wrong apparently. Nothing dyslexic about it mate.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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hoff is 30 seconds down from the guy in front of him-time to turn the screws and close the gap..
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Cup]
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Lange now the fastest man in the race.
Pro Men - Thru Run Split 4 - Palani uphill - 2.84->10.20 mi
1 6:22:27 Jan Frodeno 17:31 6:10
2 6:22:30 0:03 Sebastian Kienle 17:33 6:11
3 6:25:25 2:59 Andi Boecherer 18:05 6:23
4 6:25:51 3:25 Ben Hoffman 18:37 6:34
5 6:26:43 4:17 Tim O'Donnell 18:16 6:26
6 6:28:42 6:16 Boris Stein 18:53 6:39
7 6:32:24 9:58 Andy Potts 18:18 6:27
8 6:32:49 10:23 Lionel Sanders 18:33 6:32
9 6:32:58 10:32 Patrick Lange 17:15 6:05
10 6:33:03 10:37 Luke McKenzie 21:33 7:35
11 6:33:08 10:42 Frederik Van Lierde 18:04 6:22
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Pro Men - Thru Run Split 4 - Palani uphill - 2.84->10.20 mi
1 6:22:27 Jan Frodeno 17:31 6:10
2 6:22:30 0:03 Sebastian Kienle 17:33 6:11
3 6:25:25 2:59 Andi Boecherer 18:05 6:23
4 6:25:51 3:25 Ben Hoffman 18:37 6:34
5 6:26:43 4:17 Tim O'Donnell 18:16 6:26
6 6:28:42 6:16 Boris Stein 18:53 6:39
7 6:32:24 9:58 Andy Potts 18:18 6:27
8 6:32:49 10:23 Lionel Sanders 18:33 6:32
9 6:32:58 10:32 Patrick Lange 17:15 6:05
10 6:33:03 10:37 Luke McKenzie 21:33 7:35
11 6:33:08 10:42 Frederik Van Lierde 18:04 6:22
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [snaaijert]
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Breathe. It was more of a comment on 8:45--> 8:54. Not trying to attack.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [dtoce]
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dtoce wrote:
Cup wrote:
At a minimum, there should be a running leaderboard during the live feed. Maybe something scrolling along the bottom like in golf.that would be EXCELLENT
maybe people will take notice of this excellent suggestion
+1
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [dtoce]
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All right - the winners seem set already but you just never know. I don't like how Reif looks.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [snaaijert]
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snaaijert wrote:
devashish_paul wrote:
BMANX wrote:
Lionel Sanders averaged 299 watts for the 4th fastest bike split. Now if he could be just a bit more aero.
How can you ride 299 W at his size (not that big) and only ride 4:26. His aero does not seem that bad. Do you guys think his powertap pedals read high?
Weiss rode the same split on 318 NP.
That's bad news for Diamondback. They needed a big day. Doesn't make the bike look too good.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [ajthomas]
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ajthomas wrote:
All right - the winners seem set already but you just never know. I don't like how Reif looks.She's got a lot of cushion. I wanted Rinny to win but now her battle is for 3rd
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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flyingirish wrote:
http://hessenschau.de/sport/mehr-sport/live---der-ironman-hawaii-im-social-tv,ironman-hawaii-livestream-100.htmlSweet, much better picture.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Tri-Banter]
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Tri-Banter wrote:
Breathe. It was more of a comment on 8:45--> 8:54. Not trying to attack.Ah i see it now. Just so you know, the word you'd use in that instance is discalculia, not dyslexia ;)
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sylvan]
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Looks like Sanders is picking it up again. Looks like he had a bad patch.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Cup]
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Cup wrote:
At a minimum, there should be a running leaderboard during the live feed. Maybe something scrolling along the bottom like in golf.Agreed, that is stupid. With the GPS trackers this should be easy to generate.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Tri-Banter]
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Nope. Blame your dyslexia. Chrissie went 8:54 in 2009. Rinny has both the course record of 8:52 and the run course record of 2:50, both set in 2013.
Well those were all on the old course, not this new shorter swim one. So all records now have to have an * next to them. This is exactly why I did not want them to shorten the swim, it trickles down to the actual finish times too..
Well those were all on the old course, not this new shorter swim one. So all records now have to have an * next to them. This is exactly why I did not want them to shorten the swim, it trickles down to the actual finish times too..
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sylvan]
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Pro Men - Thru Run Split 4 - Palani uphill - 2.84->10.20 mi
1 6:22:27 Jan Frodeno 17:31 6:10
2 6:22:30 0:03 Sebastian Kienle 17:33 6:11
3 6:25:25 2:59 Andi Boecherer 18:05 6:23
4 6:25:51 3:25 Ben Hoffman 18:37 6:34
5 6:26:43 4:17 Tim O'Donnell 18:16 6:26
6 6:28:42 6:16 Boris Stein 18:53 6:39
7 6:32:24 9:58 Andy Potts 18:18 6:27
8 6:32:49 10:23 Lionel Sanders 18:33 6:32
9 6:32:58 10:32 Patrick Lange 17:15 6:05
10 6:33:03 10:37 Luke McKenzie 21:33 7:35
11 6:33:08 10:42 Frederik Van Lierde 18:04 6:22
12 6:34:04 11:38 Eneko Llanos 20:01 7:03
13 6:34:59 12:33 Marko Albert 19:58 7:02
14 6:35:38 13:12 Brent McMahon 18:10 6:24
15 6:35:43 13:17 Terenzo Bozzone 20:13 7:08
16 6:35:47 13:21 Bart Aernouts 18:05 6:22
17 6:36:10 13:44 Ivan Rana 18:34 6:33
18 6:37:10 14:43 James Cunnama 18:39 6:34
19 6:37:42 15:16 Matt Russell 18:46 6:37
20 6:37:46 15:19 Jesse Thomas 18:33 6:32
21 6:37:46 15:20 Cyril Viennot 18:31 6:32
22 6:37:52 15:25 David Plese 19:46 6:58
23 6:38:30 16:04 Ruedi Wild 19:19 6:48
24 6:38:33 16:07 Kyle Buckingham 19:07 6:44
25 6:39:45 17:19 David Dellow 18:46 6:37
26 6:40:12 17:46 Ronnie Schildknecht 19:01 6:42
27 6:41:26 19:00 Kirill Kotsegarov 19:14 6:47
28 6:41:27 19:01 Denis Chevrot 19:08 6:45
29 6:41:32 19:06 Christian Kramer 20:02 7:03
30 6:42:15 19:48 Jordan Rapp 20:12 7:07
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
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Suppose that Ryf goes a 8:50. Would that be a non-asterisked performance?
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
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So if the swim was "LONG" and the swim is now accurate, then would that not mean that a record set now would be "THE RECORD" Saying the swim is "short" is not an accurate statement if the old one was long.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sylvan]
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Everyone remember Patric Lange? I do and now he is running into contention with the fastest pace. Didn't he run 2;41 on a hot day all alone? Hell, Germans could get the top 4 spots if this keeps up..
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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They used to have a Leaderboard option in the Athlete Tracker, that would return athletes in order of their place. Seems to be gone, so no way to know current place as of latest run mats. Pretty sorry. But, at least they have estimated finish time, thank goodness for that.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sylvan]
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Pro Men - Thru Run Split 5 - Hina Lani outbound heading to Energy Lab - 3.64->13.84 mi
1 6:45:06 Jan Frodeno 22:39 6:14
2 6:46:35 1:30 Sebastian Kienle 24:06 6:38
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1 6:45:06 Jan Frodeno 22:39 6:14
2 6:46:35 1:30 Sebastian Kienle 24:06 6:38
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Tri-Banter]
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If the swim is accurate now then any records set as of this year are the record and any records before that should have the asterisks next to them as LONG!
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [BMANX]
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Is anyone else just getting a big kurze pause on the German feed?
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [BMANX]
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So if the swim was "LONG" and the swim is now accurate, then would that not mean that a record set now would be "THE RECORD" Saying the swim is "short" is not an accurate statement if the old one was long. //
I dont know if it was long or not, but I do know the course record. Even if it was a few meters long, dont think it was a good idea to change it after 35 years of being the same exact swim. It is not like ironman is some certified distance that everyone can relate to, it is not the marathon or 10k. It is just what most RD's cars odometers get while driving, or some point they got on a gps for the swim. It has never been exact in any form or function, so I just didn't see the need to fuck with the tradition of the Kona swim, thats all.
I dont know if it was long or not, but I do know the course record. Even if it was a few meters long, dont think it was a good idea to change it after 35 years of being the same exact swim. It is not like ironman is some certified distance that everyone can relate to, it is not the marathon or 10k. It is just what most RD's cars odometers get while driving, or some point they got on a gps for the swim. It has never been exact in any form or function, so I just didn't see the need to fuck with the tradition of the Kona swim, thats all.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [BMANX]
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Would be nice to have any idea on how the women's marathon is going. All we know is the first mile times... the women's run is probably the most interesting aspect right now. Is Ryf's pace fading?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Tri-Banter]
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its back.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Tri-Banter]
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Tri-Banter wrote:
Is anyone else just getting a big kurze pause on the German feed?I got that earlier and switched back to the IM feed.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Tri-Banter]
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [alien]
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Frodo is beast, if he can hold this pace-or even slow reasonably
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [alien]
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Excuse my ignorance. Who is Bryan McCrystal of Ireland M35-39 biking a 4:29 after a :59 swim?!?!
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Tri-Banter]
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German coverage is back. They switched broadcast stations.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Sweeney]
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From the footage I saw the bike looked like it was getting blown around a lot more than the others. I would have been thinking, "Get me off this thing!!!!"
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sylvan]
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OP 7 Pro Men - Thru Run Split 5 - Hina Lani outbound heading to Energy Lab - 13.84 mi
1 6:45:06 Jan Frodeno
2 6:46:35 1:30 Sebastian Kienle
3 6:49:52 4:47 Andi Boecherer
4 6:50:01 4:56 Ben Hoffman
5 6:51:03 5:58 Tim O'Donnell
6 6:53:34 8:29 Boris Stein
7 6:55:21 10:16 Patrick Lange
1 6:45:06 Jan Frodeno
2 6:46:35 1:30 Sebastian Kienle
3 6:49:52 4:47 Andi Boecherer
4 6:50:01 4:56 Ben Hoffman
5 6:51:03 5:58 Tim O'Donnell
6 6:53:34 8:29 Boris Stein
7 6:55:21 10:16 Patrick Lange
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [irontri]
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irontri wrote:
Excuse my ignorance. Who is Bryan McCrystal of Ireland M35-39 biking a 4:29 after a :59 swim?!?!Top age grouper
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [irontri]
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Where's Lionel?
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sylvan]
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Do you have the women's splits to share?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Slowman]
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Sweeney]
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [alien]
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alien wrote:
From the footage I saw the bike looked like it was getting blown around a lot more than the others. I would have been thinking, "Get me off this thing!!!!"I thought the same thing!
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [alien]
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I saw that too... and I was thinking about getting one just because I thought it looked cool.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [instigator]
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instigator wrote:
Do you have the women's splits to share?Only three women through 7.36 miles:
1 6:38:22 Daniela Ryf
2 6:51:01 12:39 Anja Beranek
3 6:54:16 15:54 Heather Jackson
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [alien]
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alien wrote:
From the footage I saw the bike looked like it was getting blown around a lot more than the others. I would have been thinking, "Get me off this thing!!!!"It looked horrible, i thought he was going to come off.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [GreenPlease]
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Maybe they didn't test it in side winds; ooops!
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Sweeney]
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HE BLEW HUGE!
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [snaaijert]
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It says Ryf has been running under 6:30 pace. That seems like it can't be right. She doesn't look like she's running that fast and if she is, think she'll crack?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [spool]
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spool wrote:
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Cup]
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Patrick Lange is tearing it up.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Cup]
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Cup wrote:
It says Ryf has been running under 6:30 pace. That seems like it can't be right. She doesn't look like she's running that fast and if she is, think she'll crack?I say she will not crack
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sylvan]
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Pro Men - Thru Run Split 6 - Energy Lab entrance - 2.35->16.18 mi
1 6:59:53 Jan Frodeno 14:48 6:18
2 7:02:27 2:34 Sebastian Kienle 15:52 6:45
3 7:05:55 6:03 Ben Hoffman 15:55 6:47
4 7:06:25 6:32 Andi Boecherer 16:33 7:03
5 7:06:48 6:55 Tim O'Donnell 15:45 6:42
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1 6:59:53 Jan Frodeno 14:48 6:18
2 7:02:27 2:34 Sebastian Kienle 15:52 6:45
3 7:05:55 6:03 Ben Hoffman 15:55 6:47
4 7:06:25 6:32 Andi Boecherer 16:33 7:03
5 7:06:48 6:55 Tim O'Donnell 15:45 6:42
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Cup]
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Cup wrote:
It says Ryf has been running under 6:30 pace. That seems like it can't be right. She doesn't look like she's running that fast and if she is, think she'll crack?Dunno about the pace but she's putting time in Heather Jackson who is a strong runner, so Ryf is going pretty fast.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sylvan]
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Ben Hoff
THIRD!!
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THIRD!!
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sylvan]
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Pro Women - Thru Run Split 3 - 2.22->7.36 mi
1 6:38:22 Daniela Ryf 14:31 6:32
2 6:51:01 12:39 Anja Beranek 16:29 7:26
3 6:54:16 15:54 Heather Jackson 15:14 6:52
4 6:58:12 19:50 Jodie Swallow 15:36 7:02
5 6:58:34 20:12 Mary Beth Ellis 15:55 7:11
6 6:59:34 21:12 Michelle Vesterby 16:07 7:16
7 7:00:24 22:02 Mirinda Carfrae 14:34 6:34
8 7:00:34 22:12 Kaisa Lehtonen 14:42 6:38
9 7:00:37 22:15 Melissa Hauschildt 15:43 7:05
10 7:03:00 24:39 Meredith Kessler 18:17 8:14
11 7:03:29 25:07 Yvonne Van Vlerken 15:42 7:05
12 7:03:51 25:29 Camilla Pedersen 16:19 7:21
13 7:05:10 26:48 Carrie Lester 16:09 7:17
14 7:05:32 27:11 Alicia Kaye 16:43 7:32
15 7:06:36 28:14 Lucy Gossage 15:54 7:10
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1 6:38:22 Daniela Ryf 14:31 6:32
2 6:51:01 12:39 Anja Beranek 16:29 7:26
3 6:54:16 15:54 Heather Jackson 15:14 6:52
4 6:58:12 19:50 Jodie Swallow 15:36 7:02
5 6:58:34 20:12 Mary Beth Ellis 15:55 7:11
6 6:59:34 21:12 Michelle Vesterby 16:07 7:16
7 7:00:24 22:02 Mirinda Carfrae 14:34 6:34
8 7:00:34 22:12 Kaisa Lehtonen 14:42 6:38
9 7:00:37 22:15 Melissa Hauschildt 15:43 7:05
10 7:03:00 24:39 Meredith Kessler 18:17 8:14
11 7:03:29 25:07 Yvonne Van Vlerken 15:42 7:05
12 7:03:51 25:29 Camilla Pedersen 16:19 7:21
13 7:05:10 26:48 Carrie Lester 16:09 7:17
14 7:05:32 27:11 Alicia Kaye 16:43 7:32
15 7:06:36 28:14 Lucy Gossage 15:54 7:10
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Bubblehead]
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Bubblehead wrote:
Patrick Lange is tearing it up.Have they had him on camera yet? Kienle is getting more than his share today.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sylvan]
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sylvan wrote:
Pro Women - Thru Run Split 3 - 2.22->7.36 mi 1 6:38:22 Daniela Ryf 14:31 6:32
new record???????
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [snaaijert]
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snaaijert wrote:
Dunno about the pace but she's putting time in Heather Jackson who is a strong runner, so Ryf is going pretty fast.If she keeps anything near this pace, she's going to destroy the course record.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sylvan]
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sylvan wrote:
Pro Women - Thru Run Split 3 - 2.22->7.36 mi 1 6:38:22 Daniela Ryf 14:31 6:32
2 6:51:01 12:39 Anja Beranek 16:29 7:26
3 6:54:16 15:54 Heather Jackson 15:14 6:52
4 6:58:12 19:50 Jodie Swallow 15:36 7:02
5 6:58:34 20:12 Mary Beth Ellis 15:55 7:11
6 6:59:34 21:12 Michelle Vesterby 16:07 7:16
7 7:00:24 22:02 Mirinda Carfrae 14:34 6:34
8 7:00:34 22:12 Kaisa Lehtonen 14:42 6:38
9 7:00:37 22:15 Melissa Hauschildt 15:43 7:05
10 7:03:00 24:39 Meredith Kessler 18:17 8:14
11 7:03:29 25:07 Yvonne Van Vlerken 15:42 7:05
12 7:03:51 25:29 Camilla Pedersen 16:19 7:21
13 7:05:10 26:48 Carrie Lester 16:09 7:17
14 7:05:32 27:11 Alicia Kaye 16:43 7:32
15 7:06:36 28:14 Lucy Gossage 15:54 7:10
So Rinny passes everyone except Ryf...18 miles to make up 10 min on others seems reasonable.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [schroeder]
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I think I might be in the dog box. Gf's parents came over to install some hooks on doors. I told her at the beginning of the week that today I would be watching this race till at least 1.5 hours from now today. I am sitting in the living room watching the race. They are in the rooms doing the hooks.
Is this acceptable for the day of Kona?
Is this acceptable for the day of Kona?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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devashish_paul wrote:
sylvan wrote:
Pro Women - Thru Run Split 3 - 2.22->7.36 mi 1 6:38:22 Daniela Ryf 14:31 6:32
2 6:51:01 12:39 Anja Beranek 16:29 7:26
3 6:54:16 15:54 Heather Jackson 15:14 6:52
4 6:58:12 19:50 Jodie Swallow 15:36 7:02
5 6:58:34 20:12 Mary Beth Ellis 15:55 7:11
6 6:59:34 21:12 Michelle Vesterby 16:07 7:16
7 7:00:24 22:02 Mirinda Carfrae 14:34 6:34
make up 10 min on others seems reasonable.
yep, I'd bet on that too...
Rinny is a running beast
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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Patrick Lange avg pace, 6:11 wow. Can he hold it and catch em?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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And she'll still finish 15mins down on ryf, crazy!
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [rodchaves31]
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rodchaves31 wrote:
irontri wrote:
Excuse my ignorance. Who is Bryan McCrystal of Ireland M35-39 biking a 4:29 after a :59 swim?!?!Top age grouper
Thanks cap'n obvious
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [TriguyBlue]
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TriguyBlue wrote:
flyingirish wrote:
http://hessenschau.de/sport/mehr-sport/live---der-ironman-hawaii-im-social-tv,ironman-hawaii-livestream-100.htmlSweet, much better picture.
Everything so much better even though I can only pick up a little of the German. They have standings flash on the bottom and once in a while provide summaries (great as I'm late to the party).
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [fulla]
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fulla wrote:
I think I might be in the dog box. Gf's parents came over to install some hooks on doors. I told her at the beginning of the week that today I would be watching this race till at least 1.5 hours from now today. I am sitting in the living room watching the race. They are in the rooms doing the hooks. Is this acceptable for the day of Kona?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [fulla]
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Plenty of time for a heads up but you should have left the house to avoid being seen not doing anything
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [fulla]
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It's your own fault. The Wife and family know that today is off limits. I'll pay for it the rest of the weekend, but I don't mind the price.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Bubblehead]
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Bubblehead wrote:
Patrick Lange avg pace, 6:11 wow. Can he hold it and catch em?I say 'no'
but what great running!
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Cup]
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Cup wrote:
snaaijert wrote:
Dunno about the pace but she's putting time in Heather Jackson who is a strong runner, so Ryf is going pretty fast.
If she keeps anything near this pace, she's going to destroy the course record.
I think course record is 8:52. She should comfortably come in at 8:48 even with a slowdown?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Tri-Banter]
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Haven't seen the marshmallow thing in a while
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [dtoce]
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I say yes, everyone was waiting for him to blow at imtx and he ran 2:41
dtoce wrote:
Bubblehead wrote:
Patrick Lange avg pace, 6:11 wow. Can he hold it and catch em?I say 'no'
but what great running!
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [fulla]
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fulla wrote:
I think I might be in the dog box. Gf's parents came over to install some hooks on doors. I told her at the beginning of the week that today I would be watching this race till at least 1.5 hours from now today. I am sitting in the living room watching the race. They are in the rooms doing the hooks. Is this acceptable for the day of Kona?
No All Blacks replay as well?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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8:52:14 is the women's course record
Train to race. Race to win.
Train to race. Race to win.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [shamrocks]
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shamrocks wrote:
fulla wrote:
I think I might be in the dog box. Gf's parents came over to install some hooks on doors. I told her at the beginning of the week that today I would be watching this race till at least 1.5 hours from now today. I am sitting in the living room watching the race. They are in the rooms doing the hooks. Is this acceptable for the day of Kona?
Yes
'kn oath
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Hughson CA
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [kiwi.]
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kiwi. wrote:
fulla wrote:
I think I might be in the dog box. Gf's parents came over to install some hooks on doors. I told her at the beginning of the week that today I would be watching this race till at least 1.5 hours from now today. I am sitting in the living room watching the race. They are in the rooms doing the hooks. Is this acceptable for the day of Kona?
No All Blacks replay as well?
I've been up since 4am or so. Watched the ABs before Hawaii.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sp1ke]
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He is slowing down. It looks like all the men are slowing down except Frodo.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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TO just past Boecherer for 4th place.
TOP 10 Pro Men - Thru Run Split 7 - Energy Lab farthest turnaround - 17.70 mi
1 7:09:10 Jan Frodeno
2 7:12:25 3:16 Sebastian Kienle
3 7:15:58 6:49 Ben Hoffman
4 7:16:31 7:21 Tim O'Donnell
5 7:16:32 7:23 Andi Boecherer
Train to race. Race to win.
TOP 10 Pro Men - Thru Run Split 7 - Energy Lab farthest turnaround - 17.70 mi
1 7:09:10 Jan Frodeno
2 7:12:25 3:16 Sebastian Kienle
3 7:15:58 6:49 Ben Hoffman
4 7:16:31 7:21 Tim O'Donnell
5 7:16:32 7:23 Andi Boecherer
Train to race. Race to win.
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flyingirish: Oct 8, 16 16:53
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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flyingirish wrote:
TO just back Boecherer for 4th place. TOP 10 Pro Men - Thru Run Split 7 - Energy Lab farthest turnaround - 17.70 mi
1 7:09:10 Jan Frodeno
getting closer to the W
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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flyingirish wrote:
TO just back Boecherer for 4th place. TOP 10 Pro Men - Thru Run Split 7 - Energy Lab farthest turnaround - 17.70 mi
1 7:09:10 Jan Frodeno
2 7:12:25 3:16 Sebastian Kienle
3 7:15:58 6:49 Ben Hoffman
4 7:16:31 7:21 Tim O'Donnell
5 7:16:32 7:23 Andi Boecherer
Lookin like TO might catch Hoff. American sprint finish for the final podium spot?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [snaaijert]
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snaaijert wrote:
And she'll still finish 15mins down on ryf, crazy!So when will people start saying "She should learn to bike"?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [M~]
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M~ wrote:
snaaijert wrote:
And she'll still finish 15mins down on ryf, crazy!So when will people start saying "She should learn to bike"?
um, like immediately
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [dtoce]
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Pro Men - Thru Run Split 7 - Energy Lab farthest turnaround - 1.52->17.70 mi
1 7:09:10 Jan Frodeno 9:17 6:07
2 7:12:25 3:16 Sebastian Kienle 9:59 6:34
3 7:15:58 6:49 Ben Hoffman 10:03 6:37
4 7:16:31 7:21 Tim O'Donnell 9:43 6:24
5 7:16:32 7:23 Andi Boecherer 10:07 6:40
6 7:18:58 9:48 Patrick Lange 9:07 6:00
7 7:19:24 10:15 Boris Stein 9:57 6:33
8 7:23:06 13:57 Frederik Van Lierde 10:02 6:36
9 7:23:41 14:31 Andy Potts 9:50 6:28
10 7:24:46 15:36 Bart Aernouts 9:47 6:27
11 7:25:31 16:22 Ivan Rana 9:34 6:18
12 7:26:21 17:12 Brent McMahon 10:02 6:36
Pro Men - Thru Run Split 8 - Energy Lab exit - 1.52->19.22 mi
1 7:19:30 Jan Frodeno 10:21 6:48
2 7:23:16 3:46 Sebastian Kienle 10:51 7:08
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1 7:09:10 Jan Frodeno 9:17 6:07
2 7:12:25 3:16 Sebastian Kienle 9:59 6:34
3 7:15:58 6:49 Ben Hoffman 10:03 6:37
4 7:16:31 7:21 Tim O'Donnell 9:43 6:24
5 7:16:32 7:23 Andi Boecherer 10:07 6:40
6 7:18:58 9:48 Patrick Lange 9:07 6:00
7 7:19:24 10:15 Boris Stein 9:57 6:33
8 7:23:06 13:57 Frederik Van Lierde 10:02 6:36
9 7:23:41 14:31 Andy Potts 9:50 6:28
10 7:24:46 15:36 Bart Aernouts 9:47 6:27
11 7:25:31 16:22 Ivan Rana 9:34 6:18
12 7:26:21 17:12 Brent McMahon 10:02 6:36
Pro Men - Thru Run Split 8 - Energy Lab exit - 1.52->19.22 mi
1 7:19:30 Jan Frodeno 10:21 6:48
2 7:23:16 3:46 Sebastian Kienle 10:51 7:08
Sylvan Smyth | http://www.sportstats.asia | sylvan@sportstats.asia | Starvas
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [M~]
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M~ wrote:
snaaijert wrote:
And she'll still finish 15mins down on ryf, crazy!So when will people start saying "She should learn to bike"?
Rinny just took 5th. She'll finish 2nd.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [M~]
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Rinny 5th!
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''Sweeney - you can both crush your AG *and* cruise in dead last!! đź‚ '' Murphy's Law
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''Sweeney - you can both crush your AG *and* cruise in dead last!! đź‚ '' Murphy's Law
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sylvan]
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On the German streaming it is an interview with Lange's coach Faris Al-Sultan
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [M~]
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Sanders must be walking at this point.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [dyarab]
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Its going to be a husband/wife race to see who gets a better position at the end.
Train to race. Race to win.
Train to race. Race to win.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [BMANX]
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Potts has crashed as well now.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [dyarab]
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [M~]
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M~ wrote:
snaaijert wrote:
And she'll still finish 15mins down on ryf, crazy!So when will people start saying "She should learn to bike"?
Rinny is a good triathlon biker for someone as small as she is producing such low top line wattage (given her size). She might be able to get down to Natasha Badmann range with more aero tweaks but at what cost to her run. Keep in mind that Rinny's times have generally all been faster than Natasha at her peak and also as fast or faster than PNF (an athletes of the same size who biked faster but ran slower....also keep in mind that PNF was able to ride with age group men. Her times would be slower today riding solo).
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [BMANX]
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Jan's english is far less action hero than Sebastian's.
Take a short break from ST and read my blog:
http://tri-banter.blogspot.com/
Take a short break from ST and read my blog:
http://tri-banter.blogspot.com/
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Tri-Banter]
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Tri-Banter wrote:
Jan's english is far less action hero than Sebastian's.hahaha...one of the best comments today
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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devashish_paul wrote:
M~ wrote:
snaaijert wrote:
And she'll still finish 15mins down on ryf, crazy!So when will people start saying "She should learn to bike"?
Rinny is a good triathlon biker for someone as small as she is producing such low top line wattage (given her size). She might be able to get down to Natasha Badmann range with more aero tweaks but at what cost to her run. Keep in mind that Rinny's times have generally all been faster than Natasha at her peak and also as fast or faster than PNF (an athletes of the same size who biked faster but ran slower....also keep in mind that PNF was able to ride with age group men. Her times would be slower today riding solo).
but she has to learn to do something that gets her in contention earlier...running down people who are SO far ahead is super challenging
change something Rinny.
You know I love you!
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Tri-Banter]
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Tri-Banter wrote:
Jan's english is far less action hero than Sebastian's.Could imagine seb saying "my eyes, the Oakley's they do nothing!"
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [alien]
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You would think with the lead Ryf has and Rinny moving up, they would drop the coverage on Ryf and roll back to the 2-5 women runners.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [M~]
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M~ wrote:
dyarab wrote:
M~ wrote:
snaaijert wrote:
And she'll still finish 15mins down on ryf, crazy!So when will people start saying "She should learn to bike"?
Rinny just took 5th. She'll finish 2nd.
Ain't first. Well first loser I suppose.
The nerve of someone sitting on a couch calling any of these beasts, no matter whom, a loser... SMH!
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [mattr]
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mattr wrote:
You would think with the lead Ryf has and Rinny moving up, they would drop the coverage on Ryf and roll back to the 2-5 women runners.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
[ In reply to ]
devashish_paul wrote:
M~ wrote:
snaaijert wrote:
And she'll still finish 15mins down on ryf, crazy!So when will people start saying "She should learn to bike"?
Rinny is a good triathlon biker for someone as small as she is producing such low top line wattage (given her size). She might be able to get down to Natasha Badmann range with more aero tweaks but at what cost to her run. Keep in mind that Rinny's times have generally all been faster than Natasha at her peak and also as fast or faster than PNF (an athletes of the same size who biked faster but ran slower....also keep in mind that PNF was able to ride with age group men. Her times would be slower today riding solo).
You always come back to this 'size' thing with men and women on the bike leg of the triathlon. How big is Alberto Contador? He is a pretty handy time trialist. How big are the best female time trialists in the world? I'm sure they are not much bigger, if they are bigger at all, than any strong female cyclists in a triathlon. Alistair Brownlee is hardly big yet he seems to be able to deliver some pretty big watts in his ITU races.
Is Badmann much bigger than Rinny?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Halvard]
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Did Lange just get a 5m penalty from T2??
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sylvan]
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can Lange make it to the podium
I'd bed 'yes'
wow-very impressive running this late in the race
I'd bed 'yes'
wow-very impressive running this late in the race
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [shamrocks]
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shamrocks wrote:
mattr wrote:
You would think with the lead Ryf has and Rinny moving up, they would drop the coverage on Ryf and roll back to the 2-5 women runners.It looks like they only rented two camera crews for the entire race.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [rodchaves31]
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rodchaves31 wrote:
M~ wrote:
dyarab wrote:
M~ wrote:
snaaijert wrote:
And she'll still finish 15mins down on ryf, crazy!So when will people start saying "She should learn to bike"?
Rinny just took 5th. She'll finish 2nd.
Ain't first. Well first loser I suppose.
The nerve of someone sitting on a couch calling any of these beasts, no matter whom, a loser... SMH!
I don't mean she is a "loser" just the first loser (in terms of placement) of the race.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [dtoce]
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dtoce wrote:
devashish_paul wrote:
M~ wrote:
snaaijert wrote:
And she'll still finish 15mins down on ryf, crazy!So when will people start saying "She should learn to bike"?
Rinny is a good triathlon biker for someone as small as she is producing such low top line wattage (given her size). She might be able to get down to Natasha Badmann range with more aero tweaks but at what cost to her run. Keep in mind that Rinny's times have generally all been faster than Natasha at her peak and also as fast or faster than PNF (an athletes of the same size who biked faster but ran slower....also keep in mind that PNF was able to ride with age group men. Her times would be slower today riding solo).
but she has to learn to do something that gets her in contention earlier...running down people who are SO far ahead is super challenging
change something Rinny.
You know I love you!
I think she's doing everything she possibly can to get into contention sooner. It's easy for us to coach her on ST. I'm sure Siri and her have been working on her swim & bike the last few years.
blog
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [dtoce]
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Don't worry. Just 3 or 4 more front page articles and Steinmetz will get her fit dialed.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [stevej]
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stevej wrote:
dtoce wrote:
devashish_paul wrote:
M~ wrote:
snaaijert wrote:
And she'll still finish 15mins down on ryf, crazy!So when will people start saying "She should learn to bike"?
Rinny is a good triathlon biker for someone as small as she is producing such low top line wattage (given her size). She might be able to get down to Natasha Badmann range with more aero tweaks but at what cost to her run. Keep in mind that Rinny's times have generally all been faster than Natasha at her peak and also as fast or faster than PNF (an athletes of the same size who biked faster but ran slower....also keep in mind that PNF was able to ride with age group men. Her times would be slower today riding solo).
but she has to learn to do something that gets her in contention earlier...running down people who are SO far ahead is super challenging
change something Rinny.
You know I love you!
I think she's doing everything she possibly can to get into contention sooner. It's easy for us to coach her on ST. I'm sure Siri and her have been working on her swim & bike the last few years.
yeah, I know that, but this is not a new problem
I love RINNY!!!!
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [stevej]
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stevej wrote:
dtoce wrote:
devashish_paul wrote:
M~ wrote:
snaaijert wrote:
And she'll still finish 15mins down on ryf, crazy!So when will people start saying "She should learn to bike"?
Rinny is a good triathlon biker for someone as small as she is producing such low top line wattage (given her size). She might be able to get down to Natasha Badmann range with more aero tweaks but at what cost to her run. Keep in mind that Rinny's times have generally all been faster than Natasha at her peak and also as fast or faster than PNF (an athletes of the same size who biked faster but ran slower....also keep in mind that PNF was able to ride with age group men. Her times would be slower today riding solo).
but she has to learn to do something that gets her in contention earlier...running down people who are SO far ahead is super challenging
change something Rinny.
You know I love you!
I think she's doing everything she possibly can to get into contention sooner. It's easy for us to coach her on ST. I'm sure Siri and her have been working on her swim & bike the last few years.
I would be interested to see her splits from the past 4 years and whether the swim and bike splits have improved much.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Cup]
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Cup wrote:
shamrocks wrote:
mattr wrote:
You would think with the lead Ryf has and Rinny moving up, they would drop the coverage on Ryf and roll back to the 2-5 women runners.You must be new here
It looks like they only rented two camera crews for the entire race.
Is that the including the helicopter or not... I'm guessing it does.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [dtoce]
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dtoce wrote:
devashish_paul wrote:
M~ wrote:
snaaijert wrote:
And she'll still finish 15mins down on ryf, crazy!So when will people start saying "She should learn to bike"?
Rinny is a good triathlon biker for someone as small as she is producing such low top line wattage (given her size). She might be able to get down to Natasha Badmann range with more aero tweaks but at what cost to her run. Keep in mind that Rinny's times have generally all been faster than Natasha at her peak and also as fast or faster than PNF (an athletes of the same size who biked faster but ran slower....also keep in mind that PNF was able to ride with age group men. Her times would be slower today riding solo).
but she has to learn to do something that gets her in contention earlier...running down people who are SO far ahead is super challenging
change something Rinny.
You know I love you!
She can't magically "learn" something. She just physically cannot produce more watts on the bike. It's like asking a linebacker to learn how to do the balance beam in the olympics gymnastic competition. At some point you can't defy your body's dimensions. As I said, she might be able to tweak out some aero gains, but is there a cost to her run? All the pro women up to now who are that small who biked faster ran slower. No one has run as fast as Rinny while riding like PNF or Badmann out of a frame as small as those girls. There is no magic learning to be done here. Rinny's bike was in a respectable range of other pro women. Ryf is out of this world as Chrissie was. Both were much bigger athletes.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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Looks like Lange can grab 3rd
TOP 10 Pro Men - Thru Run Split 9 - Hina Lani inbound - 21.56 mi
1 7:34:52 Jan Frodeno
2 7:39:08 4:16 Sebastian Kienle
3 7:42:38 7:46 Ben Hoffman
4 7:42:58 8:06 Andi Boecherer
5 7:43:19 8:28 Patrick Lange
6 7:43:25 8:33 Tim O'Donnell
Train to race. Race to win.
TOP 10 Pro Men - Thru Run Split 9 - Hina Lani inbound - 21.56 mi
1 7:34:52 Jan Frodeno
2 7:39:08 4:16 Sebastian Kienle
3 7:42:38 7:46 Ben Hoffman
4 7:42:58 8:06 Andi Boecherer
5 7:43:19 8:28 Patrick Lange
6 7:43:25 8:33 Tim O'Donnell
Train to race. Race to win.
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flyingirish: Oct 8, 16 17:12
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [fulla]
[ In reply to ]
fulla wrote:
devashish_paul wrote:
M~ wrote:
snaaijert wrote:
And she'll still finish 15mins down on ryf, crazy!So when will people start saying "She should learn to bike"?
Rinny is a good triathlon biker for someone as small as she is producing such low top line wattage (given her size). She might be able to get down to Natasha Badmann range with more aero tweaks but at what cost to her run. Keep in mind that Rinny's times have generally all been faster than Natasha at her peak and also as fast or faster than PNF (an athletes of the same size who biked faster but ran slower....also keep in mind that PNF was able to ride with age group men. Her times would be slower today riding solo).
You always come back to this 'size' thing with men and women on the bike leg of the triathlon. How big is Alberto Contador? He is a pretty handy time trialist. How big are the best female time trialists in the world? I'm sure they are not much bigger, if they are bigger at all, than any strong female cyclists in a triathlon. Alistair Brownlee is hardly big yet he seems to be able to deliver some pretty big watts in his ITU races.
Is Badmann much bigger than Rinny?
I agree. Look at Emma Pooley or Evelyn Stevens. Both tiny and fast. But not as lean as Carfrae though.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [dyarab]
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Look at Lange, holy crap!
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''Sweeney - you can both crush your AG *and* cruise in dead last!! đź‚ '' Murphy's Law
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''Sweeney - you can both crush your AG *and* cruise in dead last!! đź‚ '' Murphy's Law
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
[ In reply to ]
devashish_paul wrote:
dtoce wrote:
devashish_paul wrote:
M~ wrote:
snaaijert wrote:
And she'll still finish 15mins down on ryf, crazy!So when will people start saying "She should learn to bike"?
Rinny is a good triathlon biker for someone as small as she is producing such low top line wattage (given her size). She might be able to get down to Natasha Badmann range with more aero tweaks but at what cost to her run. Keep in mind that Rinny's times have generally all been faster than Natasha at her peak and also as fast or faster than PNF (an athletes of the same size who biked faster but ran slower....also keep in mind that PNF was able to ride with age group men. Her times would be slower today riding solo).
but she has to learn to do something that gets her in contention earlier...running down people who are SO far ahead is super challenging
change something Rinny.
You know I love you!
She can't magically "learn" something. She just physically cannot produce more watts on the bike. It's like asking a linebacker to learn how to do the balance beam in the olympics gymnastic competition. At some point you can't defy your body's dimensions. As I said, she might be able to tweak out some aero gains, but is there a cost to her run? All the pro women up to now who are that small who biked faster ran slower. No one has run as fast as Rinny while riding like PNF or Badmann out of a frame as small as those girls. There is no magic learning to be done here. Rinny's bike was in a respectable range of other pro women. Ryf is out of this world as Chrissie was. Both were much bigger athletes.
I can totally respect that. But to get to the top, you've got to make changes somewhere.
Just sayin'
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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That Lange pass tho
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [shamrocks]
[ In reply to ]
shamrocks wrote:
mattr wrote:
You would think with the lead Ryf has and Rinny moving up, they would drop the coverage on Ryf and roll back to the 2-5 women runners.You must be new here
No, I say they same thing every year after watching the leaders for hours while all the action is going on behind them. I keep hoping someone from Ironman will read my post and think.... Hey, all the action is behind the leaders, maybe we should drop the cameras back.
They must have read the post. The camera finally found Patrick Lange.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
[ In reply to ]
devashish_paul wrote:
dtoce wrote:
devashish_paul wrote:
M~ wrote:
snaaijert wrote:
And she'll still finish 15mins down on ryf, crazy!So when will people start saying "She should learn to bike"?
Rinny is a good triathlon biker for someone as small as she is producing such low top line wattage (given her size). She might be able to get down to Natasha Badmann range with more aero tweaks but at what cost to her run. Keep in mind that Rinny's times have generally all been faster than Natasha at her peak and also as fast or faster than PNF (an athletes of the same size who biked faster but ran slower....also keep in mind that PNF was able to ride with age group men. Her times would be slower today riding solo).
but she has to learn to do something that gets her in contention earlier...running down people who are SO far ahead is super challenging
change something Rinny.
You know I love you!
She can't magically "learn" something. She just physically cannot produce more watts on the bike. It's like asking a linebacker to learn how to do the balance beam in the olympics gymnastic competition. At some point you can't defy your body's dimensions. As I said, she might be able to tweak out some aero gains, but is there a cost to her run? All the pro women up to now who are that small who biked faster ran slower. No one has run as fast as Rinny while riding like PNF or Badmann out of a frame as small as those girls. There is no magic learning to be done here. Rinny's bike was in a respectable range of other pro women. Ryf is out of this world as Chrissie was. Both were much bigger athletes.
She did give up 4 minutes on the swim as well today.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [dtoce]
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He is gonna podium....runs like a maniac......
I'd bed 'yes'
wow-very impressive running this late in the race
dtoce wrote:
can Lange make it to the podium I'd bed 'yes'
wow-very impressive running this late in the race
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [shamrocks]
[ In reply to ]
If you he had another mile I bet he could get 2nd but alas I think he will fall short of that.
Train to race. Race to win.
Train to race. Race to win.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [dtoce]
[ In reply to ]
Lange now closing in on 3rd. Impressive run
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Sweeney]
[ In reply to ]
Sweeney wrote:
Look at Lange, holy crap!Crazy. Finally coverage of this. Absolutely amazing run.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [mattr]
[ In reply to ]
mattr wrote:
shamrocks wrote:
mattr wrote:
You would think with the lead Ryf has and Rinny moving up, they would drop the coverage on Ryf and roll back to the 2-5 women runners.You must be new here
No, I say they same thing every year after watching the leaders for hours while all the action is going on behind them. I keep hoping someone from Ironman will read my post and think.... Hey, all the action is behind the leaders, maybe we should drop the cameras back.
They must have read the post. The camera finally found Patrick Lange.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [dtoce]
[ In reply to ]
dtoce wrote:
devashish_paul wrote:
dtoce wrote:
devashish_paul wrote:
M~ wrote:
snaaijert wrote:
And she'll still finish 15mins down on ryf, crazy!So when will people start saying "She should learn to bike"?
Rinny is a good triathlon biker for someone as small as she is producing such low top line wattage (given her size). She might be able to get down to Natasha Badmann range with more aero tweaks but at what cost to her run. Keep in mind that Rinny's times have generally all been faster than Natasha at her peak and also as fast or faster than PNF (an athletes of the same size who biked faster but ran slower....also keep in mind that PNF was able to ride with age group men. Her times would be slower today riding solo).
but she has to learn to do something that gets her in contention earlier...running down people who are SO far ahead is super challenging
change something Rinny.
You know I love you!
She can't magically "learn" something. She just physically cannot produce more watts on the bike. It's like asking a linebacker to learn how to do the balance beam in the olympics gymnastic competition. At some point you can't defy your body's dimensions. As I said, she might be able to tweak out some aero gains, but is there a cost to her run? All the pro women up to now who are that small who biked faster ran slower. No one has run as fast as Rinny while riding like PNF or Badmann out of a frame as small as those girls. There is no magic learning to be done here. Rinny's bike was in a respectable range of other pro women. Ryf is out of this world as Chrissie was. Both were much bigger athletes.
I can totally respect that. But to get to the top, you've got to make changes somewhere.
Just sayin'
What makes you think they haven't already changed things?
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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What is with the cameramen with the cameras 3 inches off the pavement? Did someone teach them in the 60s that was a cool shot so they just kept doing it?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Sweeney]
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Sweeney wrote:
Look at Lange, holy crap!Yes, holy crap
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [shamrocks]
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shamrocks wrote:
That Lange pass thoWTF!!! Lange will probably take 2nd. Insane run!
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [dtoce]
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dtoce wrote:
change something Rinny.She tried riding with the pack once and ran poorly (by her standards). Too much surging and stupidity.
Then she went back to a super controlled ride that allowed her to run into the win.
She has her energy expenditure strategy pretty dialled for delivering lowest overall time she can. Unfortunately she is up against possibly the best ever.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [mattr]
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They must have read the post. The camera finally found Patrick Lange.
Just go back in this thread, I Brough him up over an hour ago!! Germans 1.2, and 3 it looks like to me!!
Of course I'm not covering this race except for here, so nothing I can do about the cameras//)-;
Just go back in this thread, I Brough him up over an hour ago!! Germans 1.2, and 3 it looks like to me!!
Of course I'm not covering this race except for here, so nothing I can do about the cameras//)-;
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [TriguyBlue]
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TriguyBlue wrote:
alien wrote:
From the footage I saw the bike looked like it was getting blown around a lot more than the others. I would have been thinking, "Get me off this thing!!!!"It looked horrible, i thought he was going to come off.
notably a wreck compared to others.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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Fun fact... the last time a country swept the podium in the men's race was in 1997 with Germany also taking the top three (Hellreigel, Zack, Leder)
Train to race. Race to win.
Train to race. Race to win.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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flyingirish wrote:
Looks like Lange can grab 3rd TOP 10 Pro Men - Thru Run Split 9 - Hina Lani inbound - 21.56 mi
1 7:34:52 Jan Frodeno
2 7:39:08 4:16 Sebastian Kienle
3 7:42:38 7:46 Ben Hoffman
4 7:42:58 8:06 Andi Boecherer
5 7:43:19 8:28 Patrick Lange
6 7:43:25 8:33 Tim O'Donnell
Lange is flying. He has to run 50 seconds faster per mile than Kienle to get 2nd. It's almost in the cards.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Twilkas]
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Uh oh, ITB issues with Lange?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread
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So will Lange crack the 2:39 mark today?
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [rodchaves31]
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It's Patrick Lange's first appearance in Kona, and to be honest: It's his first full-distance ever! The IM North American championships had a modified bike course of 94 miles due to flooding - so Lange is doing his first real full-distance today. By the way: Do you know his coach? It's 2005 IM world champ Faris Al-Sultan
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [JustinNorCal]
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So will Lange crack the 2:39 mark today?I can watch this guy run all day long. It reminds me of watching Whitfield.....completely smooth
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [shamrocks]
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shamrocks wrote:
Uh oh, ITB issues with Lange?This dude has a bottle tucked in his jersey!! LOL!
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [shamrocks]
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Huh?
He is flying....
He is flying....
shamrocks wrote:
Uh oh, ITB issues with Lange?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [shamrocks]
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Where did you get that?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [JustinNorCal]
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JustinNorCal wrote:
So will Lange crack the 2:39 mark today?Wow, he's flying. Anyone know what brand tri-suit that is?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [JustinNorCal]
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JustinNorCal wrote:
So will Lange crack the 2:39 mark today?2:39:30 pace at 21.6 miles. So, doubt it.
What, precisely, is the run course record. 2:40 and some seconds. How many seconds?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [M~]
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I can watch this guy run all day long. It reminds me of watching Whitfield.....completely smooth
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Admit it, the real reason you could watch Lange run all day long is because of his wide open kit.
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Admit it, the real reason you could watch Lange run all day long is because of his wide open kit.
Take a short break from ST and read my blog:
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sp1ke]
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sp1ke wrote:
Where did you get that?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Tri-Banter]
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Tri-Banter wrote:
I can watch this guy run all day long. It reminds me of watching Whitfield.....completely smooth ---
Admit it, the real reason you could watch Lange run all day long is because of his wide open kit.
Don't tell me wife...
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
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monty wrote:
They must have read the post. The camera finally found Patrick Lange. Just go back in this thread, I Brough him up over an hour ago!! Germans 1.2, and 3 it looks like to me!!
Of course I'm not covering this race except for here, so nothing I can do about the cameras//)-;
I was looking to do a spring camp in the states, maybe I should go to Germany instead and train with them! :)
Something in the water over there?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [M~]
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I was looking to do a spring camp in the states, maybe I should go to Germany instead and train with them! :) //
Well they usually come here and train all winter, so maybe the water here?
Well they usually come here and train all winter, so maybe the water here?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [snaaijert]
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snaaijert wrote:
fulla wrote:
devashish_paul wrote:
M~ wrote:
snaaijert wrote:
And she'll still finish 15mins down on ryf, crazy!So when will people start saying "She should learn to bike"?
Rinny is a good triathlon biker for someone as small as she is producing such low top line wattage (given her size). She might be able to get down to Natasha Badmann range with more aero tweaks but at what cost to her run. Keep in mind that Rinny's times have generally all been faster than Natasha at her peak and also as fast or faster than PNF (an athletes of the same size who biked faster but ran slower....also keep in mind that PNF was able to ride with age group men. Her times would be slower today riding solo).
You always come back to this 'size' thing with men and women on the bike leg of the triathlon. How big is Alberto Contador? He is a pretty handy time trialist. How big are the best female time trialists in the world? I'm sure they are not much bigger, if they are bigger at all, than any strong female cyclists in a triathlon. Alistair Brownlee is hardly big yet he seems to be able to deliver some pretty big watts in his ITU races.
Is Badmann much bigger than Rinny?
I agree. Look at Emma Pooley or Evelyn Stevens. Both tiny and fast. But not as lean as Carfrae though.
You guys realize that Emma Pooley would not be able to match Rinny's bike split in Kona?
To fulla, the Contador example is world's away from Rinny. Contador is still 62 kilos. Carfrae is 52 kilos, Pooley is 48 kilos. Alistair Brownlee is 70 kilos, Kienle 73 kilos, Frodo 75 kilos. Brownlee is hardly small in that context. He is basically the same weight at Chris Froome (69-71 kilos).
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [M~]
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What is the lump in the back of Kienle's tri suit. Is it some type of GPS?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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devashish_paul wrote:
BMANX wrote:
Lionel Sanders averaged 299 watts for the 4th fastest bike split. Now if he could be just a bit more aero.
How can you ride 299 W at his size (not that big) and only ride 4:26. His aero does not seem that bad. Do you guys think his powertap pedals read high?
I remember this one from a few years ago. 327np and 4:32. Hotter and windier day, though. I think only one amateur and a small handful of pros went faster.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [kny]
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anyone notice Frodo tuck that watch away? do you think they dont sponsor him so he doesnt want it in the photos?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [kny]
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kny wrote:
devashish_paul wrote:
BMANX wrote:
Lionel Sanders averaged 299 watts for the 4th fastest bike split. Now if he could be just a bit more aero.
How can you ride 299 W at his size (not that big) and only ride 4:26. His aero does not seem that bad. Do you guys think his powertap pedals read high?
I remember this one from a few years ago. 327np and 4:32. Hotter and windier day, though. I think only one amateur and a small handful of pros went faster.
Isn't Lionel around 10-15 lbs smaller though?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [kny]
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Team_Doc28]
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Good grief Jan knows what to say in a post-race interview.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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devashish_paul wrote:
Isn't Lionel around 10-15 lbs smaller though?At least. Probably more.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Tri-Banter]
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Tri-Banter wrote:
Good grief Jan knows what to say in a post-race interview.http://www.PatGriskusTri.com USAT Certified Race Director
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Tri-Banter]
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Tri-Banter wrote:
Good grief Jan knows what to say in a post-race interview.Yup, that guy is a sponsors dream.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Tri-Banter]
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Tri-Banter wrote:
Good grief Jan knows what to say in a post-race interview.Total class.
Wow, Kienle makes some really "gentleman" style gestures at the line showing his humility and Lange in personal disbelief looking at his watch.
Congrats DEU!!!!
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [kny]
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2:39:40 give or take one or two seconds. New run course record.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [kny]
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What, precisely, is the run course record. 2:40 and some seconds. How many seconds? //
It is not precise, but around 2;38. Mark Allen did around a 2;40 flat with transition time included, they take them out now..
It is not precise, but around 2;38. Mark Allen did around a 2;40 flat with transition time included, they take them out now..
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [M~]
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Did you notice your boyfriend bouncing around after an IM?
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [M~]
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Lange just finished his first full distance Ironman.
Who is talking about Kona learning curve??
Who is talking about Kona learning curve??
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [M~]
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M~ wrote:
Tri-Banter wrote:
Good grief Jan knows what to say in a post-race interview.Yup, that guy is a sponsors dream.
Lange's reaction though....
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [kny]
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Ok, I love this guy.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [kny]
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That's awesome!
Kienle does his first sub 2:50 run in Kona
Kienle does his first sub 2:50 run in Kona
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
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monty wrote:
What, precisely, is the run course record. 2:40 and some seconds. How many seconds? // It is not precise, but around 2;38. Mark Allen did around a 2;40 flat with transition time included, they take them out now..
I recently saw a facebook video with Mark Allen himself discussing who might finally break his course record, which he stated was 2:40, but did not give the seconds. Regardless, looks like 2:39:45 is the new benchmark. Pretty amazing.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [M~]
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M~ wrote:
Ok, I love this guy.Yeah. That was awesome.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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Lange 2.39.45
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [BMANX]
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Tri-Banter]
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Tri-Banter wrote:
Did you notice your boyfriend bouncing around after an IM?Love it. How can you not love that exuberance!
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [M~]
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Timmy O - going to sport an American Flag tatt next year?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Halvard]
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [kny]
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I recently saw a facebook video with Mark Allen himself discussing who might finally break his course record, which he stated was 2:40, but did not give the seconds.
Like I said, the old records has transition times in them, so that is what he was referring to. He ran a 2;38 something minus the transition. Add in transition time and you will see that breaking 2;40 was not done today. Just throwing out the apples to apples, unless you think Mark rode in his running shoes and clothes. (-;
Like I said, the old records has transition times in them, so that is what he was referring to. He ran a 2;38 something minus the transition. Add in transition time and you will see that breaking 2;40 was not done today. Just throwing out the apples to apples, unless you think Mark rode in his running shoes and clothes. (-;
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [cloy26]
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Meanwhile... the women's race?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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devashish_paul wrote:
You guys realize that Emma Pooley would not be able to match Rinny's bike split in Kona?
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Why not? She's a former world champion time triallist.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [M~]
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Frodo is hurting on the podium. Went deep today!
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [dyarab]
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dyarab wrote:
M~ wrote:
Ok, I love this guy.Yeah. That was awesome.
me too!
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [dtoce]
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Looking like Rinny has 2nd locked up. Impressive that she hasn't put any time into Ryf yet.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Cup]
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Blogger says that Rinny is in 4th, closing in on 3rd. That means she's getting ready to overtake Anja Beranek. Heather Jackson, currently 2nd, isn't that much ahead of either of them. Rinny poised to take a distant 2nd.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Cup]
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [dtoce]
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Rinny 4th
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [GreatScott]
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GreatScott wrote:
Frodo is hurting on the podium. Went deep today!yeah,nice for him-I expected that
but Lange made 3rd and hurt pretty bad to get there
wow-good for him
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [cloy26]
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Too funny. He did. Lange running around and jumping up & down. Frodo giving him the calm down sign language while Kienle was on his back.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Cup]
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Rinny chasing HJ out of the energy lab?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Nerd]
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Frodo's words- I'm happy.
Frodo's body language- dear god please let me just let this day end
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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Chris Froome's race weight is 147 lbs (66.7 kg). I reckon in a straight up 112 mile TT, Pooley beats Carfrae every time.
In IM Melbourne last year where they raced together...Pooley did 4:44:33 (after a shit 1:08:45 swim...i.e. she cycled alone for a lot of it. She was 5s slower than YVV for best split. She was ahead of Steffen, Hauschildt and other fast cyclists) compared to Rinny's 5:00:58. The harder the course, the better Pooley will do, she is a climber. Melbourne was flat as a pancake.
In IM Melbourne last year where they raced together...Pooley did 4:44:33 (after a shit 1:08:45 swim...i.e. she cycled alone for a lot of it. She was 5s slower than YVV for best split. She was ahead of Steffen, Hauschildt and other fast cyclists) compared to Rinny's 5:00:58. The harder the course, the better Pooley will do, she is a climber. Melbourne was flat as a pancake.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
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monty wrote:
I recently saw a facebook video with Mark Allen himself discussing who might finally break his course record, which he stated was 2:40, but did not give the seconds. Like I said, the old records has transition times in them, so that is what he was referring to. He ran a 2;38 something minus the transition. Add in transition time and you will see that breaking 2;40 was not done today. Just throwing out the apples to apples, unless you think Mark rode in his running shoes and clothes. (-;
Monty, go to 28.08 into this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWrpbMVicnY
That is when Mark and Dave come into T2. You get to watch 30 seconds of the transition and then they pan over to Wolfgang in the lead, so you don't know exactly how long T2 is but it can't be much over 1 minute. Still, Mark as faster than Lange.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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devashish_paul wrote:
monty wrote:
I recently saw a facebook video with Mark Allen himself discussing who might finally break his course record, which he stated was 2:40, but did not give the seconds. Like I said, the old records has transition times in them, so that is what he was referring to. He ran a 2;38 something minus the transition. Add in transition time and you will see that breaking 2;40 was not done today. Just throwing out the apples to apples, unless you think Mark rode in his running shoes and clothes. (-;
Monty, go to 28.08 into this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWrpbMVicnY
That is when Mark and Dave come into T2. You get to watch 30 seconds of the transition and then they pan over to Wolfgang in the lead, so you don't know exactly how long T2 is but it can't be much over 1 minute. Still, Mark as faster than Lange.
1:13 and 1:15 transitions for Allen and Scott according to this:
http://triathlon.competitor.com/...#KyiIM77r43oOdSM7.99
Some claim both transitions were included in bike split, but consensus seems to be T2 was in run split, so 2:38 and 2:39 for Allen and Scott. Different run course, arguably harder in 1989, but no matter how you look at, certainly not apples to apples, though if all 1989 reports are accurate (T2 in time, harder course, and legitimate 26.2) then for certain the 1989 performance trumps Lange's.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Magwister]
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Chris Froome's race weight is 147 lbs (66.7 kg). I reckon in a straight up 112 mile TT, Pooley beats Carfrae every time. In IM Melbourne last year where they raced together...Pooley did 4:44:33 (after a shit 1:08:45...i.e. she cycled alone for a lot of it. She was 5s slower than YVV for best split. She was ahead of Steffen, Hauschildt and other fast cyclists) compared to Rinny's 5:00:58. The harder the course, the better Pooley will do, she is a climber. Melbourne was flat as a pancake.
You realize that Rinny is always in tourist mode in Melbourne? And how fast does Pooley go on the run relative to Carfrae when both are peaked (ex Rinny in Austria, Roth or Kona). I'm a Pooley fan (I really am, I love how she wins all those hard climbing races), but I think you have to look at the full performance, not just say, "Rinny has to learn to bike faster" As I said, she could bike faster by getting more aero, but she probably feels there is a cost to her based on her own tests. It's kind of hard to argue that much with a multiple time Kona winner for the formula that works for her....well until it does not work, so I guess that's what we're doing. I really don't think after all these years as a long course pro her bike gets much better.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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Rinny 3rd, can she get to second?
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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Rinny 3rd. Under 2 minutes form Jackson.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Tri-Banter]
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Watching Anja running and can only think of:
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Sweeney]
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Sweeney wrote:
Rinny 3rd, can she get to second?Timing.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Tri-Banter]
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Second!!!!
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Cup]
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Rinny 2nd... sheesh
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [kny]
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1:13 and 1:15 transitions for Allen and Scott according to this:
http://triathlon.competitor.com/...#KyiIM77r43oOdSM7.99
Sounds about right, like I said, a 2;38 something. But on another topic about Patrick, assume he got his 5 min penalty for some very minor infraction and not blatant drafting, that puts him sprinting with Frodo for the win!! Too bad we were robbed of that finish, we thought we had a German ironwar, it evaporated quickly, only to find out we could have had a real one to the bitter end!!
http://triathlon.competitor.com/...#KyiIM77r43oOdSM7.99
Sounds about right, like I said, a 2;38 something. But on another topic about Patrick, assume he got his 5 min penalty for some very minor infraction and not blatant drafting, that puts him sprinting with Frodo for the win!! Too bad we were robbed of that finish, we thought we had a German ironwar, it evaporated quickly, only to find out we could have had a real one to the bitter end!!
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [BMANX]
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Potts has crashed as well now.Anybody else see Potts wreck on the bike during the dismount into T2? He looked pretty shaken from it. Would disc brakes have prevented it or amputated somebody's leg at the knee?
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
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Ryf could beat Rinny's record by 4-5 min. So looks like she beats the old record by 2.5 minutes? This is where the change in the swim course kind of sucks.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
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I hate revisionist posts. ETA: I get it, it's fun to get all excited about. I just hate the "if X didn't happen Y would have occurred".
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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You stated small people can't go fast. Pooley clearly can. Carfrae never would go 4:44 in Melbourne....has she ever got close to that in an IM (I can't be arsed to look that up)? Pooley ran a 3:21 marathon (8th fastest split) compared to Rinny's 3:08 (3rd fastest split). So Pooley didn't exactly blow up on the run from an especially hard bike, etc.
BTW, I'm not saying Rinny can improve. I just think you can go fast if a smaller athlete i.e. Rinny's size isn't just the reason she isn't a fantastic cyclist (relative of course).
BTW, I'm not saying Rinny can improve. I just think you can go fast if a smaller athlete i.e. Rinny's size isn't just the reason she isn't a fantastic cyclist (relative of course).
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [M~]
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M~ wrote:
stevej wrote:
dtoce wrote:
devashish_paul wrote:
M~ wrote:
snaaijert wrote:
And she'll still finish 15mins down on ryf, crazy!So when will people start saying "She should learn to bike"?
Rinny is a good triathlon biker for someone as small as she is producing such low top line wattage (given her size). She might be able to get down to Natasha Badmann range with more aero tweaks but at what cost to her run. Keep in mind that Rinny's times have generally all been faster than Natasha at her peak and also as fast or faster than PNF (an athletes of the same size who biked faster but ran slower....also keep in mind that PNF was able to ride with age group men. Her times would be slower today riding solo).
but she has to learn to do something that gets her in contention earlier...running down people who are SO far ahead is super challenging
change something Rinny.
You know I love you!
I think she's doing everything she possibly can to get into contention sooner. It's easy for us to coach her on ST. I'm sure Siri and her have been working on her swim & bike the last few years.
I would be interested to see her splits from the past 4 years and whether the swim and bike splits have improved much.
Won't make a difference. Every year the conditions are different apples to oranges
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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We'll all still know who has the course record, shorter swim or longer swim be damned
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [ZenTriBrett]
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ZenTriBrett wrote:
BMANX wrote:
Potts has crashed as well now.Anybody else see Potts wreck on the bike during the dismount into T2? He looked pretty shaken from it. Would disc brakes have prevented it or amputated somebody's leg at the knee?
If he was on the disc bike, he would have been so far ahead that none of that would have ever happened.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Tri-Banter]
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Daniela wins the race, gets the record in dominating fashion, and still has enough to run a couple more laps and dance a jig. She's amazing!
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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8:46 for Ryf!
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Tri-Banter]
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Tri-Banter wrote:
Daniela wins the race, gets the record in dominating fashion, and still has enough to run a couple more laps and dance a jig. She's amazing!She is SCARY good.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [B_Doughtie]
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I hate revisionist posts. ETA: I get it, it's fun to get all excited about. I just hate the "if X didn't happen Y would have occurred".
I know, just like when LVL went 8;04 with his penalty, was that going to be a sub 8 day? But suffice it to say that lopping 5 minutes off of Patricks time and just seeing the zip code he would then be racing in, well it would have been a much closer finish for sure. Of course he got that 5 minutes of rest before starting his run, and that alone is what put him under 2;40, but you certainly do not get a one to one trade off on resting before you start and time off at the end.. thats all
I know, just like when LVL went 8;04 with his penalty, was that going to be a sub 8 day? But suffice it to say that lopping 5 minutes off of Patricks time and just seeing the zip code he would then be racing in, well it would have been a much closer finish for sure. Of course he got that 5 minutes of rest before starting his run, and that alone is what put him under 2;40, but you certainly do not get a one to one trade off on resting before you start and time off at the end.. thats all
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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devashish_paul wrote:
snaaijert wrote:
fulla wrote:
devashish_paul wrote:
M~ wrote:
snaaijert wrote:
And she'll still finish 15mins down on ryf, crazy!So when will people start saying "She should learn to bike"?
Rinny is a good triathlon biker for someone as small as she is producing such low top line wattage (given her size). She might be able to get down to Natasha Badmann range with more aero tweaks but at what cost to her run. Keep in mind that Rinny's times have generally all been faster than Natasha at her peak and also as fast or faster than PNF (an athletes of the same size who biked faster but ran slower....also keep in mind that PNF was able to ride with age group men. Her times would be slower today riding solo).
You always come back to this 'size' thing with men and women on the bike leg of the triathlon. How big is Alberto Contador? He is a pretty handy time trialist. How big are the best female time trialists in the world? I'm sure they are not much bigger, if they are bigger at all, than any strong female cyclists in a triathlon. Alistair Brownlee is hardly big yet he seems to be able to deliver some pretty big watts in his ITU races.
Is Badmann much bigger than Rinny?
I agree. Look at Emma Pooley or Evelyn Stevens. Both tiny and fast. But not as lean as Carfrae though.
You guys realize that Emma Pooley would not be able to match Rinny's bike split in Kona?
To fulla, the Contador example is world's away from Rinny. Contador is still 62 kilos. Carfrae is 52 kilos, Pooley is 48 kilos. Alistair Brownlee is 70 kilos, Kienle 73 kilos, Frodo 75 kilos. Brownlee is hardly small in that context. He is basically the same weight at Chris Froome (69-71 kilos).
What I was getting at is that many pro cyclists are quite small, just look at the size of them on the podiums next to skinny models. Often smaller. Their size does not seem to make them much worse at time trialing. Whilst some of the bigger guys do well at time trials, there are plenty of "little" guys who do ok.
I think Brownlee is smaller than 70kgs.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [georged]
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [stevej]
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stevej wrote:
M~ wrote:
stevej wrote:
dtoce wrote:
devashish_paul wrote:
M~ wrote:
snaaijert wrote:
And she'll still finish 15mins down on ryf, crazy!So when will people start saying "She should learn to bike"?
Rinny is a good triathlon biker for someone as small as she is producing such low top line wattage (given her size). She might be able to get down to Natasha Badmann range with more aero tweaks but at what cost to her run. Keep in mind that Rinny's times have generally all been faster than Natasha at her peak and also as fast or faster than PNF (an athletes of the same size who biked faster but ran slower....also keep in mind that PNF was able to ride with age group men. Her times would be slower today riding solo).
but she has to learn to do something that gets her in contention earlier...running down people who are SO far ahead is super challenging
change something Rinny.
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I think she's doing everything she possibly can to get into contention sooner. It's easy for us to coach her on ST. I'm sure Siri and her have been working on her swim & bike the last few years.
I would be interested to see her splits from the past 4 years and whether the swim and bike splits have improved much.
Won't make a difference. Every year the conditions are different apples to oranges
Not if you look at her relative position and relative splits.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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Ryf could beat Rinny's record by 4-5 min. So looks like she beats the old record by 2.5 minutes? This is where the change in the swim course kind of sucks.
Well at least she beat it by enough to cover the new spread on the swim, so its all good.. So this is the new normal, it is what this course has to offer the women of the future. Gonna be pretty hard since no one within 20 minutes, we have another Chrissie on our hands it appears.
Well at least she beat it by enough to cover the new spread on the swim, so its all good.. So this is the new normal, it is what this course has to offer the women of the future. Gonna be pretty hard since no one within 20 minutes, we have another Chrissie on our hands it appears.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [M~]
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M~ wrote:
Tri-Banter wrote:
Daniela wins the race, gets the record in dominating fashion, and still has enough to run a couple more laps and dance a jig. She's amazing!She is SCARY good.
No doubt. There was Ryf and then a race for ........ a ......... very ......... distant ......... 2nd.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
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I think he served his penalty about at the first penalty tent. So he biked for about 3 more hours solo before the run.
It was a great run, never know how it would have happened if he came off near the front maybe he and frondo blow up running so fast off the bike that they crack and sebi wins, maybe.... maybe.... maybe.....
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It was a great run, never know how it would have happened if he came off near the front maybe he and frondo blow up running so fast off the bike that they crack and sebi wins, maybe.... maybe.... maybe.....
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [HuffNPuff]
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Tracker shows her first 2.9 miles at 5:50 pace, faster than Frodeno and Kiehnle. I assume that can't be right?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [HuffNPuff]
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Was?
That race is still going on. Granted, pending disaster, it's likely decided. But Ryf can take a shower, get a massage, change her clothes, and mosey back to the finish line to congratulate 2nd place.
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That race is still going on. Granted, pending disaster, it's likely decided. But Ryf can take a shower, get a massage, change her clothes, and mosey back to the finish line to congratulate 2nd place.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Magwister]
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You stated small people can't go fast. Pooley clearly can. Carfrae never would go 4:44 in Melbourne....has she ever got close to that in an IM (I can't be arsed to look that up)? Pooley ran a 3:21 marathon (8th fastest split) compared to Rinny's 3:08 (3rd fastest split). So Pooley didn't exactly blow up on the run from an especially hard bike, etc. BTW, I'm not saying Rinny can improve. I just think you can go fast if a smaller athlete i.e. Rinny's size isn't just the reason she isn't a fantastic cyclist (relative of course).
Did you read what I wrote earlier in the thread too. There has never been an athlete as small as Rinny who bikes a ton faster and still runs fast. Paula and Natasha biked faster but they ran slower. There is a finite amount of energy to dispense during an IM from a smaller body (smaller tank than a large athlete, still the same size wheels to move through the air)....take more on the bike have less for the run. If you generate more top line watts, there is more kilojoule usage on the bike and the total storage on the body is a lot lower for the small athletes (you might argue the consumption is lower too, so it's a wash, but there is a reason why being either too small or too large is bad for IM racing). Large athletes can definitely ride faster for TT's, but they carry more weight on the run. Frodo is a borderline freak.
Anyway, it's kind of academic. Rinny's bike was in the range that she needed to be in for everyone but Ryf and previously Chrissie. Her strategy has been pretty successful in general. I'm not convinced that she can produce more watts. She lives with TO and would have access to all kinds of guidance. She might be able to get more aero, but how much. Her bike was in the range (5 min) of Mel Hauschildt. No one is beating up on her? She was 3 min behind Mary Beth Ellis, and a minute off Swallow and Vesterby.
Ryf is just better!
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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Rinny is extremely good.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Tri-Banter]
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Was? That race is still going on. Granted, pending disaster, it's likely decided. But Ryf can take a shower, get a massage, change her clothes, and mosey back to the finish line to congratulate 2nd place.
Yes. As in Ryf WAS 1st, long ago, in the past. While those still running in the present are way behind still running.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [georged]
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Happy for Heather Jackson.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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Do you think Ryf looked *too good* coming across the line? I mean literally everyone else looked like they were suffering at the end. Just saying :/
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [GreenPlease]
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Well, Lange, on the mens side, broke the run course record, bounced around for a while, and had to be calmed by his countrymen. Anja Beranek just did a cartwheel (albeit not that great of one).
The thing about Ryf was that she wasn't challenged today. At all. She didn't have to dig. She's faster than her performance today.
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The thing about Ryf was that she wasn't challenged today. At all. She didn't have to dig. She's faster than her performance today.
Take a short break from ST and read my blog:
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [GreenPlease]
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GreenPlease wrote:
Do you think Ryf looked *too good* coming across the line? I mean literally everyone else looked like they were suffering at the end. Just saying :/You mean like "I'm full of EPO" good? I really doubt it. Some people are just genetic freaks for their sport, like Michael Phelps, Chrissie Wellington, and apparently, Daniela Ryf. I would pay $$$ for a three way Ryf, Wellington, and Carfrae Showdown.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [ak_piper]
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... I would pay $$$ for a three way...lol
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [speedskater]
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speedskater wrote:
ak_piper wrote:
... I would pay $$$ for a three way...lol
I didn't really specify it was to be a race, did I?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Tri-Banter]
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Tri-Banter wrote:
Well, Lange, on the mens side, broke the run course record, bounced around for a while, and had to be calmed by his countrymen. Anja Beranek just did a cartwheel (albeit not that great of one). The thing about Ryf was that she wasn't challenged today. At all. She didn't have to dig. She's faster than her performance today.
Yeah I kind of already regret implying that. It's just hard to believe she's 20 minutes faster than the next fastest woman. That would be like Gwen winning by 4.5-5 minutes.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [ak_piper]
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A time machine that allowed that, and for us to put Seb and Frodo in the Ironwars, would be awesome.
'It never gets easier, you just get crazier.'
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [georged]
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georged wrote:
A time machine that allowed that, and for us to put Seb and Frodo in the Ironwars, would be awesome.That's what photoshop is for!
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [GreenPlease]
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GreenPlease wrote:
Tri-Banter wrote:
Well, Lange, on the mens side, broke the run course record, bounced around for a while, and had to be calmed by his countrymen. Anja Beranek just did a cartwheel (albeit not that great of one). The thing about Ryf was that she wasn't challenged today. At all. She didn't have to dig. She's faster than her performance today.
Yeah I kind of already regret implying that. It's just hard to believe she's 20 minutes faster than the next fastest woman. That would be like Gwen winning by 4.5-5 minutes.
Well Daniela biked 1 min slower than Heather Wurtele and 2 min slower than Mel Hauschildt at 70.3 Worlds over half the distance when she was totally trashed and not peaking. Today she was 20 and 15 min ahead of them on the bike respectively. She was flat on the bike in Australia, likely from her summer due sub 9's on back to back weekends, but seems to have gotten her bike legs back in time. Note that she ran pretty fast at 70.3 Worlds (1:21). I think she is just that good. She finished 40 min off of Frodo today. At Roth she was 47 min behind, but at Roth Frodo was on a TT, whereas here in Kona he is racing tactical for the win, which is not usually the fastest outcome. Plus in Roth the cameras are less disciplined than in Kona so Frodo likely gets a bigger benefit in Roth than Kona. Her results are in line with the top pro man.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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As you state, there are ups and downs for both large and small people.
Hopefully, Spirig will race more IMs (she's done one) and we can see how she does relative to bike and run times (Cozumel in 2014 (won it) she had a similar discipline profile to Rinny (OK bike, faster run))...she is almost identical in size to Rinny (2lbs heavier apparently at 117). Her 70.3 results suggest she could have a fast bike, but generally she has a very rapid run after good bikes. Incidentally, 70.3 Switzerland...Pooley came second behind Ryf with Spirig in third. Pooley (2:19:47) was close to Ryf (2:16:35) over the bike and ran a bit faster (1:17:01 to 1:17:55) but lost it due to the swim. Spirig was slower in both (2:32 and 1:20) over both, but this was back in 2014. Spirig has put in better times this year over 70.3. This year at Switzerland Pooley was 1 min slower than Ryf over the bike but ran 4 min slower as well. However, she focused on cycling this year for the Olympics.
Would be cool to see Pooley focus on IM now as well (have no idea if she plans to), after Rio and her return to cycling has finished (she has run a 2:44 open marathon so she has potential to go decently at Ironman).
Hopefully, Spirig will race more IMs (she's done one) and we can see how she does relative to bike and run times (Cozumel in 2014 (won it) she had a similar discipline profile to Rinny (OK bike, faster run))...she is almost identical in size to Rinny (2lbs heavier apparently at 117). Her 70.3 results suggest she could have a fast bike, but generally she has a very rapid run after good bikes. Incidentally, 70.3 Switzerland...Pooley came second behind Ryf with Spirig in third. Pooley (2:19:47) was close to Ryf (2:16:35) over the bike and ran a bit faster (1:17:01 to 1:17:55) but lost it due to the swim. Spirig was slower in both (2:32 and 1:20) over both, but this was back in 2014. Spirig has put in better times this year over 70.3. This year at Switzerland Pooley was 1 min slower than Ryf over the bike but ran 4 min slower as well. However, she focused on cycling this year for the Olympics.
Would be cool to see Pooley focus on IM now as well (have no idea if she plans to), after Rio and her return to cycling has finished (she has run a 2:44 open marathon so she has potential to go decently at Ironman).
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [PBT_2009]
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PBT_2009 wrote:
so the commentator just quoted the 7 mins lost by potts to be specifically due to the tires being 25c, and not because they were gatorskins w/ butyls...so he said likely no one is running "wide" tires. that ridiculous answer aside... can someone give us a real answer as to what % of pros are running 25s?
Not many. A few probably using 24c Turbo Cottons.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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Looks like Ryf had a faster run split than Carfrae.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Slowman]
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Looks like tracker is not reachable since about 8pm local, results can be found on Sportstats has well as a backup:
https://www.sportstats.ca/...s.xhtml?raceid=40975
https://www.sportstats.ca/...s.xhtml?raceid=40975
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [georged]
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georged wrote:
A time machine that allowed that, and for us to put Seb and Frodo in the Ironwars, would be awesome.Are you implying there is a place in the space-time continuum where those three would have a threesome with you? With Seb and Frodo watching to boot?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Team_Doc28]
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I noticed too and I thought the same thing.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [GreenPlease]
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GreenPlease wrote:
Do you think Ryf looked *too good* coming across the line? I mean literally everyone else looked like they were suffering at the end. Just saying :/Unfortunately I thought the same thing. It is possible/likely that she just put together the race of her life. Her run in previous years IM's have not been that stellar and probably not up to her capability. Her run has been her weakness but she just proved to the world that she can run with the best. She has zero weaknesses and those that are great.... have no weaknesses.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [stevej]
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stevej wrote:
GreenPlease wrote:
Do you think Ryf looked *too good* coming across the line? I mean literally everyone else looked like they were suffering at the end. Just saying :/Unfortunately I thought the same thing. It is possible/likely that she just put together the race of her life. Her run in previous years IM's have not been that stellar and probably not up to her capability. Her run has been her weakness but she just proved to the world that she can run with the best. She has zero weaknesses and those that are great.... have no weaknesses.
This. She was the best TRIATHLETE on the day.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [devashish_paul]
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Plus in Roth the cameras are less disciplined than in Kona so Frodo likely gets a bigger benefit in Roth than Kona.Absolutely untrue. Because of the world record attempt in Roth, the cameras were given explicit instructions to avoid giving any benefit to Frodo.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [FindinFreestyle]
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Don't worry. Just 3 or 4 more front page articles and Steinmetz will get her fit dialed.I doubt it. He's too busy being the world's biggest P5X apologist.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [fulla]
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Looks like Ryf had a faster run split than Carfrae.Ya, she had fastest bike and run splits and was only 4 sec behind the fastest swim split. She came close to reproducing Dave Scott's performance in October 1982 where he had the fastest splits in all three disciplines, but I would guess that there was considerably less competition on the men's side back then (3rd year of the race) than on the women's side now. In any case, Daniela certainly put on a very dominating performance.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [sportstats]
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Is there a way to sort by splits?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Thomas Gerlach]
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Thomas Gerlach wrote:
PBT_2009 wrote:
so the commentator just quoted the 7 mins lost by potts to be specifically due to the tires being 25c, and not because they were gatorskins w/ butyls...so he said likely no one is running "wide" tires. that ridiculous answer aside... can someone give us a real answer as to what % of pros are running 25s?
Not many. A few probably using 24c Turbo Cottons.
Rapp has/had stated he uses(d) 25c tires.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Billyk24]
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Billyk24 wrote:
Thomas Gerlach wrote:
PBT_2009 wrote:
so the commentator just quoted the 7 mins lost by potts to be specifically due to the tires being 25c, and not because they were gatorskins w/ butyls...so he said likely no one is running "wide" tires. that ridiculous answer aside... can someone give us a real answer as to what % of pros are running 25s?
Not many. A few probably using 24c Turbo Cottons.
Rapp has/had stated he uses(d) 25c tires.
Rapp runs turbo cottons. They only come in 24 or 26 mm. I believe he's running a 24/26 setup.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [stevej]
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Even the 24 measures 25 on wide rims
can someone give us a real answer as to what % of pros are running 25s?
Not many. A few probably using 24c Turbo Cottons.
Rapp has/had stated he uses(d) 25c tires.
Rapp runs turbo cottons. They only come in 24 or 26 mm. I believe he's running a 24/26 setup.
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stevej wrote:
Billyk24 wrote:
Thomas Gerlach wrote:
PBT_2009 wrote:
so the commentator just quoted the 7 mins lost by potts to be specifically due to the tires being 25c, and not because they were gatorskins w/ butyls...so he said likely no one is running "wide" tires. that ridiculous answer aside... can someone give us a real answer as to what % of pros are running 25s?
Not many. A few probably using 24c Turbo Cottons.
Rapp has/had stated he uses(d) 25c tires.
Rapp runs turbo cottons. They only come in 24 or 26 mm. I believe he's running a 24/26 setup.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Slowman]
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Cool! On the train to work this morning and I see Slowtwitch was quoted in the newspaper here in Zurich!
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [rob2681]
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [ericmulk]
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She came close to reproducing Dave Scott's performance in 1980 where he had the fastest splits in all three disciplines
In 1980, John Howard had a faster bike split - 4:28 v. 5:03. Although Dave won the race by an hour.
In 1980, John Howard had a faster bike split - 4:28 v. 5:03. Although Dave won the race by an hour.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [schroeder]
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schroeder wrote:
She came close to reproducing Dave Scott's performance in 1980 where he had the fastest splits in all three disciplines In 1980, John Howard had a faster bike split - 4:28 v. 5:03. Although Dave won the race by an hour.
OK, I stand corrected then. Looking back at the early 80s results, it looks like it was Oct '82 when Dave had the fastest splits in all 3 sports, at least among the top 100 finishers. He went 50:52/5:10:16/3:07:15 to go 9:08:23, with Tinley 2nd in 9:28:28. This tri226.de site has all the Hawaii results back to 1978, and the language is actually in English. :)
http://www.tri226.de/...e=en&list=hawaii
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [ericmulk]
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ericmulk wrote:
schroeder wrote:
She came close to reproducing Dave Scott's performance in 1980 where he had the fastest splits in all three disciplines In 1980, John Howard had a faster bike split - 4:28 v. 5:03. Although Dave won the race by an hour.
OK, I stand corrected then. Looking back at the early 80s results, it looks like it was Oct '82 when Dave had the fastest splits in all 3 sports, at least among the top 100 finishers. He went 50:52/5:10:16/3:07:15 to go 9:08:23, with Tinley 2nd in 9:28:28. This tri226.de site has all the Hawaii results back to 1978, and the language is actually in English. :)
http://www.tri226.de/...e=en&list=hawaii
Ha, I swam in college with the the fastest swimmer in 1982. Bill McCarthy who was a 200 fly guy. He finished about 200 m ahead of Dave Scott. I remember being surprised to see him get out of the water on the TV broadcast because it was about 4 years after I had stopped swimming. However, I don't know if he finished the race or not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr_9wfBVUH0
Now I see there were two races in 1982, so yeah, you are correct.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [schroeder]
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schroeder wrote:
ericmulk wrote:
schroeder wrote:
She came close to reproducing Dave Scott's performance in 1980 where he had the fastest splits in all three disciplines In 1980, John Howard had a faster bike split - 4:28 v. 5:03. Although Dave won the race by an hour.
OK, I stand corrected then. Looking back at the early 80s results, it looks like it was Oct '82 when Dave had the fastest splits in all 3 sports, at least among the top 100 finishers. He went 50:52/5:10:16/3:07:15 to go 9:08:23, with Tinley 2nd in 9:28:28. This tri226.de site has all the Hawaii results back to 1978, and the language is actually in English. :)
http://www.tri226.de/...e=en&list=hawaii
Ha, I swam in college with the the fastest swimmer in 1982. Bill McCarthy who was a 200 fly guy. He finished about 200 m ahead of Dave Scott. I remember being surprised to see him get out of the water on the TV broadcast because it was about 4 years after I had stopped swimming. However, I don't know if he finished the race or not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr_9wfBVUH0
Now I see there were two races in 1982, so yeah, you are correct.
Swimming is such a small world. Where did you and Bill swim???
"Anyone can be who they want to be IF they have the HUNGER and the DRIVE."
Did anyone ever find out what actually happened to Potts? Did her crash dismounting? get tangled up during the bike handoff? get taken out by someone else? I haven't been able to find anything on this after the web cast showed him laying on the ground trying to get to his feet.
John
John