Who did Armstrong incriminate in this "expose" ?

This was a very carefully crafted and managed charade designed to do one thing and one thing only; get the USADA off Lance Armstrong's back thereby allowing him to get his ass back on a bike. Lance admitted he took PEDs. Whoopdefrickindoo. Charlie Sheen admits he bangs porn stars!

Lance told snippets of the truth to paint the picture he wants you to see. Oprah gladly assisted.

Well said.

My wife and I watched and she looked at me and said "well?" what do you think? I said well....I think he said what he COULD say....it was a step in the right direction. I am a firm believer in triumph rises out of great tragedy and he really has the opportunity to be a crusader now....did he do irreputable damage YES..but for crying out loud its day f'ing one people of him admitting...sorry he hasn't risen from the ashes already and solved it all. In respects to Betsy.....she had an opportunity to look really good and she came off TO ME really crappy...like the whole thing was about her...Lance is in damage control and he doesn't want to bring more people into this I would imagine. there were other people in that room and maybe he wants to talk to them before he says something. I actually respected the fact that he didn't speak about the conversation between them.. I want to see how this plays out and if he puts the energy into cleaning up cycling like he did in bringing it down....it could really turn out to be a whole lot of good. We as a society love to see people fall, especially our heroes. No Lance was not my hero, I have known and raced against him since we were kids and he has always been an a$$hole and arrogant. I love all the orgs coming out saying well....saying sorry on Oprah isn't enough.....Who said it was? did he? i think he did the right thing by apologizing to certain people via phone or whatever first then the public. WADA and USADA will get their turn I hope to talk to him and see what his agenda is. I love all the self righteous people on here who have never done wrong and take glory in this. I agree....you people have a lot of hate inside you and that sucks for you.

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I would not call myself a hater.Definately not satisfied though.
He only admitted to the minimal amount to try and restore his image.
He is still lying about things (didn't dope in 2009/2010, connections with UCI).
So, no hate. Just dispointment.

No one.. just like no one in any interview betrayed anyone but Lance... so don't expect more from this. You people must have never watched Oprah before.

I don't think getting back to racing has much to do with it. He would not swallow his pride with an admission if it were just to race. He offered to turn on his long time backer, Thom Weisel. That would not happen simply so he can race a few age group triathlons. He is running scared. Whethe it is financial issues or fear of criminal charges I don't know.

Seems to me there are 3 goals he currently has:

1. Protect his assets
2. Stay out of prison
3. Tell the truth

These are not compatible with each other.

If he would tell the whole truth he would have to surrender the outcome, which he is unwilling to do with his "total control" mentality. Its seems as he's trying to get us to think about him as old Lance (version 1.0) and new Lance (version 2.0).

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When did that happen? That's interesting.

He's the nexus of it all, that's for sure. Weisel to Ochowicz to Stapleton with a dash of Eddie B and Carmichael. Also, Weisel is connected to Verbruggen.

My hypothesis? UCI needed a Mark McGuire/Sammy Sosa to save cycling after Festina. Weisel really wanted to win the TDF. Nike and Trek and Oakley really wanted to sell stuff. A star was born.

At any rate, Lance probably knows all and this means nothing until he gets under oath with the USADA or the Feds, whomever gets him first.

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Lance could quite easily have thumbed his nose at the world and ridden off into the sunset (not in a sanctioned race) to spend his ill gotten gains. He would have lost his tour titles, the Olympic medals, perhaps even his god like status with the yellow bracelet brigade, but his money was 100% safe. He as not going to fail any tests and he had won every civil case relating to drug accusations. Nobody would ever challenge him again in print or in a court room.

Lance, as things stand today, has complete immunity from any criminal charges. Of course new evidence might come to light of crimes we don't yet know about, but right now he is safe; which is why he was very careful not to answer any potentially incriminating questions. His biggest potential threat is a RICO charge, or wire fraud, money laundering, drug trafficking. If the feds go after him on a racketeering charge, he could be in deep doodoo which is why he was adamant that he didn't force anyone else to take drugs and that he wasn't the boss.

He was, until yesterday, in the same boat as Barry Bonds rich and retired. The very best in his day at what he did, a hero to many, but a doper; and as the years go by fewer and fewer people believe the bullshit stories anymore. He was rich beyond the dreams of everyone on this site, homes in half a dozen beautiful locations, jets, cars, champagne. Lance had it all, but it wasn't enough. Lance wanted to compete. He wanted to compete so badly, he put all the money on the line to get back in the good graces of the USADA.

He will now lose all of his tour victory money, he will have to repay several successful lawsuit settlments, and he will find his mailbox today filled with lawsuits from every other person who crossed his path in the last 20 years. I suspect this is 100% about his desire to compete in triathalon and nothing else.

Frankie is about to come on the Doug Gottleib show on CBS Sports radio....link below.

http://betaplayer.radio.com/player/cbs-sports-radio

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I do not think tri is THAT important to him. You cna be sure that there is more than we currently know.

Anybody notice he first claimed that they didn't do EPO during the races (because that was when they were tested) but then he admitted that "Motoman" was true. Wasn't Motoman's entire purpose to provide EPO during the race?

I'm not sure. Its my best guess. A photo or a tape of Lance giving Pat McQuaid a brown paper bag full of cash might surface tomorrow and you'll be right and I'll be wrong, but as things currently stand, the only good reason I can see for a "confession" is to get back into racing.

A lot will be determined by how he/usada deal with the info he has. I hope if usada is consistent it gives lance some leeway if he has info on a fully corrupt sport.

I certainly don't want him in the sport, but if usada is going on their stance that it is about improving the sport, the info lance has could be a complete game changer or atleast the embarrassment/kick in the pants it needs to clean itself up.

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It is hard for me to believe that he would even tell the truth under oath, even now, especially after he failed to do so when he was already under oath. To him, under oath doesn't seem to mean what it should. Whatever he would happen to say to USADA or the Feds, I would take with a grain of salt, especially if he said he didn't dope in 09/10.

I thought he provided the blood.

Yea but she minimizes her own husbands doping and lying.

That isn't true.

1. IME, - no Lance "haters" on any of these forums, - just realistic evaluations...

2. Was there an expectation that he would actually confess to the real crime of running a doping program, & coercing others to dope? (not hardly).

3. Fortunately, - he did come across as the selfish A$$hole & general bad person that he really is.

He is not going to show contrition about being a jerk, a liar, & ruining people. He is also not going to confess for essentially forcing others to dope. But he is also not going to be "clearing his name"

Question: How is he going to make a living now? Will he be a paid celebrity speaker? How much money could he possibly make as a participating athlete?

I agree with this 100%, but think the order is (2), (1), (3). I think he has done about as much of (3) as he could during his interview with Oprah, within the constraints imposed by items (1) and (2).

The thing that I still can't figure out is: Who does Lance think Lance (version 2.0) is? He's too old to seriously think of himself as a professional athlete. The typical former-pro-athlete careers like "coach", "product whore", or "anonymous guy living in the big house on the hill, with all the neighborhood kids wonder who that guy was when he was young" don't appear to be options for him.

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Anybody notice he first claimed that they didn't do EPO during the races (because that was when they were tested) but then he admitted that "Motoman" was true. Wasn't Motoman's entire purpose to provide EPO during the race?

I thought he provided the blood.

My memory from the Hamilton book was that they weren't doing the blood transfusions at that point (this is 1999) and that it was all EPO.

The first part of Lance Armstrong�s doping confession to Oprah Winfrey drew about 4.3 million viewers to OWN on Thursday night, according to preliminary Nielsen ratings released on Friday.About 3.17 million watched the first telecast of the interview at 9 p.m. on Thursday. Another 1.12 million watched the repeat at 10:30 p.m., bringing the total and unduplicated audience to 4.3 million, according to a spokeswoman for the channel.

Previously, the title of highest-rated telecast belonged to Ms. Winfrey�s interview of Whitney Houston�s daughter, Bobbi Kristina, and her family last March, one month after Ms. Houston died. That program attracted 3.5 million viewers to the channel.

1. Meants to say "halfs", not "halts".

2. I'm assuming he's clean of late since he probably got tested after his IM 70.3 podiums. Nothing's saying to the contrary.

H.

Clean because he did not test positive. How quaint.

I stand corrected. Another lie it is....;)
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1. Meants to say "halfs", not "halts".

2. I'm assuming he's clean of late since he probably got tested after his IM 70.3 podiums. Nothing's saying to the contrary.

H.[/quote] Huh???? Assuming because he got tested............well how about all thiose other tests then? Was that supposed to be in pink?

There's no way on earth that he could ever show an honest to god false positive
and have anyone believe him. Now that would be funny.

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