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Re: IronCowboy - Conquer 100 (100 IM distances/100 CONSECUTIVE DAYS)- results page [WhittleFit] [ In reply to ]
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Day 31:
Swim time: 1:25:51
Bike time: 6:28:30
Run time: 6:59:17

Total time: 16:09:29

It looks like he is holding steady and if the peloton gets bigger with better weather, the guy may be home free. At this point, it seems like he is holding on a roughly repeatable pace that is avoiding the death spiral of not enough sleep and recovery? Anyone on the ground with him able to comment?
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Re: IronCowboy - Conquer 100 (100 IM distances/100 CONSECUTIVE DAYS)- results page [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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The peloton over the weekend ballooned and then settled back down on a Monday. I think he'll get the easiest rides F-Sun.

Washed up footy player turned Triathlete.
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Re: IronCowboy - Conquer 100 (100 IM distances/100 CONSECUTIVE DAYS)- results page [chuy] [ In reply to ]
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chuy wrote:
They help support your foot/leg. Not sure exactly on the science of how they work but i believe they redistribute weight/pressure to support when walking/running (dont quote me on this). Basically when youre leg/foot hurts a lot when walking you put one of these on and all of a sudden you can keep on going.

Transfers load or force to above the knee. Effectively reducing the demand on the lower leg, ankles and feet. A bit like the carbon setup used by Oscar Pistorius.

Think of using your arms to support yourself on the treadmill. It doesn't take much transfer to feel like your legs are hardly hitting the deck.

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Re: IronCowboy - Conquer 100 (100 IM distances/100 CONSECUTIVE DAYS)- results page [biglazybum] [ In reply to ]
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biglazybum wrote:
chuy wrote:
They help support your foot/leg. Not sure exactly on the science of how they work but i believe they redistribute weight/pressure to support when walking/running (dont quote me on this). Basically when youre leg/foot hurts a lot when walking you put one of these on and all of a sudden you can keep on going.

Thanks. That makes sense. Seems like a pretty extreme measure but I guess that is par for the course here.

There was a post on his Facebook that said he hoped to start running again in mid April after using it.
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Re: IronCowboy - Conquer 100 (100 IM distances/100 CONSECUTIVE DAYS)- results page [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]
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The peloton over the weekend ballooned and then settled back down on a Monday. I think he'll get the easiest rides F-Sun.

He could probably get a good group of horses every weekend to give him some sub 4.5 - 5 hrs draft rides while completely freewheeling and eating a full normal human lunch and barely doing 100W. Then he would have to work harder during the week, but at least get relatively restful days. Heck, Lance got the blue train to give him that kind of service for good chunks of the TdF (maybe not quite freewheeling at 100W but all relative). Heck, he should get Lance and George out from "The Move" and maybe get a whole whack of USPS and Disco Alumni to drive the train. Maybe get Jan and the T-Mobile crew over too. Put Travis Tygart in pit lane and its a full on ST Explosion. There would be so much traffic to this website that it would crash the internet worse than anything Kim Kardashian could pull off.
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Re: IronCowboy - Conquer 100 (100 IM distances/100 CONSECUTIVE DAYS)- results page [WhittleFit] [ In reply to ]
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Day 31:
Swim time: 1:25:51
Bike time: 6:28:30
Run time: 6:59:17

Total time: 16:09:29

Day 32:
Swim time: 1:25:48
Bike time: 6:29:55
Run time: 7:07:52

Total time: 16:10:04
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Re: IronCowboy - Conquer 100 (100 IM distances/100 CONSECUTIVE DAYS)- results page [WhittleFit] [ In reply to ]
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Seems like things are starting to click. Will be interested to see how he does when he starts running without the carbon thing.

"The person on top of the mountain didn't fall there." - unkown

also rule 5
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Re: IronCowboy - Conquer 100 (100 IM distances/100 CONSECUTIVE DAYS)- results page [SharkFM] [ In reply to ]
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SharkFM wrote:
chuy wrote:
They help support your foot/leg. Not sure exactly on the science of how they work but i believe they redistribute weight/pressure to support when walking/running (dont quote me on this). Basically when youre leg/foot hurts a lot when walking you put one of these on and all of a sudden you can keep on going.


Transfers load or force to above the knee. Effectively reducing the demand on the lower leg, ankles and feet. A bit like the carbon setup used by Oscar Pistorius.

Think of using your arms to support yourself on the treadmill. It doesn't take much transfer to feel like your legs are hardly hitting the deck.


What is the model he’s using? I see various Ossur brands during internet searches, and some really interesting stuff the Army has developed to assist wounded soldiers in walking again. With chronic knee pain ending the careers of many runners, the further development of these braces, possibly due to the IC publicity, would be fantastic.
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Re: IronCowboy - Conquer 100 (100 IM distances/100 CONSECUTIVE DAYS)- results page [vonschnapps] [ In reply to ]
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well done james keep plugging away ,

regardless of how IC is doing this challenge ,surely credit is due for how he is coping mentally and physically to 15 + hr days
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Re: IronCowboy - Conquer 100 (100 IM distances/100 CONSECUTIVE DAYS)- results page [WhittleFit] [ In reply to ]
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WhittleFit wrote:
Day 31:
Swim time: 1:25:51
Bike time: 6:28:30
Run time: 6:59:17

Total time: 16:09:29

Day 32:
Swim time: 1:25:48
Bike time: 6:29:55
Run time: 7:07:52

Total time: 16:10:04

The last two back to back IM''s were only half a minute apart. While math does not totally add up (maybe transitions not shown), it really does not matter. This guy in a groove. I think on a different level, all of us can relate going to the track and doing 400m repeats or going to the pool and doing 100m repeats and being able to tell "time of day" based on interval times/pace etc. but at the rate IC is going, the Japanese Rail Authority will start setting the Shinkansen schedule (that bullet train schedule) based on IC's splits.

An announcement like this:

"Arriving at Shinjuku station a station, train number 45 from Osaka, at 14:25 Ironcowboy standard time. Connections to Narita airport at platform 50 at 14:45 IC time, arrival at Narita Terminal One 16:15...please ensure you do not leave baggage unattended "
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Re: IronCowboy - Conquer 100 (100 IM distances/100 CONSECUTIVE DAYS)- results page [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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What do you mean almost the same time? Day 31 was his first swim in over 10 days that was outside of
1:25:42-1:25:49 (by 2 whole seconds). ;-)

Tri or tri not; this is no du. (--- with apologies to Yoda.) Slow triathlete who survived Huntsville, Lelystadt, Colmar, Fontanil, and
Szekesfehervar/Lake Velence. Arbor hydration specialist in a kid's park in Monterrey 4 times in the 1990s (and in the pits in 1994).
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Re: IronCowboy - Conquer 100 (100 IM distances/100 CONSECUTIVE DAYS)- results page [madMike100] [ In reply to ]
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madMike100 wrote:
What do you mean almost the same time? Day 31 was his first swim in over 10 days that was outside of
1:25:42-1:25:49 (by 2 whole seconds). ;-)

He is doing 100m intervals on the 2min so the only time variation would come from the last 100m. If you can't stay within 10sec of a slow, relaxed pace for 100m, something is wrong.
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Re: IronCowboy - Conquer 100 (100 IM distances/100 CONSECUTIVE DAYS)- results page [Mugen_EP] [ In reply to ]
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Mugen_EP wrote:
madMike100 wrote:
What do you mean almost the same time? Day 31 was his first swim in over 10 days that was outside of
1:25:42-1:25:49 (by 2 whole seconds). ;-)


He is doing 100m intervals on the 2min so the only time variation would come from the last 100m. If you can't stay within 10sec of a slow, relaxed pace for 100m, something is wrong.

I think after you have covered 4200 miles of training in a span of only a month and spent more time exercising in that month than anything else in life, then I think you and I are qualified to talk about how "slow" or "relaxed" something is. Until then, maybe we just accept that he's actually doing a decent job on his event on his rules.
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Re: IronCowboy - Conquer 100 (100 IM distances/100 CONSECUTIVE DAYS)- results page [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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devashish_paul wrote:
Mugen_EP wrote:
madMike100 wrote:
What do you mean almost the same time? Day 31 was his first swim in over 10 days that was outside of
1:25:42-1:25:49 (by 2 whole seconds). ;-)


He is doing 100m intervals on the 2min so the only time variation would come from the last 100m. If you can't stay within 10sec of a slow, relaxed pace for 100m, something is wrong.


I think after you have covered 4200 miles of training in a span of only a month and spent more time exercising in that month than anything else in life, then I think you and I are qualified to talk about how "slow" or "relaxed" something is. Until then, maybe we just accept that he's actually doing a decent job on his event on his rules.

I don't think we need create our own event with our own rules to be "qualified" to have an opinion on what slow and relaxed pace is for 100m. Anyone with any basic experience swimming can understand its not hard to be consistent for 100m when you are in a wetsuit, in a pool, drafting. Again, the only variation would come from the final 100m interval.

Now given all that, I can still accept he is doing a decent job at completing his exercise for the day based on his own parameters.
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Re: IronCowboy - Conquer 100 (100 IM distances/100 CONSECUTIVE DAYS)- results page [Mugen_EP] [ In reply to ]
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My response was a joke, as indicated by the end.

Also, unless he's an idiot, he's swimming 100-yard intervals, or he's always taking the same break.

His time is a little under 86 minutes, which, with the consistency, implies 43 laps. If he was in a 100 meter pool and he was doing 3.8km, obviously he would do 38 laps; if he was completing 2.4 miles it would round to 39.

On the other hand, if he's in a 100 yard pool, he would have to do 42 laps to complete 3.8km, but a little over 42 (42.24) to complete 2.4 miles, thus explaining what appears to be 43 laps.

Tri or tri not; this is no du. (--- with apologies to Yoda.) Slow triathlete who survived Huntsville, Lelystadt, Colmar, Fontanil, and
Szekesfehervar/Lake Velence. Arbor hydration specialist in a kid's park in Monterrey 4 times in the 1990s (and in the pits in 1994).
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Re: IronCowboy - Conquer 100 (100 IM distances/100 CONSECUTIVE DAYS)- results page [madMike100] [ In reply to ]
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I understood and took your post as intended, a joke. I just replied to you since you had responded to Dev, who seemed quite impressed with the consistency, and I wanted to stay within the conversation.

Based on the livestream of his swims, he is swimming an even number of laps, since he's finishing where he starts. I'm not aware of the pool length or number of daily laps he completes, just that he is doing 100m on 2min intervals.
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Re: IronCowboy - Conquer 100 (100 IM distances/100 CONSECUTIVE DAYS)- results page [Mugen_EP] [ In reply to ]
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Mugen_EP wrote:
devashish_paul wrote:
Mugen_EP wrote:
madMike100 wrote:
What do you mean almost the same time? Day 31 was his first swim in over 10 days that was outside of
1:25:42-1:25:49 (by 2 whole seconds). ;-)


He is doing 100m intervals on the 2min so the only time variation would come from the last 100m. If you can't stay within 10sec of a slow, relaxed pace for 100m, something is wrong.


I think after you have covered 4200 miles of training in a span of only a month and spent more time exercising in that month than anything else in life, then I think you and I are qualified to talk about how "slow" or "relaxed" something is. Until then, maybe we just accept that he's actually doing a decent job on his event on his rules.


I don't think we need create our own event with our own rules to be "qualified" to have an opinion on what slow and relaxed pace is for 100m. Anyone with any basic experience swimming can understand its not hard to be consistent for 100m when you are in a wetsuit, in a pool, drafting. Again, the only variation would come from the final 100m interval.

Now given all that, I can still accept he is doing a decent job at completing his exercise for the day based on his own parameters.

My point is you did not need to engage in a pompous put down of what he has managed to consistently achieve. Sorry, but that slow relaxed pace that you claim gets hard to pull off. You nor I have any clue what it takes to keep doing that after 30x16hrs days in a row. We're not qualified to proclaim how easy or not it is.

Sure, I can pinpoint what my pace will be at the end of 30 days of swimming 4.5km per day (I have done done 120+ km of swimming per month several times, its no big deal). But tack on the full IM duration bike and 6-7 hrs of hiking and its a completely different game that few know anything about.
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Re: IronCowboy - Conquer 100 (100 IM distances/100 CONSECUTIVE DAYS)- results page [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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devashish_paul wrote:
Mugen_EP wrote:
devashish_paul wrote:
Mugen_EP wrote:
madMike100 wrote:
What do you mean almost the same time? Day 31 was his first swim in over 10 days that was outside of
1:25:42-1:25:49 (by 2 whole seconds). ;-)


He is doing 100m intervals on the 2min so the only time variation would come from the last 100m. If you can't stay within 10sec of a slow, relaxed pace for 100m, something is wrong.


I think after you have covered 4200 miles of training in a span of only a month and spent more time exercising in that month than anything else in life, then I think you and I are qualified to talk about how "slow" or "relaxed" something is. Until then, maybe we just accept that he's actually doing a decent job on his event on his rules.


I don't think we need create our own event with our own rules to be "qualified" to have an opinion on what slow and relaxed pace is for 100m. Anyone with any basic experience swimming can understand its not hard to be consistent for 100m when you are in a wetsuit, in a pool, drafting. Again, the only variation would come from the final 100m interval.

Now given all that, I can still accept he is doing a decent job at completing his exercise for the day based on his own parameters.


My point is you did not need to engage in a pompous put down of what he has managed to consistently achieve. Sorry, but that slow relaxed pace that you claim gets hard to pull off. You nor I have any clue what it takes to keep doing that after 30x16hrs days in a row. We're not qualified to proclaim how easy or not it is.

Sure, I can pinpoint what my pace will be at the end of 30 days of swimming 4.5km per day (I have done done 120+ km of swimming per month several times, its no big deal). But tack on the full IM duration bike and 6-7 hrs of hiking and its a completely different game that few know anything about.

You're getting way too worked up here Dev.

I wasn't being pompous or putting down what he has done. Reread the last line of my last post. I was merely stating facts. If he can't hold a single, steady 100m (within 10 sec)...remember we are only comparing the last 100m interval of each day, then something is wrong.

Facts over feelings. I have no emotional interest here.
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Re: IronCowboy - Conquer 100 (100 IM distances/100 CONSECUTIVE DAYS)- results page [Mugen_EP] [ In reply to ]
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Mugen_EP wrote:
You're getting way too worked up here Dev.

I wasn't being pompous or putting down what he has done. Reread the last line of my last post. I was merely stating facts. If he can't hold a single, steady 100m (within 10 sec)...remember we are only comparing the last 100m interval of each day, then something is wrong.

Facts over feelings. I have no emotional interest here.

I didn't read "slow and relaxed" as a pompous putdown either. We all have slow and steady paces for s/b/r and I would expect any of us to stay in that range for a challenge like this. Slow is relative to his max abilities, not that he's a "slowpoke."

Hell! I'd have started day 1 coming in at 1:20-1:25 (meters) and blown myself up in week 1! So slow and steady is a compliment as far as I'm concerned.
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Re: IronCowboy - Conquer 100 (100 IM distances/100 CONSECUTIVE DAYS)- results page [Mugen_EP] [ In reply to ]
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Mugen_EP wrote:
devashish_paul wrote:
Mugen_EP wrote:
devashish_paul wrote:
Mugen_EP wrote:
madMike100 wrote:
What do you mean almost the same time? Day 31 was his first swim in over 10 days that was outside of
1:25:42-1:25:49 (by 2 whole seconds). ;-)


He is doing 100m intervals on the 2min so the only time variation would come from the last 100m. If you can't stay within 10sec of a slow, relaxed pace for 100m, something is wrong.


I think after you have covered 4200 miles of training in a span of only a month and spent more time exercising in that month than anything else in life, then I think you and I are qualified to talk about how "slow" or "relaxed" something is. Until then, maybe we just accept that he's actually doing a decent job on his event on his rules.


I don't think we need create our own event with our own rules to be "qualified" to have an opinion on what slow and relaxed pace is for 100m. Anyone with any basic experience swimming can understand its not hard to be consistent for 100m when you are in a wetsuit, in a pool, drafting. Again, the only variation would come from the final 100m interval.

Now given all that, I can still accept he is doing a decent job at completing his exercise for the day based on his own parameters.


My point is you did not need to engage in a pompous put down of what he has managed to consistently achieve. Sorry, but that slow relaxed pace that you claim gets hard to pull off. You nor I have any clue what it takes to keep doing that after 30x16hrs days in a row. We're not qualified to proclaim how easy or not it is.

Sure, I can pinpoint what my pace will be at the end of 30 days of swimming 4.5km per day (I have done done 120+ km of swimming per month several times, its no big deal). But tack on the full IM duration bike and 6-7 hrs of hiking and its a completely different game that few know anything about.


You're getting way too worked up here Dev.

I wasn't being pompous or putting down what he has done. Reread the last line of my last post. I was merely stating facts. If he can't hold a single, steady 100m (within 10 sec)...remember we are only comparing the last 100m interval of each day, then something is wrong.

Facts over feelings. I have no emotional interest here.

I am just saying that you sounded pompous from your ivory tower because you actually don't have an idea if even holding 2 min per 100 yards is easy or slow after a month of IC 140.6 because almost all of us have never done 30x140.6 in a month.

Its not "fact" that 2 min per 100m is easy or slow. It is relative to the work done over the month. If he is normally a 1:20 per 100m swimmer then 2 min may not be a huge deal. If he is 1:45 suddenly 2 min gets tough that may days later. If he has any tweak in his leg, or back, even with wetsuit, or cramps, its not so easy.

Walk a 30x140.6 miles in his shoes before declaring if what he is doing is slow or not.
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Re: IronCowboy - Conquer 100 (100 IM distances/100 CONSECUTIVE DAYS)- results page [AKCrafty] [ In reply to ]
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I think you may have done Ironman Canada Whistler on a seriously badass course with 2200m of climing. James put in this performance in 2014 on a 35C day:

https://www.sportstats.ca/...id=19040&bib=161


1:17 swim
5:41 bike with 2200m climbing
4:09 run


OK so after a month of Ironmans, 7 years older, he's only swimming 7-8 min slower and almost never wavering from that pace. And he's bringing the rest of his performance daily into a repeatable range.




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Re: IronCowboy - Conquer 100 (100 IM distances/100 CONSECUTIVE DAYS)- results page [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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devashish_paul wrote:
Walk a 30x140.6 miles in his shoes before declaring if what he is doing is slow or not.

I think there's a misinterpretation/misunderstanding of what is meant by "slow" here. I don't think the intent was to call his times slow. I think "slow" is being used as a comparison to his own max speed, whatever that is.
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Re: IronCowboy - Conquer 100 (100 IM distances/100 CONSECUTIVE DAYS)- results page [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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devashish_paul wrote:
James put in this performance in 2014 on a 35C day:

https://www.sportstats.ca/...id=19040&bib=161


1:17 swim
5:41 bike with 2200m climbing
4:09 run

OK so after a month of Ironmans, 7 years older, he's only swimming 7-8 min slower and almost never wavering from that pace. And he's bringing the rest of his performance daily into a repeatable range.

...*In a pool. Pushing off walls. In a wetsuit. With a perfect draft. Fueling between intervals.

Lets not compare his real outside accomplishments with this perfect environment he's created for himself.
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Re: IronCowboy - Conquer 100 (100 IM distances/100 CONSECUTIVE DAYS)- results page [AKCrafty] [ In reply to ]
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AKCrafty wrote:
devashish_paul wrote:
Walk a 30x140.6 miles in his shoes before declaring if what he is doing is slow or not.


I think there's a misinterpretation/misunderstanding of what is meant by "slow" here. I don't think the intent was to call his times slow. I think "slow" is being used as a comparison to his own max speed, whatever that is.

Thank you for attempting to inject some logic here. If I was going to point out slow, it would be those 7+hr marathon scenic walks he takes daily.
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Re: IronCowboy - Conquer 100 (100 IM distances/100 CONSECUTIVE DAYS)- results page [Mugen_EP] [ In reply to ]
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Mugen_EP wrote:
AKCrafty wrote:
devashish_paul wrote:
Walk a 30x140.6 miles in his shoes before declaring if what he is doing is slow or not.


I think there's a misinterpretation/misunderstanding of what is meant by "slow" here. I don't think the intent was to call his times slow. I think "slow" is being used as a comparison to his own max speed, whatever that is.


Thank you for attempting to inject some logic here. If I was going to point out slow, it would be those 7+hr marathon scenic walks he takes daily.

Well there you go again. Have you tried even three x 42.2km walks in three days? Before calling them slow, maybe walk some of those miles and report back. This is why I am sayiing that none of this is slow considering how much fatigue he is carryiing into all of this.
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