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Re: IronCowboy - Conquer 100 (100 IM distances/100 CONSECUTIVE DAYS)- results page [WhittleFit] [ In reply to ]
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WhittleFit wrote:
WhittleFit wrote:
Day 17:
Swim time: 1:25:44
Bike time: 6:50:03
Run time: 7:33:44

Total time: 16:53:53


Day 18:
Swim time: 1:25:48
Bike time: 7:02:05
Run time: 7:06:17

Total time: 17:37:27


Day 19:
Swim time: 1:25:41
Bike time: 6:39:02
Run time: 7:09:27

Total time: 16:21:30

Day 20:
Swim time: 1:26:03
Bike time: 6:57:03
Run time: 7:03:43

Total time: 16:42:14
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Re: IronCowboy - Conquer 100 (100 IM distances/100 CONSECUTIVE DAYS)- results page [WhittleFit] [ In reply to ]
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16:42:14 today according to his facebook. Still a long way off his goal times but a great improvement over last week.
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Re: IronCowboy - Conquer 100 (100 IM distances/100 CONSECUTIVE DAYS)- results page [SayHey Kid] [ In reply to ]
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I’ve found these discussions far more interesting than the Iron Cowboy adventure itself.

To me, the Iron Cowboy is the Kim Kardashian of Multisport. He has created himself as a marketable product. We think of the Iron Cowboy as just James Lawrence, but he has made it into an organisation. He is the CEO and the face of the organisation. As far as I know, the organisation known as the ‘Iron Cowboy’ is the only source of income for his family. His family are all employees of the company (maybe not with the IRS, but effectively they are). He’s been going for a few years now, so I’d be surprised if he didn’t have other employees outside of his immediate family - eg. The lead rider who he drafts behind. Note that I’m not saying the Iron Cowboy is a registered company, rather that is how he is treating it.

Triathlon Taren did a video with James showing off his HUGE gym. Cannot remember the exact details (and don’t want to watch that video again), but he runs a fitness/boot camp like squad. So obviously these people pay to train with/under him. He was also running several different events that would have produced income. The success of all these endeavours requires him to maintain his level of fame.

Another poster noted that he hasn’t done a ‘real’ triathlon in over 6 years. Fact is, he is not fast. For someone who doesn’t have limitations on how much they can train, I would call him SLOW. James likes to see (and promote) himself as a Superhero. So doing a ‘real’ triathlon against other competitors does him (nor his organisation) any favours.

His 50/50/50 effort is done. Would have made a nice amount off Netflix, but that is all over. He needs something else to keep the money flowing in. So 100 in 100 is the obvious next step.

Some people have mentioned that it must be nice to have that much time off work. Or, how can you neglect your family for so long. This IS his work, and he is working with his family. I’d suggest that on this adventure he is engaging more time with his family than a lot of us.

What he is producing at the moment is a ‘Reality TV’ program. Adding the Guinness Book of Records makes it more appealing to viewers. Pissing off a lot Slowtwitch forum readers means that by Day 19 he has already generated 27 pages of discussion. How many people only know about this event because the topic hasn’t left the forum’s front page in 20 days?

Rait Ratasepp’s efforts are a million times more impressive. But until this thread, how many people knew about it. Would he have been far more famous if he had created some controversy rather than simply obey all the rules and go really fast. The Iron Cowboy is only interested in generating publicity, because that is what makes him (and his family/organisation) money.
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Re: IronCowboy - Conquer 100 (100 IM distances/100 CONSECUTIVE DAYS)- results page [fareastman] [ In reply to ]
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fareastman wrote:
ericmulk wrote:
CanUsa wrote:
Twotter wrote:
Yawn, this whole thing isn't anything except a 100 day long con. He is a doper. Doesn't matter if it is allowed under "his rules" and that WADA can't do anything b/c of whatever...he is still a doper. He has to dope to go 140.6 miles everyday.

Really, that is the best response to all of his posts....Doper

I'd love to see pictures of his "IC" branded cars/trucks/RVs all with a large DOPER sticker on the back

Whenever this guy eventually tours around the country to tri clubs to gives talks, the first question asked should always be "How does it feel to be a doper?"...."Is all of this diminished by the fact that you are a doper and had to dope to do it?"

He might as well start taking EPO, blood bags, testosterone, etc....if you are going to allow lightweight doping under your rules, you might as well go heavyweight and allow it the vale of "my race, my rules....haters!"


In case anyone was wondering, it was 9 times. 🤦â€â™‚ï¸ðŸ™„
Keep saying it, eventually everyone might believe it.


What was 9 times??? I'm not making any connection here.


The number of times he (may have) libeled the IC.

Ok, I'll bite - what exactly is libelous in what I said? The WADA code says IV use is considering doping. IC freely advertises and admits to IV use. If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, it's probably a duck. In this case, it is 100% certain that it is a duck
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Re: IronCowboy - Conquer 100 (100 IM distances/100 CONSECUTIVE DAYS)- results page [RobInOz] [ In reply to ]
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RobInOz wrote:
I’ve found these discussions far more interesting than the Iron Cowboy adventure itself.

To me, the Iron Cowboy is the Kim Kardashian of Multisport. He has created himself as a marketable product. We think of the Iron Cowboy as just James Lawrence, but he has made it into an organisation. He is the CEO and the face of the organisation. As far as I know, the organisation known as the ‘Iron Cowboy’ is the only source of income for his family. His family are all employees of the company (maybe not with the IRS, but effectively they are). He’s been going for a few years now, so I’d be surprised if he didn’t have other employees outside of his immediate family - eg. The lead rider who he drafts behind. Note that I’m not saying the Iron Cowboy is a registered company, rather that is how he is treating it.

Triathlon Taren did a video with James showing off his HUGE gym. Cannot remember the exact details (and don’t want to watch that video again), but he runs a fitness/boot camp like squad. So obviously these people pay to train with/under him. He was also running several different events that would have produced income. The success of all these endeavours requires him to maintain his level of fame.

Another poster noted that he hasn’t done a ‘real’ triathlon in over 6 years. Fact is, he is not fast. For someone who doesn’t have limitations on how much they can train, I would call him SLOW. James likes to see (and promote) himself as a Superhero. So doing a ‘real’ triathlon against other competitors does him (nor his organisation) any favours.

His 50/50/50 effort is done. Would have made a nice amount off Netflix, but that is all over. He needs something else to keep the money flowing in. So 100 in 100 is the obvious next step.

Some people have mentioned that it must be nice to have that much time off work. Or, how can you neglect your family for so long. This IS his work, and he is working with his family. I’d suggest that on this adventure he is engaging more time with his family than a lot of us.

What he is producing at the moment is a ‘Reality TV’ program. Adding the Guinness Book of Records makes it more appealing to viewers. Pissing off a lot Slowtwitch forum readers means that by Day 19 he has already generated 27 pages of discussion. How many people only know about this event because the topic hasn’t left the forum’s front page in 20 days?

Rait Ratasepp’s efforts are a million times more impressive. But until this thread, how many people knew about it. Would he have been far more famous if he had created some controversy rather than simply obey all the rules and go really fast. The Iron Cowboy is only interested in generating publicity, because that is what makes him (and his family/organisation) money.


To put it in context:

  1. No foreign specatators allowed at Olympic games, no thread on ST
  2. Ageless Cameron Brown racing again at IM NZ next week (if it is on), no thread on ST
  3. NCAA Swimming championships happen, not a whince on ST (yes, an actual indoor amateur sport event happened)
  4. Froome starts his come back at UAE tour, not a single thread on ST
  5. Wout Van Aert and Mathew Van Der Poel get beaten at Milano San Remo yesterday, no threads
  6. Over 16K views and 650+ posts on this thread.

Who is the winner on ST?

in 15 days of IM's James did more exercise than I had all year. I think that aspect is cool. The guys in Paris Nice had a "24 hrs" training week, which James does in 1.5 days and yes, James is barely breaking a sweat, but when you look at it in this context, its crazy. With 16-17 hrs training days, James probably max's out at 6 hrs per night of sleep (maybe). This part is the most impressive. Whenever I do a 5-6 hrs training day, it takes me forever to get going the next day. There is no way I could get in the pool and knock off a standard 3800m swim in EXACTLY THE SAME TIME, daily for 20 days in a row.

All the misrepresentation part of what an Ironcowboyman is or not (he did just fished two decas of Ironcowboyman) is annoying as hell (I don't like his misrepresentation, but we're in 2021, and the values today on what people claim have just been watered down all around by social media and the internet. Just during this pandemic, I have had friends say they did PB's in all kinds of things and when I ask if they stopped their GPS for breaks, or traffic lights the answer is "Its on autopause" meaning they get a break. In real racing the clock keeps going.
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Re: IronCowboy - Conquer 100 (100 IM distances/100 CONSECUTIVE DAYS)- results page [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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devashish_paul wrote:


To put it in context:

  1. No foreign specatators allowed at Olympic games, no thread on ST
  2. Ageless Cameron Brown racing again at IM NZ next week (if it is on), no thread on ST
  3. NCAA Swimming championships happen, not a whince on ST (yes, an actual indoor amateur sport event happened)
  4. Froome starts his come back at UAE tour, not a single thread on ST
  5. Wout Van Aert and Mathew Van Der Poel get beaten at Milano San Remo yesterday, no threads
  6. Over 16K views and 650+ posts on this thread.

Who is the winner on ST?[/quote]
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Yep and there was an actual International Ultra Triathlon Association event held in Florida last week and of course no interest at all.
Florida Anvil Ultra 2021 (usaultratri.com)
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Re: IronCowboy - Conquer 100 (100 IM distances/100 CONSECUTIVE DAYS)- results page [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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devashish_paul wrote:

To put it in context:

  1. No foreign specatators allowed at Olympic games, no thread on ST
  2. Ageless Cameron Brown racing again at IM NZ next week (if it is on), no thread on ST
  3. NCAA Swimming championships happen, not a whince on ST (yes, an actual indoor amateur sport event happened)
  4. Froome starts his come back at UAE tour, not a single thread on ST
  5. Wout Van Aert and Mathew Van Der Poel get beaten at Milano San Remo yesterday, no threads
  6. Over 16K views and 650+ posts on this thread.

Who is the winner on ST? .

This is a great post, and really points out the hypocrisy of taking more notice of something most seem to dislike than actual real sporting events. Triathletes only have themselves to blame.
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Re: IronCowboy - Conquer 100 (100 IM distances/100 CONSECUTIVE DAYS)- results page [SayHey Kid] [ In reply to ]
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Regardless of how, what he did before, and what he is doing now requires a high level of determination, dedication and desire.

I think a great message out of this, and a philosophy that I advocate, is that anyone can do an Ironman if they want too. Showing that someone can do so many in a row reenforces that message.

I do not condone cheating but he is only racing himself and there is no harm to others.

Good luck to him.
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Re: IronCowboy - Conquer 100 (100 IM distances/100 CONSECUTIVE DAYS)- results page [triordie1994] [ In reply to ]
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I think you just proved everyone's point when they point out that he is not following rules and is being deceptive.

As many pointed out, he is exercising a bunch of days in a role doing things that not exactly like in an ironman and taking IVs and doing things that are illegal during a race.
So he is not showing that anyone can do an Ironman, he is just showing that anyone can exercise and that could be problematic for people that might actually try to do an Ironman race.

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Re: IronCowboy - Conquer 100 (100 IM distances/100 CONSECUTIVE DAYS)- results page [BrzilianTri] [ In reply to ]
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If he can do 50 IMs in 50 days or 100/100, despite his lack of talent, surely anyone can finish a single IM. Right?
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Re: IronCowboy - Conquer 100 (100 IM distances/100 CONSECUTIVE DAYS)- results page [triordie1994] [ In reply to ]
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triordie1994 wrote:
If he can do 50 IMs in 50 days or 100/100, despite his lack of talent, surely anyone can finish a single IM. Right?

Suuure, and if I can't see the earth rounding that means it is flat, right?
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Re: IronCowboy - Conquer 100 (100 IM distances/100 CONSECUTIVE DAYS)- results page [ThailandUltras] [ In reply to ]
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Times seem slow for the Florida race, but I don't know the course. Was something going on, or is everyone just a bit off form due to covid?

Tri or tri not; this is no du. (--- with apologies to Yoda.) Slow triathlete who survived Huntsville, Lelystadt, Colmar, Fontanil, and
Szekesfehervar/Lake Velence. Arbor hydration specialist in a kid's park in Monterrey 4 times in the 1990s (and in the pits in 1994).
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Re: IronCowboy - Conquer 100 (100 IM distances/100 CONSECUTIVE DAYS)- results page [bluefever] [ In reply to ]
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bluefever wrote:
devashish_paul wrote:


To put it in context:

  1. No foreign specatators allowed at Olympic games, no thread on ST
  2. Ageless Cameron Brown racing again at IM NZ next week (if it is on), no thread on ST
  3. NCAA Swimming championships happen, not a whince on ST (yes, an actual indoor amateur sport event happened)
  4. Froome starts his come back at UAE tour, not a single thread on ST
  5. Wout Van Aert and Mathew Van Der Poel get beaten at Milano San Remo yesterday, no threads
  6. Over 16K views and 650+ posts on this thread.

Who is the winner on ST? .


This is a great post, and really points out the hypocrisy of taking more notice of something most seem to dislike than actual real sporting events. Triathletes only have themselves to blame.

Here is what is crazy. As much as I dislike the misreprentation, what I am finding more interesting about IC over say Milano San Remo (citing one of my examples) is that I know MSR is possible. I can do Milano San Remo any day rolling out of bed, I will just do it slower than pro cyclists.

IC's 100 days of exercising for 16-17 hrs, I actually don't know if this is possible even with IV's because he has so little time to recover and regenerate for the next day. Sure he is using IV's to top up on carbs, but his body still has to synthesize proteins and get going again, so really he is synthesizing proteins WHILE exercising to get ready for the next day.

He is so slow that he's eating substantially into his window to recharge. Nick will understand this as a former winner of Ultraman Canada. The faster you are the better your opportunity is to perform the next day and the next and the next and the next. IC has taken out all margin for error to keep repeating this human circus trick for 100 days. Or he knows the exact daily budget for exercise and daily budget for recovery where he is getting fitter and not digging a hole that he can't climb out of.
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Re: IronCowboy - Conquer 100 (100 IM distances/100 CONSECUTIVE DAYS)- results page [kny] [ In reply to ]
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kny wrote:
guillermoD wrote:
It's like me saying I'm going to run a sub 4-minute mile but since I can't I will just run a bunch of 100s and add those times up and then claim that I ran a sub 4 minute mile.


Good luck with that. 15 second 100s are a lot tougher than you'd think.

.....but a helluva lot easier than a 4 minute mile. What's your point?

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Re: IronCowboy - Conquer 100 (100 IM distances/100 CONSECUTIVE DAYS)- results page [madMike100] [ In reply to ]
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Times seem slow for the Florida race, but I don't know the course. Was something going on, or is everyone just a bit off form due to covid?
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Yeah the times are very slow and that comes from a couple of reasons.The Covid year has screwed everyone over and I reckon pretty much everyone was just there to meet up,hang out with their "ultra-family,and support Steve Kirbys races (no speedy Euro's coming to the USA either). The Florida race has been slow for the last couple of years and I think that may be partly because the Ultra scene in the USA (in the multi-iron crowd) has had a little domestic dispute and has now divided itself between Steve Kirbys USA Ultra-Tri races and Wayne Kurtz "Racetwitch" events.Such a strange situation to have two groups forming when the popularity of these events is already so low. The Double Ultra World Champs is supposed to be held this year at the USA Ultra-Tri Double Anvil in Oregon in June but sadly I reckon that race will be cancelled,more due to the lack of participants that a Covid ban.
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Re: IronCowboy - Conquer 100 (100 IM distances/100 CONSECUTIVE DAYS)- results page [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Here is what is crazy. As much as I dislike the misreprentation, what I am finding more interesting about IC over say Milano San Remo (citing one of my examples) is that I know MSR is possible. I can do Milano San Remo any day rolling out of bed, I will just do it slower than pro cyclists.

IC's 100 days of exercising for 16-17 hrs, I actually don't know if this is possible even with IV's because he has so little time to recover and regenerate for the next day. Sure he is using IV's to top up on carbs, but his body still has to synthesize proteins and get going again, so really he is synthesizing proteins WHILE exercising to get ready for the next day.

He is so slow that he's eating substantially into his window to recharge. Nick will understand this as a former winner of Ultraman Canada. The faster you are the better your opportunity is to perform the next day and the next and the next and the next. IC has taken out all margin for error to keep repeating this human circus trick for 100 days. Or he knows the exact daily budget for exercise and daily budget for recovery where he is getting fitter and not digging a hole that he can't climb out of.
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Yep Dev you are right.At some stage the lack of sleep will add up and he will most likely get sick.He is a tough bastard though so he will most likely push through.

When I followed his training I realized that he wasn't actually training to go fast in an Ironman or Deca,he was actually training to withstand the first 30 or 40 days of physical stress fully expecting to get stronger along the way as his body adapts.His health issues now are not very bad and I would suggest the ankle/shin pain and swelling is from an overuse issue because he didn't put the miles in on the bike he needed to.I still maintain that he will start getting faster and he could actually take an hour off today if he wanted to but as it is now he doesn't need to.He has worked out a strategy and pace that he thinks will work and to be honest I think the walking thing is a surprise bonus for him. He now knows that he doesn't have to run to have his challenge deemed a success so we won't see much running for a while.

Eventually,when the weather starts getting better and warmer, "the meds" will start working and he will start riding faster,will start run/walking and we will see some sub 15hr days appearing.At this point his 5-6 hrs a night sleep is fine because he doesn't have to do anything but eat and sleep but at some stage,if this timeline continues, the sleep deprivation on top of 16hrs of stress per day will bite him in the ass.
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Re: IronCowboy - Conquer 100 (100 IM distances/100 CONSECUTIVE DAYS)- results page [Twotter] [ In reply to ]
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Ok, I'll bite - what exactly is libelous in what I said? The WADA code says IV use is considering doping. IC freely advertises and admits to IV use. If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, it's probably a duck. In this case, it is 100% certain that it is a duck

WADA code doesn't refer to IV use as doping. WADA identifies banned substances (ie. doping), and banned methods. IV use is a banned method.

Using an IV is more akin to drafting on the bike than taking EPO or steroids.
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Re: IronCowboy - Conquer 100 (100 IM distances/100 CONSECUTIVE DAYS)- results page [ThailandUltras] [ In reply to ]
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In his most recent facebook post he says his feet are mostly recovered and that his leg swelling is right down.
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Re: IronCowboy - Conquer 100 (100 IM distances/100 CONSECUTIVE DAYS)- results page [TIT] [ In reply to ]
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In his most recent facebook post he says his feet are mostly recovered and that his leg swelling is right down.
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If he was going to break down he would have done it by now. We are ending three weeks worth now and he will just start to get stronger from here on.The only thing that will stop him will be injuries from a crash or illness brought on by a sleep deprived, weakened immune system.I suspect that he is in a pretty happy place right now and the longer he goes the the better the weather,with that comes more people riding and running with him every day.That alone will be almost enough to keep him going.

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Re: IronCowboy - Conquer 100 (100 IM distances/100 CONSECUTIVE DAYS)- results page [davearm] [ In reply to ]
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davearm wrote:
Twotter wrote:

Ok, I'll bite - what exactly is libelous in what I said? The WADA code says IV use is considering doping. IC freely advertises and admits to IV use. If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, it's probably a duck. In this case, it is 100% certain that it is a duck


WADA code doesn't refer to IV use as doping. WADA identifies banned substances (ie. doping), and banned methods. IV use is a banned method.

Using an IV is more akin to drafting on the bike than taking EPO or steroids.

did Lochte get a time penalty, or a 14 en month ban ?
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Re: IronCowboy - Conquer 100 (100 IM distances/100 CONSECUTIVE DAYS)- results page [davearm] [ In reply to ]
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davearm wrote:
Twotter wrote:
Ok, I'll bite - what exactly is libelous in what I said? The WADA code says IV use is considering doping. IC freely advertises and admits to IV use. If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, it's probably a duck. In this case, it is 100% certain that it is a duck

WADA code doesn't refer to IV use as doping. WADA identifies banned substances (ie. doping), and banned methods. IV use is a banned method.

Using an IV is more akin to drafting on the bike than taking EPO or steroids.

https://www.wada-ama.org/..._v5.0_jan2018_en.pdf
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Re: IronCowboy - Conquer 100 (100 IM distances/100 CONSECUTIVE DAYS)- results page [WhittleFit] [ In reply to ]
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Last 7 days:

Day 15:
Swim time: 1:25:43
Bike time: 6:48:16
Run time: 8:23:42

Total time: 17:58:42

Day 16:
Swim time: 1:25:46
Bike time: 7:03:25
Run time: 7:11:21

Total time: 16:57:02


Day 17:
Swim time: 1:25:44
Bike time: 6:50:03
Run time: 7:33:44

Total time: 16:53:53

Day 18:
Swim time: 1:25:48
Bike time: 7:02:05
Run time: 7:06:17

Total time: 17:37:27

Day 19:
Swim time: 1:25:41
Bike time: 6:39:02
Run time: 7:09:27

Total time: 16:21:30

Day 20:
Swim time: 1:26:03
Bike time: 6:57:03
Run time: 7:03:43

Total time: 16:42:14

Day 21:
Swim time: 1:25:46
Bike time: 6:49:40
Run time: 7:07:38

Total time: 16:40:43
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ThailandUltras wrote:
TIT wrote:
In his most recent facebook post he says his feet are mostly recovered and that his leg swelling is right down.

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If he was going to break down he would have done it by now. We are ending three weeks worth now and he will just start to get stronger from here on.The only thing that will stop him will be injuries from a crash or illness brought on by a sleep deprived, weakened immune system.I suspect that he is in a pretty happy place right now and the longer he goes the the better the weather,with that comes more people riding and running with him every day.That alone will be almost enough to keep him going.

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Yeah, he is over the first three week hump and seems to be consistently managing himself in a repeatable way. Doing these in March in Utah in miserable conditions had to be tough. Weather is on his side now. Those swim times are remarably consistent. I think this gives us a window into being able to quantify what he is able to repeat daily (or not) since swim conditions don't change and he hits that sport the freshest daily carrying in whatever he could recover from the previous day.

How much does he run daily? 7 hrs marathon would suggest 18km at 9kph run pace and 24km at roughly 5 kph hike pace. This is not "nothing". He still is jogging 2 hrs daily every day and hiking a lot.
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devashish_paul wrote:

How much does he run daily? 7 hrs marathon would suggest 18km at 9kph run pace and 24km at roughly 5 kph hike pace. This is not "nothing". He still is jogging 2 hrs daily every day and hiking a lot.

A 7-hour marathon is a 16 minute/mile pace, basically a semi-focused walk. Not very strenuous or taxing other than the time it takes away from recovery.
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FFigawi wrote:
devashish_paul wrote:


How much does he run daily? 7 hrs marathon would suggest 18km at 9kph run pace and 24km at roughly 5 kph hike pace. This is not "nothing". He still is jogging 2 hrs daily every day and hiking a lot.


A 7-hour marathon is a 16 minute/mile pace, basically a semi-focused walk. Not very strenuous or taxing other than the time it takes away from recovery.


I don't know about that. Jogging 18km in 2 hrs and then hiking for 5 hrs would be taxing for me, but I suppose many farmers may do way more exercise than that, in their daily work so it is certainly sustainable standalone with no swim + bike. He is probably taking 50,000-60,000 steps to get through that marathon every day. Minimally you can get in pretty good shape with that much hiking. I went through a stretch early in the pandemic, running 12-16km every day and walking for another 1 hrs, so those days ended up being in the range of 20K steps per day and that was solid (I ended up running 1000km in 12 weeks, biking 1 hrs daily and walking 1 hrs daily). It was "just sustainable" (but I did have a full professional workload on top albeit at a desk). 60K steps per day plus 3.8km swim+180km bike is solid however we cut it.
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