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Re: Official Specialized Shiv Thread [CakeWalk] [ In reply to ]
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Chris,

two quick questions:
1) in see the frames will come with adapters for Shamino cranks, will there also be an adapter for SRAM cranks?
2) any info (availability, etc) on the computer/food storage "bin" thingy (i know, very techincal!) Rasmus Henning used between his bars in Kona?

thanks in advanced!
Steve
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Re: Official Specialized Shiv Thread [CAnderson_SBC] [ In reply to ]
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CAnderson_SBC wrote:
Hey Everyone,
My name is Clayton Anderson and I'm the Community and Social Media Specialist here at Specialized. As many of you have seen, We have introduced a new bike today at Kona, S-Works Shiv. I would like to extend my help with any questions that you may have. I will answer as many as I can and will be more than happy to get the information from our engineers and designers if needed.


Hi Clayton,

I have read that the bladder is refillable while riding. What's the size of the top cap of the hydratation system? I think that the process to refill the bladder is really complicated...ride with one arm in the aerobars and try to put all the liquid inside the small hole without messing all the TT

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Re: Official Specialized Shiv Thread [Epic-o] [ In reply to ]
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1/ Do you know if the arobars of the S-work frameset will be availlable alone ?
For use it by exemple with the Pro frameset...

2/ Do you have pics of the hole of the bladder on the bike for see how refill it ?
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Re: Official Specialized Shiv Thread [CAnderson_SBC] [ In reply to ]
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Hi clayton, any ideas if the geometry would fit someone with long legs and short torso "long and short" according to Dan Empfield. what type of body dimension group is the geometry for? thanks.
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Re: Official Specialized Shiv Thread [Nemotri] [ In reply to ]
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http://velonews.competitor.com/...4441/attachment/4-21

yes bars are available aftermarket it's around post 130-140 by cakewalk above


We should really try to make better use of the industry reps on this board, asking them the same questions over and over again just is going to frustrate the purpose of having them here.
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Re: Official Specialized Shiv Thread [Runless] [ In reply to ]
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sorta part of their job.... its not all roses all the time...
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Re: Official Specialized Shiv Thread [CakeWalk] [ In reply to ]
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Hey guys, first time poster...

1) How easy is it for fluid to drain out of the downtube?

2) Does excessive condensation build up in the tube?

3) Was there any strength testing done for the composite if it gets excessively wet? Or is the seal waterproof?

Thanks,

Aaron
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Re: Official Specialized Shiv Thread [enginaaron] [ In reply to ]
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enginaaron wrote:
3) Was there any strength testing done for the composite if it gets excessively wet? Or is the seal waterproof?

They have been building racing shells and oars (rowing) out of carbon and carbon composites for two decades or so now - getting wet has no effect on carbon/composite strength.


~Kevin
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Re: Official Specialized Shiv Thread [kluecke] [ In reply to ]
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If the laminate is sealed properly, it's not an issue. Water does indeed lower the strength of carbon composite laminate structures.


kluecke wrote:
enginaaron wrote:
3) Was there any strength testing done for the composite if it gets excessively wet? Or is the seal waterproof?


They have been building racing shells and oars (rowing) out of carbon and carbon composites for two decades or so now - getting wet has no effect on carbon/composite strength.
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Re: Official Specialized Shiv Thread [CakeWalk] [ In reply to ]
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CakeWalk wrote:
As for the data on the S5 and Venge. We havn't been back to the wind tunnel with the S5 yet. Mark and the Engineering team have been working their butts off trying to get everything on the new Shiv ready.

How about just Venge vs. S3?

We can take it from there... ;-)



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Re: Official Specialized Shiv Thread [kluecke] [ In reply to ]
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kluecke wrote:
enginaaron wrote:
3) Was there any strength testing done for the composite if it gets excessively wet? Or is the seal waterproof?


They have been building racing shells and oars (rowing) out of carbon and carbon composites for two decades or so now - getting wet has no effect on carbon/composite strength.

Also high performance yacht hulls, masts, etc. Just take a look at any picture of a Volvo Ocean 60 sailing at full tilt, and you'll know that carbon composite handle water just fine.


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Re: Official Specialized Shiv Thread [ In reply to ]
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Can I transfer my "traditional" style (ie non-BB30) FSA SRM over? If it's a yes the cards gonna get a beating, otherwise might a deal-killer!
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Re: Official Specialized Shiv Thread [CAnderson_SBC] [ In reply to ]
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While you guys are all lusting on the new 2012 SHIV and are flooding the market with '11...
I just fetched a incredible deal on a Sworks 2011!
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Re: Official Specialized Shiv Thread [drfranky] [ In reply to ]
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I'm surprised by the size used by Crowie (S) and Rasmus Henning (M) in Kona....is posible???
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Re: Official Specialized Shiv Thread [xavigon] [ In reply to ]
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crowie is 5', 11" and rasmus is 6', 2"...why not?

4 x Kona Qualifier
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Re: Official Specialized Shiv Thread [bwinterroth] [ In reply to ]
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Very small sizes are not?? More logical to see M and L.......I with 1m78cm (5'10'') would have to use S size??
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Re: Official Specialized Shiv Thread [CakeWalk] [ In reply to ]
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Do the Roval 45's fit in the new shiv?
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Re: Official Specialized Shiv Thread [odin99] [ In reply to ]
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Sorry for the hideous, busy here at the office.


There is indeed a difference in the frames. SW Model uses a carbon layup that is around 150g lighter than the Pro/Expert/Comp frame. Stiffness testing in the lab showed very little difference in the overall stiffness between frames. Sine there is so much carbon being used, both frames are extremely laterally rigid, absolutely no need to fret losing power from frame or BB flex.


Another very notable change in spec from the Pro to the Exper/Comp bikes is the carbon aerobar shared by the SW/Pro bike and the Alloy bar shared by the Expert/Comp bikes. Both bars offer an enormous range of adjustment allowing the fitter to raise the armpad and extension 50mm in 5mm increments. Additionally, the armpads can be placed so they are anywhere fore/aft on the extension and can be moved 9cm in width adjustment.


The Carbon bar comes with an integrated aero stem allowing for adjustment of a 60mm or 90mm stem with the adjustment of a small wedge while the allow bar uses a standard stem.


Hope that answers the question, sorry for the delay odin99!


odin99 wrote:
forgive me, this has probably already been asked...


but,
is there any difference in the carbon lay up (like stiffness in the bottom bracket area, etc) between the pro and comp models. I'm weighing the differences between just the pro frame or the rival comp version. i understand the sworks is different (better) carbon - but i want to know the differences in the lesser models.




Chris R.
Specialized Bicycle Components
PR/Media Relations
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Re: Official Specialized Shiv Thread [bwinterroth] [ In reply to ]
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Maybe they had to use a smaller size than optimal given the very high stack of the Shiv. Using a smallish frame would get the stack lower but would require a longer stem than a larger frame.
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Re: Official Specialized Shiv Thread [OCD] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks OCD, You are correct. All frames work with Shimano cranks thanks to these adapters.




OCD wrote:
They answered my question and said that all Shimano options will work. The PRO frame comes with adapters for the crankset, but is DI2 compatible and all Shimano group compatible ( I think that is what he was saying )




Chris R.
Specialized Bicycle Components
PR/Media Relations
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Re: Official Specialized Shiv Thread [CUBuffFan] [ In reply to ]
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Hey CU Buff,

The standard BB will work with SRAM Cranks for BB30 cranks and the Adaptors will work for GXP.

The bar mounted storage, along with a rear mounted tool/hydration are still being shaken out. Rasmus ran the rapid prototype at Kona and we are using his feedback to build the production model we hope to release later this year.




CUBuffFan wrote:
Chris,

two quick questions:
1) in see the frames will come with adapters for Shamino cranks, will there also be an adapter for SRAM cranks?
2) any info (availability, etc) on the computer/food storage "bin" thingy (i know, very techincal!) Rasmus Henning used between his bars in Kona?

thanks in advanced!
Steve



Chris R.
Specialized Bicycle Components
PR/Media Relations
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Re: Official Specialized Shiv Thread [CakeWalk] [ In reply to ]
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Chris,

What is the difference between the stem on the Expert and Comp? The description reads like it is more adjustable but I don't understand 6061 faceplate with cone head bolt and plastic clip, 12-degree, w/4-degree shim.

Is there anyway to upgrade the stem on the Comp to the "Aero Stem" that is on the Pro?

How much of a difference in aerodynamics does the stem make between the three versions?

Thanks,

Jason
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Re: Official Specialized Shiv Thread [CAnderson_SBC] [ In reply to ]
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9 pages of folk believing a bike will make them faster, job well done , training is so 1980's
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Re: Official Specialized Shiv Thread [CakeWalk] [ In reply to ]
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CakeWalk wrote:


Another very notable change in spec from the Pro to the Exper/Comp bikes is the carbon aerobar shared by the SW/Pro bike and the Alloy bar shared by the Expert/Comp bikes. Both bars offer an enormous range of adjustment allowing the fitter to raise the armpad and extension 50mm in 5mm increments. Additionally, the armpads can be placed so they are anywhere fore/aft on the extension and can be moved 9cm in width adjustment.


The Carbon bar comes with an integrated aero stem allowing for adjustment of a 60mm or 90mm stem with the adjustment of a small wedge while the allow bar uses a standard stem.



Chris,

by any chance, do you know if the carbon bar can accommodate Zipp Vuka Shift R2C extensions with the built-in shifter bosses? I'd be interested in running these with my SRAM R2C shifters if possible. Thanks,

Nick
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