1. Potter went to the best environment, with one of the best coaches and surrounded herself by world class triathletes who beat her day in and day out. She learnt from the best.

2. Not sure there is one world class triathlete in Nottingham never mind a squad of them. Who is his coach?

3. The trajectory I quoted above for Milner is exactly what Potter has achieved!

Potter was a good swimmer as a child, not sure what Milner’s background in swimming is but his bike power just isn’t there at the moment.

https://www.britishtriathlon.org/...-talent/support-team
Steve Lloyd

its funny how people tell other people what they have to do without even knowing the very basics.

That is hilarious. Do you understand the regional academies and how it works.

Steve Lloyd is an excellent coach he 1st won coach of the year many years ago before they were even called Regional Academies. He has a brilliant reputation for development of young talent. But Milner is about 26 and too old by about at least 8 years for the regional academies.

The exam question was comparison to Potter and what she had achieved! She achieved that by going to the Leeds Triathlon Centre which has the best and probably most experienced squad at all levels in the Country (not just a home county).

Well apparently British Triathlon didn't find it hilarious, because there is an article on TRI247 in which Hugo states that when he contacted BT, they put him in contact with Steve Lloyd.

Hugo did his first winter training camp in Australia with a lot of the Brits.
By the way Jack Maitland, who was instrumental in the coaching of Beth Potter, is no longer at the Leeds facility

Beth is also not part of the BTF Leeds center and has not been for years.

There are 2 training groups at Leeds but both are part of the Leeds BTF funded training centre. She has the same coach as Jonny.

Is this the same British Triathlon that said they weren’t interested in Lucy Charles or had no faith in Beth Potter. Or have no funding for Max Stapley.

I know nothing about Hugo and I hope he achieves his potential but GB Tri doesn’t always get its funding right! Some athletes seem to never get the discretionary approval.

It isn’t just GB Tri either. AUS Tri kicked Willian off funding recently and he qualified for Paris this past weekend.

Two factors at play here:

On the relay side: Matt unfortunately just can't swim at the level required. You can't lose the kind of time he loses in the swim and expect success in the MR...the race is too short to expect to leverage superior bike/run skills especially if you cannot make the front pack. And Rider has outperformed McElroy across the board at the PanAm MR and Hamburg MR - he's clearly the better swimmer regardless of distance and the better triathlete at the super sprint distance. When deciding who to lead out the relay the only question to ask is "who can make the front bike pack?"

On the individual side: The US doesn't have a second male athlete who is a true podium threat. Which means that run ability is less of a factor for the second selection. At this point you essentially want the best swim/bike (Aquabike) athlete possible -- someone who can outswim Pearson, domestique for him on the bike to save his legs and see if he can have the run of their life for a top 10. Rider and Darr Smith have those credentials. McElroy has a strong bike/run, but as we've seen with Gwen it just doesn't matter if your swim puts you in the chase pack.

That’s not quite correct. Alistair and Jonny set up a training group that is separate from the BTF centre. There is some crossover of coaches and funding but their group is managed distinctly from the BTF one. Jonny and Beth have the same swim coach - Coz Tantrum - but different triathlon coaches.

First: Potter's pathway was long and hard and she has excelled.
Second: That doesn't mean that 'go north to Leeds, young man' is the only pathway, especially as it's in decline (from a very high point, discuss) and the ascendent is Loughborough/Nottingham (no idea what you mean by "home county" btw).
Third: Potter was an excellent swimmer all through school so after her Rio 10000m she had a sound foundation for transitioning into tri. Milner stopped proper swimming before he was 10 so he's had further to go, but really is getting there in the water but then at the highest (WTCS) level with the front pack really pushing, he's found out. Bear in mind Yokohama was about the 6th standard distance race of his life!
Immediate future: Will be interesting to see if he briefly pivots to the 10000m/5000m on the track this summer to see if he can get sub 13:20/27:20, which he sounds confident about (World Tri podcast after Miyazaki, back in November. The UK 10000m trials are next weekend! The 5000s are in late June.
As for LCB and Stapley neither have the potential to run fast enough for short course success (GBR top flight). You might reasonably consider BriTri did Charles a favour by saying thanks but no thanks: get back to long course. After the Leeds cameo she immediately dominated the 70.3 worlds (St George) and the rest is history.
As for Stapley, he could enhance his chance with a performance in Cagliari but that loss of time on the run will be an unattractive proposition on Leg 1 in August, however you cut it. As soon as selections are made (in 17 days), he needs to go long straight away and stop faffing around. He has his Taupo start. Use his form to show those middle distance European chaps what's what.

So you do you reckon is a better pick than Stapley in 2024 for the MTR? I'm interested in your response.

Once again (I bought this up months ago but was laughed at), by the rule book, Max cannot compete in Paris as he has competed for Aus in this cycle.

Brownlee is really the only option for leg 1. Unless Barclay shows something very soon, but I think he has been injured. Jonny will swim and bike with everyone and then has to produce a run where he only loses 10 seconds to the front. Ideally he runs with/ahead of the US so GTB (if fit) and Taylor Spivey can work together on the second leg. My prediction is GB will handover in the lead after leg 2 - assuming it is GTB and Lombardi on that leg.

Then it is one hell of a race between Yee/Potter and {Bergere, Conix}/Beaugrand.

but details like this would not concern some posters in this thread...
its all about gut feelings for some .

Brownlee provided he can run 2km. The deficit he hands over to ?GTB will be less than Stapley. Otherwise the selectors have a dilemma: Stapley and accept the gap for GTB to make up in her swim/bike or another Dijkstra? who will have to chance it with the bike chase pack on Leg 1? and may never see the front of the race consigning GTB and Yee to ride alone (or doing the lion's share of the work).
For the avoidance of doubt, I am not suggesting Milner should even be on the list of possible GBR MTR Leg 1s. That'd be barking, for 2024. In the future: 'Just you wait, 'Enry 'Iggins, just you wait!'.

Does anyone know if the French Comitee has a plan B in case the water quality does not fulfill the standards? I cannot believe they are just considering a duathlon...there is plenty of ocean not too far from Paris. The sailing competition in fact is always placed somewhere not too far from the host city.

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Spaniard. Sorry for my english for the sensitive ones :P

btw i think i have worked it out .....

To be eligible to participate in the Paris 2024 Olympic Games, all athletes must represent the same National Federation during the whole qualification period and meet one of the following requirements by 27thMay 20


World Triathlon Competition Rules28 January 2022 17/196 q.) Athletes who are competing under the World Triathlon flag will be entered in the competition by the National Federation the athlete is moving to. They will compete with the same rights as any other athlete in terms of awards, prizes and points


so he did race for the same federation in this cycle.

He raced for AUS on 28th May 2022 in Arzechena.

One day into the qualification period.

i think the B plan is to delay a day or 2 and hope the water improves. the C plan is a duathlon. the tokyo water was disgusting but they figured out a way to clear it for swimming.

you need to be a no flag athelte for 12 month , before you can change country.
so read the 2 paragraph. when you are no flag you are entered for races by the fed you move to
so he was entered for that race by the brit federation.
meaning he did not race for another federation in this cycle.

If you say so. But he raced in an AUS suit and has AUS next to his name in the results…

I would assume he would have no flag next to his name if he was racing under no flag…?

The 'Paris Olympics' sailing events are really close to Paris (NOT). See also Moscow. And how was the sailing in Barcelona harbour in 1992? Not nice.
It's Dev's role to derail threads with 'whataboutery Seinery': please don't you start.
@Sheridan shared this clickbait-inspired thread: https://forum.slowtwitch.com/...danTris%5D_P8110952/
Plan A: invest millions constructing basins to catch/hold water if there's a storm and make sure it's treated before reentering the flow; ensure all boats and other places which previously just discharged into the river don't (this is essentially complete). Plan/expect there not to be storms and heavy rain in late July / early August which is the root cause of deterioration of water quality. The 'cathedral' was opened last week: https://smartwatermagazine.com/...in-clean-seine-river
Plan B: If there are and mitigations above don't sort it, delay races by several days to allow the water with higher levels than sensible for water sports to flow through and to la manche.
Plan C: Duathlon for one or more of the races (mega fail and political damage) - you need to believe it.
Since this hazard is going to have a short notice, resiting any of the triathlon competitions is not contemplated, nor will there be plans for such in place.
Triathlon (with 6 excellent French athletes and certain medals) almost primus inter pares offers the host city the opportunity to advertise what an amazing venue/city they are: the bridges, avenues and boulevards and the historic and aesthetic architecture, and backdrops.
https://www.france24.com/...r-seine-for-olympics

i cant answer this as i did not see the suit, iam sure you are right with australia in the flag as i rember this but i think they mess this up all the time and in historical results they never us the itu flag . you can check the spanish female that races for turkey now and is in the new flag spot for europe atm. i would assume her results are only a spanish or turkish flag . or you look if stapley has no flag results.

but lets do some reverse engineering as this is more conclusive i would say, if he raced under the british flag before april 2023 he would have definitely entered by the brit federation for this race as you have to be a no flag athletes for 12 month and while you are a no flag athelte you are entered by your new federation you are moving too . and you are entered by feds about 35 days before the race date
i cant be arersed to look this up when he started to race for uk but iam pretty sure it was the next race he did after may 27th 2022
the key fact here its not what passport he had or what tri suit he wore under which flag he raced . but what federation entered him for the race and the race entry for ajezera would have been mid to late late april 2022 .

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ffs i did check flags for stapely the race after he ajezera he has a british flag and then he does have itu flags till april 2023 and then a british flag on 4th of june
so answer is, inconclusive .

but again the key point is which fed entered him into ajezera.for may 28th 2022

I still think that brownlee is the favourite, if he can show form. Then there is the forgotten Sam Dickinson. They are both entered I a a European super print Tri after Calgiari, if GB does not have enough info prior. Didn't see Max's name on that start list though. Or Hugo.

Pretty sure Max Stapley has said himself he was aiming to qualify for GB for the Olympics. So either he has got it very wrong or he knows his qualification status better than Slowtwitchers on this thread

Checked the ITU site. Stapley raced for AUS in Arzachena on May 2022, weirdly under GBR in Pontevedra on July 2022, and then under the ITU flag in Bergen on August 2022 until the London Arena Games on April 2023. He's been with GBR since the Madrid WC on June 2023.