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The Sussman trial has started, and there have been a few revelations. We'll see how it goes.

https://www.yahoo.com/...-says-200540563.html

https://www.nationalreview.com/...n-the-witness-stand/
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Re: Durham Investigation [TMI] [ In reply to ]
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TMI wrote:
The Sussman trial has started, and there have been a few revelations. We'll see how it goes.

https://www.yahoo.com/...-says-200540563.html

https://www.nationalreview.com/...n-the-witness-stand/

The J6 hearings have begun!

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Re: Durham Investigation [TMI] [ In reply to ]
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Sussmann not guilty

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/justice/sussmann-found-not-guilty-in-blow-to-john-durhams-investigation

How embarrassing for the folks who deliberately misrepresented the case, filings, and have pinned their hopes on Sussmann going to prison.
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Nutella wrote:
Sussmann not guilty

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...urhams-investigation

How embarrassing for the folks who deliberately misrepresented the case, filings, and have pinned their hopes on Sussmann going to prison.

The Durham investigation was a successful distraction from the Mueller probe which was a successful distraction from "Russian interference" which was a successful distraction from....

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Nutella wrote:
Sussmann not guilty

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...urhams-investigation

How embarrassing for the folks who deliberately misrepresented the case, filings, and have pinned their hopes on Sussmann going to prison.

It was such a bad case to charge someone. I mean, basically all of Durhams witnesses said something very different under oath previously, but then all of them just happened to change their stories that now make it bad for Sussman. The case really had much more evidence of the witnesses lying under oath than Sussman.

This was all very predictable and just shows how much this is a witch hunt Durham is putting on.
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Durham Inquiry Appears to Wind Down as Grand Jury Expires
The special counsel appointed by the Trump administration to examine the Russia investigation seems to be wrapping up its work with no further charges in store.

https://www.nytimes.com/...ry-trump-russia.html

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When John H. Durham was assigned by the Justice Department in 2019 to examine the origins of the investigation into the 2016 Trump campaign’s ties to Russia, President Donald J. Trump and his supporters expressed a belief that the inquiry would prove that a “deep state” conspiracy including top Obama-era officials had worked to sabotage him.

Now Mr. Durham appears to be winding down his three-year inquiry without anything close to the results Mr. Trump was seeking.


Another right wing fever dream dies.
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Durham Inquiry Appears to Wind Down as Grand Jury Expires
The special counsel appointed by the Trump administration to examine the Russia investigation seems to be wrapping up its work with no further charges in store.

https://www.nytimes.com/...ry-trump-russia.html

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When John H. Durham was assigned by the Justice Department in 2019 to examine the origins of the investigation into the 2016 Trump campaign’s ties to Russia, President Donald J. Trump and his supporters expressed a belief that the inquiry would prove that a “deep state” conspiracy including top Obama-era officials had worked to sabotage him.

Now Mr. Durham appears to be winding down his three-year inquiry without anything close to the results Mr. Trump was seeking.


Another right wing fever dream dies.

He is going to be making so much money on the right wing grift circuit spewing lies.
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Re: Durham Investigation [TMI] [ In reply to ]
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Looks like the investigation will go out with a whimper. It's really the FBI that's going to end up with a black eye when all is said and done.

https://www.nationalreview.com/...rove-dossier-claims/
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Re: Durham Investigation [TMI] [ In reply to ]
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Um, yeah, sure. The FBI…
The Durham Investigation has been a monumental damp squib.


“But the situation shifted when the defense got to cross-examine Auten. Danchenko’s lawyers highlighted Auten’s previous testimony, given years ago to the Justice Department inspector general and to the Senate Judiciary Committee, which contradicted some of Durham’s claims.

Auten previously said Danchenko was “truthful” and “assisted” the Russia probe. He also said securing Danchenko as an FBI source was “one of the best things that came out of” the Russia probe. This undercuts the core of Durham’s indictment, which alleged that Danchenko serially lied to the FBI and impeded the investigators who were scrambling to verify the Steele dossier.

Danchenko’s defense attorney, Danny Onorato, asked Auten in court on Wednesday if that was still his belief today, and Auten answered in the affirmative, adding, “I stand by my testimony.”

The defense also elicited testimony indicating that Durham cherry-picked material from an FBI memo that Auten wrote, when there was exculpatory information on the very next page.

“And Mr. Durham didn’t take any steps to correct your wrong answer, did he?” Onorato asked.”

https://www.cnn.com/...e-witness/index.html
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Re: Durham Investigation [TMI] [ In reply to ]
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Judge drops 1 of 5 charges against Trump-Russia dossier source, in blow to special counsel Durham

https://www.cnn.com/...2-10-14T19%3A45%3A05

What a waste of time and money
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Re: Durham Investigation [TMI] [ In reply to ]
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TMI wrote:
Looks like the investigation will go out with a whimper. It's really the FBI that's going to end up with a black eye when all is said and done.

https://www.nationalreview.com/...rove-dossier-claims/

Really? How many good intel networks have been burned by this fiasco? How many cases of window cancer (defenestration)?

Durham, Lindsey Graham, the former President… those are the black eyes.

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Um, yeah, sure. The FBI…
The Durham Investigation has been a monumental damp squib.


“But the situation shifted when the defense got to cross-examine Auten. Danchenko’s lawyers highlighted Auten’s previous testimony, given years ago to the Justice Department inspector general and to the Senate Judiciary Committee, which contradicted some of Durham’s claims.

Auten previously said Danchenko was “truthful” and “assisted” the Russia probe. He also said securing Danchenko as an FBI source was “one of the best things that came out of” the Russia probe. This undercuts the core of Durham’s indictment, which alleged that Danchenko serially lied to the FBI and impeded the investigators who were scrambling to verify the Steele dossier.

Danchenko’s defense attorney, Danny Onorato, asked Auten in court on Wednesday if that was still his belief today, and Auten answered in the affirmative, adding, “I stand by my testimony.”

The defense also elicited testimony indicating that Durham cherry-picked material from an FBI memo that Auten wrote, when there was exculpatory information on the very next page.

“And Mr. Durham didn’t take any steps to correct your wrong answer, did he?” Onorato asked.”

https://www.cnn.com/...e-witness/index.html

Durham, Russia Gate, Russia Gate Gate, and the Meuller obstruction were all very effective and successful.

Russian source intel networks burned, truth obfuscated, a President elected under shady pretenses, narrative bent into a litmus test for true believers.

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Re: Durham Investigation [TMI] [ In reply to ]
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Good thread about what’s really going on with the Durham investigation.

TLDR: all of the 2016 campaigns were crazy weird, the institutional narrative got broken and overcome by the Steele Dossier narrative, by design of hostile foreign power or powers, and the whole fiasco highlights a lot of problems within DOJ and FBI and CIA:

https://twitter.com/...V8KQ1z0YoxSs1kIkmWMw

My own personal commentary is that former President Obama has a lot of explaining to do, no more in charge than W was IMO. If that’s true, if Obama and Bush are analogs, then that makes Biden the first real President since Eisenhower, and that the slow motion coup took 56 years to come to fruition.

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Re: Durham Investigation [Nutella] [ In reply to ]
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Here is a comparison of the timeline of the Mueller investigation versus the Durham shit show:



Of course the whole thing was bullshit from the start. First, to start an investigation, they needed some level of evidence that a crime had been committed. But they had no evidence, they broke the rules to try and find a crime in the first place. Second, a special council is only allowed to address a conflict of interest with the AG or some other higher up. But there wasn't a conflict of interest here. The reason that a special council was to tie the Biden administrations hands, which is just total abuse of power on Barr's part.


Would have loved for there to have been an investigation into the Clinton investigations. You know the one that was actually started by a foreign person's opposition research (the thing they claimed, but didn't happen to trump). It is just maddening that the GOP complains about something being bad, but then lie and said it happened to trump, when it happened to Clinton.

Barr was a piece of shit that did so much damage and should be in prison.
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The Durham investigation seemed like it was going to go out with a whimper after securing only a single guilty conviction. Then came the Sussman indictment, and now the arrest of Danchenko.

https://www.cbsnews.com/...rested-durham-probe/


It's not yet clear if the connection between Danchenko and a long-time Clinton associate is significant.
https://www.politico.com/...urce-arrested-519498

So much losing.

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A jury on Tuesday found Igor Danchenko — a private researcher who was a primary source for a 2016 dossier of allegations about former president Donald Trump’s ties to Russia — not guilty of lying to the FBI about where he got his information.

The verdict in federal court in Alexandria, Va., is another blow for special counsel John Durham, who has now lost both cases that have gone to trial as part of his nearly 3½-year investigation. Durham, who was asked by Attorney General William P. Barr in 2019 to review the FBI’s investigation of the Trump campaign in 2016, is sure to face renewed pressure to wrap up his work following the verdict.

Trump predicted Durham would uncover “the crime of the century” inside the U.S. law enforcement and intelligence agencies that investigated his campaign’s links to Russia. But so far, no one charged by the special counsel has gone to prison, and only one government employee has pleaded guilty to a criminal offense. In both trials this year, Durham argued that people deceived FBI agents, not that investigators corruptly targeted Trump.

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I don't think people understand just how weak Durham's case was here.

Durham was saying Danchenko lied when he told the FBI in 4 meetings (hence 4 counts) when he said received an anonymous call from someone that he believed to be Sergei Millian, but he was not 100% it was Sergei Millian, only that the person sounded like Sergei Millian.

So even if Durham could have proved that Sergei Millian never called Danchenko, and Durham only partly tried to prove that and mostly tried to deceive the jury by pretending he did, that still doesn't prove Danchenko lied. Durham somehow needed to prove that there was no call at all, which there was no evidence Danchenko made it all up. Real hard to prove a negative here. Durham couldn't even get Sergei Millian to testify it never happened. The FBI agents that interviewed Danchenko on the stand said they believed Danchenko was telling the truth. The agents also said he helped on a large number of other cases and provided information that was confirmed, resulting in him being one of their best Russian sources.

There is no way Durham thought this case was actually winnable, the only reason he did was to spread nonsense conspiracy theories.

The craziest part is if Durham actually got a conviction. Danchenko would have spent less than 1 year in federal prison, then would be deported to Russia. So you would be deporting someone that had worked on a large number of counter intelligence cases for FBI against Russia, to Russia! What do you think is going to happen to Danchenko in Russia exactly? That sounds like a really bad idea to me if you care about national security.

This is such an abuse of power, Durham should personally pay Danchenko's legal fees.
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Re: Durham Investigation [TMI] [ In reply to ]
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You got such a boner over this, and now?

How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?
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I don't think people understand just how weak Durham's case was here.

Durham was saying Danchenko lied when he told the FBI in 4 meetings (hence 4 counts) when he said received an anonymous call from someone that he believed to be Sergei Millian, but he was not 100% it was Sergei Millian, only that the person sounded like Sergei Millian.

So even if Durham could have proved that Sergei Millian never called Danchenko, and Durham only partly tried to prove that and mostly tried to deceive the jury by pretending he did, that still doesn't prove Danchenko lied. Durham somehow needed to prove that there was no call at all, which there was no evidence Danchenko made it all up. Real hard to prove a negative here. Durham couldn't even get Sergei Millian to testify it never happened. The FBI agents that interviewed Danchenko on the stand said they believed Danchenko was telling the truth. The agents also said he helped on a large number of other cases and provided information that was confirmed, resulting in him being one of their best Russian sources.

There is no way Durham thought this case was actually winnable, the only reason he did was to spread nonsense conspiracy theories.

The craziest part is if Durham actually got a conviction. Danchenko would have spent less than 1 year in federal prison, then would be deported to Russia. So you would be deporting someone that had worked on a large number of counter intelligence cases for FBI against Russia, to Russia! What do you think is going to happen to Danchenko in Russia exactly? That sounds like a really bad idea to me if you care about national security.

This is such an abuse of power, Durham should personally pay Danchenko's legal fees.

Two federal “ham sandwich” acquittals in one calendar year… he’s the GOAT.

I am pouring one out for all the homies in Dachenko’s network that got burned.

If you’re interested, the conclusion to Russia Gate, Meuller, and Durham is ongoing in the Barrack trial… other end of the elephant.

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You can just look at Durham and know he is weak on this one.

Update: https://www.huffpost.com/...120ee4b03e8038d905e4

Effing trumpists
Last edited by: tyrod1: Oct 18, 22 18:51
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chaparral wrote:
I don't think people understand just how weak Durham's case was here.

Agreed. I wonder if Barr and Durham were both true believers, or if Durham got handed a rotten egg by Barr?

tyrod1 wrote:
You can just look at Durham and know he is weak on this one.

Update: https://www.huffpost.com/...120ee4b03e8038d905e4

It's definitely harder to secure a conviction than to extract cash from a Clinton for a shoddy dossier.
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BLeP wrote:
You got such a boner over this, and now?

I started the thread, but I don't think I made even a single prediction. Maybe this post will help.
https://forum.slowtwitch.com/...ost=7771678#p7771678
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Re: Durham Investigation [TMI] [ In reply to ]
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chaparral wrote:
I don't think people understand just how weak Durham's case was here.


Agreed. I wonder if Barr and Durham were both true believers, or if Durham got handed a rotten egg by Barr?

Pretty clear from Durham's closing argument he is a true believer in right wing fever dreams.
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Re: Durham Investigation [chaparral] [ In reply to ]
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Like most people Trump goes after, he wanted to execute them.

https://twitter.com/.../1492646490346598404
Last edited by: schroeder: Oct 19, 22 6:33
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TMI wrote:
BLeP wrote:
You got such a boner over this, and now?

I started the thread, but I don't think I made even a single prediction. Maybe this post will help.
https://forum.slowtwitch.com/...ost=7771678#p7771678

I can take a joke, but I thought you could, too. No hard feelings? (pun intended)
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